Eurogamer 360 vs PS3 Round 9

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Turok You may have noticed that I didn’t cover round 8 of Eurogamer’s continous series pitting 360/PS3 ports against each other. There is no conspiracy here the games were just absolutely terrible and the feature was dull. By their own admission.

Anyway so back to one of the most important decisions when buying a console, which console has the better games and which one plays the ports better?

There has been a lot of talk recently about how the PS3’s ports are catching up fast and even overtaking the 360 is certain respects. Well according to Eurogamer that is utter garbage. The results are in and the 360 is still the better machine to play cross platform titles on..

So lets get to what they reviewed this time

Devil May Cry 4 – Xbox 360
The anti-aliasing is better on the 360 and the PS3 requires a 5Gb install which doesn’t help in load times or framerate enough to warrant it. A 3 second faster load time is useless.

The Club – Xbox 360 
Graphical superior on the 360.

PES 2008 – Tie
However the game has been roundly criticised and if you want to play a good football game this year rather go for FIFA 2008

FIFA Street 3 – Xbox 360
Less jaggies and better anti-aliasing on the 360

Juiced 2 – Xbox 360 
Rather don’t get this game at all but in the comparison the PS3 version received a “totally unremarkable”. Screen tear and just not as pretty on the PS3

Turok – Xbox 360
The PS3 version is graphically inferior. The studio’s did lead on the 360 version so it had an unfair advantage though.

So that’s it… 5-0 for the Xbox 360 and before complaining to loudly I would recommend reading through the entire feature on Eurogamers site. They are very fair and I struggle to really argue against anything that has been said.

Source: Eurogamer

[Thanks to Doobiwan for the tip]

Last Updated: March 7, 2008

Gavin Mannion

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  • NoMaD

    I looked at some comparisons myself, when comparisons regarding Assassins Creed first came out, PS3 was ragged for tearing and bad anti-aliasing. i experienced no bad frame-rates, no tearing and very good graphics on the PS3, and it looked exactly the same as the XBox 360. Not one looked better than the other.

    But LucasArts have said that porting from 360 to PS3 isn’t the best thing. Altough they did make PS3 their lead platform now. So hopefully that will improve all these “minor” glitches.

    “Minor” because these comparisons don’t change the awesome experience that both consoles offer, and it should not sway your vote for either a Xbox or PS3.

    These comparisons are mainly for the TRUE fanboy, to try make themselves feel better.

  • doobiwan

    Getting a bit defensive there NoMaD? 😉

    The article is a bit softer than Gav with nice words like “barely perceivable”. 😉 So I do agree that an owner of either console shouldn’t be worried about the major titles, the complaints are minor and few affect game play, however I disagree with your conclusion.

    It’d be fine if it was an isolated incident like the Orange box, but the fact that for 9 comparisons (50+ games) the PS3 has not been able to best the 360 in more than 1 or 2 games has a big impact on someone’s purchasing decision.

    My interpretation is simply, if you want an integrated HD home entertainment device with totally acceptable, but not the best games, then a PS3 may be what you want, but if your intention is to buy a games console, you should focus on the 360. (But that’s just me 😉 )

  • abe

    So when gamepro do this its utter sacrelidge and can never be true, Eurogamer do it and its so definately true, I wonder if thats cos this time round the cry babies won.
    Im sorry but even just look at the pic attached to the article, the PS3 one clearly looks better in my opinion.
    The first thing I saw with this article was the pic and I was shocked when I read the article as the pic clearly tels a dif story!

  • DarthPenguin

    To quote abe: “the PS3 one clearly looks better in my opinion.”

    Fanboy talk there… I’ve studied it closely… not one clearly stands out from the other in any respect. And I’ve seen Assassins Creed on both consoles, it defnitely looks better on the 360… by quite a clear margin. Didn’t notice bad framerates or tearing on either though.

    I agree with doobiwan, and I tell people this often, the PS3 is leagues ahead as an entertainment system, but the 360 still has the advantage as a gaming system.

  • Fox1

    The 360 does have a superior GPU whichever way we you look at it. Drop the the X1950XT in your current PC and you will be running Crysis in full DX10 glory. Yes its DX10 compliant.

    @Abe- This article is more a graphical comparison than to Gamepro doing a an all round comparison.

  • Fox1

    I don’t see the PS3 as the better entertainment system because the Hi-Def format war was won unfairly. MS had a good thing with HD. Just take a look at how WMV HD is the compression standard on the net for HD videos.

    But now even if I want an Hi-Def movie player then it will be a PS3 or some cheapy BD Player thats if there will ever be cheap BD players.

  • kay

    Agree with doobiwan’s conclusion above – PS3 is a nice HT appliance/media centre with some decent games available for it. The only game I’ve played on both consoles is COD4, and it played smoother and was nicer looking on the Xbox 360. Comparing the fluid motion and brilliant graphics of other 360 titles such as Bioshock and Halo 3, Resistance on the PS3 was nowhere near. Controls felt jerky and inaccurate, the graphics weren’t quite as convincing.

    Ultimately I want to own both consoles, but as a games machine the Xbox 360 won out FOR ME. It’s not without its faults – too noisy, no WiFi, proprietary accessories. That is one reason why I am glad Blu-Ray won even though they ended up including Microsoft’s VC1 codec from HD-DVD in the BD spec as well. Microsoft already own a fat chunk of the software stack, they don’t need more power to leverage their monopoly 😉 To that end, I think it’s a very good thing that WMV HD hasn’t caught on.

    kay’s last blog post..Happy Valentines Day to All!

  • JimBob

    “The only game I’ve played on both consoles is COD4, and it played smoother and was nicer looking on the Xbox 360. ”

    This is complete nonsense, they both look equally good and you’d be hard-pressed to tell the difference even side by side. So much of this stuff seems subjective when, though, when people simply can’t agree, and when one needs to set your PS3 up properly with a HDMI cable to get the best results.

    I would say comparing a launch PS3 game like RFOM to 360 games that came two years into the cycle probably isn’t fair, especially when games like Uncharted, R&C and Heavenly Sword easily match the graphics the 360 was producing a year into its life. RFOM vs PDZ would be a fairer comparison.

    Personally, I think Halo 3’s graphics are extremely average (even below par on some maps and levels) and I can’t see why people cite it as any sort of benchmark.

    “So when gamepro do this its utter sacrelidge and can never be true”

    The bias is very strong – don’t try to fight it ;). Certainly, I can say that from the demos, the differences between the Xbox 360 and PS3 versions of The Club are as minor as those between Burnout Paradise.

    Yet when that minor, barely perceivable advantage goes to the 360, it means “ZOMG!!! PS is teh sucky doom!!!!” while the reverse is dismissed with a casual wave of the hand.

    Eurogamer is also wrong about DMC 4 – it’s barely possible to tell them apart (judging from me flipping between the demo versions), though the 360 does have some minor, far-from-gamebreaking screen-tearing. I think they did say the differences are minor, but Lazy is overinflating them to serve his pro-360 agenda 😉

    I’d love to do an experiment, where I give people a generic controller and put them in front of a TV and see if they can even tell the difference. I bet not, 9/10.

  • Burns ZA

    The problem with the Gamepro article was not it’s conclusions per se, rather that it had a lot of the facts wrong!!!!! Please, lets get this straight, it’s like the author of the Gamepro article thumb sucked a lot of the content. Look at the COD 4 comparison – he totally bogged it!!!!!!! Please, you cannot compare that to this, forget Eurogamers conclusions for an instant, hell if they gave it to the PS3 it still wouldn’t give the Gamepro article credibility!!!!
    Abe move on from it. Please.

  • LazySAGamer

    @JimBob, I am just presenting the end results to be discussed on flame bait Friday. Comparing this Eurogamer article to Gamepro is a bit off. They are quite different.

    The differences are indeed minor but I remember something about 4D graphics and that the PS3 was going to wipe the floor with the 360. Then how come 18 months after it’s release it is still playing catch up?

    Is it possible that the PS3 will never outplay the 360?

  • SlippyMadFrog

    @JimBob

    “Yet when that minor, barely perceivable advantage goes to the 360, it means “ZOMG!!! PS is teh sucky doom!!!!” while the reverse is dismissed with a casual wave of the hand.”

    It was agreed by mostly everyone (except the hardest of PS3 fanboys) that the previous article stating that the PS3 is getting better with ports, was a very biased and bad article, thus it was “dismissed with a casual wave of the hand”.
    The reason why everybody is making such a big deal of xbox360 ports slightly outshining PS3 ports is because the PS3 is supposed to be a “Super Computer”. Everybody keeps on raving about the cell and how much more powerfull the PS3 is than the Xbox360. We are still waiting for some real evidence to back up the supposedly superiority of the PS3 relating to games. Thats why people are making a big deal out of this.

    evilredzombie, I guess not all news for xobx360 is bad news lately 😉

  • JimBob

    “We are still waiting for some real evidence to back up the supposedly superiority of the PS3 relating to games.”

    Well, sadly the nature of the PS3’s advantages (default hard drive, Blu Ray, complex processor architecture) means we’re not going to see too much of them in multiplatform games.

    That said, I’m not sure that a game like Uncharted could be done on the 360 without losing its complete seamlessness (basically, few noticeable load times at all ) and its utterly remarkable uncompressed surround sound. I’m not goinbg to say it’s the best looking game this generation, but it does compete with the very best on the 360 for that crown.

    Personally, I’m not too fussy about looking at every game with a magnfying glass to count polygons, but I think these fanboys wars are pointless exercises driven by people who are so heavily invested and committed to one platform that they completely lose all sense of perspective.

    For heaven’s sake, if you have one system let the people who have the competing system enjoy their games without endless nitpicking; if you have both, then buy the game for where your friends list is is or for the controller you prefer rather than endlessly obsessing about tiny differences.

  • doobiwan

    Jimbob, all in all I actually agree with you. As I said These games are not “bad” on a PS3, in fact if you never saw the other version (even if you did) to joe soap the differences are imperceivable.

    The importance of these comparisons (interestingly enough from a European site, a region that tends for favour Sony) is not in the level of blur or pixelcount. The relevance is that anyone can say honestly and with solid evidence:

    “Generally, most cross platform games run nicely on both consoles BUT they typically look just slightly better on the 360 and when there are issues it’s the PS3 that pretty much always comes off second best.”

    It’s obviously not a “console war” winning thing, you still need to consider personal preferences, exclusives and bonus features like BD.

    Or for the Sony fanboys that still don’t get it
    4games: 360>PS3 😉

  • darthdad

    @JimBob, “Personally, I’m not too fussy about looking at every game with a magnfying glass to count polygons, but I think these fanboys wars are pointless exercises driven by people who are so heavily invested and committed to one platform that they completely lose all sense of perspective.”
    Never a truer word spoken. Well said!

  • Fox1

    I see the PS3 as a BD Player with gaming functions as a bonus. Maybe games like GT5 and MGS4 will put it up as a gaming console. Not forgetting Little Big Planet.

    @JimBob- Yeah i also do think Halo 3 was a bit low on the graphics. Games like Unchartered are good but its the mediocre sales and popularity thats not helping boost the PS3.

    Halo 3 is a good example that mediocre graphics can also equal good sales. In this case it was super high sales.

  • abe

    I would take RFOM’s graphics over Halo3’s anyday!!!
    Oh and burns why on the ps3za site did you say that the gamepro article was fair but here you claim it to be obsurd?
    The problem with all this warring is that the number of xbots greatly outweighss the number of ps3fanboi’s and so no matter what, wether a ps3 version is better or not it will never be admitted and ps3 will always be said to be weaker. But sooner or later people wil be forced to admit things 😉

  • DarthPenguin

    @abe : the number of sony fanbois outweighs the number of xbots by a huge margin… in all seriousness. There are a lot more people out there that favour the 360, but as far as the fanbois go the sony camp has a lot more.

    @everyone else who doesn’t think Halo3’s graphics are that good, have you not noticed how big some of the stages in halo3 are. Some of the stage are literally kilometers long and thats why the graphics aren’t as crispy as say GOW, but then in GOW the stages are closed in and tiny.

  • darthdad

    LOL, now we are arguing about who has the most fanboys.
    Gotta love flamebait Fridays.

  • JimBob

    ” number of sony fanbois outweighs the number of xbots by a huge margin… in all seriousness. ”

    As a fan of both systems, I can tell you that I see far more xbots trolling sites like PS3fanboy and the official Playstation blog than the other way around.

    But as an Xbbox 360 fan, you probably agree with them more, so you think they’re right rather than fanboys. 😉

  • Fox1

    Yeah, HALO 3 has its draw distances in kilometers 😀
    MS does what it does best and thats games(at a gud price too ;-))
    FLAIMMME BAITTTT FRRRRIDAY!!!

  • abe

    “But as an Xbbox 360 fan, you probably agree with them more, so you think they’re right rather than fanboys.”

    That somes it up for me!

  • doobiwan

    Tsk tsk. Just because they’re right doesn’t make them fanboys 😉

    PS3 kiddies on the other hand squeal and moan every time something doesn’t blatantly favour the playstation. That’s why you seem to think there’s so many 360 fanboys – the truth hurts, real world facts, and framerates, don’t lie.

    Calling RFOM better looking than Halo is just silly. Halo’s “crime” is that they high res’ed Halo 2 objects.

    Don’t take my word for it pull up the respective reviews on Gametrailers. Halo 3 makes RFOM look like a PS2 game. In fact the only exclusive that comes anywhere near Halo is Uncharted, and that’s pushing it.

  • scotty777

    didn’t capcom what to make DMC 4 equal is every way possible? so how is this fair? sigh

  • abe

    I still think RFOM is better than Halo, Rfom had any a wow moment for me while Halo just looked cheap and lets not forget it isnt true HD 😉

  • Burns ZA

    Halo 3 is a turd, no doubt. And you can polish a turd but it’ll remain a turd.
    Uncharted is far, far better than Halo 3 in every respect IMO.
    Abe, after skim reading the final verdicts of that article initially, I thought it fair comment that PS3 non exclusives are getting better. After analysing it point by point I came to the conclusion that it was aweful. Instead of pointing it out on the PS3 forum, cause you know how much they love me on their, and I’m sick of arguing, I let it be.

  • doobiwan

    Yes Burns, an absolute turd with a metascore of 94% across 83 reviews. A turd indeed.

    Watch some of the Halo 3 RvB video’s it’ll make it easier.

  • Messiah

    @Lazy – The PS3 is going to play catchup for a long time since the 360 was released alot earlier that the PS3. If you look at a previous article you put on your site you had a comparison between 360 and PS3 from LAUNCH date and I do clearly remember the PS3 had overtaken the 360.

  • DarthPenguin

    @Messiah. But now that both consoles have been out for over a year.. things should even out. Its unfair to constantly rate current PS3 stats to 360 stats that are a year old. The PS3 is behind, and launching late is not a good excuse anymore, I’m not comparing my gaming experience a year ago to what PS3 fans are getting now as I’m wanting to play now. I’ll compare the experiences I get now across all and choose what offers the best now.

  • Messiah

    @Darth – Not sure if I explained myself clearly. All I meant was, Sales of the PS3 will be behind purely because the XBOX has an extra year or so worth of sales. But I do agree, actual game releases and quality of games should be at least the same by now.

  • doobiwan

    And who can argue against better games on a $200 360 versus a $400 PS3? 😉

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