FFD: When love turns to hate

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I’m going to start to sound like a bit of a stuck record here; but I kinda hate Metal Gear Solid V. And that’s a very different stance I had just a few weeks ago, where I was busy proclaiming it as not just my game of the year, but one of the best games I’ve ever played.

But what happened? How did I fall out of love with Kojima’s masterpiece? Like many, I’ve been disappointed by the game’s wheels coming off once Chapter 1 concludes. Further to that, it doesn’t really get better – with the ending making a mockery of the entire experience.

Mostly, it’s the stuff that’s been added in afterwards that’s gone right up my nostrils; that silly base insurance stuff you buy for real money, and the offline tax that some players are experiencing, where their hard-earned currency is being whisked away despite them not even using the online FOB nonsense.

As far as actual gameplay goes, I still think it’s great, but as a whole package, my love has turned to hate and derision. It’s not the first game to do that. Assassins Creed 3 is a prime example. It started of so well, telling the story of one of the most genuinely interesting characters in the franchise; Haytham Kenway. And then it turned out that those bits were a protracted, 8 hour long tutorial, before jumping in with one of the dullest characters in a video gamer ever, his son Connor.

Another good example is the Deadpool game – which started off as irreverent, silly and charming – and then just did the same thing for hours, eventually wearing so thin that Unicef tried raising funds for it.

Read  Metal Gear Survive is out next year February

What of you? Have you played a game that you’ve loved, only to hate it at a later stage?

Last Updated: October 16, 2015

Geoffrey Tim

Editor. I’m old, grumpy and more than just a little cynical. One day, I found myself in possession of a NES, and a copy of Super Mario Bros 3. It was that game that made me realise that games were more than just toys to idly while away time – they were capable of being masterpieces. I’m here now, looking for more of those masterpieces.

  • (Umar) Must be Cipher

    Happened to me with Dark Souls 2. Loved it at first and then I realized its just a bunch of artificial, rehashed BS. In terms of MGS V…..I personally still love it, I Still consider it one of the best games to have been released this year, much better than Witcher 3 (and yes, Witcher 3 is a much more complete and consistent package, but it’s piss boring). The game…it really did fall apart, I have delusions about that, but it’s still fun as all hell and it’s the best gameplay experience I’ve had in a very long time (Also mission 43 was the best thing ever, EVER)…That said…..it’s really, really kak to feel this way, especially with a game you enjoyed.

    • Nikola

      You didn’t like W3???? I think it could be my favorite game all time, MGS V I am going to try soon need to install it but skeptical some people say it is amazing some like Geoff say it’s rubbish!

    • WitWolfy

      WOW WOW WOW.. You hated Witcher 3????? OMW… You prefer an unfinished game that doesnt even have a proper ending (MGS V) to a game which one side quest is bigger than most games??? I’m shocked…

      • b1nd3r

        I agree i still havent gotten further than 4 hours play and the game just does not grip me

  • PoisonedBelial

    Borderlands.

    Claptrap just irritated the living shit out of me, so for that reason I just can’t bring myself to play it.

  • Rodney Dangerfield

    You want know when love turns to hate, my wife and i were happy for 20yrs, then we met, I’ll tell ya, my wife and I, we don’t think alike. She donates money to the homeless, and I donate money to the topless!. It’s tough to stay married. My wife kisses the dog on the lips, yet she won’t drink from my glass!

    • Fnuik

      I don’t know if I should laugh at this or feel sorry for you…

      • Rodney Dangerfield

        Nothing goes right I tell you, Other day I told my wife the truth. I told her I was seeing a psychiatrist. Then she told me the truth: that she was seeing a psychiatrist, two plumbers, and a bartender

        • Fnuik

          Brilliant!

        • Greylingad[CNFRMD]

          This sounds like a Foster Brooks story….

        • AfricanTime

          “my psychiatrist said i was crazy, i asked for a second opinion, he told me i was ugly too.”

          • Rodney Dangerfield

            I went to my Doctor the other day, told him ” Dr I broke my arm in 2 place” he tells “stay away from those places”

    • oVg

      Sounds like you need to activate your on disc DLC.

    • Coughsie

      I don’t know who you possessed to be able to give us your commentary but I am so grateful. Haven’t snorted with laughter like this in a while.

  • EAL money is the best money!

  • Brady miaau

    I saw this trend with Skyrim, on this very website and with my gaming friends.

    Most were singing its praises and then, they turned. They were betrayed. And some people did not like it when I remembered and found old comments where the games praises were sung. But it it happen. I still they the masses felt betrayed by the game when your actions did not actually change anything. Jarl changes, but it is the old Jarl, with a new voice and skin, really.

    • oVg

      They still have not fixed the memory leak on the PS3. Cant wait for the Bugthesda news after Fallout is released.

    • Bagel

      Dude let me break down my Skyrim experience.

      Vanilla Skyrim: 19- 20 hours.

      Modded Skyrim: 100+- hours. ez.

      Mods totally enhanced that game for me atleast.

      I went from Skyrim is good to Skyrim is actually really average to I cant actually stop playing this.

      • Brady miaau

        That is my point. If you spent 100 hours.on a game, why scream to the hills how bad it is?

        • Bagel

          Because i never spent 100 hours playing the Vanilla game. It had to be “upgraded” “made better” by mods. External files and people changing the game. Outside of Bethesda.

          Oblivion was an amazing game with-out mods. Skyrim was “average” at best with-out mods. 🙂

          • Brady miaau

            Just to note: most people I know played only Vanilla, myself included and loved it, then slowly hated it.

        • Bagel

          and adding to the people screaming to the hills was largely based on the fact that it got hyped to those exact hills. The game never lived up to the hype. Just like any form of entertainment. The over-exaggerated hype will always “hurt” a product in the end.

          • Brady miaau

            Indeed. Hype kills on the long run.

          • HairyEwok

            Hype kills games on release date period.

  • oVg

    I went into MGSV knowing from the previous games that the story should not be taken seriously and that the STYLE of the aesthetic is going to win me over no matter what garbage narrative was thrown at us. I am in it for the gameplay.

    Im well over 200hours now and just enjoy being a BADASS while on my free roaming sorties. GAMEPLAY is KING.

    I dont think a single person ever finished Skyrim either but jumping into that atmospheric world was addictive.

    In this quick fix generation that play spurts of on-line shooters everyday its no wonder people just dont have the time to immerse themselves by themselves.

    Games like MGSV give you a SANDBOX to play any way you want. If you get bored, then mix things up.

    You also have to ask yourself, how many hours did I spend enjoying the experience. If its longer than the price of admission then it worked. Everybody gets bored. I think Hate is the wrong word.

    I got bored of The Order 1886, I HATE the fact I spent so much money. If it was the price of a 5hour then its a keeper to be re-watched again in the future.

    MGSV deserves GOTY status. Its a technical marvel and a JOY to play.

    • (Umar) Must be Cipher

      That said, I’m not in the same camp that completely dismisses the story of MGS V. It’s wasn’t amazing….but I don’t think it was garbage like other people do. It was compelling, and it had some completely amazing moments. I’m still with you, that MGS V should be GOTY, no other game hooked me, on gameplay alone, as much as MGS V did. It gave you such fine levels of freedom like no other game has ever done before.

      • oVg

        To the laymen I can understand what they mean about the narrative. As somebody who played Peace walker and Snake Eater and understand the timeline I thought it kicked ass. The only gripe I have with the game is the shaky cam

        Otherwise the game was exactly how its always been since 1986, same concepts just with a 2015 coating.

        It would have been nice to see how Venom got the gear back from Liquid before Op Intrude (the so called cut content) but its obvious Kojima was way over ambitious.

        • (Umar) Must be Cipher

          Duuuude, I turned the shaky cam off. Made me throw up, blegh.
          I agree, Koji was way too ambitious, and it’s easy to blame Konami alone, but lets be honest, Koji is at fault too….But he and his team gave us a gameplay experience like no other, so is it really that much of a problem? No, not at all. Not in the least.
          That said, there is a lot holes I wished they filled up, besides Liquid, like why did Kaz end up joining FOXHOUND for one. I get he hated BB and that he trained Solid Snake but why did he join FOXHOUND when BB was there too lol…But agh, it was an interesting twist and how he just injected Venom into the original Metal Gear game lol

          • oVg

            lol, Kojima always confused the shit out of me 😉 however MGSV with a sprinkle of backstory worked as its own game. To me MGSV is all about the relationship between V and Quiet. She owned Sniper Wolf.

            Also, Kojima has always been a type of Tom Clancy when it comes to predicting future warfare. If its not rail guns its Viral warfare. I loved the concept of the unique WMD in this game. 🙂

            I would not be surprised if Microbots become part of future warfare.

            I learnt that all Anime and Otaku should be taken with a pinch of salt even if it has a serious foundation.

            Unique and refreshing 🙂

          • (Umar) Must be Cipher

            LOL Unique it is, buddy. I loved Quiet…A shame about the ending of her arc…All in all. Ace game. Just want to say Big Boss is P**S…Venom FTW

          • oVg

            Ya, killing his mentor to save Americas face changed him. That salute at the end of Snake Eater is when he turns against the world. Then V just did his biding.

          • (Umar) Must be Cipher

            Indeed…but to think he was actually do something like what he did with Venom, it made him look like a coward 🙁

          • oVg

            I got the impression that V was honored, hence the grin on his face when all is revealed. I still cant decide if V went against him and created his own morals making BB send Snake to kill him. But yeah, a huge loop hole in the ethics of BB thinking process.

          • (Umar) Must be Cipher

            That’s what fans speculate. That Venom went his own way and went against BB and BB sent Snake to kill. Other believe that Venom took the fall for Big Boss…In both cases BB looks like the ass lol

          • oVg

            I wonder if that is the point.

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            You’ve all been played by the “inscrutable Japanese” card. All these fan theories looking for meaning when there isn’t any and it’s really just as shallow and nonsensical as it appears. ;P *run*

          • WitWolfy

            But thats the thing, Solid Snake Kills Phantom Boss in Outer Heaven in MG 1.. How can Phantom Boss be against BB but is at the very place BB built?

          • oVg

            I cant remember but Zero explains it in one of the tapes that BB is not in Outer heaven. He is in hiding. V ends up building Outer Heaven (Mother Base) and builds a nuke. BB was sunbathing in the Caribbean rubbing sun lotion on his Harley Davidson the bastard 😛

          • WitWolfy

            I still dont get what was the point of The Les Enfants Terribles project if you could just brainwash any idiot to think he is big boss to begin with.

          • WitWolfy

            You do know they (the American government) had to kill Boss right? That was the only way America could preserve the peace against them and Russia after Sokolov shot that American warhead, nuking a Russian military compound.

          • oVg

            Ya but Snake was played, he was pissed at the end.

          • WitWolfy

            You know whats the funny thing?? At one part Kaz says.. “We arent strong enough to fight Cipher yet, recruit more men”. I think at some point in the game we we’re supposed to attack cipher at his base, but that got cut too! Heck even when Huey finished the Metal Gear he was like.. “Use it in the field…” but never could! WTF?!

          • oVg

            Check out the cut footage called peace on youtube. So much should have been in the game lol

          • WitWolfy

            Yeah saw that.. Seemed alright..

          • oVg

            Liquid is still a dick

          • WitWolfy

            Good question. did you hear that damn tape convo of him and Ocelot.. It’s was like .. “What you knew about this.. WELL THE HELL with you!!! I’m your enemy now.. But I’m gonna still stay here for time being.. So um we’ll still see each other around the base.. BUT WE’RE ENEMIES NOW!!” I was like WTF… What crappy writing and motive to keep him in the game…

          • oVg

            Who? All I know is that Ocelot said he was prepared for the brainwashing to believe that V is snake and said goodbuy and good luck to BB, or was that Kaz?

          • WitWolfy

            Kaz was like he hates BB all of a sudden because of the deception.. Then Ocelot said something of the age of his clones yack yack yack. Then Kaz spouted some other BS of if Ocelot trains Eli AKA Liquid, then Kaz will train David.. aka Solid Snake to kill BB. end of Convo..

          • oVg

            Oh yeah I remember that. I was drunk at the time but ya, I hated Kaz, he was way too over melodramatic. At least I am big boss and can kick the dick off Outer Heaven when I want 😛

          • WitWolfy

            talking about Outer Heaven..

            http://i.imgur.com/4gdpEIY.jpg

          • oVg

            LOL

      • Mabenito

        To: oVg and (Umar)

        • oVg

          I need to upgrade my Fulton for all those thumbs 😛

          • Mabenito

            Fultron the truck instead. -10000GMB

    • Nikola

      Gameplay is important I agree but to me so is the, like Shadow of Mordor had awesome gameplay but the story completely spoiled it for me hated the game because of it! On the other hand Uncharted gameplay is meh very average however the story experience is amazing, I guess it’s what you feel like it and personal preference end of the day!

      • oVg

        Uncharted surprised me, Im playing Brutal mode and its like Gears of War had a baby with Tomb Raider. I forgot how fun popping off head shots with limited ammo can be 🙂

        • Alien Emperor Trevor

          Phrasing.

    • WitWolfy

      “MGSV deserves GOTY status. Its a technical marvel and a JOY to play.”

      Said no MGS veteran .. EVER!

      Sorry bro have to disagree with you on that one. Sure the gameplay is awesome. But MGS has always been about the story driven aspect.. Not the scale.

      • oVg

        It is the bastard child, but for a swan song it was fine. Especially that we the player are all big boss, use your own Avatar after finishing it and just jump into the sandbox and play 🙂

        • WitWolfy

          Swansong? nahh.. MGS V was supposed to be how we see BB went from Hero to straight up “villian”. We never got that though… Probably in DLC? This Konami after all.

          • oVg

            If its DLC ill be so pissed and so will all the fans. Then they will promptly buy it lol
            Im fine, the game finished at mission 45 for me 🙂 Otherwise Im still hunting for resources and have 4% till the nuke is finished, Im not going to dismantle it either even if the 4th ending is unlocked. THATS MY NUKE 😛

  • Hammersteyn

    Destiny. Love, hate, love, hate, love, hate.

    • Fnuik

      Op en af soos ‘n hoer se broek.

      • Hammersteyn

        LOL!

      • Grand Admiral Chief

        xD

    • AfricanTime

      nope just pure hate 🙂

      • Hammersteyn

        I hate the black spindle mission. Couldn’t even get close to dropping the boss. Pure frustration. Plus the nerfed the damage from 310 to 290. Except for those that have it

    • Nikola

      hahahaha yeah last night we felt some hate from you;) I missed nightfall last week as well really need to do it this week:( Plus i know u will help me bcuz u love it so much lately!

      • Hammersteyn

        Yeah, started with serious lag in PVP. Then not being able to raid(I dont blame anyone and I understand life comes first, it’s just disappointing looking forward to it and not doing it)Then useless drops in the nightfall for the third time in a row I think, then failing at black spindle. good fun

    • Alien Emperor Trevor

      That’s how I feel about Grindframe, Choreframe, Waitframe sometimes.

    • 40 Insane Frogs

      I’m on the Destiny love-hate rollercoaster ride as well… sigh!

  • Bagel

    Every 30 minutes I fall out of love with dota2

    I then realise that my heart knows fuck all and i search for another game.

  • Alien Emperor Trevor

    Skyrim. Fallout 3. They started out awesome but as you went along they just became more & more dull as you slowly realised how empty the worlds really were. Come at me, bro!

    • AfricanTime

      was there a different version of skyrim you were playing or something?

      • Alien Emperor Trevor

        Skyrim was a prettier, less-good Oblivion. It actually really disappointed me in that sense because I was hoping for far more from it – it really didn’t advance the series as much as previous entries progressively did.

        • Bagel

          Completely agree, Oblivion had that amazing NPC Scripting where a NPC would do stuff throughout the day in the world,Most times not doing the same thing twice. Oblivion in my opinion was the 2nd best ES behind Morrowind. My opinion

        • AfricanTime

          i agree with you , like most of these rpg games, once you hit a certain level it becomes a game of swotting flies. but never hate or disappointment.

        • Dutch Matrix

          Hence why my excitement levels for Fallout 4 is at zero.

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            I can’t say I’m excited for F4, but I am optimistic. It really needs a strong main story.

            You can only explore so many deserted factories, kill the rad roach, and loot an empty can and a bottle cap before it becomes dull.

          • Dutch Matrix

            Yup. I loved Skyrim and sank quite a few hours into it. I guess if I am handing over R800.00 – R900.00 for a game, I want a new experience gameplay wise. So far it seems F4 is going to be more of the same with a shinier coat. Kinda like Batman Arkham Knight.

        • Nikola

          Oblivion > Skyrim any day!!!

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            Yip. Played Oblivion so many times, at least 7/8 – every time a new DLC came out meant a complete new play through, then with Oscuro’s mod.

          • Nikola

            Me too haha I finished it quite a few times, the DLC were so much fun I really loved the Isle of Shagoroth (cant spell his name). I ended up installing sooooo many mods (that’s why I miss my PC) in that game just so I can play it a bit longer!

    • Greylingad[CNFRMD]

      This^^ I have the exact same sentiment towards Fallout 3 and Skyrim…

  • Greylingad[CNFRMD]

    I’m starting to hate Bloodborne…

    • Loftus

      Only starting to hate Bloodborne? i think i started hating myself for playing it for so long….

      • Greylingad[CNFRMD]

        I don’t know if it’s just me, but when a games’ mechanics are specifically designed to hamper your chances of success I get really fed up really quickly… As an example, I’m stuck at the Blood Thirsty Beast, every single time I fight it, I end up etching away at it’s health until there is less than an eighth of it left and every.single.time. that bloody thing storms me and anihalates me from full health to none with unavoidable attacks…. I have strong feelings about breaking my controller in half inside the rear end of the game designers rear end at this stage….

        • Loftus

          Hahahaha i know the feeling well. My wife laughed at me telling the game how i am going to burn the disc and then drive over it with my car then sell it for cigarette money!

          I was glad i finished it and swore i’ll never play it again. Now with The Hold hunt coming out i think to myself it couldn’t have been that bad! hahahaha the insanity of it all!

          • Greylingad[CNFRMD]

            Clearly we are fitting the description of the M in S&M….

          • Loftus

            or just really dumb. hahaha 🙂

        • (Umar) Must be Cipher

          What game isn’t designed to hamper your success? Low health boss rage has been around since nes 😀

          • Greylingad[CNFRMD]

            HAHAHA!! I know, but Bloodborne…BLOODBORNE…. the level of frustration involved is not caused by enemies being difficult, it’s caused by the level design being an additional obstacle added to an already hampered endurance system tied to your attacks… I think I need a bigger controller to snap in that rear end…

          • (Umar) Must be Cipher

            I feel you. The BTB boss level was crazy. All those pillars in the way. You wanna dodge? BOOM, you dodged into the pillar, DEAD.

          • Greylingad[CNFRMD]

            Exactly!! Oh he’s close, let me get out of the… YOU DIED….Load screen, ok, this time I’m going to….YOUD DIED…What!? I didn’t even what the hell? F*(*&#UJH&^*^&@^%HG^ This Game!! I hate it!! Let me just try one more time…

          • (Umar) Must be Cipher

            LOL trust me, take a break, go somewhere all or kill random enemies. When you become frustrated, that’s when you mess up.

          • Greylingad[CNFRMD]

            I know, I’ve run through that level repeatedly, simply to farm resources and see if levelling up helps, yet I return every single time…

          • Loftus

            I think i used a bottle of blood something, threw it at the beast, rolled away and then whipped its ass, then rinse and repeat.

          • Greylingad[CNFRMD]

            Is it really that simple? I usually walk in there with a ton of molotovs and antidotes, then counter with the blunderbus and use the special attack, wondering if I’m not getting too close every time…. I will definately give it a go, is it the blood luring thing?

          • Loftus
          • Greylingad[CNFRMD]

            asdkjfgdsailasd;op;p’oegklk mjnhjuiklodlo.aaadslkjmj…… That was my head hitting the keyboard…. Thanks man!! That will help a tonne!! Finally I can get past it…

          • Loftus

            Did you get it right?

          • Greylingad[CNFRMD]

            Ok, so I set out this weekend with the idea of slaughtering the Blood starved Beast by making use of the pungent blood cocktail… After spending about 12000 blood echoes on them, I march in, fully prepped, with molotovs, fire paper, an upgraded sawblade and numerous other items… I chuck the first blood cocktail and it still charges me, second, third…up to 8th, realised the trick didn’t work quite as well as I thought it would and ran like hell! I eventually beat it, but not in the way I thought I would…so it’s all good! now for the next one…

    • Nikola

      Aren’t you supposed to hate those type of games, and yourself?? 🙂

      • Greylingad[CNFRMD]

        Yes, and I do… And I should feel ashamed….

        • Nikola

          hahaha!

    • WitWolfy

      I could only play Bloodborne for like the first 20 hours.. Havent gone back since…

      • Greylingad[CNFRMD]

        A big part of the game is the payoff once you slain a monster…. I find it to be a little thinly spread, the payoff that is….

        • WitWolfy

          I always summoned buddies to help me slay those damn demon spawn bosses.. But I actually wanna delete the whole game again. and do that dupe glitch again.. I wanna create a 999 hunter this time and see what happens!

  • David Weatherhead

    I might be crucified for this… but, The Witcher.

    I started playing it, and I really enjoyed it, but I had this constant irksome feeling regarding the controls and combat and the cutscenes. I pushed through I kept trying, because my heart told me this game is amazeballs… But my brain just wouldn’t let go, and eventually I just gave up.

    It’s stopped me trying the second and third games, which I will give a go to see if those elements that irked me are gone.

    • (Umar) Must be Cipher

      You’re spot on though. The controls and combat was completely ass.

    • Loftus

      Burn the non believer! 😛

    • Nikola

      You crazy dude;)

    • Alien Emperor Trevor

      I’ve played them all. W1 is nothing like W2 which is nothing like W3. They get progressively better. If you play any, play 3 – because that’s one of the best RPGs you’ll ever play.

      I remember that timed rhythm combat from 1, it wasn’t fun. And don’t get me started on the level load times of the unenhanced version.

      • Nikola

        ahhhh the combat was sooo funny in 1! The way he was holding his sword in the air and then everybody just stands there and waits before get hit! Still an good game in my books though loved all of them,

        • Alien Emperor Trevor

          I enjoyed them all. People seem to forget, especially if they try playing it now, that W1’s combat was really a product of its time. Back then it was either real time with pause like the Baldur’s Gates or clickety-click like Diablo, they tried something different.

    • Brady miaau

      I am with you. It felt like a grind towards what I hope is the end. Cause I am near there now.

  • Loftus

    I fell in love with WoW (vanilla), started to hate it The burning Crusade, from there on it was down hill but i kept on playing till the second last expansion ( WoW panda made in china edition).

    • Nikola

      Panda’s really ruined it for me as well had enough! I enjoyed Cata quite a bit was raiding a LOT but Mists of Pandaria was such a disappointment raids were terrible and all those dailies my word:(

      • Loftus

        Raiding messes with real life. Six days a week, from 19:00 till 23:00 no, just no! And that was in Burning crusade days!

        • Nikola

          Yeah look Burning Crusade was a grind, the raiding back then was a LOT more difficult and it took a lot more time, I am glad they cut that down in WotLK and Cata.

    • Bagel

      Thoughts on using ingame gold to purchase game time? Good move? Was it too late?

      • Loftus

        I have no idea still have like 200k gold in the game, but i am not going to buy game time just to sell said gold for more game time. I am a reformed wow addict

  • Nikola

    For me personally in recent memory it was Mad Max started off so well enjoyed it sooo much and then it just started feeling like a chore with same things to do over and over. Also Shadow of Mordor which is to this day one of the biggest disappointments ever for me, gameplay is great nemesis system is awesome even though it gets old if u play it too much but the whole issue with that game is the story it gripped me sounded so interesting than it was such a letdown at the end that I ended up hating the game!

  • Alien Emperor Trevor

    I started hating Saints Row IV after a few hours, so much that I stopped playing. Makes me a touch sad because I was quite enjoying its silly story. I mean come on, Vice President Keith David? He’s the bee’s knees.

  • Grand Admiral Chief

    Half Life 3. I started hating it when it kept on being delayed

    • Loftus

      There is this guy at the intersection that keeps on trying to sell me that game, along with Avatar 2 Blu ray…maybe i should get it

      • Splooshypooh

        Imagine making a youtube unboxing 😛 The shitstorm that would cause

  • Grand Admiral Chief

    The Riddick games….

    • Greylingad[CNFRMD]

      Holy smokes…. a half working mashup of not so stealthy stealth that manages to bite you in the ass the whole time…I made it 5 minutes into the one and decided I’ll give it a skip…

    • Nikola

      Those games were a sad mess…

  • Grand Admiral Chief

    Red Faction 2, after 29 minutes, I pulled the plug for ever

  • Grand Admiral Chief

    Proteus….very soon

  • Grand Admiral Chief

    ALL the Mario and ALL the SF games

    [waits for response]

    • Alien Emperor Trevor

      No, he’s expecting that. Try…

      Fuck, that Cuphead is such a load of overrated crap.

      • Grand Admiral Chief

        Oh, nice one!

  • WitWolfy

    Happened to me with MGS V.. When I first played the prologue I was like.. THIS IS HOW A MGS GAME SHOULD BE!!! 10 hours later catching my what felt the billionth dude for MB I started seeing the cracks… Realizing how empty and and unfinsihed this game really is.. repeated missions on higher difficulties, the lack of Va from BB.. IT all just fell apart… I really really hate MGS V with everything inside of me…

    What I expected MGS V to be…
    http://www.twinfinite.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/mgsv-blood.jpg

    What MGS V really is…
    http://i.imgur.com/9ebjWU6.jpg

  • Brady miaau

    I feel the burnout with most games these days.

    Grind, chore. But this new trend of trying to make the biggest, longest game bothers me. It means these games lend themselves to this type of love / hate thing.

    Why can the makers not try and compete with the best games? Harder to measure, I suppose

    • Greylingad[CNFRMD]

      You see, it’s easier to place a set quantity of content over a map than trying to connect said dots with story, a game that did it well was GTA V, but the recipe nowadays for creating a long game is to scatter content over the map and hope the fetch quest will keep people busy, yes, TW3 did a great job at telling stories, random ones too, but there was still no form of entertainment on the way from A to B….Given though, that that is an almost impossible task…

      • Nikola

        Very true lot of game’s do it now days sometimes too much of a good thing is bad, I believe Mad Max would have been much better game if it wasn’t so big as the world is very bland! Adding random exactly same side activities doesn’t add quality to the games just makes the game feel like a grind. I think TW3 nailed it for me some side quest are even better than most game campaigns.

        But then again we complain so much when the game is too short and we have to pay full price for it:(

        • Greylingad[CNFRMD]

          That’s the thing though, in TW3 you had this amazing production value for the side quests, I’m not trying to take any of that away, but once you walk away, especially after already plunging a good 150 hours of gameplay into the game, it’s still the same, go to A to fetch the testicle of a werewolf, return it to B where you’ll have to make a potion with it. You do discover a few animals/monsters on the way, but they usually end up being slain and you walking away with broken harks and nothing much else, where if you take GTAV, your trip to A is populated with hilarious conversations, hell, even the radio stations have some of the best satire I’ve heard in years….

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            Clearly you’ve never had to find the Pellar’s goat. 😉

          • Greylingad[CNFRMD]

            That bloody goat…

          • Nikola

            Ohh ok I see exactly what you mean and your right. World of GTA is more vibrant feels alive and there is stuff to do even of you not on a mission or quest. You are actually spot on there Witcher doesn’t have that actually any game besides GTA V that I can think of! It does truly feel alive the world even if u just roam and do random stuff,

  • b1nd3r

    Funny thing about mgs V, The gameplay is amazing no doubt, story is still a shit ton better than 90% of any other games out there(besides the fact that there are f00k all good SP games anymore). Yes the story was rushed in the end and left a lot hanging but the game leads for either an expansion(dlc) or new game. Still more potential than playing dust 11 over and over against butch from the south tuning my grandmother for cheating >.<

    • WitWolfy

      I wonder if that chapter 3 allegations are true?? I saw on Reddit that some people claim this game actually had 5 chapters and a epilogue at one stage.

      INSANE!

      • b1nd3r

        I know about the 3rd chapter there is a lot of footage from cutscenes of it and story rundowns, Didnt hear about another 2 chapters though 😛

  • Grand Admiral Chief

    Cuphead, so silly

  • Lardus-For the Emperor!

    Loved WoW, started hating it, then my line got stolen and I suddenly missed it 😛

  • Ghost In The Rift

    Love MGS:V , but a little hate grew from these FOB missions thats online and…..BATLLE GEAR!!! WTF was up with that, cant use it in the field, deployment missions only and you might even loose it, and the metal gear it self, was so hyped to jump in it and listen to the Afrikaaners freak out at “the devils house”, a game never sticke’d me so hard like MGS: V just did, will be remembered forever.

  • Mabenito

    FIFA titles. All of them…

  • 40 Insane Frogs

    My love-hate for Destiny.

    I’m back to hating it again, because (a) it’s too much of a time sink, and (b) I’ll never be on at the “right times” to join and participate in a raid (…. or to get my freaking exotic sword). The social aspect of Destiny is something that I’ve come to love and hate… with a passion!

    :/

  • Deceased

    Sven Bomwollen – Hated myself for playing it – loved every moment of playing it 😐

  • The Sten

    When i start hating a game, i just quit playing.

    Never finished The Witcher 1 or 2. Fallout 3 i accidentally finished the main quest early and felt i had no real incentive to keep on playing.

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