MGS Tells PSN to go jump

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Gizmo rules

It’s strange really I was posting on a local forum earlier today about the difference between PSN and Xbox Live.

The most common complaint about Live is that Microsoft charge for the service when Sony offer the same thing for free. Well this is yet another example of you getting what you pay for.

Metal Gear Online is about to be launched and Konami has managed to get it so badly wrong it is quite suprising.

So you want to play MGO, well easy enough then. You put the disc in and it will then check if you have a Konami ID  (a what?) if you don’t it will automatically boot up the browser and take you over to http://id.konami.net to sign up for a Konami ID…

So now you have your PSN integrated ID and a Konami integrated ID, great lets play…

Well it’s not that easy you see, before you can start playing you also need to sign up for a MGO Game ID…. Because your PSN integrated ID and Konami integrated ID don’t seem to mean jack…

So if you want to play MGO you are now forced to have 3 usernames and passwords before getting into the game in the first place. It has to be said that Microsoft would never stand for that and that is yet another reason why Xbox Live is better than PSN.

Konami: The Metal Gear Online ID Clusterfuck

PS: As to why there is a picture of Gizmo… Well I searched for Xbox Live vs PSN and he popped up and I love Gizmo… so yeah, no reason but he’s cool…

Last Updated: April 15, 2008

Gavin Mannion

I for one welcome our future robotic overlords

  • That’s a bit of a pain. I can’t see them keeping this setup – it seems a bit redundant and will surely cause an a bit of an outcry.

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  • Fox1

    “PS: As to why there is a picture of Gizmo… Well I searched for Xbox Live vs PSN and he popped up and I love Gizmo… so yeah, no reason but he’s cool…”
    Just don’t drop water on him!!!

    I think he should be the mascot for the site 🙂

  • Darthdad

    LOL , I’m really looking forward to playing MGO(for free).
    I’m thinking of selling the Xbox and seven games, so I can install a faster line.
    What do you think????? Not worth it because of the extra user names and passwords?

  • Fox1

    [re=11414]Darthdad[/re]: You going to run quiet a big loss selling your 360 considering the price cuts but i agree about the free part.

  • There’s no doubt the shout out for free live is reaching a fever pitch. I’ll bet biscuits that Microsoft offers something in that vein this year.

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  • LazySAGamer

    I am not so sure they are going to be offering a free live anytime soon…

    The cost of keeping all of that going and upgrading cannot be ignored and the way they have it now they can give exact stats to the developers and publishers on how many times a game is played online and for how long….

    I expect a possible price cut and a whole bunch of bundled 12 month cards but I doubt they will just stop charging.

    I recharged on Monday so would I get a refund?

  • “So if you want to play MGO you are now forced to have 3 usernames and passwords before getting into the game in the first place. It has to be said that Microsoft would never stand for that and that is yet another reason why Xbox Live is better than PSN.”

    Shakes finger at Lazy…

  • “yet another reason why Xbox Live is better than PSN”

    … How the poo is it PSN’s fault?

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  • LazySAGamer

    [re=11433]Jinja[/re]: Because Sony doesn’t have the integrated ability to cater for what is required. They should also be putting their foot down and telling Konami to go jump…

    An integrated service is meant to mean one userid and password all round…. Wait for another 10 games to do this and then you will be sitting with a huge list of usernames and passwords just to play games.

    and before you say it won’t happen, I said it would on the mandatory installs and just look what happened there 😉

  • Abe

    Haha here I thought that you were gonna tell us we woould have to pay to play, and all this with the beta landing tomorrow! Three Passwords VS Paying = easy choice.
    Lazy im surprised you havent had a story on the updated psn while we are talking about how crap it is 😉

  • boredhousewife

    Unfortunately its a case of getting what you pay for – would WoW be as succesful or good as it is if it were free ?
    I don’t think MS will ever make Live free but rather concentrate on adding value to the experience that PSN will struggle to keep up with. Unfortunately us poor shlubs in SA will continue to suck the hind tit as long as the cost and quality of our “broadband” is what it is.

  • LazySAGamer

    [re=11440]Abe[/re]: PSN hasn’t been updated as far as I know, they just got a pretty new store which has done away with the old HTML version and added a more interactive fat client version…

    Apart from a few opening day glitches it seems to have gone down okay, however the lack of excitement all around was the deciding point in me not posting about it… No one seemed to phased apart from the dedicated PS3 sites…

    maybe I missed something else?

  • Abe

    Or maybe cos there was no way to spin it as bad news?

  • LazySAGamer

    lol I find this quite amusing really…

    I was having a chat with James the other day and he was saying that a bunch of people he knows get upset with this site because I only post good PS3 news and knock the 360 all the time.

    Then I get constant emails and comments about how I only post good 360 news and bad PS3 news.

    I could easily ‘spin’ the new PSN store into bad news and have made a concerted effort not to. I don’t think it’s uber amazing that Sony has finally upgraded their crappy store but I do find it amazing that as simple as that store is they released it filled with bugs, and the complaints of non loading thumbnails and the slow speed have been flooding in.

    If Sony manages to get Home or an ingame XMB out then I will be impressed. The ingame XMB has been requested since before the PS3 was released and it still hasn’t surfaced… I would rather say nice things about the upcoming PS3 games rather than the shoddy PSN upgrades.

  • Tan365

    lol, ain’t that the truth

    Lazy seems to always blame publisher decisions on the core structure or service of the PS3 and/or PSN. It looks like Konami dropped the ball here. But i hope this is sorted for when the EU Beta (which caters for SA) goes live.

  • LazySAGamer

    [re=11449]Tan365[/re]: I am saying the publisher shouldn’t be given the choice here…

    Sony needs to decide if they really want to compete against Live and if so then they need to put a lot more attention into the PSN and enforcing some integration rules

  • “Or maybe cos there was no way to spin it as bad news?”

    OUCH! I’m not taking sides here, but Lazy, this article DOES seem uncharacteristically biased on your part. In the past, I’ve always been impressed at how you don’t let your preference for Xbox360 interfere with the integrity of the articles. Perhaps I’m just reading too much into it.

    Re. the new PS3 firmware which I installed last night, I am VERY enthusiastic about it, even if it only brought with it some small changes. The new store is fantastic, and I bought three small games for my girlfriend to play. It was easily the simplest online purchase/download I’ve ever made. It just highlighted everything that I’ve come to love about my PS3.

  • LazySAGamer

    To be honest I don’t see how this can be defended, it is an obvious pain in the ass which goes against everything PSN was meant to offer. Accepting it will just give PS3 fans endless months of annoyance.

    I can see no good reason for enforcing multiple logins and it has nothing to do with being anti-Sony or the PSN…

    If Live did this then the story would be the same just with a different title 😉

    You want to complain about Lazy developers then go after Konami, they could have integrated with the PSN if they really tried but instead they give you a dodgy second best attempt

  • SlippyMadFrog

    Lazy, you wrote nothing wrong here. Don’t listen to these PS3 fanboys. PS3 and Xbox360 have flaws and you write equaly about both of them.

    @ all the PS3 fans: PSN is worse than XBL, deal with it! Thats what you get for a free service. Just like xbox360 fans have to deal with the constant stream of RROD articles.

  • SlippyMadFrog

    @ Abe
    Please dude, Lazy isn’t part of some conspiracy against the PS3. Maybe you should just accept that the PS3 isn’t perfect and journalist will write about its flaws, get over it!

  • I’m expecting a HUGE announcement from Microsoft about its Live! service as soon as Home drops on the PS3.

    Another point is – I’d rather pay MS for Live! than have them resort it too a free service and then stagnate.

    Bad News about the PSN update: The store is a chore to navigate – it is damn slow – which could be a cause of all the hits after the update.
    Secondly – The European store has the most inane categorization. No seperate field to find Demo’s, no filter for PS1 games. It’s a mess compared to the US store.

    -Thats enough bad news for Lazy to have reported on if it was his intention.
    I suggest the complainents remove the massive chip from their shoulders.

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  • It’s a pity that everyone who stands up and objects to a flippant comment needs to get labelled a “fanboy”. What a cop-out. Oh well, no more good can come from this. 🙁

  • Fox1

    [re=11453]LazySAGamer[/re]: I wonder if PSN will be able to handle all the MGO users or will it crash 😉

    Personally, I think that Lazy sees both the PS3 and 360 equally. There is tons of pro PS3 news here.

    @all the PS3 fanboys: The PS3 will always be criticized because SONY charges so much for the PS3(2.5x the price of the Arcade) and boasts about the superiority of the hardware and games.

  • Abe

    Come on Lazy, you must have gotten to know me by know, I love your site and visit it multiple times everyday.
    I know that you have admitted to being biased, and while you try your best to be subjective it does still show on occasion, the fact that me voicing this opinion gets me auto-fanboy status show that you obviously have many a biased reader too.
    But I will maintain that I will still gladly use three password over paying! ps with the game not having been released yet, its a bit wayward to state it as catergorical fact!

  • LazySAGamer

    I do have a thing against Sony due to their previous arrogance, however have also posted previously that I am glad to see that is falling by the wayside now… The PS3 is becoming a very good competitor but the PSN service is still lacking.

    Oh and how do you like my new comments setup?
    [Update] which is experiencing some bugs… I am working on it 🙁

  • It’s cool. Compartmentalised – I like. Kudo’s on giving yourself a red block 🙂

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  • Since we’re talking about PSN here, here’s an interesting article posted today.

    http://www.ps3fanboy.com/2008/04/16/sony-proves-your-psn-qualms-dont-fall-on-deaf-ears/

  • oops!

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  • SlippyMadFrog

    Abe, your opinion gets you auto-fanboy status because its
    biased way towards the PS3. Are you going to deny this?

    “The xbox is a piece of toast in sh!t cloathing” – Abe

  • Can’t we all just get along?

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  • Fox1

    So far so good. Could you please make our names bigger and
    restore the old date format. Also, there seems to be no text
    wrapping 🙁

  • LazySAGamer

    I will take a look….

    For your quick info the image is from http://www.gravatar.com and you can go there and sign up and it will become personalised…

    However text wrapping seems to work, it’s just the textbox that is all pear shaped :S

  • darthdad

    Ok, back from the load shed. What did I miss?

  • LazySAGamer

    You have no idea how much I loath load shedding… I get to go to bed at 6 tomorrow 🙁

  • darthdad

    Yup, another early night tommorrow for me too.

  • Ok some surfing done, Konami is hosting the BETA, not PSN. Hence, therefore Konami can ask you for 500 logins.

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  • Abe

    “The xbox is a piece of toast in sh!t cloathing” – Abe
    Slippy you know well and good that I made that statement as a joke, infact I said so about two posts later. Now misquoting, thats a fanboy tactic 😉
    I know I prefer the PS3 I have never denied that, but that alone cannot make me a fanboy, I have played all systems enough to make an educated decision and I chose the PS3 because I feels it best suits me!
    But being labelled a fanboy becuase I disagree with a biased opinion is quite sad really!

  • LazySAGamer

    Exactly… PSN should be hosting it, however hosting these things costs money and since PSN is free they won’t do it. Which leaves us the gamers picking up the flack….

  • It’s nothing personal, it’s just because you ARE a fanboy, Abe 😉

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  • Abe, the mark of a fanboy is that your console can do no wrong, and you celebrate when something bad happens to the other console. Go ahead, deny it. 😉

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  • Fox1

    There seems to be a lack of consisting on PSN. I think Konami knows that PSN can’t handle MGO.

  • Abe

    has your xbox ever done wrong doobi?

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