Microsoft’s adopted Sony’s Arrogance

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Arrogant

Sony unanimously won the last generation of the console war – with the PlayStation 2 becoming one of the best selling gaming systems of all time. That victory in hand, they kicked off the current generation with a terrible sense of arrogance – so wonderfully encapsulated by Ken Kutaragi’s bold statement that everybody should get a second job to buy a PlayStation 3.

They seem to have learned from that unbridled arrogance and have become a little more humble as a result. Microsoft, on the other hand, started the generation as the underdog – but have become a major force to be reckoned with as the top selling HD console in the US, taking away Sony’s crown. They also seem to have inherited Sony’s arrogance.

In an interview on Gametrailers, Xbox head Don Mattrick responded to questions about the Xbox One’s perpetual internet connection with a rather assuming, supercilious comment.

“We have a product for people who aren’t able to get some form of connectivity; it’s called Xbox 360,” he said.“If you have zero access to the Internet, that is an offline device.”

He affirms that people need to see and play the thing before judging it and its internet connectivity.

“I think in the long run, we’ll build a global leading product that people are going to love and embrace,” he said.

“It’s very important to them and they’re opinionated. And they’re smart. So they look at all those things and say ‘Hey, is this going to impact me in a negative way?’ And until you use it, it’s really hard to understand what all the advantages are.”

Other than hot swopping games, and the extra cloud processing, I can’t really think of many advantages – especially not when my internet is down because I live in Africa.

Last Updated: June 12, 2013

Geoffrey Tim

Editor. I’m old, grumpy and more than just a little cynical. One day, I found myself in possession of a NES, and a copy of Super Mario Bros 3. It was that game that made me realise that games were more than just toys to idly while away time – they were capable of being masterpieces. I’m here now, looking for more of those masterpieces.

  • Rinceyouropinion

    Hot swapping Geoff? Did Darryn hog the blanket and keep you up last night? Trololo! Screw you Don Mattrick. #sonyftw

    • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

      Clearly Don Mattrick’s magical jacket failed him….

    • X1 will Dominate

      Lol I dont know what all you guys are getting excited about. DRM is
      still there for the PS4 and will be an reality, because its up to the
      developers whether or not they choose their product to be able to trade
      in for a friend, retailers etc. only bad thing about PS4 is that you
      would then have to be online ALL the time while playing a game so they
      can make sure your not abusing their DRM policy, rather than X1 where
      you just have to log in óncé everyday. On the X1 you will even be able
      to trade your game to a friend on the other side of the planet
      DIGITALLY, and he will be able to return it or buy it with your
      approval, without actually having to meet up with a physical disc.
      So
      you might not have to log in everyday on the PS4, but in longer terms
      the X1 will dominate the PS4 as the developers will turn their back on
      PS4 or make it so that you have to be online ALL time while gaming, even
      single-player which would suck balls really hard..
      Not only that,
      thx to the extreme cloud processing power and the all new XLive, X1 will
      dominate PS4 and be a much better gaming console especially for those
      who love big online persistent and living worlds…
      + It got TV, TV, TV just in a click away 🙂 So its much FASTER, and BETTER for gaming and entertainment.
      I’ll
      go with the X1 and advice you too aswell, but I guess in a minute or
      less you will all hate on me like fanboys and tell me to stick it up
      Microsoft LOL. ragers.

  • Umar Kiiroi Senk?

    Yeah , I’m going to embrace the Xbox One ….. between my butt cheeks

    • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

      Your buttcheeks might be too small for the humongous xbox ONE! Look at it, it’s massive!

      • Umar Kiiroi Senk?

        Hmmm….true, the with Kinect

        • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

          Could be used for colonoscopy?

          • JayDiCee

            Yeah comes with Kinect just needs Vaseline 🙂

          • ElNicko

            Theres always time……

    • Hammersteyn

      Good luck with that…

      • Gustav Willem Diedericks

        I lolled!

      • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

        loooool

    • OVG

      The Kinect 2 will think you are a lamp.

      • Trevor Davies

        +1 billion upvotes!

      • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

        I giggled, and then I snorted, and then.. I rolled on the ground, laughing my ass off. 😀

        • OVG

          Something more entertaining than the current console war. 😛

          • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

            Hahahaha! That is going on my google + wall.

          • Hammersteyn

            Morgan Freeman will narrate my funeral.

          • Happy Hamster

            Chameleon has little karate chopped hands
            Brilliant

    • did you just say you would willingly take an Xbone to the ass? O_o dude….

      • Umar Kiiroi Senk?

        Hmmm! When you say it that way then ….. NO! ….. but I can see how it can be interpreted ……. I don not, I repeat, I do not have a thing for sh*tty consoles ….. phew glad I cleared that up

  • Trevor Davies

    Shut up Dot Matrix – doubling down on arrogant & stupid isn’t going to increase sales.

    • That Tall Twit

      I see what you did there. 🙂

    • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

      His jacket compels him…

      • Trevor Davies

        Is it the… One Jacket? My preciousssss

        • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

          Don Mattrick… look at his jacket!

  • FoxOneZA – X-Therminator

    This has made me realise that are a bunch of cheap-ass whiney-ass gamers out there. Each console has it’s pros and cons, you vote with your wallet. We’ve seen MS renege on Windows 8 to launch WIndows 8.1 after considerable feedback.

    I wouldn’t be getting either console at launch. There’s a barrage of this years biggest games coming on PC and they’ll cost half the price.

    Also, we’ve heard the same mumbo-jumbo about DRM and always-on internet when Steam launched and yet today it’s delivery games at 50% of the cost of the console version. If MS can replicate that with disc sales, then that would be better for the industry.

    And remember that the DRM issue on the PS4 lies in the hands of the developer. A piece of news that many have ignored. I don’t see EA forcing one kind of DRM on Xbox One and another kind of DRM on PC.

    Here’s to having a first world hobby in a third world country, yet I see people sing from the hills about their latest PSN+ freebie. Oh, but Afrika has no internetzzzz…zzzz…zzz….

    • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

      Other Jim did a nice piece about it, essentially the PS4 is following the same DRM scheme as the PS3. It’s just Polygon and their hack journalists that tried to make it seem like the PS4’s DRM is the same as the bone’s.

      http://www.destructoid.com/did-sony-confirm-drm-on-ps4-after-all-not-quite–256052.phtml

      • FoxOneZA – X-Therminator

        Nothing’s confirmed Jimmy. Sony is still fumbling around this hurdle now that MS has enforced the rule across Xbox One.

        • Spathi

          It is confirmed. By Sony. The console DOES NOT HAVE ANY DRM. The publishers do have the freedom to put in the online restrictions that they may want, just like with the PS3 and Xbox 360.

          Lol, seeing the xbots in torture is so much fun!

          • Martin du preez

            The Xbot damage controlling is HILARIOUS!

          • FoxOneZA – X-Therminator

            Xbot damage control? Read properly that I’m going PC.

          • Martin du preez

            I didn’t reply to you…better get a BIG screen for your pc.

          • FoxOneZA – X-Therminator

            LOL, seeing gullible gamers is even more fun.

          • Spathi

            Obligatory FoxOneZA theme song:

          • Umar Kiiroi Senk?

            Thanx for the video share 🙂 🙂 LOOOVE Flight

          • HvR

            all time favorite
            “They call me the Hiphopopotamus”
            “My lyrics are bottomless”
            .

            .

            .

          • Umar Kiiroi Senk?

            Oh man that dance when he says that!!! So funny!!

          • FoxHound R – Xbox One Day One

            SONY’s DRM IS EVEN WORSE! YOUR ALL SHEEP!

          • Umar Kiiroi Senk?

            maaaaa maaaaa

          • DaeMon

            PS4 has no DRM moron 😛

          • FoxHound R – Xbox One Day One

            Yes it does. Jack Trerroton said so yesterday

          • Umar Kiiroi Senk?

            False

          • DaeMon

            do you mean when he said this “Any game that is made for PS4 that is physical goods, whether first-party or third-party, can go into a PS4 and play regardless of where it came from. The first player will play it, no problem, the second player will play it, no problem”

            yes very terrible DRM….

          • Hammersteyn

            You didn’t watch any of the E3 videos did you?

          • Ultimo_Cleric N7

            Do you have a 2 mb line from Telkom? if so, thats great, XboOne will be perfect for you and other Fox, but for most gamers in SA, they cant afford it. I personally am playing of my 8ta Wireless on my PC, which works fine except for some bad lag during high traffic hours.

            I will not be able to use the new Xbox. Does that make me an entitled whiner?

            NO IT DOES NOT.

            I dont give a rat’s ass about the DRM issues for Microsoft OR Sony anymore. Im so used to it by now being a PC gamer anyway. What DOES bother me is that EVEN WITH UPGRADING MY LINE, I CANT EVEN USE THE EFFING [email protected]%!!! The reason I like Sony is that they thought about everybody in theor CONSOLE, unlike Microsoft. Oh and btw, once I have bought a game, its mine. I carry over all rights to do with that copy AS I WISH. Microsoft imposing draconic laws on what I do with the copy I HAVE BOUGHT is pathetic. Sorry to whine, but I just what to stand up to the rights I have as a consumer….

            Your arrogance is astounding. Really. Just because you have enough cash that you can pay for all your Xbox stuff, now we are all sheep. Im SOOOO sorry that I dont have your wealth and that makes me inferior….I really couldnt care less if you like your XBox1. Enjoy it, it looks like a great system. BUT DONT LOOK DOWN ON ME FOR LIKING ANOTHER CONSOLE BECAUSE ITS ALL I CAN AFFORD.
            Ass…..

          • Ultimo_Cleric N7

            Sorry @FoxHoundR:disqus , I still understand your point of view. This is for @FoxOneZA:disqus. You sir are getting on my nerves. And that usually doesnt happen to me at all. Well done.

          • Aussious

            Remix!

          • Grammar Nazi

            *You’re

          • FoxHound R – Xbox One Day One

            No you’re a Grammar NAzi

    • Umar Kiiroi Senk?

      DRM in the hands of publishes has happened this gen as well. EA and UBI has done it many times already, it’s the same with the ps4, and is not the same as the console based DRM that Xbox One enforces
      Since when has gaming become a first world hobby?? Everyone should be allowed to game…you speak as if gamers are becoming over entitled brats … Some times we can’t afford new games and that’s why we go to second hand gaming………

    • Martin du preez

      Yeah cheap ass gamers because god forbid people want value for their money.

      • FoxOneZA – X-Therminator

        Vote with your wallet man!!!

      • FoxHound R – Xbox One Day One

        STOP OBJECTIFYING HIM LIKE A STEREOTYPICAL GAMER!!! #xboxoneDayone

        • Spathi

          Yeah! the backup for FoxOneZA has arrived! Let the circle jerk commence!

    • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

      Cheap ass? Nice way to insult those who can’t afford constant, high speed internet with a large enough data package to support this.

      Steam is a choice. You can still buy games anywhere else for PC without needing steam. Remember that Steam is a conveniance and those who can have internet can use steam to its full potential. But the biggest defining differance is that it is a choice and still has an offline mode. You don’t need to ever have steam online except to authenticate a game every now and then or ,if you are lucky and can afford high speed, unlimited bandwidth, the occasional download.

      Choice is the main thing here. The Xbox offers none. You HAVE to connect every 24hours.

      At least with Steam you can authenticate at a friends house, put it in offline mode and not worry again until you want a game on Steam again.

      Choice is king in the industry and MS have missed that target by miles.

      • Martin du preez

        Yeah if you don’t check in with mommy every 24hrs you are grounded from playing Xbauwks Juan! Lmao

      • FoxOneZA – X-Therminator

        I bought Deus Ex: HR from Musica and that required a Steam activation. BF3 and MOH: W requires origin activations. Yes, an always-uncapped internet connection will set you back a substantial amount but then PS fanbots will sing the praises of the PSN+ and then a high data cap and internet connection will magically appear.

        • Hammersteyn

          I downloaded Deus Ex: HR for free from PS+ requiring no activation. Is your mind blown yet?

          • Jonah Cash

            Hahaha!! Well played man!!

          • FoxOneZA – X-Therminator

            I paid R60 for Deus EX: HR and I have a 1mb internet connection from OpenWeb that costs R99. Not so mindblown unfortunately. Read my first rant and I have likely stated that gamers should vote with their wallet.

          • Ultimo_Cleric N7

            Well minimum requirements for the X1 is a 1.5 line pal. Upgrade time for you.

          • CaptainNemo42

            And don’t forget. PSN+ is once again… A choice.

          • Hammersteyn

            A very good choice 🙂

          • Skyblue

            I am a PS+ member as well and here’s the reality of what you’ve got:

            a) it’s not free, it’s paid for through your membership fee.
            b) it’s not your’s, you may play it for however long PS+ see’s fit.
            c) you may not loan it to friends or ever sell it.
            d) in order to benefit from PS+ you need a decent internet connection as you had to download it. You have a fairly decent connection.
            e) you got a digital copy online which means it was already activated

            What you effectively have is an online rental. This is what PS+ is. I accept that and so do you and I am in no way knocking it. However, we need to bear in mind that we never purchased these games and should you not pay a subscription you will lose your library built up through PS+.

          • Hammersteyn

            You are obviously right in all your statements. But let’s look at your points.

            a) The amount of games I have downloaded far outweighs the R480 I paid last year September
            b) PS+ is moving over to PS4 so it will still be mine a while longer 🙂
            c) True, no arguing there.
            d) I do. It’s really is a pain setting it up but I promise you it’s worth it. I never mentioned this but I need a connection for work as well.
            e) True again.

            Like Sony said the library migrates to PS4. The library will eventually fall away. But at least the library is still safe for the foreseeable future. Until PS5 comes out.

            The no.1 reason I signed up was to store my saved games online. I lost a lot of my saved games and I really don’t want that to happen again.

            The no. 2 reason was all the games you can download every month that’s included in the subscription. I never bought Cathrine and never played ICO.

            But I am now and it’s thanks to Sony with this subscription model that they launched just to say thanks to us for paying R500 a year.

        • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

          You are generalising and that is wrong. There are those that will want a console that is offline and will not care about the PSN. All they want is to play their games. These guys and girls are excluded by microsoft. Put away the fanboism and fanbot ideas here and think of gaming and gamers in general. Stop herding everyone in either a MS fanboy or PS fanboy fence and realise there are gamers, people who just want to enjoy a hobby regardless of platform, who are being kicked in the nuts by what microsoft has done because while they may not mind the platform they do mind the games and now there is going to be a crap ton of gamers who want to play some of the XBox eclusives but cannot because MS has decided they are not good enough.

          Move away from the elitist train of thought and realise there are normal people out there who aren’t fanboys!

          I play PC and will most likely never buy a console and even I can see MS is screwing most of the gaming world

          • FoxOneZA – X-Therminator

            Like I said, gamers should vote with their wallet. We’ve seen MS renege on Windows 8 and GFWL. I have 3 consoles and I have enough exclusives to get through until the first price drop. There was a good article on Kotaku that what gamers are raving about right now as the future of gaming, is actually the current, what we already have but just on different platforms.

          • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

            And I agree with what you are saying. Gamers should vote with their wallets.

            The point I am trying to get across (and debate) is that MS have pretty much made a console with gaming as a secondary in mind or only for the elite.

            This is a dangerous trend and when someone as big as MS does this you can be sure that others will follow suit.

            Just look at all the always online single player games being released as of late. It’s a trend that is hurting the industry. This isn’t about which console is better but rather what choices like this could inevitably lead to. They are adding fuel to a fire I would rather not have burning at all because it’s my hobby on the line.

          • Skyblue

            M$ have already stated that there are huge upgrades underway in order to deal with the proposed new consoles online requirement. They have money and knowhow to get it right… eventually.

            As a PC gamer primarily it is now customary for the games I play to have internet connectivity and so do my consoles.

            I think the big push from M$ which everyone is forgetting about is that they want to get their users online to benefit from Cloud processing. That feature alone is years ahead of the current gen and I feel they are attempting to “future-proof” their console. I’m not saying it’s right or wrong but they dragged us into the future with LIVE! kicking and screaming and look at it now.

            Their DRM stance is draconian but almost every 3rd party multiplayer game does the same and won’t let you loan it out. I used to despise Steam with all my being and now I have a catalogue of over 100 titles on it.

            I’m with Sony on launch but I do think that M$ will have their market albeit smaller than they’re anticipating.

          • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

            M$ will have their market yes and as you said it’s small.

            But wouldn’t a wiser choice have been to make the online features optional? That way the future proof it, it’s years in advance AND the people who can’t use the advanced features then still get to use the device? It would have been win-win. Larger market potential, more sales and eventually they could cut over to perma online when the time is right?

            Yes they are years ahead in their ideas but that exactly is the problem. They are forcing ideas that are only 100% viable years ahead of time on to the current existing time which cannot fully support it (Did that just make sense? The last sentence looks wrong to me somehow)

          • Skyblue

            It is but get the point you’re trying to make. I think M$ are at a point where their arrogance is perhaps outweighing common sense.

          • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

            I just hope they realise this and make a plan. As much as I hate saying this but both Sony and MS need to stay current and valid. A monopoly in the market would be devastating for the industry.

          • Miezaan

            This is exactly the crowd that MS is ignoring, the gamer that just wants to play whether online or not. Well said

    • FoxHound R – Xbox One Day One

      Ignore the PSfail sheep!

      • Hammersteyn

        And like a STD he returns to plague us with his trolling.

      • Jonah Cash

        Buddy!!! where have you been???? Yesterday must have hurt like hell???? Good to see that you have come back from being in the foetal position to where you can type again!!!

        • Rinceyouropinion

          I think he was just waiting for his arsehole to close. No feeding of trolls!

      • Martin du preez

        Holy f*ck, you are stupid. I can actually feel my brain cells committing hari-kiri when I read your posts.

        • Skyblue

          Ah but you read them, he wins…
          And your post is funny btw!

    • Hammersteyn

      Sad to see you not getting a console at launch.

      I will buy a PS4.
      I will port my PS+ library over.
      I will download Drive Club for free when I sign in to my PS4 account for the first time
      I will borrow games from friends and sell my second hand games to whoever because it’s my property and when my internet dies I will still be able to play my games. The difference between the two companies are as clear as day. One listened to gamers the other did not.

      • Spathi

        FUCKING WIN!!!

    • clarsen71

      Finally a rational thought. Unfortunately I had to wade through a lot of BS to get to it. Thank you!

      • Umar Kiiroi Senk?

        Yes …. Calling gamers that buy second hand games cheap ass, and saying gaming is a first world hooby…..yeeees…rational…….raaaaational

      • Hammersteyn

        So By @FoxOneZA:disqus reasoning XBOX 360 owners where cheap skates because the PS3 was more expensive?

  • OVG

    The last time the internet was in such an uproar was when Nintendo revealed the name Wii for their next console. Lots and lots of anger by the hardcore Nintendo fans including me who was still waiting 4 years for ZELDA TP to be released on the Gamecube. Nintendo pulled the middle finger on us and copied APPLE by capturing the casual market with brand ID. $599 for an iiPhone that had no 3g or movie playing. Wii was R3999 and it was nothing more than a Gamecube in a white shell. Clever buggers.

    I will tell you all now, the ONE is going to be a massive hit like the Wii… IN AMERICA!!!

    The rest of the world will have to go with the SONY as they always have. Microsoft know this and they are fine with the American demographic.

    Good luck Microsoft, it was great. I am sure that 5 years from now like DLC, Redeem codes and Horse armor, your dictatorship work model would have already been planted into the indoctrination of modern videogaming. BOIL THE FROG SLOWLY. But after E3 you clearly just skipped that part and went full throttle. CLEVER because humans forget very quickly.

    Their is no more console war. East is East and West is West.

    • FoxOneZA – X-Therminator

      I heard some gamers from the West Coast of USA say that they are still on dial-up. This DRM thing could swing both ways for MS.

      • OVG

        Just the maths for XBOX LIVE shows that they are willing to ditch 33million of their 360 customers who are not on LIVE. Out of the 44million on LIVE I would say 40million are American. That is all they need. The rest can go to SONY.

        • Rinceyouropinion

          Dont feed he troll with logic dude. Waste of time. A statement like his that is so logically flawed does not warrent reply.

          • OVG

            Fooooooood

  • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

    So in other words…. “If you are too poor to have internet then you should stick with old technology and suffer”

    Poor can be replaced with unfortunate to be without internet for whatever reason.

    Very poor PR guys. You’re supposed to be selling your product, not telling people to stay with your old tech they already have.

    • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

      Yeah, belittling your consumer base is always a great start… :/ I honestly don’t know what they’re thinking. It’s like Microsoft is anxious to bail out of the gaming race, and instead of bowing out gracefully, they want to drag the industry into the muck with them,

      • FoxOneZA – X-Therminator

        The same PR BS got PS fanboys to buy the PS3 😛

        • Martin du preez

          At least they didn’t stop making games for the PS3 back in 2009!

        • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

          Also look at the facts that Microsoft took the lead in that generation because they were more “gamercentric” so to speak.

          I guess what has everyone confused is why Microsoft are moving away from it and so fast too.

          • FoxOneZA – X-Therminator

            The Xbox had the biggest launch line up with the largest variety and the console was affordable. Right now, both the Xbox One and PS4 don’t have launch libraries that huge. MS are still searching for their next hero and Sony, more of the same.

            This generation has played out too long. The Xbox 360 should be taken off the market. No price cuts from either company this E3. Console gamers are getting milked.

          • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

            Unfortunately that is true. Gamers are being milked. Sad times for anyone who is a gamer

        • Skyblue

          That’s gonna hit a nerve and it is true to a large degree. Sony were very arrogant going into the PS3 and they got their wake-up call by losing half the world’s market share.
          M$ prob need the same.

      • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

        Yeah, I just don’t understand it.

    • Trevor Davies

      I think their PR strategy has been to market with their personalities instead of the product. Unfortunately the main feature of their personalities is that they’re dicks.

    • Double-O-Six and a half

      It’s all well and good telling people who, for whatever reason, (insert: expensive internet, poor connectivity, lack of connectivity, capped bandwidth, work on an oil rig, live in a cave, etc. etc.) don’t or can’t have decent internet connections to stick with what you have currently, but that only works as long as the device is supported, provided with new games / content, etc. I really don’t see anybody continuing to support or develop for the 360 beyond a 2 to 3 year window at most… so basically Don you’re telling us that MS’ll screw us over for another year or two to get as much as you can out of us and then you’ll drop us like a hot potato… and you wonder why there’s an uproar and Sony’s kicking your butt…!

      • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

        Exactly what I was getting at!

  • CALeGrange

    If you have money for a R6000 console, you have money for a bit of internet.full stop.

    • Lardus

      That depends on whether or not your home is in good coverage area or has Telkom connectivity. In my case I have the money but no proper connection 🙁 Telkom refuse to put in a line and I have spotty coverage at the best of times 🙁

      • CALeGrange

        R69 a month for 1 gig internet at Vodacom.

        • FoxOneZA – X-Therminator

          Stop talking sense m’kay

        • Martin du preez

          30 days minimum for Telkom to install a new line after cable theft/or when you move. But hey,Move to another city or just #dealwithit

          • Lardus

            Until they refuse to replace the cable after 64 attempts! LoL. Looking to buy a house in the 40Meg area soon though

        • Lardus

          I repeat: “I have spotty coverage at the best of times”. That includes iBurst, Vodacom, H8ta, MTN, CellC. So R69 does not help at all for gaming purposes. I used to pay 1K for Telkom until my lines got stolen.

          • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

            Yeah my cousin’s lines got stolen as well. It took Telkom close to a year to replace them.

          • Lardus

            Been without for 3.5 years. Brother in law has been without for 6 years. Damn cable thieves

          • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

            Bloody hell…

          • CALeGrange

            thats pretty crappy! i think you have bigger problems than the console war…
            that beign said 2Mbps Wimax connection from Neotel, its aboutR1936 a month, but chances of you having problems is about zero* …..
            * – dont quote me on that.

          • CALeGrange

            and R1500 installation. my friend staying in a telecoms dead zone, got this puppy, paying through his backside, but runs like a dream apparently.

          • Martin du preez

            Telkom didn’t even replace our lines after the last cable theft. They just rolled in one day and took all their poles out of the ground. I could have sworn one guy mumbled “deal with it’ O_o

          • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

            Hahaha. You made me laugh. I can so see Telkom doing that

        • OVG

          You need a 1.5 to make it work. 2 is a safe bet. But this is Africa so fuck that.

    • Trevor Davies

      There’s more to it than just money, so it’s not so much a full stop as it is a comma.

      • CALeGrange

        haha…true dat…but, its difficult to get lost in this crap throwing contest of the ps4 and xbox debate, iit is easier to compartmentalise it and take on one thing at a time.

    • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

      Again, so is MS saying gaming should only be for the elite? And then out of the elite only those who live in areas with good coverage?

  • JayDiCee

    And so Microsoft’s watch is ended…
    By its own tongue

    • OVG

      ONE job required.

    • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

      Sony bomaye!! Sony BOMAYE!!

  • Thats_how_I_Troll

    I was wondering why two waves off machines for the xbox one??? Maybe the second wave could be an offline machine, cause it is aimed at the lesser markets… Maybe MS is pulling a stunt on Sony by guiding them one way with their statements and on the final product(s) do something different(ly)…. If this is the case, it might be a case of high risk high reward….Something just does not add up totally…

    • CaptainNemo42

      Problem with that is that you already pissed off a lot of loyal supporters who decided to go with the competition. Remember, this is an expensive machine, and very very few people will be able to afford two. Maybe buy a second one later on, but not in the initial stages.

      • Thats_how_I_Troll

        Yes, but hence the lesser markets are only getting machines on the second wave… Makes me think that they might have taken the internet connectivity problem that most of those countries on that list does not have A grade internet connections… Hence the second wave of machine (Which we will see as a first wave) might address that problem and they (we) are only getting the machine next year… Might be a that they dont want the 1st world countries to know about this machine just yet as it might negatively impact the sales on the 1st wave of machines (that will require mandatory connections)…. Don’t know just got this gut feeling ….

        • CaptainNemo42

          Yeah, I see your point. But you might be reading more into this than there is. We often get hardware a while after the rest of the world, simply because nobody gives a shit about us. Getting it 6 – 7 months after the rest of the world is a bummer, but it’s not really that funny.

          Also. I still strongly believe the Xbox One is made mainly for the US.

          • Thats_how_I_Troll

            I might be or could it be that MS is steering Sony to go one route then on the final product they might do something different that we are not yet seeing… I just got a strange feeling that they might be practicing some new marketing strategy… But like you said, I might just be reading more into this than there actually is…

  • Macethy

    Well except that (according to Kalahari) the Xbone is going to cost roughly R7000! So that global brand building might take a while…

  • That Tall Twit

    🙂

  • JayDiCee

    Anybody else notice that the PS4 looks like 2 PS2 slimline consoles stacked upon each other???
    Subliminal marketing scheme?
    We all remember how the PS2 dominated the gaming scene right…
    And now they’ve put 2 PS2s on each other and said everything that gamers and tech junkies and everybody else wanted to hear…

    • Hammersteyn

      I did and I love the new look.

  • Lardus

    I will say this – my colleague uses the type of functionality the Xbox One is all about. His Xbox is a media centre and gaming centre. I think he actually has more than one in his home! So for him, with his nice internet connection…well he is looking forward to this a lot.

  • Darren Peach

    Silly billy’s.

  • Happy Hamster

    Well i think after Sony’s E3 presentation , Xbox are currently

    • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

      … searching for their man beans!

      • Happy Hamster

        Or Balls to the wall

        • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

          A precarious state to be in… cold walls… shudder!

          • Hammersteyn

            Cold hands around the gentle bits is also none to pleasant.

    • Hammersteyn

      Between a open slap and a hard place?

      • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

        ho ho ho!

    • Trevor Davies

      realising something is not quite right.

  • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

    The Two Foxes are trolling up a storm! I feel like I should get some bottle cap medals ready and hand out some awards.

    • FoxHound R – Xbox One Day One

      that’s lame! #xboxOneDayOne

    • HvR

      Jis keeping track which Fox is routing for which platform with all the replies being convinced that you are one or both of them or which maybe you are OVG and Erwin as well or just have a split personality.

      ITS HELL IN MY MIND I TELL YOU!!!!

      • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

        Deep breaths, old man. I am you, and you are me.

      • Thats_how_I_Troll

        Split is not cutting it… maybe multiple?

  • Happy Hamster

    hahahahaha

  • Tbone187

    I would say MS have adopted a more Apple like mentality with all these policies enforcing a closed ecosystem…

    • DaeMon

      YES glad im not the only one who noticed that…

  • That Tall Twit

    BTW… header is a win!

    • Hammersteyn

      Like a Sir.

  • Bruno

    Nao sei porque falam tao mal do xbox

  • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

    And, let’s hear it from Don Mattrick!

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