There has been a lot of talk about which console is more powerful and better for developers to make games with. Microsoft has previously stated their CPU is 10% faster than the PlayStation 4 CPU but that looks like it has now been debunked.
A poster on Neogaf called Matt, who is a well known and respected developer on both next gen consoles, had the following to say during a discussion about the merits of each consoles CPU
Yes, you can get more out of the PS4’s CPU than you can the Xbox’s.
This sparked off a conversation frenzy on Neogaf but in the end no one could step up with any proof to the latter and the universal agreement is that the PlayStation 4 has the more powerful CPU and that since both have been released it has become apparent that the Xbox One is struggling to keep up with the power of the PlayStation 4.
This is really bad news for Microsoft and along with the fact that they made the bad decision to not release into more regions at launch spells a future of pain and frustration for Xbox fans and Microsoft alike.
I have to admit that I have cancelled my order to get a UK version right now due to financial issues and the fact that the early news coming out of the press isn’t looking too kindly on the Xbox One.
The PlayStation 4 appears to be the console for the gamers this time around and I’m looking forward to getting my hands on one of those as soon as the first great games appear for it.
[Update] A developer from Ubisoft Montreal has tweeted us to say this statement is entirely untrue. I’m waiting for more information but for now keep remembering this is all the information we have at the moment.@lazygamers That article is completely untrue. You really shouldn't print unproven rumors, oh wait games journalism 😛
— Bobby Anguelov (@BobbyAnguelov) December 23, 2013
Last Updated: December 23, 2013
Rudi
December 23, 2013 at 13:53
But the xbox is more expensive, so I guess it’s got that going for it… still want one though 🙂
Hammersteyn
December 23, 2013 at 14:09
It’s been established that if the X1 sold without the new Kinext it would cost the same as the PS4 but MS won’t do that. Hope it gets released soon. There’s a lot of people waiting.
Falcon D. Stormvoice
December 23, 2013 at 18:36
The problem is, the entire thing is based around the Kinect. That’s the hook. Releasing an Xbox One without the Kinect would be like releasing a Chevy Volt that has no battery — It’s still got a combustion engine, but lol no.
Jafo98
December 23, 2013 at 22:17
You dumb twat, you must be British!! I don’t even have my Kinect hooked up to my XboxOne. You don’t need Kinect. I like my xbox One better than my Playstaion 4. I can’t get enough of Ryse and Dead Rising.
Falcon D. Stormvoice
December 24, 2013 at 00:12
“I can’t get enough of Ryse and Dead Rising.”
If you can’t get enough of those, try The Figher Within. You’ll llllllove it. ;p
Without the Kinect, the Xbox One is a significantly weaker PS4 with more shooting and sports games. If Kinect isn’t necessary, can you tell me where you bought an Xbox One without one included?
Hammersteyn
December 24, 2013 at 07:32
The Figther Within is so bad. MS should be ashamed they released it as a launch title for the new Kinect.
Schalk Engelbrecht
December 24, 2013 at 09:07
Angry Joe did a video where he plays Fighter Within. Title should’ve been “The F-bomb within”
Hammersteyn
December 24, 2013 at 09:19
LOL I saw. Love that guy.
just_got_wicked
December 24, 2013 at 02:12
How to spot a fanboy
Ali Blahblah
December 24, 2013 at 14:56
So you paid $100 more for a peripheral you don’t use and brag about it?
James
December 26, 2013 at 05:28
“You dumb twat, you must be British”
What on earth?
Hammersteyn
December 24, 2013 at 07:31
Good point.
Ali Blahblah
December 24, 2013 at 15:00
The entire liberal phliosophy is about intertentions and not results. If that mindset was judged on it’s results it would have died a long time ago.
Surging
December 23, 2013 at 19:59
the kinect in factory to make is about 300 – 400 dollars.. thats not including the system, so where is this magic subsidiary coming from that makes xbox so cheap to buy with kinect, well i tell you where…. the U.S. government, Microsoft with partnership of NSA produced the kinect to SPY ON PEOPLE… The only catch was if Microsoft wanted this new kinect to try and impress everyone and make it cheap enough that people could afford they had to sign a Contract with the NSA to cover some of the costs of the kinect…. THAT IS ALSO WHY YOU DO NOT SEE M$ SELLING XBOX WITHOUT A KINECT BECAUSE IT WOULD BREACH THE CONTRACT…. especially when M$ is pushing to start selling xboxs in CHINA.. with xbox one NSA will have eyes everywhere in the world…
haloguy
December 23, 2013 at 21:23
I didnt want one because of the kinect but I got one on the count of everywhere was sold out of ps4s and bestbuy had some ones in stock.I never plugged the kinect in and still enjoying the one without it, in fact the kinnect is still in the box in a closet where it will stay. I can still do everything except play kinect games on it which suck anyway. Im even posting this message from it. P.s. bf4 is awesome on this thing.
Jafo98
December 23, 2013 at 22:18
You’re full of crap. Go snort your coke and listen to some more Alex Jones, you dolt.
Surging
December 23, 2013 at 23:53
Then tell me, how the greediest corporation on earth is selling the 400 dollar kinect for 100, you dont think they would actually wanna lose 300 on every system sold …
truth
December 24, 2013 at 06:34
i prefer sony, but yes, this guy is full of crap. he’s prolly more into the david icke than he is the alex jones
Hammersteyn
December 24, 2013 at 07:30
Tin foil hats now! America needs us.
Mrteapot
December 24, 2013 at 20:13
*grabs his tin foil cap and munchs on popcorn*
Interesting
Melasco
December 23, 2013 at 13:54
Even if the Xbone CPU was twice as powerful, it wouldn’t mean anything since one compute unit on the GPU is many multitudes more powerful than either CPU, and can be used for non graphics related processing… The PS4 has 18 of those compared to the 12 on the Xbone, so this is like a person with a Ferrari comparing his doormats with a person driving a Golf GTi…
Personally, I fail to see any point in comparing the CPU’s if they are so similar, especially with the clear difference in GPU power.
Let the games do the talking 🙂
Rags
December 23, 2013 at 16:43
Better to run MS Access on the PS4. 😛
PC>Console
December 25, 2013 at 23:00
There is no individual CPU and GPU in these consoles. Only an APU which is by definition : http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/what-is-the-difference-between-an-apu-a-cpu-and-a-gpu-makeuseof-explains/
“As the supplier of the APUs in both the Xbox One and PS4, AMD is in a
very interesting place.Both of these upcoming consoles are based on
their GCN technology, and as such AMD owns a great deal of
responsibility in developing both of these consoles”.”
Read more here :
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7371/understanding-amds-mantle-a-lowlevel-graphics-api-for-gcn
And here is more info for you : http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/171375-reverse-engineered-ps4-apu-reveals-the-consoles-real-cpu-and-gpu-specs
So in essence, the technology going into the PS4 and the XBONE is all geared at for AMD to dominate the PC GFX market, as they cannot compete with INTEL on CPU’s alone, and will be set to take the “top” spot from Nvidia.
PC>Console
December 25, 2013 at 23:00
There is no individual CPU and GPU in these consoles. Only an APU which is by definition : http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/what-is-the-difference-between-an-apu-a-cpu-and-a-gpu-makeuseof-explains/
“As the supplier of the APUs in both the Xbox One and PS4, AMD is in a
very interesting place.Both of these upcoming consoles are based on
their GCN technology, and as such AMD owns a great deal of
responsibility in developing both of these consoles”.”
Read more here :
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7371/understanding-amds-mantle-a-lowlevel-graphics-api-for-gcn
And here is more info for you : http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/171375-reverse-engineered-ps4-apu-reveals-the-consoles-real-cpu-and-gpu-specs
So in essence, the technology going into the PS4 and the XBONE is all geared at for AMD to dominate the PC GFX market, as they cannot compete with INTEL on CPU’s alone, and will be set to take the “top” spot from Nvidia.
Brian Murphy
December 27, 2013 at 17:44
It all depends on whether the developer community adopts AMD’s Mantle API in order to really take advantage of the GCN architecture. It’s supposedly a low level access API, which is a direct challenge to the DX API which gives much higher level access to the resources (which means inefficient).
It’ll be interesting to see how this works out, and what impact that will have on Nvidia based systems (if any).
Unavengedavo(aka. MadeYouLook)
December 23, 2013 at 14:04
The Xbox One is a home entertainment system and the PS4 is a Gaming console… Nuff said 😛
Hammersteyn
December 23, 2013 at 14:08
Perfect description of both,
Verrayne
December 23, 2013 at 14:29
Luckily for us, software updates can make a gaming console a home entertainment system.
Unfortunately it doesn’t work the other way around so well…
Michael Walsh
December 24, 2013 at 13:49
Haha exactly, media stuff is and will be added to the PS4 via firmware updates. Microsoft cannot update the X1 to miraculously have faster RAM and a better GPU.
Gareth L (That Guy)
December 23, 2013 at 14:43
To play Devil’s advocate, CPU isn’t the be all and end all of a console system.
The problem with the XBOX One is that Microsoft doesn’t have a decent PR and marketing team. They had the same issue with the Surface tablet of theirs. It was an excellent tablet, and it was more than a tablet: it was essentially a laptop disguised as one. It was criticised for being an expensive tablet – some thing that it wasn’t.
I am beginning to feel that the XBOX One is falling into the same trap here: it’s not a gaming console, it just looks like one but is far more than that. It’s a step toward the next generation of home entertainment, disguised as a gaming console.
Michael Walsh
December 24, 2013 at 13:51
Like what the PS3 was, only less powerful than it’s competitors compared to what the PS3 was against it’s competitors.
Admiral Chief in Vegas
December 23, 2013 at 15:27
Hahaha, dat header
Alien Emperor Trevor
December 23, 2013 at 21:10
PS4 is like, do you even lift bro?
Michael Walsh
December 24, 2013 at 13:52
Haha genius!
Maxiviper117
December 23, 2013 at 15:27
The problems with the Xbones power is that people are worried if it would be able to keep up with the PS4 few years down the line when they start reaching the max the consoles can handle. And having less power from the start is not helping the Xbones case, thats what this is all really about.
Umar of The Rebellion
December 23, 2013 at 15:46
Gav’s Photoshop skillz strikes back. The Ghost of Photoshop past
Gavin Mannion
December 23, 2013 at 20:21
and I’m ridiculously proud of this one 🙂
Iman Soup
December 23, 2013 at 15:46
Interesting stuff. Probably buy one in 2017
Brian Murphy
December 23, 2013 at 16:32
Gavin – Don’t you just love how Mr. Anguelov calls into question the veracity and authenticity of your profession, without providing any backup data to validate his assertions? Well, it is Ubisoft, so they are pretty familiar with half-assing it.
BeatzByChrisBrown
December 23, 2013 at 16:46
“Yes, you can get more out of the PS4?s CPU than you can the Xbox’s.” – Matt
Confirmed!
Brian Murphy
December 23, 2013 at 17:02
I realize how it looks, but there are a couple websites like NeoGaf, who have users who consistently and regularly provide inside industry information that’s been very very accurate in the past (and in an industry where NDA’s are the norm, that can be difficult). Under most circumstances I ignore pretty much everything people say, because…you’re all lying bastards anyway (hehe). But, people who stick around long enough to build trust, are generally viewed as valid sources.
This Matt guy, whoever he is, apparently falls under that criteria. What I find most amusing though is Ubisoft Montreal’s half-assed response and half-assed attempt at slamming Gavin’s profession. Apparently what was said is so egregious, that it required an insult to be lobbed back, by someone not even affiliated with Microsoft….but not egregious enough to actually provide proof to the counter.
Falcon D. Stormvoice
December 23, 2013 at 17:07
Ubisoft? The people who just made a significantly better-looking version of Assassin’s Creed for PS4?
Justin Lee Keller
December 24, 2013 at 19:14
I own a ps4 and really enjoy AC4 but significantly better looking than xbone?
iPrimal
December 23, 2013 at 17:20
Doesn’t really matter until these systems get worthwhile games.
bowlingotter
December 23, 2013 at 17:46
I love the tweet @ you. “You shouldn’t post such a thing without factual defense. But I’ll tell you that you’re wrong without factual defense.”
Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)
December 23, 2013 at 17:55
All of a sudden the retort “oh it’s just games journalism… lulz” is starting to annoy me.
As if mainstream journalism is so fucking flawless and objective. That’s at the height of arrogance to just look down on game journalism as if it’s something that someone shat out. At least, sites like lazygamer, egamer, zombiegamer etc. try to be objective (they don’t always get it right, but that’s when the community make the comment section a bloodbath), as opposed to Polytaku and others who would rather just shill for a living.
Brian Murphy
December 23, 2013 at 18:01
Yeah, that’s the funny thing (or sad?). What Ubisoft doesn’t realize (Go figure, Ubisoft out of touch with reality), is the entire journalism industry is questionable at best. Whether it’s games, movies, current events etc… doesn’t matter. It seems like every journalist out there provides less and less data, and more and more personal opinion, which has basically made me question every single thing I hear, from every news source…because it’s really too risky to assume they’re being truthful. It’s especially difficult in the States, where it’s legal for news agencies to lie to their viewers.
Falcon D. Stormvoice
December 27, 2013 at 18:16
http://benswann.com/definitive-proof-that-the-mainstream-media-is-scripted/
Fair enough.
Hammersteyn
December 24, 2013 at 07:29
The least they can do instead of bitching and moaning is to provide a counter argument. But the first option is easier. Almost had you for a round of Killzone but my internet died, will be giving MWEB a courtesy call today.
Jackie
December 23, 2013 at 19:37
Oh you mean the Ubisoft Micro{transactions}soft has in their pocket?…
Surging
December 23, 2013 at 19:50
the xbox cpu was designed around home entertainment which btw is not power intensive, the ps4 cpu was designed with work with GDDR5 memory making it a much much much more agile and powerful processor than xbox… If any of you heard mark cernys speech on the processor and how it works would know that…. lets just say ps4 cpu is a masterpiece of design I really loved the volitile cache marking ability to use cache more efficiently it removes the barrier almost sounding like a supersonic DMA, if I could use PS4 as a home PC I would because the secondary memory controller takes away all latency that the GDDR5 produces from its high Mhz frequency.. 🙂 Enjoy everyone
Rayban99
December 23, 2013 at 21:03
lmao what garbage..you post an article and cite forum posters as sources. And the only credible source says you’re wrong.
Oakley100
December 27, 2013 at 10:54
Ur logic and sense of gratification is what should be labeled garbage, instead of sounding like an egotistical cocker that thinks “its” smart, why dont u dispense some positive feed back so maybe he can better his journalism skills. “This world is filled with bullshit”, your part of the problem
Art Log
December 23, 2013 at 21:09
Microsoft will make you buy a new upgraded X box one in a 3 years when they reach their full potential and the ps4 hasn’t even been fully tapped… Buy a Ps4 even though Microsoft is an american company
DiFiasco
December 23, 2013 at 22:15
Just began playing AC4 on PS4 and I am absolutely content. A great console that is uncomplicated, agile and does what it says on the box – PLAYS GAMES! Tons of power and a very obvious step-up from previous gen. I played straight for 7 hours without so much as a hiccup or blip – and the machine was silent and cool. 5 stars from me!
Jafo98
December 23, 2013 at 22:21
Another,ignorant, British Limey post. We don’t care if you buy an Xbox One. The poster doesn’t back up his claims with proof. Hahaha, sure, we belive you pal.
Darran
December 25, 2013 at 10:43
Nothing like a bit of racism first thing in the morning
Falcon D. Stormvoice
December 27, 2013 at 18:19
Ah yes, the breakfast of champions.
sync90
June 29, 2014 at 05:30
You don’t like English? where are you from?
James
December 24, 2013 at 05:40
If you want something that plays games get the PS4. If you want a multimedia console that plays games get the Xbox One..I got the One.
Palli Singh
February 24, 2014 at 19:59
If you are a gamer who wants to play awesome games buy PS4 and if you are a MS bitch buy a less powerful,more expensive thing sold by a company who is greedy and slaps you while jamming it in your hoo haa ,buy xbone.
Umar of The Rebellion
December 24, 2013 at 07:42
Hey look. Arrogant dev…dumb statements like that hurt journalism and gaming on a whole. Such a smug retort about gaming journalism…
Harvey
December 24, 2013 at 20:27
The XBOX is more expensive because of the camera that comes with it. and i never really matters how much a processor can process. e.g Lets say that 75% of the xboxs processing is used for BF4 or something, and PS4’s is 45% for the same game. you get playable framerates but what community is for you?
chris9465
December 24, 2013 at 22:12
I just want a good gaming console…..am a welder by trade……..whos got the stronger system shouldnt be this diffacult a question to answer…….
Real Journalism Is Dead
December 27, 2013 at 10:32
Seriously tho, i dont want to hear/read your opinions, i dont want to hear/read what you heard/read lol. Dispense knowledge u actually KNOW because I dont care what u believe.
chris9465
December 29, 2013 at 19:22
Yawn
SP Van Zyl
December 27, 2013 at 17:32
Can someone please tell me what the #x24 means??
Brick McHewitt-Puff
February 11, 2014 at 00:49
I love my PS3 and I was going to go PS4 BUT…
The performance difference between the two is (to the eyeballs) insignificant, it really dosn’t make much difference at all. I saw the nasty reflection those Dualshock 4 controllers made on the game-store TV screen and grabbed the Xbox1 without a second thought, ‘Move’ is the worst technology to ever NOT be scrapped. Move sucks and the dual rumble triggers have won me over this gen.
But the choice is yours guys, either box will do the job
sync90
June 29, 2014 at 05:31
You sound really dumb.
Brick McHewitt-Puff
June 30, 2014 at 14:52
You sound like a coconut.