Sony and Microsoft need to ban keyboard and mouse inputs, says Overwatch Director

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Overwatch is having a peculiar issue on console right now, where high level players are suspecting fellow rivals of using keyboard and mouse inputs to be much quicker at the reflex crucial title. It’s a discussion that caught the eye of game director Jeff Kaplan over on the Battle.net forums, where he weighed in on the difficulty with dealing with both Sony and Microsoft on the issue. According to Kaplan, both console makers need to ban support outright – or at least make it far more accessible to even the playing field.

“We have contacted both first-party console manufacturers and expressed our concern about the use of mouse and keyboard and input conversion devices, We have lobbied and will continue to lobby for first-party console manufacturers to either disallow mouse and keyboard and input conversion devices or openly and easily support mouse and keyboard for all players.”

He urged players to join in the conversation and make both Sony and Microsoft aware of the negative impact their in-between support is having for games such as Overwatch, but asked for it to be done in a constructive, respectful manner.

Right now keyboard and mouse support is extremely limited on both consoles. Sony allows the input for browser navigation and other system functions, while Microsoft increases their support in their growing bid to unify both the Xbox One and PC with their Play Anywhere program. The issue lies in devices that allow players to use these inputs in games never designed (or more crucially, balanced) with them in mind, which has serious ramifications for online competitive play.

Both Sony and Microsoft could perhaps look into ways of allowing games to lock out users not using controllers, or give developers a way of seeing what form of input players are using at a given time. This could, in the case of Overwatch, allow Blizzard to seed players into groups based on input alone. But while neither are a reality, it’s an issue that only has dire ramifications for players themselves.

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Last Updated: February 6, 2017

Alessandro Barbosa

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  • Admiral Chief
  • Admiral Chief

    It comes down to choice of input, you can do it on PC as well. But using controller for FPS…you made the wrong choice hehehe

    • Indeed, don’t complain about others weapon of choice just because it’s bigger caliber xD

      *Ok, jokes aside. This might be due to the aim assist also kicking in with KB and mouse that makes for easy head shots.

      • Viking Of Science

        “AIM Assist”? What’s that? Is it like an Aimbot?

        • Hammersteyn

          It’s more like handicap assist 😛

      • Hammersteyn

        Playing competitive against these players when you have to contend with lag as well is horrible.

    • Choice of input, sure. But. Mouse/KB inputs in most games aren’t really supported on consoles as a control scheme. Believe me, if they were default options, I would definitely be using them. To get them working properly it requires a mod tool like a Cronusmax, which also allows scripting of commands. The problem here is when the standard for all users is the Controller and a 1%er comes online with a Mouse/Keyboard they will outplay anyone on a FPS.

      I’m decent with a controller but much better with a mouse/kb. I ran a test with a mate of mine in Destiny who is TERRIBLE at PVP on controller, whereas I can top log most of the time. He got a cronusmax for other reasons, but we booted it up for some PVP and he utterly destroyed me every single time purely because he could react faster and had a greater range of movement and precision. It is literally game breaking.

  • Hammersteyn
    • xD

    • MonsterCheddar

      XD. You are going take flak for that.

    • MonsterCheddar

      Aren’t you a console peasant?

      • Hammersteyn

        I’m both O_o

        • MonsterCheddar

          Ag, I don’t get this rivalry kak anyways. XD.

          • Hammersteyn

            Well it’s entertaining for some to point out the disabilities or flaws that other people need to contend with. Wait, that sounds like a horrible thing to do.

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            It’s horribly entertaining 😀

          • Hammersteyn

            XD XD XD

          • I keep thinking about paralympics when reading this

        • VampyreSquirrel

          “Both”? You haven’t been on Steam in 269 days.

          • And that was probably when we forced him online to accept everyone’s steam invites xD

          • VampyreSquirrel

            Wouldn’t surprise me.

          • MonsterCheddar

            O_o. Is that so?

          • VampyreSquirrel
          • Hammersteyn
          • MonsterCheddar

            @hammersteyn:disqus Welcome to Peasantville. Please take off your shoes as none are allowed. We allow two showers a year. And bow to all these PC highlords who think they are better. No use in arguing with them. The Hut to the left is yours.

          • Hammersteyn

            Cheers!

          • VampyreSquirrel

            The hut next door to yours is occupied by @MonsterCheddar:disqus 😛

          • MonsterCheddar

            Nope, my hut is down Xbox Lane.

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            An Xbox wouldn’t fit on a lane, you need a big road, like the N1.

          • MonsterCheddar

            ROFL

          • Ir0nseraph

            LOL

          • Hammersteyn

            Hiya neighbor!

          • MonsterCheddar

            Also, when they rant on about being better, just smile and nod. Makes them feel special.

          • Hammersteyn
          • MonsterCheddar

            HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

          • BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

          • HvR

            *Press X and wiggle your little stick to open the door

          • Hammersteyn

            Can’t, quite, get, the, crosshair…. there. Opened

          • He gets a hut?

            Privileged b*st*rd

          • Hammersteyn

            Is Steam the be all and end all to PC gaming. GOG > Steam anyways

          • VampyreSquirrel

            Heathen!

            GoG is only good for the old games… GoG Galaxy is terrible (in my opinion)

          • Hammersteyn

            Well, I’m getting older every year 😛

          • *GASP*

      • VampyreSquirrel

        Yes he is

        • Hammersteyn

          Yeah? Well…. you’re a squirrel

    • Captain JJ

      And Trump is the US president. Of course the majority would be voting console.

  • Hammersteyn

    Can’t force people to stop using KB and mouse. Overwatch dug their own hole by allowing them to be used in the first place. They should have disallowed the use and they still can by patching the game if they feel so strong about it but then watch the pitchforks come out. It sucks playing against those players and watching a few kill cams I can confirm it happens but you can’t pass the blame to Sony and MS unfortunately

    • Original Heretic

      If KB & Mouse is used on console, can’t they force that aim assist is off in that case? Not sure if that would even things out 100%, but I reckon it’s a step in right direction.

      I’m just theorizing here, I have yet to play this game.

      • Hammersteyn

        They probably could, but they will need to PR the hell out of whatever they have planned. Can’t allow someone to do something and then just take it away

        • Original Heretic

          It’s not really taking anything away, is it? You’re still using the KB & M, but just without the frilly bit.

          • Hammersteyn

            Sorry, I meant if they take away the KB&Mouse

    • Ir0nseraph

      This is why i prefer co-op over MP, no trolls.

    • PurplePariah

      Um. The problem is detecting that a console user is in fact using a KB/M. There isn’t a way to do that currently. So no, Blizzard didn’t allow it. But there’s nothing they can, themselves, do about it. If it was possible, they would already have banned them, and this article wouldn’t exist.

      • I would guess a console can only “scroll” the screen at a certain speed with an analog. What if they detect a higher than normal speed and block it like that.

        • PurplePariah

          That is a lot of extra behind the scenes code executing – adding extra lag to already strained console resources. Code is also rarely that simple.

      • Hammersteyn

        There should be a way surely? I mean is there no way to differentiate between a KB and a controller?

        • PurplePariah

          Not unless Sony & MS make room for that in their core API.

  • Sageville

    This is the sole reason why I’m not top of the logs!

    Gorramitalltahell!

    • Hammersteyn

      Aren’t you that guy that’s never on the payload?
      *RUNS*

      • Ir0nseraph

        XD

      • Sageville

        Dood, you can get seriously fkked up being close to the payload!

        • Hammersteyn

          XD

  • konfab

    This is a keyphobic act on the part of Blizzard.

    By banning Keyboards, he is letting his bigotry out in the open. No one chooses to prefer keyboards and mice to controllers. It is simply something you are born with.

  • I’ve been in matches in Overwatch and Titanfall 2 where you can blatantly see in the kill cam that the guy is using a Mouse/KB. It’s physically impossible to have that level and range of movement then pin point accuracy on a controller analogue stick. These guys are usually 30+ kills 1-2 deaths and just face-rolling people. There are some people who can work magic with a controller, but you can see the difference between controller and a mouse. It’s night and day.

    It breaks the game for the most part.

    • miaau

      And there is the point “It breaks the game for the most part.”

  • Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha ……
    ……. hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

    …….. hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

    Oh crap I just peed myself a little.

    #Masterrace.

    • Hammersteyn

      LOOOOL!

    • I don’t understand why all the PC guys are having so much fun with this?

      I would love to use a mouse and keyboard on my console, but I like the controller just as much. And because you dont really have a choice in choosing what controller hardware you use on a console, that helps standardize the experience for everyone.

      Then you get a smartass with a Cronusmax/whatever using a mouse and keyboard in a game balanced for controllers like the other 99% of the playerbase are using. It literally ruins the game.

      So, please do all us console peasants a favor and take your platform bigotry somewhere else. This issue clearly doesn’t impact you, so how about a little compassion for those of us who are actually affected?

      • I am laughing because we always get the “shitty console port” comments. For once you get the short end of the stick. And if you have ever seen my posts I usually joke abiout these thing. My main point is and always have been “As long as you play Mass Effect I don’t care what platform you play on”. People are getting way too sensative.

        • Fair enough, and I also play ME so we good there 😉

          My issue is this though: As someone who loves PVP FPS on consoles. I have to stop playing sometimes because I am essentially losing to a hacker/cheater, because that’s essentially what is happening here.

          Shitty console ports are a serious issue, and I do not agree with them at all, especially seeing as I am also a PC gamer, but that’s an issue on the development side. This is actual people/players doing the dirty and playing/using the game other than as intended.

          • We get a ton of jokes our way so the main point is we are having a laugh at console gamers for once. And for the most part it is just joking around. We are by no means biggots as you so elegantly pointed out.

      • Sageville

        Cause the Master Race are dicks.

        I mean even the name “Master Race”…

        Straight outta Trumptown

        • Not all of them though man. There are exceptions. But still… lol

  • ReverendFunk
  • Skittle

    Thanks for letting me know I can use my keyboard and mouse *thumbs up*

  • Lu

    This is like racing cars, then whining because the guy that beat you can afford a bigger engine. The kb/m adapter is a peripheral, not a hack. Everyone can get one (There was a pretty good one for the same price as an Xbone elite controller last year). If you can’t afford one don’t cry because someone else can.

  • Sageville

    Blizzard need to keep the playing fields level on the consoles. Remove KB/mouse support and you’re golden.

    It’s all on Blizzard.

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