Tell us: What did you think of the Ghost Recon Wildlands beta?

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This weekend saw Ghost Recon Wildlands closed beta kick off. We’ve waxed lyrical about the game before, having had the opportunity to go hands on with the content in the beta before it went live. We managed to play it as both a single player game, and as a co-operative multiplayer shooter.

Its Bolivian settings is expansive and one of the largest open worlds we’ve seen. The beta is home to just one of the 21 regions you’ll be able to explore in Wildlands, probably with 3 friends – because that’s the best way to play the game.

“Playing with humans offers up several advantages over AI companions I feel. If you’re jamming with friends for example, you can actually, you know, talk to each other, rather than having to make use of a command wheel.

This makes tactical play a lot easier. Fancy having one or two people in a sniping position, while the rest of you move in for some close quarters combat? How about two of you assault the front, while the other two flank? That sort of thing is only really possible without AI teammates.”

I had quite a bit of fun with the closed beta – but I worry that there’s just too much to see and do; that the open world is prone to fatigue. Will that be offset by the emergent gameplay that can be had when you squad up with the 3 friends for some tactical co-operative play? And if so, can the game’s systems sustain that sort of play for hours?

I certainly hope so. But, with the beta very nearly done and dusted, you tell us. Has the closed beta convinced you that Wildlands will be a blast with friends? Do you think its engaging enough to play through on your own?

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Last Updated: February 6, 2017

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Geoffrey Tim

I'm old, grumpy and more than just a little cynical. One day, I found myself in possession of a NES, and a copy of Super Mario Bros 3. It was that game that made me realise that games were more than just toys to idly while away time - they were capable of being masterpieces. I'm here now, looking for more of those masterpieces.

  • Pixelated Gambit

    I really enjoyed the beta.It certainly changed my perception of the game,as it wasn’t on my radar until now.I hope the final game offers a lot of mission variety to keep things fresh.I agree that playing with friends offers a greater tactical advantage for most situations.

  • VampyreSquirrel

    Time for Otto to get #triggered

    • MonsterCheddar

      ANNNNNNNNNNDDDDDDDD Go Otto @ottokie:disqus

    • MonsterCheddar

      Unleash the Otto

    • The second I opened this article I knew you guys were gonna be waiting for me xD

  • MonsterCheddar

    All the Moangatte I spoke to didn’t have great things to say. Didn’t play myself. Game already ordered, so I couldn’t give a shit. I like to make up my own mind.

    Plus, I have low standards damn it.

    • Hammersteyn

      It is visually stunning though, just don’t play it alone

      • Ir0nseraph

        I played solo for a while, it isn’t totally horrible, what I like about the game is you can jump in at any time and still play, no grinding needed to buff up to join your friends.

        • Hammersteyn

          I got bored though and this is the Beta, it feels like this should have been a MP only game

          • Ir0nseraph

            The Game is far from perfect, but I like it way more then the Division, and is way more fun with friends.

  • VampyreSquirrel

    I enjoyed it… though I did find the following:

    1. The quests given were a bit repetitive.
    2. There doesn’t seem to be any real issue with going in guns blazing.
    3. Driving… Though it’s fun, the fact that ANY vehicle works great offroad, and just bounces off a rock breaks immersion.
    4. The Helicopter controls are CRAP.
    5. Otto was hating on it constantly while we played (though it was funny)
    6. Finished Beta content in about 5 hours (I think) on Friday night.

    I won’t be getting on release… will wait for reviews and issues, and then make my final decision on getting it.

    • MonsterCheddar

      I see this game being released with a 15gig patch. Mark my words.

    • It feels strange playing a console game on PC, OK xD

    • Original Heretic

      In reference to your point 1:
      Isn’t that pretty much the case with just about every open world title out there?

      • VampyreSquirrel

        Not always. I feel the missions in The Division were done better… even in the beta.

        • *must…resist…COMMENTING!*

        • Original Heretic

          Never jammed that, I have no reference as comparison.

      • True, but even after finishing everything in the beta, Vamps and I went looking for anything to do. And there was nothing. If you complete the game and don’t want to pay for a season pass, that’s it, game over.

        • Original Heretic

          Well it is just a beta, so limited content is to be expected.

    • That 144p rain…that 144p rain that did not even hit the ground or anything. It felt like it was just put there by someone who is trying out texture generating for fun at home…after grade school!

      • VampyreSquirrel

        You went on about that for about 15 minutes.

        • I went on about that for as long as the stupid rain was dropping

    • VampyreSquirrel

      Oh wait!

      7. The convoy quests were irritating because they left the area… chase em and you died.
      8. I phased into the ground when going prone… about 5 times.

      • 9. Bikes are godlike vehicles unhindered by terrain

        • VampyreSquirrel

          Except when you’re bouncing backwards 10m when you hit a rock… and then carrying on like nothing happened.

          • We were never on the road for more than 1 min

        • HairyEwok

          10. Llamas are awesome!

      • MonsterCheddar

        @VampyreSquirrel:disqus Dude, they are called missions. This is not the Wurmpies en Perdjies shit that you get in Skyrim or The Witcher. 😛

    • 10. 60 FOOKING euro for the base game!

      • Captain JJ

        Yea. No. Ubi can keep it.

        • PurplePariah

          Ubi should change their name to Plzbi

    • Captain JJ

      The fact that going in guns blazing makes little difference is the biggest issue I would have.

      • MonsterCheddar

        So combat was over easy?

        • Captain JJ

          They can’t call it a ghost recon game if a tactical approach makes little to no difference.

          • MonsterCheddar

            I need combat that is impossible if the correct tactical approach is not taken.

          • Captain JJ

            I agree.

          • Captain JJ

            Otherwise you might as well play Battlefield or Call of Duty

          • MonsterCheddar

            Exactly.

          • Then I have some bad news for you. There is no tactical cover mechanic in this game. You can run full speed and just pistol everyone in the head.

          • Captain JJ

            Well then. Guess what I’m not getting.

          • I also tested how good the AI can aim. Run straight at them and you will die, strafe left and right and they can’t touch you as long as you keep relative distance because for some reason bullet travel is super slow.

          • Captain JJ

            Urgh. I had such high hopes for this game. Tom Clancy’s legacy is being dragged through the mud by Ubisoft

          • Hammersteyn

            I, um, never mind

          • You did the nasty didn’t you…

          • Hammersteyn

            Yup

          • Hammersteyn

            True

          • PurplePariah

            Yeah. Previous entries, if you didn’t both plan and adapt to situations, that’s it. Restart. No questions asked. The first game in particular had that expansion (before they called it DLC) that was unforgiving as fuck. And we played it almost as much as we did Counter Strike.

          • Hammersteyn

            It’s more like connect four than ghost recon.

          • Captain JJ

            So it’s the typical Ubi approach…use a name to generate sales, but gut everything that the original was.

        • Hammersteyn

          We spent a couple of minutes lining up shots, then one gut would run in and kill half the bad guys with ease

      • I was the one to test that out right out the gates in a team of 4 xD

        • Captain JJ

          lol

      • Beta was set to easy difficulty and could not be changed. I will be playing medium to hard for that solid snake experience.

        • PikeyZA

          There was an option in the menu to change the difficulty to Elite or Ghost difficulties? Did that have no effect?

          • Unfortunately not. They did say it was a bug but it was not on the list to get priority patched. We will see when the open beta arrive shortly.

          • PikeyZA

            lol well that explains why it seemed really easy on Elite setting then! XD

  • I had some screenshots taken to prove some points over the weekend because I knew this article was going to come and I forgot it all at home xD

    • VampyreSquirrel

      No screenshots, no belief.

      • There are a couple I took of you…under a tractor.

    • MonsterCheddar

      What about the pink highlighted notes you took.

  • Pros:
    Great for CO-OP. Its has a lot of potential as a group game, like division, but better IMHO.
    Shooting stuff actually kills it. This is a MASSIVE plus (see what I did there?? LOL AMSOFUNNEH). Works both ways, you are just as squishy as your prey, so cover will be crucial.
    Massive map with lost of points of interest around and engagement options for whatever mission we do.
    It has the same sort of dick around potential as GTA Online with the added bonus of being a proper cover based, tactical shooter.
    Cons:
    The driving is shit. GTA has better driving physics. That pissed me off ridiculously.
    The Flying is even shittier. It feels like there are autosystems built into the controls of the Helicopter to prevent the user from crashing it. Like a safety. This actually negatively impacts the gameplay of the heli as when I try to get it to do something like we used to in DayZ is actively stops me by starting an autohover/braking menouver to slow me down. If I want to backflip the heli, let me, if I crash then thats on me. Currently there is no way to turn that shit off.
    Flying 2.0: The planes camera angles are terrible and all over the place. It doesnt lock the camera to front view of the plan like it should. You actively have to look around with right stick just to get the camera in a position to see where you are going. It doesnt chase well either.
    The game also has a lot of potential to be very repetetive. I liken it a little bit to Just Cause 3. Huge map and the same sort of mindset. Destabilize current faction in power by taking down their big players one-by-one. It gets very “samey”. In saying that, the tactical options will allow for a bit of diversity in this regard unless there turns out to be a “one size fits all” approach for all kill objectives. That will present itself in time.

    TL;DR: It has potential to be a really fun game for Co-op. There are some issues with air vehicles and land vehicles have backwards physics, but those are semi-pasable. There is a good chance the game could be super repetetive as well, but we won’t know until it’s actually out. Personally? I will be waiting it out a little bit. Will give it a month or so for the community to find all the nitty gritty stuff and then make an informed decision from there.

    • PurplePariah

      Even the tl;dr is tl;dr. Channeling your inner Raptor, are you?

    • Hammersteyn

      Driving was fine. Especially when I rolled my jeep down a hill

      • And it rolls back to the highest point of the downhill 😛

        • Hammersteyn

          ROFL! no, wait, RUPL (Rolls uphill laughing)

  • Did anyone figure out how to fly helicopters properly?

    • MonsterCheddar

      @PANTHIS:disqus also said it was kak.

      • Kak is an understatement.

        • Hammersteyn

          Play is on PS4 😛

          • I did… 😀

          • Hammersteyn

            With Cheddar?

          • Gouda, actually 😛

    • TJames47

      Dip the nose forward and just before it tilts back leave the left analog and just keep Throttle (R2 for me) down. Helo will fly straight at full speed where you can then steer right or left without it throwing a tantrum.

    • Hammersteyn

      I did, but accurately shooting things was impossible

      • TJames47

        Yeah I had to be ground level to get any shot on target.

        • Hammersteyn

          And even while moving it felt like the people on the ground were shooting homing bullets

    • HairyEwok

      Best way to fly helicopters in the game is to destroy it and just rather walk/drive.

  • Captain JJ

    I feel like since Tom Clancy passed away Ubi has just changed their approach to those games…and messing it up.

    • MonsterCheddar

      He is doing barrel rolls in his coffin.

      • Captain JJ

        Yea

  • HvR

    Watching that video I already miss Matty always going for the unprotected rear entrance

    • PurplePariah

      That’s one loaded statement.

    • Hammersteyn

      XD

    • Matthew Figueira

      Oh you 😛

  • Bad vehicle controlls. Terrible singleplayer. Amazing co-op. this could be the co-op game of the year but ONLY as co-op and ONLY with 4 friends. Also the guns feel same-y. I mean and LMG is different to a sniper but every LMG feels like every other LMG. Same with snipers.

    I can get past that though as the co-op is awesome when it works. This strict NAT thing made a lot people not able to connect to one another and people were throwing blame at ports not being open and ISPs not being correct. This is total BS though as many people could play every other single MP game they had no issues. They need to fix that ASAP.

  • TJames47

    Two issues for me.

    1. When you clear a side mission or main mission of enemies and you drive by later they are back. For random encounters that is okay, but not the rest.

    2. If you are in a squad of 2 the game does not add 2 AI’s to fill up the squad.

  • Hammersteyn
    • Ir0nseraph

      XD

  • Admiral Chief

    Great idea, KAK execution.

    For THAT price, they still need to fix a LOT

    • Hammersteyn

      I played a few mission and was like, is this it? The game feels like what The Division should have been all along.

      • Admiral Chief

        NO, Division is more fun.

        GR has the single/double shot realism, which I like. Cover mechanics are kak.

        A lot of Far Cry and Just Cause elements though

        • Ir0nseraph

          I enjoyed wildlands more then The Division sponges.

          • Hammersteyn

            Yes! Shooting someone just once in the face, instead of emptying a magazine was so much less frustrating

          • Admiral Chief

            Indeed, THAT I really do like, sneaking, preparing, tagging enemies, then picking them off one by one.

            Reminds me a LOT of how I played the first Crysis

        • Hammersteyn

          That might be true, but I can’t help but feel that both will have disappointing endgame content

          • Ir0nseraph

            I hope you are wrong.

          • Hammersteyn

            Me too XD

  • Admiral Chief

    They still have a LOT to fix before going live…

  • Craig “CrAiGiSh” Dodd

    AKA, The Division 2 😛

    The co-op has my attention but will wait WAY later after reviews and for it to go on SUPER DISCOUNTED SPECIAL.

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