Geez, remember when the Xbox 360 came out? That was 2005. PS3? 2006! That’s a hell of a long time ago. There’s this thing I like to call last gen mould. I’m not talking about retro games, I’m talking about the last generation – the last nine years of gaming, and it all suddenly looks like crap. It happened to me this week.
I would like to preface this by saying I’m not a graphics snob. You only have to see the indie stuff I review positively to see I value gameplay and style over poly count and resolution. Let me regale you with the story of how I came across next gen mould. I recently popped in Sleeping Dogs for PS3 because I have fond memories of playing it through. Playing it now was a real eye opener. That game came out in 2012, only two years ago. Not only was there significant stuttering and pop in textures and models, but the game looked, well, bad.
I know it wasn’t marketed as a technical marvel like GTA V, which by no great admission on my part, looks fantastic. I’m not sure what I was expecting, but I certainly didn’t think it would age that badly. It was only two bloody years ago! I could understand launch titles looking not so great, but Sleeping Dogs? I remember it looking pretty damn good. At first I thought it was my console giving out on me, but it turns out that these issues were just there from the start and I never noticed.
I think a lot of it comes from what I consider old. As someone who plays a lot of games on old systems, I can see the charm and acknowledge the technical limitations of the time. But with last gen it still feels like yesterday. It still feels like yesterday that I was in awe of GTA IV. I go back and play it now and it looks like an oil painting where all the paint has been smudged and stained with coffee.
Play it on PC and sure, it’s a (slightly) different story, but my computer at the time could run basically nothing, so console it was for me. I understand that even back then, the consoles were behind PC in terms of power, but the majority of major releases were designed for and within the limitations of the console, then later ported to PC.
The most annoying part is that last gen to current gen isn’t that great of a jump. There’s definitely diminishing returns from then to now. This picture illustrates what I mean perfectly. There’s really not much difference in terms of mesh quality between 6000 and 60,000 triangles. Of course this doesn’t take into account more sophisticated texture mapping and animations, but it’s illustrative of why I don’t understand why I can see that much of a difference.
I could forgive a game for looking murky, but damn, even last gen frame rate gets to me. It doesn’t take too long to notice a last gen system struggling to render everything in front of it. There’s a big difference between 30 frames per second and 24, and a huge difference between 60fps and when it drops to the forties. The worst and most recent offender is Gran Turismo 6. Even running it in 720p doesn’t completely fix the frame rate dips. This was really the tipping point for me. A game that has always had a solid frame rate for me is now struggling on last gen hardware.
I feel like a spoilt brat. Like I need everything on ultra settings on my 4k wraparound monitor on my 6 grand gaming rig with 4 Titans in quad SLI. in reality I don’t, but it’s scary that I can look back on these games and be rather unimpressed with how they look, to the point where playing them is soured for me. But hey, maybe I’m overreacting. Perhaps it is simply games improving in quality over time, and the change was so gradual I never noticed.
Am I alone on this? Do I expect too much from last gen? What, if anything, has changed for you.
Last Updated: February 27, 2014
RinceandGATHERTroops!
February 27, 2014 at 15:41
I knew you were kidding about the monitors the moment you mentioned 4, on YOUR desk, I think not 😉 But yes. Interesting article. Things are going to be a lot slower on the improvement side, that includes PCs. I wonder if some new equation or model will come out and blow our frigging minds.
General JJ the annihilator
February 27, 2014 at 15:45
I’m still waiting for the new Alien Emperor model to come out. I hear it comes with even more wit. Sounds dangerous to me.
RinceandGATHERTroops!
February 27, 2014 at 15:46
Trust me, we’ve all been waiting for @Alien Emperor Trevor:disqus to come out, but just thought we would let nature take its course. You are a bit hasty though 0-O …
General JJ the annihilator
February 27, 2014 at 15:48
No no. Come now Master Rince. I was merely wondering what improvements it would bring. That is all.
RinceandGATHERTroops!
February 27, 2014 at 15:50
Now? Not in the mood! It’s too hot! 0-O
General JJ the annihilator
February 27, 2014 at 15:52
Damn it!
Wait a second…don’t tell me you got turned on just now…
RinceandGATHERTroops!
February 27, 2014 at 15:54
It was a riot! I mean in Cape Town, there was one, a riot that is, hot, sticky riot.. Umm…
General JJ the annihilator
February 27, 2014 at 15:55
O_o
Alien Emperor Trevor
February 27, 2014 at 15:56
If you wait a second it’ll be over. (That’s what she said.)
General JJ the annihilator
February 27, 2014 at 15:57
Only a second hey? There there.
Alien Emperor Trevor
February 27, 2014 at 15:57
Oh no, not again.
Alien Emperor Trevor
February 27, 2014 at 15:57
I’m fabulous just the way I am :/
RinceandGATHERTroops!
February 27, 2014 at 16:01
Yes sweetie, you are! http://31.media.tumblr.com/aa23608c242af4e050692276c8c7122e/tumblr_mrg7jyRsa51s0ei66o1_500.gif
Alien Emperor Trevor
February 27, 2014 at 15:52
… danger’s my… middle name.
General JJ the annihilator
February 27, 2014 at 15:53
Actually it’s Emperor. It’s says so, right there next to your avatar.
RinceandGATHERTroops!
February 27, 2014 at 15:56
Hehe
Alien Emperor Trevor
February 27, 2014 at 16:03
That’s a title. pffft.
Admiral Chief in Vegas
February 27, 2014 at 16:09
I thought SP was?
Alien Emperor Trevor
February 27, 2014 at 15:43
If I could spend 60-odd hours playing FF8 on PC a couple of months ago, graphics don’t mean all that much to me.
Hammersteyn
February 27, 2014 at 15:43
Indie titles agree.
General JJ the annihilator
February 27, 2014 at 15:44
So so true. We have the proof!
General JJ the annihilator
February 27, 2014 at 15:43
Sleeping Dogs looks good on PC running on full.
Stephen Snook
February 28, 2014 at 00:24
I recently got it on pc. The frame rate on consoles is what got to me.
General JJ the annihilator
February 28, 2014 at 07:21
Ah. I must say, I really really enjoyed that game. The fact that hand-to-hand combat plays a bigger role than guns is such a fresh idea for this kind of game.
fred
February 27, 2014 at 15:46
Went from Killzone SF ps4 to Specs Ops : The Line PS3 ….. mmmm , looks so bad my eyes hurt
Hammersteyn
February 27, 2014 at 15:47
Did the same, went from Tomb Raider to Borderlands 2. The rendering is awful!
General JJ the annihilator
February 27, 2014 at 15:47
Try going from Deus Ex HR to the original and then realizing that their mouths didn’t move when they spoke. The original still blows my mind, none the less.
Hammersteyn
February 27, 2014 at 15:48
System shock 2 is ugly as hell. But still a ton of fun to play.
General JJ the annihilator
February 27, 2014 at 15:48
Another great example.
Admiral Chief in Vegas
February 27, 2014 at 15:50
10 tons of fun
General JJ the annihilator
February 27, 2014 at 15:50
Is that pic on in the article GTA IV? I don’t know. Looks pretty bad though.
Hammersteyn
February 27, 2014 at 15:53
It is.
General JJ the annihilator
February 27, 2014 at 15:54
Thanks. Had a serious frown on my face there for a second.
Hammersteyn
February 27, 2014 at 15:55
I now that street, drove past there lots of times 😉
Spathi
February 27, 2014 at 15:50
Interstate 76 was the shit!! REMAKE!!!
Stephen Snook
February 28, 2014 at 00:24
Damn right!
Umar Reborn
February 27, 2014 at 15:52
I don’t know, last(current) gen gave me more than I had hoped for….graphics means little to nothing to me. Hell I’m playing Code Veronica X at the moment and we all know how shite that looks. I can honestly go back to every generation and enjoy something out of there.
Hammersteyn
February 27, 2014 at 15:55
Best cartoon graphics ever!
http://cdn3.whatculture.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Ni-No-Kuni.jpg
Umar Reborn
February 27, 2014 at 15:55
EXACTLY that…..!!!That game will forever look stunning
Sir Rants A Lot Llew. Jelly!!!
February 27, 2014 at 16:04
I’ve suffered that often. Games that used to wow me look really bad once you go back after a handful of years.
You are not alone
Hammersteyn
February 27, 2014 at 16:05
Resolutiongate is just bragging rights for PS owners to rub into the faces of the other consoles. There are countless Genesis,Super Nintendo and Nes Roms that I still l play.
The graphics on the Ps4 is very,very pretty. But if the industry plans on feeding us games like Aliens Colonial Marines, Ride to hell Retribution and Rambo plus tax us constantly with microtransactions and unnecessary DLC then they better think long and hard where if they still want to be in bussiness five years time.
Indie titles are on the rise and are competing with AAA titles. They are cheaper to buy and dare I say comes out with a lot less bugs.
General JJ the annihilator
February 27, 2014 at 16:08
I agree. I can’t remember the last time I bought a game and really thought to myself, “wow this is going to look so good on my pc”.
Of all my games in my Steam library I’ve probably spent more time on indie games the past year than on the AAA’s
SL3DGE
February 27, 2014 at 16:07
A bit off topic but I was amazed when I popped Z.O.E HD Collection (PS3) in the other day and it prompted an update – what a difference it made.
The so called HD remake looked and played like crap before the update, now the textures are smooth and runs at 60fps. Pretty decent.
Here is a comparison between the un-patched and patched version:
http://kotaku.com/zone-of-the-enders-no-longer-looks-like-crap-in-hd-907307324
Johan du Preez
February 27, 2014 at 16:47
Dont know about console but on pc sleeping dogs still looks as good as games that comes out today. Heck Mafia II still looks really good but I can see the problem with consoles and noticed it myself when I was playing the latest gears of war, It looked really washed out and bland.
CypherGate
February 27, 2014 at 17:52
Its scary how bad games can age.
Rags
February 27, 2014 at 23:33
The biggest jump in graphics certainly where the first experience from software to hardware rendering. Seeing a game like Quake 2 for the first time on your new voodoo 2. Man was that impressive!
But the polygons do count, while there will be a limit to the number of useful triangles, but we are not anywhere close to that. While on a single character 100 000 faces is possibly enough, it spread over the armour, weapons and other props you realise that it still is not enough, and then you want to actually do some complexity in the scene too. This is why GTA always looks shit, it has too much complexity and thus low poly everything and shitty effects.
That said, framerate is the biggest reason why I won’t adopt a console. Gamers usually say that its the strong point of a console is just to pick up and play without having to change the settings. In my opinion that is its biggest drawback. I’d rather tune down the graphics to experience at least a constant 60fps.
All that said I still play a good Open Red Alert 95 now and then, it looks like shit, but its still immersive and sometimes with its horrible memory leak, brings my i7 to its knees 😛
ZumaIsPoes
February 28, 2014 at 07:55
look , i am busy playing sleeping dogs currently , i have an i5 , 8gigs or ram ( the normal stuff , not the crazy cool ram with its own heat sinks and the like) and my friends old GPU ( its a 1gig , while i wait for my 4gig witch should be in today ) and it (sleeping dogs) looks abosultey stunning on my system , lighting is harp textures rare well done ( the city is vastly under populated compared to GTA V ) and the gameplay is fun , i have no idea what what the game looks like on PS3 , but on pc , its tasty looking good .
UltimateNinjaPandaDudeGuy
February 28, 2014 at 11:22
I love good graphics. If you have played that game where it is raining and the water effects are awesome and everything looks seamless there isn’t really going back for me.
Spending 7k on my graphics card upgrade this week. It will be AWESOME! o/