Why you Can’t have Cross Game Chat : Is a Major Publisher Holding Back The PS3?

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The internet rumour mill is in full swing, this time laced with more than just a little conspiracy; An anonymous N4G forum user by the name of Super_Secret – who claims to be an employee of Sony Japan – has divulged why you can’t have unified custom soundtracks, and by extension cross-game chat on your PS3.

Normally nobody really pays attention to random forum users, but Super_Secret was eerily correct when he leaked information on the PS3 slim back in June; He said the install other OS option would be missing, said the touch-sensitive buttons would be replaced by regular buttons and was also spot on regarding Hard Drive size.

In his latest forum rambling, Super_Secret has revealed just why you can’t have Cross-Game chat (a staple feature of the undeniably superior paid Xbox Live service) – and as a result has created an internet army of angry PS3 fans.

According to the cryptic internet ninja, a rather large corporation is responsible for you not having built-in cross-game chat. That same company is responsible for the lack of integrated custom soundtracks. If you recall in the preview video for firmware 2.4, custom soundtracks was working fine for 95%, but by the time 2.4 actually launched, that feature was missing. Of course, some games now support the feature, but it has to be coded in to the game.

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Anyway, apparently one large publisher’s games fell in to that 5%, and didn’t want their games to look bad – so they requested the feature be dropped from Sony’s firmware update. Similar to that issue is the one of Cross-Game chat, a heavily requested feature. Apparently the same publisher has a hand in that feature not being implemented as some of their (apparently poorly coded) games won’t work with it – and they threatened to drop support for Sony’s console if it showed their games in a bad light.

While not naming the publisher directly, the poster did leave an encoded message divulging its identity. Needless to say, the message was decoded rather quickly :

” It’s not Activision. It’s not Ubisoft. It’s not Capcom. It’s not Insomniac. It’s not Konami. It’s not Take 2. It’s not Midway. It’s not Squaresoft. are wE All getting the picture yet? One point I want to reiterate – there’s a difference between the games that didn’t work with in-game XMB and the games that DID work with in-game XMB but DIDN’T work well with custom soundtracks, so stop picking out the ones that simply didn’t do in-game XMB. Also, it wasn’t just ONE game that caused this, either. Although one title does come to mind and it wasn’t even what you or I would call a “Big” game. I’ll give you a hint: HPatOofP. “

The internet quickly realised that the publisher in question was EA, and the hint alluded to “Harry Potter and the order of the Phoenix” which resulted in a flurry of very, very angry PS3 fans bombarding the EA forums with questions, expressing their vitriol and threatening to boycott EA. This quickly devolved in to a forum war involving large quantities of the very worst in scat porn – which made me ashamed to be a gamer, and a human being.

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Both Sony and EA have vehemently denied this, but isn’t that to be expected? While this all may seem a little far fetched, it’s not implausible for it to be true. You may remember that EA dropped support the Dreamcast, effectively sentencing it to death. They also threatened to boycott Microsoft’s original Xbox over Microsoft’s own line of sport games. Remember Links golf?

Original N4G thread here.

Last Updated: August 28, 2009

Geoffrey Tim

Editor. I’m old, grumpy and more than just a little cynical. One day, I found myself in possession of a NES, and a copy of Super Mario Bros 3. It was that game that made me realise that games were more than just toys to idly while away time – they were capable of being masterpieces. I’m here now, looking for more of those masterpieces.

  • easy

    and now let the lahar of mudslinging begin… :whistle:

  • Q121

    Why do we never have forum scat wars….. so unfair


  • spl0it

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  • Ozzy

    hardly suprising if it is EA. they have quite a shit reputation already. they love money & power like gabe newell loves creamy-poofs.

  • Hey! Watch it, Gabe Newell will eat you if you’re not careful! :devil:

  • Ozzy

    he would eat his own foot if you put cream on it. :tongue:

  • Haaaaaaaaahahahahaha 😆

    ah man, that just made my day.

  • Quagga

    My god! “undeniably superior Xbox Live service”. There is PLENTY of evidence to argue or deny the superiority of one service over the other, and it is an on-going debate.

    In classic LazyGamer style, you have presumed that you can end YEARS of fanboy debate with your biased opinion by throwing in the word “undeniably” into your article, italicised for effect as well!

    Well, I deny it. Now what, Geoff?

  • It does seem a tad presumptuous of the author, but impartiality isn’t always common-place around these parts with xbox vs. ps3 matters.

  • Most international videogame journalists and websites have come to the same conclusion, not just the author of this post. Besides the fact that PSN is free, I can’t fully believe that PSN offers the better service.

    I don’t mean it in a war-starting way, but just as plain as what is in front of me. Cross game chats, party systems and more importantly the integration of those things into every game that is released, not to mention that XBLA require demos for all their games. The service is solid.

  • janrik

    Clap Clap Clap Clap.

    Calm and to the point. Well done old chap. 😆

  • easy

    “Cross game chats”

    lol… funny you should mention that… 😉

  • Right now, I have to say that Xbox Live IS the better service. The PSN has made strides since it first launched, but still isn’t anywhere near the level of XBL.

    Man, there’s no winning for me. I get accused of being a PS3 fanboy in some articles, and an Xbot in others.

  • Ozzy

    but live also have people like janprick. that on its own devalues the service entirely :whistle:

  • easy

    but you supply a healthy dose gratuitous flesh!

    more than makes up for all your other ‘failings’ 😀

  • Boobs

    And PSN has people like Ozzprick…

  • easy

    and lazygamer comments have boobsprick…

    mmm that doesn’t sound too bad actually lol :angel: 😆

  • At least the acknowledgment of my mammary fanboy status is unfaltering. :biggrin:

  • Nick

    Heres the problem with your post Geoff.

    (1) You should have used the word arguably. Why you ask? Well you are a journalist meant to inform about the news not provide your own opinion. Previews and Reviews are another matter which obviously are opinion pieces meant to be informed by your opinions. If you want to sing the praises of Xbox live vs PSN or Wii’s online service then write an article and at least justify your reasons otherwise no one will take your articles seriously and just dismiss you as another fanboy gaming blogger pretending to be a games journalist.

    (2) Second problem is the fact that you are writing for South African gamers not for the rest of the world. You need to justify why you feel Xbox live is better for South Africans and frankly when it comes to South Africa MS made promises and then screwed us. Now we have to make accounts in other countries using a foreign residential address which is probably illegal, then still pay to play and finally we dont get access to mature content in some cases like the Gears of War 2 DLC fiasco. I would hardly call that a superior service for South Africans would you? Especially in light of the fact that even though we are a small gaming market, predominantly PC centric, Sony still had respect enough for us to give us our own store, in our own currency, which gets updated as soon as Europe does 99% of the time from day one.

  • meatcake

    And Boobs is a gender confused 17 year old. And yes I’m a meatcake. How about we all play some games now? :silly:

  • meatcake

    You make an excellent points there…. well done.

  • meatcake

    :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:

  • Thanks for a well thought out and level-headed response.

    You do make some very good points – and I agree that as South Africans we have been shafted by Microsoft.

    Live is still the better service though, primarily because of Microsoft’s decision to have the service fully integrated and unified into the system.

    This is evidenced by the fact that this particular post even exists – and it’s this post as a whole that people need to focus on, not the single parenthesised (Parenthesis, you see, is a digressionary departure from the main subject, often used to input a writer’s opinion, without that having an effect on the subject matter at hand) sentence proclaiming Xbox Live’s superiority.

  • The existence of this post is NOT evidence that Xbox is the better service. It is merely one checkmark for Xbox in a LONG list of pros and cons of the two systems.

    Perhaps XBL *is* the better service, but the point is, who are YOU to proclaim it as the “undeniably superior” service when there are plenty of arguments to the contrary?

  • It was a parenthesised opinion. When voicing opinions I have the right to say whatever I like – just as you have the right to disagree.

    As far as playing multiplayer games with friends is concerned, XBL is the better service – it’s just so much more coherent.

    On the flip side, I think the PSN provides better and more unique downloadable titles, with XBLA mostly providing rehashes and remakes of things we’ve all played before.

    …but that’s the PSN Store – a digital shopfront as opposed to the service.

  • If you believe I have the right to disagree, then “undeniably” is probably not the best choice of words when voicing your opinion.

  • Fair point, perhaps not the best choice of words. 🙂

    I actually quite enjoyed this dialogue, and hope to possibly have more with you in the future.

  • I don’t care

    If you have the right to disagree then he as the right to use the word “undeniably”. Or you could just write your own article.

  • SlippyMadFrog

    How do you know when you are a fanboy? -> When you piss your pants over a small off-topic statement made in an article about something else entirely.

    Seriously guys, what does it matter if Geoff thinks XBL is better? Who gives a shit! Will this article have some sort of tangible impact on your gaming pleasure? -> No! so stfu with this childish crap.

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