Most games on consoles right now don’t run at the de-facto HD standard of 1080p. In fact, most of them render at a resolution below 720p – and even then, very few of them run at the buttery smooth 60 frames per second. Forza 5, says Turn 10, will be the first game in the revered racing series to run at 60 frames per second in full HD.
“I believe we’re uniquely positioned to deliver on that challenge. We’re a huge epic game that’s going to be running at 1080p, 60fps on the next-gen console, so it’s an incredible opportunity on one hand, but you have to be incredibly flexible and agile and self-aware on the other hand,” Turn 10 content director John Wendel told Gamespot.
That doesn’t mean that all next-gen console games will hit that sweet spot though; the decision to do 1080p, 60 fps was Turn 10’s, not Microsoft’s.
“I don’t think that platform holders can dictate what the internal frame buffer size should be. Forza 5 runs at 60 frames per second, but other people will make different trade-offs,” he said.
“Resolution is not the thing that maximises beauty.”
Honestly though? It’s a new generation of consoles – and at this point, I think most people expect 1080p and 60fps as standard.
Last Updated: June 6, 2013
Spathi
June 6, 2013 at 09:52
Just unfortunate that it only works on the Xbone, so for all I care, it could run at 4K at 180 FPS, I ain’t touching that shit with my dead grandmother’s finger.
Andre116
June 6, 2013 at 10:02
Why do you have your dead grandmother’s finger?
OVG
June 6, 2013 at 10:08
For the security lock at the Bank deposit box.
HvR
June 6, 2013 at 10:13
Would you mess with a guy whose got his dead grandmas’s finger?
Spathi
June 6, 2013 at 10:14
Well, on her death bed I asked her what I’m going to inherit, and she gave me the finger.
Andre116
June 6, 2013 at 10:19
Hope you at least waited till she passed away.
OVG
June 6, 2013 at 10:28
lol
Spathi
June 6, 2013 at 10:44
Happy hour waits for no man!
Andre116
June 6, 2013 at 10:50
Suppose it made for an interesting conversation starter at the bar. “What’s that that you are stirring your drink with?”
“Oh, this old thing…”
Spathi
June 6, 2013 at 11:03
Damn I laughed!!
DarthofZA
June 6, 2013 at 10:21
These comments I don’t get. Even if the Xbone beats the PS4 in not only the amount of games, but the quality of games, you still wouldn’t touch it. What is this generation coming to? I said it before, and I’ll say it again. The console flaming and fanboism this generation is a lot worse than the last generation. And they say our medium is growing up… wish that was true.
OVG
June 6, 2013 at 10:32
It is called MANDATORY shit we do not want. Kinect 2 (always on spy cam), DRM, mandatory Internet connections and living in South Africa we do not want to pay for features that do not work here.
They can release the next gen SKYRIM killer and I still will never think about updating my 360. We are no longer Microsofts demographic.
THE Bone is for rich American COD kids.
OVG
June 6, 2013 at 10:33
TV TV TV TV TV TV TV TV TV TV TV TV
Nick de Bruyne
June 6, 2013 at 10:39
I guess it’s nice to see the fanboys out so bright and early this time around. I would wait a little longer to hear from your oh-so-precious Sony – who have been scarily quiet about their side of things – before saying anything else. Of course you won’t, but hey – the floor is yours!
OVG
June 6, 2013 at 10:44
You are late to the party Nick. Where have you been the last 2 weeks.
I am an XBOT thru and thru.
I just do not have internet and do not care to game with the internet. Hence I am not their demographic.
I agree that SONY will pull the same shit because if you have been gaming for 3 decades you will know that they are all in bed with each other. Orwell 1984.
I am picking up a PS3 and another 360 when the price drops are announced at E3.
360 FOREVER.
Nick de Bruyne
June 6, 2013 at 10:55
I still just maintain that we need to hang on before saying too much more, its only a few days away now. And once we have the full info, we can start going off. Until then, we are just pretty much running in circles.
The Xbox One online stuff really barely bothers me, even though I take my Xbox out of town to our holiday home for long stretches of time once a year – these days its not such a hassle, flip your phone to share internet, log in to authenticate, switch off and carry on.
Yeah it will be a schlep compared to doing nothing instead, but it really isnt so bad. Hell… it isnt always-online, and thats what matters. We will see, maybe things will change if the audience just completely boycotts the new systems. Then again the new systems may actually make a lot of sense when we hear about them… so lets wait and see.
OVG
June 6, 2013 at 10:59
Now that LG has upgraded the server it is going to be busy around here. You are right, lets sheath our swords and sharpen our axes for E3 BABY!!!
Spathi
June 6, 2013 at 11:07
My gripe with that (online checks), give them the pinky now, and they’ll grab the whole hand next gen.
Also, our internet in SA ain’t all that stable all the time. It remains a nuisance.
Nick de Bruyne
June 6, 2013 at 11:38
Yeah it’s tough for us here in SA, because the truth is that the other countries want to push more boundaries and forge ahead, and we get left behind – but like we have seen even with companies like Apple, it does actually really help progress.
Again like I said, at least it’s not always online. But… I am scared that we are gonna have launch issues where we can’t activate our games, or won’t be able to play our games because XBL is down or something… hopefully they have full back ups in place, but we can never be certain of that
Spathi
June 6, 2013 at 12:07
I’ll remain quiet about your Apple remark, but with the rest I do agree 😉
Nick de Bruyne
June 6, 2013 at 12:24
Even I felt funny writing it lol, BUT what I meant was things like how Apple was ridiculed and moaned at for not supporting Flash, but it was the right thing to do and pushed everything forward.
Hellkom
June 6, 2013 at 12:23
Unfortunately your gripe should be with Telkom, you cannot blame a multi billion $ company for pushing innovation that we here is SA (which make up a very small portion of the market) might not be able to utilise 100%. Let’s send Telkom some Memes!! 😉
DarthofZA
June 6, 2013 at 11:04
You might be a 360 fanboy, but you are most certainly now a ps4 fanboy…
I’ve been neutral for 3 generations straight, won’t change that now. You’ve just changed from being an extreme fanboy on one side to the other side.
OVG
June 6, 2013 at 11:08
Once you go jap, you never go back :p
TheFez
June 6, 2013 at 12:24
It’s that purple anime hair!!
TiMsTeR1033
June 6, 2013 at 12:20
360 forever……But what will happen when you see all the shiny bright colours and crystal clear beautiful games on ps4? just look away? lol
OVG
June 6, 2013 at 12:47
Nice and shiny…
OVG
June 6, 2013 at 10:51
When are you coming back to LG? The wars are going to hot up come xmas.
Nick de Bruyne
June 6, 2013 at 10:56
Ill do my best to at least troll the comments as often as possible 😉
OVG
June 6, 2013 at 12:48
Sweet, because you unleashed the dragon today 😉
Spathi
June 6, 2013 at 11:00
I own all the current gen consoles and blind brand loyalty is idiotic in my view. But it will take a lot of convincing to get me to buy the X1 as things look currently. I’m always open to convinced otherwise.
Nick de Bruyne
June 6, 2013 at 10:31
I can’t honestly fully comprehend some people’s idiocy when it comes to judging these new consoles so early.
HvR
June 6, 2013 at 10:41
Actually judging/flaming/complaining/trolling tech products have proven successful in recent years to change these products for the better.
RincemysoulXboxOne
June 6, 2013 at 10:42
What you said!
Nick de Bruyne
June 6, 2013 at 10:45
That would make sense… if people’s complaints were based on actual information. People are completely judging the two systems side by side when its CLEAR that there’s a ton of information that still has to be released.
Nick de Bruyne
June 6, 2013 at 10:57
If you just downvoted someone for saying that we should get all the information before making judgements… you are a complete tool bag. Wow.
RincemysoulXboxOne
June 6, 2013 at 11:07
I never downvote, I’m on here too often to bother wasting my time with that. Tool bag, oh my.
Spathi
June 6, 2013 at 11:08
Is tool bag a nicer word for ball sack?
RincemysoulXboxOne
June 6, 2013 at 11:09
I think so. Surprised he didn’t think his ‘WERE ALL GONNA DIE’ comment may have lead someone to think that HE is the tool bag and deserves a thumbesdown though.
Nick de Bruyne
June 6, 2013 at 11:26
I was just making fun of your… well quite honestly… ridiculous statement that we are going to wait until it’s ‘TOO LATE’, when in reality, we need to just wait a few days to E3 to let the companies properly announce their plans.
RincemysoulXboxOne
June 6, 2013 at 11:30
If they release information that there will be DRM etc (the concerns of the community) at E3, are they going to then backtrack if the community goes mental? I don’t see that as happening. I agree that comparing the consoles is a bit hasty, but I also agree that making it clear what people will not accept will influence what is released. The capitals I used were to stress the point that by E3 if both SONY and MS have already decided on something there will be little the community can do to get them to backtrack, not when developers have a 100% understanding of what they can and cannot do.
Nick de Bruyne
June 6, 2013 at 11:42
OK but again I don’t understand how you think that after E3 it will be set in stone. Especially since, like I mentioned before, we don’t actually have the full information yet. We just simply don’t know what they have planned, but let’s not forget something: They are fully aware that if they push too hard, they will lose customers and the industry will dive like crazy. They know that they have some sort of ability to push and try their luck, but they are definitely at our mercy to a degree.
Rinceyouropinion
June 6, 2013 at 11:48
I have already said I agree that we cannot compare consoles based on the information we have. Which sounds like what you are saying. I have also stated that it is categorically important for a community to make their voices and concerns heard, as this does indeed mean they are at our mercy to a degree. Think we are arguing a very similar thing here. Just to point out though, if E3 is not a set in stone affair, then waiting till E3 is less important as a turning point. Anywho, I don’t like arguing (unless it’s with CoD fanboys) and have enjoyed our heated game of tennis 🙂
Nick de Bruyne
June 6, 2013 at 12:01
Thanks to you too. I don’t think E3 is important as a turning point, not for things like changing DRM method etc. I do think that its an important date in terms of allowing us to finally get all of the information. So people can complain already, and make their voices heard, but it would be a little silly if Sony/MS got up and said something no one was expecting, but… oh well, we have to wait and see.
RincemysoulXboxOne
June 6, 2013 at 10:43
I would have to disagree. If you have been keeping up to date, which I am sure you have, you’ll note the recognition from SONY execs in regards to peoples complaints. If we don’t complain about something, how are we supposed to change it?
Nick de Bruyne
June 6, 2013 at 10:47
As I said above – wait for the full info, then complain. Nothing will make the complaints get taken less serious than if people are moaning without knowing the info, it just makes them look like… well, moaners – not people with legitimate issues.
RincemysoulXboxOne
June 6, 2013 at 10:51
Wait for full info? You mean when it is too late? Nope, sorry. I will let be known what I do not want on my console BEFORE IT’S TOO LATE so execs can gauge public opinion, before they release a machine no one wants.
Nick de Bruyne
June 6, 2013 at 10:58
Dude WTF lol… not UNTIL ITS TOO LATE! OH NOES WE ALL GONNA DIE… I meant wait until E3 in a few days.
RincemysoulXboxOne
June 6, 2013 at 11:01
That was mature… We are not all ‘gonna’ die. It’s a console, not a course of ARVs… And following your logic, everyone should just shut the hell up about everything, including games that are coming out, movies, etc. I have an idea. Let’s just close LG while we are at it? You are in the WRONG place if you want people to hold back on their opinions mate, big time.
Nick de Bruyne
June 6, 2013 at 11:09
Yeah, the dude saying we should wait *just a few days* before making our decisions is the immature, illogical one.
RincemysoulXboxOne
June 6, 2013 at 11:11
WE ALL GONNA DIE. That is logical… Oh my…
Nick de Bruyne
June 6, 2013 at 11:28
Hey you are the one that started the tinfoil-hat party and wanted to escalate it, so don’t hate on people for playing along. But it’s best that you let me know you don’t approve of my comment BEFORE IT’S TOO LATE.
RincemysoulXboxOne
June 6, 2013 at 11:31
Wow, and you used to be the editor of LG? Thank god for Gavin.
Nick de Bruyne
June 6, 2013 at 11:35
You’ve made it pretty clear that you are just sore about your ridiculous comment being called out – not gonna entertain it anymore.
Rinceyouropinion
June 6, 2013 at 11:41
What comment? Before it’s too late? My word, you are petty. And agreed, to entertain this menial thread is pointless.
Nick de Bruyne
June 6, 2013 at 11:52
It was meant as light, completely unimportant humour – not exactly so sure why you so riled up about it. Not sure why you are trying to take it as literal and then call me out as illogical, I *obviously* don’t think we are all gonna die. Ok, finished now.
DarthofZA
June 6, 2013 at 11:16
The comment sections have gone downhill since you left Nick, as I’m sure you can see. At least the actual content is as good as ever so I’ll still stick around.
Nick de Bruyne
June 6, 2013 at 11:29
Yeah the boys are still running a tight operation. The comments section though… I have Mr. Rincemysoul over here reminding me that the glory days of Lans and his accusations of my PS3 HATE PROPAGANDA are far gone LOL
Jakster
June 6, 2013 at 11:19
LOL, if you visit this site daily, you’ll see it’s the same handful of PS fanbois saying the same thing day in and out about the Xbox One and the PS4. That’s making this site look immature and the meme’s are really what’s crashing the server.
StayInSchool
June 6, 2013 at 12:14
I couldn’t agree more! Everyday the same people spitting the same vile rubbish! This is why cell phones should be banned at school, these kids just sitting in class posting silly meme’s while they should be LEARNING!
Spathi
June 6, 2013 at 10:54
I’m judging with the few facts I have. And currently, the Xbone doesn’t appeal to me in any way of form whatsoever. Actually, AIDS looks more inviting. That may change after E3. I also truly believe that the Xbone will be hugely successful and they may have great exclusives, but the negatives far outweighs the positives currently.
Also, what would the internet be without hype and trolling? Not nearly as much fun, would it?
Nick de Bruyne
June 6, 2013 at 10:59
Can’t not agree on that last one lol
ALKi1234
June 6, 2013 at 10:07
“Resolution is not the thing that maximises beauty.” So true,i’d rather play at 720p with better physics and higher frames p/s.
OVG
June 6, 2013 at 10:07
That is what SONY promised 7 years ago with GT5 lol
FoxOneZA - X-Therminator
June 6, 2013 at 10:23
Trolling not intended 😉
OVG
June 6, 2013 at 10:27
Nope, Microsoft are playing catch up.
Nick de Bruyne
June 6, 2013 at 10:32
Well that would be true if Sony came remotely close to doing what they promised. If you mean they promised GT5 at 60fps/1080p I might fall over and die. Its 1080p alright, but that framerate… noooo.
OVG
June 6, 2013 at 10:37
Yip it does drop below 60fps. 30fps is fine, like HALO 4 that runs at 30fps but is full 720 runs as smooth as a babies bottom.
We are just going to have to endure more lies lies and lies while they gun for the early install base and then backtrack all over again.
Nick de Bruyne
June 6, 2013 at 10:43
Problem with GT5 is that if you run a race with a full grid for example, when you arrive at the first corner the game drops below 30. But to be honest its the fluctuation thats almost worse than the lower rate. Dash cam will be struggling, you switch to outside it shoots up etc
Macethy
June 6, 2013 at 10:26
1080p @60FPS on a racing game?
We been having it! (for years…on PC!)
Please tell me again how much more advanced these next-gen consoles are compared to a PC…
Hesperus Phosphorus
June 6, 2013 at 10:27
Does anyone seriously give a toss about Forza any more?!
Nick de Bruyne
June 6, 2013 at 10:33
Yes, actually. Forza 4 is and has been in the Xbox Live weekly top 20 most played titles list since its release.
Gareth L
June 6, 2013 at 10:38
As I’ve stated before, the Forza series is the only reason that I’d go for the Xbox One.
Skyblue
June 6, 2013 at 11:06
Been a fan since Forza 2. Played GT5 extensively as well and both games are very similar with regards to physics and handling but Forza 3 and 4 creamed GT5 in the presentation dept and had much smoother framerates. Enjoyed GT5’s DLC way more than Forza’s though.
Never purchased Horizon as I didn’t think I’d enjoy it as much as Burnout Paradise (open world aspect) but I would def look at the next Forza if M$ manage to sort their kak out eventually.
Nick de Bruyne
June 6, 2013 at 11:28
Horizon was cool, but with the dumbed down physics I found I got tired of it. It wasn’ as challenging as real Forza, but not as fun as Burnout. So I say either dump the physics altogether, or make them as challenging as F4
TiMsTeR1033
June 6, 2013 at 12:24
whats wrong with forza? forza 4 and 3 were great horizon I didnt bother to even pick up.
Craig Deubler
June 6, 2013 at 10:46
Yeah yeah, how about this time you make it so I don’t fall asleep in the menus.
Uberutang
June 6, 2013 at 12:18
DID GT5 not do that day 1 all ready?
Exalted Overlord Geoffrey Tim
June 6, 2013 at 12:31
“The game still renders at native 720p with 4x multi-sampling anti-aliasing (MSAA) when your XMB is set to 720p mode, while the resolution shifts to 1280×1080 with 2x quincunx (QAA) when the 1080p mode is engaged.”
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-gran-turismo-5-tech-analysis
No..not really.
Uberutang
June 6, 2013 at 13:31
So LANS lied to me? The bastard!
Nick de Bruyne
June 6, 2013 at 13:32
And again, GT5 is WAY below 60 fps