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Gran Turismo 6 takes driving to new heights

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With Gran Turismo 6 being released in early December and the new Forza racing onto the Xbox One it’s becoming increasingly difficult to decide which racing simulator we should pick up at retail. Well GT6 has just made that a little bit easier by raising the bar… all the way to the moon.

In this latest trailer just before the end you get to see the moon buggy bouncing around the moon and since this vehicle is listed in the official list of cars that will come with GT6 then it really does imply that we will be able to hold moon races, which sounds awesome.

Added to that is this other video that was released that showcases the amount of effort Polyphony has gone into to get the detail of the night sky perfect for those long endurance racing.

Honestly I can’t see the point in going into that much detail but hey if it floats your boat and the other game can’t do it then that’s a selling point right?

Added to that is the fact that Forza has revealed that the LaFerrari isn’t included in the base game and will be sold as DLC on launch which has gotten our old motorhead colleague a little hot under the collar.

But don’t forget that Forza and the Xbox One have those haptic triggers which apparently make the game the best thing since sliced biltong.

So which game are you going to get?

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Last Updated: November 5, 2013

166 Comments

  1. Admiral Chief Ninja

    November 5, 2013 at 13:06

    Header lulz.

    Oh, and also: None

    Reply

    • Alien Emperor Trevor

      November 5, 2013 at 13:12

      Let’s vote for Carmageddon instead.

      Reply

      • Admiral Chief Ninja

        November 5, 2013 at 13:12

        AMEN!

        Reply

      • NostalgicMossel

        November 5, 2013 at 13:18

        Splatter bonus!

        Reply

      • ToshZA

        November 5, 2013 at 13:27

        You win my vote for that.

        Reply

        • Scruff304

          November 5, 2013 at 14:12

          Cunning stunt bonus!
          I had to re-read that three times to make sure it came out right…

          Reply

      • RinceandRepeat

        November 5, 2013 at 13:29

        You have my vote, and agreeing with anything you say on principle is difficult.

        Reply

        • Alien Emperor Trevor

          November 5, 2013 at 13:39

          What’s so difficult about it? Do you like being wrong? Agree with me & you’ll never be wrong again.

          Reply

          • TiMsTeR1033

            November 5, 2013 at 13:40

            PAH! and the band played believe if you like!

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            November 5, 2013 at 13:43

            I sense doubt in my infallibility.

          • RinceandRepeat

            November 5, 2013 at 13:44

            I can imagine you and your candy outside schools of CoD fish saying this!

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            November 5, 2013 at 13:47

            You can? O_o What a “unique” imagination you have!

          • RinceandRepeat

            November 5, 2013 at 13:50

            Not really. You just need to ‘upgrade’ to a 720 😛

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            November 5, 2013 at 13:50

            I play on PC, that would be a downgrade 😀

          • RinceandRepeat

            November 5, 2013 at 13:57

            Joke.. MISSED.

          • TiMsTeR1033

            November 5, 2013 at 13:57

            very much so…

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            November 5, 2013 at 13:58

            Joke… deliberately misinterpreted 😛

          • Scruff304

            November 5, 2013 at 14:12

            One of us, one of us….

        • Unalighned John (JJ)

          November 5, 2013 at 13:40

          You know how long I’ve been waiting for you to change your handle to Rince and Repeat?

          Reply

          • RinceandRepeat

            November 5, 2013 at 13:42

            Haha! I actually started it with Rincethis, and then went to RinceandRepeat for about 3 months last year. This is #2 time 😉

          • Unalighned John (JJ)

            November 5, 2013 at 13:43

            Okay, fair enough. Haha. I wanted to do Uneyelined John, but wasn’t sure if everyone would get it. And Tim would enjoy it too much.

          • RinceandRepeat

            November 5, 2013 at 13:43

            And Tim would enjoy it too much. BWAHAHAHAHA

          • TiMsTeR1033

            November 5, 2013 at 13:43

            Whats this?? I heard my name!

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            November 5, 2013 at 13:43

            Tim likes his make-up jokes. Don’t know where he gets them all.

          • TiMsTeR1033

            November 5, 2013 at 13:44

            From your mama!

          • RinceandRepeat

            November 5, 2013 at 13:44

            BOOM! 😉

          • TiMsTeR1033

            November 5, 2013 at 13:44

            hehehe!

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            November 5, 2013 at 13:44

            Funnily enough that could be true. She was a beautician lol

          • Unalighned John (JJ)

            November 5, 2013 at 13:45

            Haha. She did my eyeliner for the pirate trip.

          • TiMsTeR1033

            November 5, 2013 at 13:45

            So you admit it now… the plot thickens..

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            November 5, 2013 at 13:45

            Too much base.

          • TiMsTeR1033

            November 5, 2013 at 13:46

            He did look a little pale..

          • Unalighned John (JJ)

            November 5, 2013 at 13:50

          • TiMsTeR1033

            November 5, 2013 at 13:51

            Cat caught your tongue Johnny boy?

          • Unalighned John (JJ)

            November 5, 2013 at 13:56

            I shouldn’t have brought up my ABSENCE of eyeliner.

          • TiMsTeR1033

            November 5, 2013 at 13:57

            I just kidding with you! YOU MY BROTHER IN CRIME!

          • Unalighned John (JJ)

            November 5, 2013 at 13:54

            No eyeliner. No makeup.

          • TiMsTeR1033

            November 5, 2013 at 13:54

            but on night out on the town?? hmmmm

          • Unalighned John (JJ)

            November 5, 2013 at 13:55

            Only if I’m going as a transvestite

          • TiMsTeR1033

            November 5, 2013 at 13:56

            Every Friday night…

          • Unalighned John (JJ)

            November 5, 2013 at 13:58

            Every second actually. I like to keep a weekend to myself every now and then

          • RinceandRepeat

            November 5, 2013 at 13:49

            Damn you! I wanted that!

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            November 5, 2013 at 13:50

            You can get eyeliner any time you want :/

          • RinceandRepeat

            November 5, 2013 at 13:50

            I wouldn’t know where from. Sounds like you do though.

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            November 5, 2013 at 13:51

            I do know – any shop with a make-up counter. And that’s why you’re #foreverSP!

          • RinceandRepeat

            November 5, 2013 at 13:52

            Hey bro, if you want to get all tarted up in make up to draw in the ‘right’ sort, that’s up to you. I won’t judge (starts judging immediately)

          • TiMsTeR1033

            November 5, 2013 at 13:54

            that said in a thick British accent! You forgot to add that!

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            November 5, 2013 at 13:54

            So now because I may wear make-up I’m suddenly a tart? HOW DARE YOU!

          • TiMsTeR1033

            November 5, 2013 at 13:55

            not may *when…

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            November 5, 2013 at 13:57

            No, it doesn’t make grammatical sense to replace may with when.

          • TiMsTeR1033

            November 5, 2013 at 13:59

            you meant to say ” So now because when I wear make-up”

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            November 5, 2013 at 14:03

            My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard :/

          • RinceandRepeat

            November 5, 2013 at 13:56

            Tart, meet @johnambitious:disqus *runs

          • Unalighned John (JJ)

            November 5, 2013 at 13:58

          • TiMsTeR1033

            November 5, 2013 at 14:00

            Did your lady like the eyeliner at least? seriously?

          • Unalighned John (JJ)

            November 5, 2013 at 14:03

            There was no eyeliner. Just the evil within coming out of my pores.

            Mmmm. Not sure about my lady though.

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            November 5, 2013 at 13:59

            But he’s not single. You tease 🙁

          • Unalighned John (JJ)

            November 5, 2013 at 14:00

            Hahaha

  2. Admiral Chief Ninja

    November 5, 2013 at 13:07

    Moon racing? I can dig it

    Reply

    • RinceandRepeat

      November 5, 2013 at 13:44

      I don’t know man. Seems rather damn silly in this game, a bit off the genre, no?

      Reply

      • TiMsTeR1033

        November 5, 2013 at 13:46

        What’s wrong with racing on the moon?

        Reply

        • RinceandRepeat

          November 5, 2013 at 13:48

          Nothing, if it’s Mass Effect. These are supposed to be ‘real’ games though. Just seems like they are adding it in just like CoD did with the dog.

          Reply

          • TiMsTeR1033

            November 5, 2013 at 13:50

            No the Aliens they added in! the dog is just like the fish AI…. A sales Gimmick.

          • RinceandRepeat

            November 5, 2013 at 13:51

            Eh? That is what I am saying, that driving on the moon in a game that is supposed to be a simulator is a gimmick.

          • TiMsTeR1033

            November 5, 2013 at 13:52

            Dude All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. Enough said.

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            November 5, 2013 at 13:53

            lol.

          • RinceandRepeat

            November 5, 2013 at 13:53

            I don’t know who this Jack is that everyone keeps going on about, but I will hunt him, I will find him, and I will introduce him to Jill.

          • TiMsTeR1033

            November 5, 2013 at 13:56

            Jack and jill went to the dairy… Jack pulled out his ………..

          • Unalighned John (JJ)

            November 5, 2013 at 14:01

            Fairy?

          • TiMsTeR1033

            November 5, 2013 at 14:02

            long and ……….

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            November 5, 2013 at 14:03

            airy?

          • Unalighned John (JJ)

            November 5, 2013 at 14:04

            scary

          • TiMsTeR1033

            November 5, 2013 at 14:06

            Yes Scary!

          • RinceandRepeat

            November 5, 2013 at 14:03

            Okay… 0-O

  3. Alien Emperor Trevor

    November 5, 2013 at 13:10

    I hope moon racing is real. I also hope the devs built giant ramps. I want to see someone ramp off the moon.

    Reply

    • Admiral Chief Ninja

      November 5, 2013 at 13:12

      Or ramp around it

      Reply

  4. Deano

    November 5, 2013 at 13:16

    This is a playstation fanboi hive, no doubt Gran Turismo will win, even thou Forza 5 is clearly the better driving/racer game.

    Reply

    • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

      November 5, 2013 at 13:18

      Nah, Project Gotham Racing was better than Forza 3 and 4, and in turn GT4 and 5 blew PGR out of the water. Thus, GT > Forza!

      Reply

      • Deano

        November 5, 2013 at 13:19

        okay.

        Reply

        • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

          November 5, 2013 at 13:24

          Deano are you still importing your xboner?

          Reply

          • Unalighned John (JJ)

            November 5, 2013 at 13:32

            There’s something very odd about your comment.

          • TiMsTeR1033

            November 5, 2013 at 13:40

            He needs to import a boner! nothing wrong with that statement if you are a BOT!

          • Unalighned John (JJ)

            November 5, 2013 at 13:41

            Isn’t that kind of what you do when you watch internet porn?

          • TiMsTeR1033

            November 5, 2013 at 13:43

            huh?

          • Deano

            November 5, 2013 at 13:59

            we know what you do TiMsTer, we know….

          • TiMsTeR1033

            November 5, 2013 at 14:01

            I cant help my Tinkie addiction!

          • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

            November 5, 2013 at 15:48

            Tellytubbies? You’re into Tinkie-winky? 😮

          • Deano

            November 5, 2013 at 13:56

            Depends on if I hear of a earlier launch here. but yes I still plan on getting both a PS4 – DLNA and Xbone.
            If all I play on the Xbone 720 is Titanfall I will be a happy man!

      • Unalighned John (JJ)

        November 5, 2013 at 13:31

        PGR is flippen cool.
        But I really do think GT needs something new and fresh instead of just more content each time. I love GT, make no mistake, but Forza is looking better for me at this stage.

        Reply

    • Kromas

      November 5, 2013 at 13:20

      I prefer wacky wheels to both of those titles.

      Reply

      • Brady miaau

        November 5, 2013 at 13:55

        well, I still prefer Iron Man to all THREE those titles!

        Reply

        • Deano

          November 5, 2013 at 13:56

          you win!

          Reply

        • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

          November 5, 2013 at 13:57

          Batman is better than Iron Man! Iron man is just some rich slob in a robot suit.

          Reply

          • RinceandRepeat

            November 5, 2013 at 13:57

            Dude, you should see the new Thor! SOOO Much awesome!

          • Unalighned John (JJ)

            November 5, 2013 at 14:02

            It’s looking great. Had a meeting with Marvel, all the shoots they had to show are awesome.

          • RinceandRepeat

            November 5, 2013 at 14:06

            Yeah man. I watched it last night, was blown away!

          • Unalighned John (JJ)

            November 5, 2013 at 14:07

            Don’t hate me, but I like Captain America and can’t wait for Winter Soldier.

          • TiMsTeR1033

            November 5, 2013 at 14:07

            Capin America was OKAY…..

          • Unalighned John (JJ)

            November 5, 2013 at 14:08

            Watch me stir up the hornets nest…
            I all honesty. TDKR was barely okay.

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            November 5, 2013 at 14:09

            MoS was way better.

          • Unalighned John (JJ)

            November 5, 2013 at 14:10

            Watched it the weekend. Boy was I impressed. Much better.

          • TiMsTeR1033

            November 5, 2013 at 14:12

            Mos?

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            November 5, 2013 at 14:15

            Man of Steel

          • TiMsTeR1033

            November 5, 2013 at 14:16

            KAK MOVIE!

          • Unalighned John (JJ)

            November 5, 2013 at 14:17

            Shut up your face!

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            November 5, 2013 at 14:17

            I tried riling up the hornet’s nest & all I got was the flea circus. :/

          • TiMsTeR1033

            November 5, 2013 at 14:09

            TDKR??

          • Unalighned John (JJ)

            November 5, 2013 at 14:10

            The Dark Knight Rises.

          • TiMsTeR1033

            November 5, 2013 at 14:12

            I still need to see that!

          • TiMsTeR1033

            November 5, 2013 at 14:04

            Tell me this… Is he a faithful man to his lady!

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            November 5, 2013 at 14:04

            I heard he swings his big hammer around.

          • Unalighned John (JJ)

            November 5, 2013 at 14:05

            You planning on cutting in? I have to tell you though, his hammer is probably bigger than yours.

          • TiMsTeR1033

            November 5, 2013 at 14:07

            Probably yeah…. Crap *goes back to drawing board*

          • RinceandRepeat

            November 5, 2013 at 14:07

            I’m not giving anything away man!

          • TiMsTeR1033

            November 5, 2013 at 14:08

            okay fine! out of 5 popcorns how many you give it?

          • RinceandRepeat

            November 5, 2013 at 14:08

            SIX

          • TiMsTeR1033

            November 5, 2013 at 14:09

            That good???

          • Brady miaau

            November 5, 2013 at 14:38

            Um. Guys.

            Iron Man was a racing game, you went around in small tracks in little dinky toy cars.

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_%27Ironman%27_Stewart%27s_Super_Off_Road

            For sheer fun, that was the bomb. Or something.

      • Unalighned John (JJ)

        November 5, 2013 at 13:56

        Big Red Racing

        Reply

        • TiMsTeR1033

          November 5, 2013 at 14:03

          HELL YEAH!

          Reply

    • Mark Treloar

      November 5, 2013 at 13:37

      Based on the fact that you have played both?

      Reply

      • Deano

        November 5, 2013 at 13:53

        I have my source’s.

        Reply

        • Spathi

          November 5, 2013 at 14:07

          Your source’s what?

          Reply

          • Unalighned John (JJ)

            November 5, 2013 at 14:08

            Maybe he took his source’s lunch

          • Deano

            November 5, 2013 at 14:23

            My two favourite are Cheddermelt and Sweet chilli.

          • Spathi

            November 5, 2013 at 14:31

            Hahha, well played…

    • Exalted Overlord Geoffrey Tim

      November 5, 2013 at 14:03

      Mario Kart 8 is the best next gen driving game.

      Reply

      • TiMsTeR1033

        November 5, 2013 at 14:08

        For children….

        Reply

  5. Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

    November 5, 2013 at 13:17

    The weird thing is, even though GT6 is heading to PS3, it’s still blows Forza 5 away!

    Reply

  6. ToshZA

    November 5, 2013 at 13:27

    Where’s the Star Wars Pod Racer option? I’d pick that one.

    Reply

  7. Unalighned John (JJ)

    November 5, 2013 at 13:29

    I like GT5 and will probably get GT6 while it’s available on PS3

    Reply

    • TiMsTeR1033

      November 5, 2013 at 13:35

      So there is a game you will play on ps3! GOOD MAN!

      Reply

      • Unalighned John (JJ)

        November 5, 2013 at 13:38

        Hehehe. There is yes! Sadly the other is FF XIII.

        Reply

        • TiMsTeR1033

          November 5, 2013 at 13:38

          Should be GTA V!

          Reply

          • Unalighned John (JJ)

            November 5, 2013 at 13:39

            I can get four games on Steam for the price of GTA V, still living in hope for that pc version. If it doesn’t come then I shall see you on GTA V on console.
            Wait wait…you have an Xbox, don’t you?

          • TiMsTeR1033

            November 5, 2013 at 13:41

            Actually you wont, I have Xbox 360…

          • Unalighned John (JJ)

            November 5, 2013 at 13:41

            Dammit.

          • TiMsTeR1033

            November 5, 2013 at 13:42

            I KNOW! I was gonna ride you over with a bike and do a burnout on your face! hahaha

          • Unalighned John (JJ)

            November 5, 2013 at 13:44

            I can always just buy a 360 just so that I can get GTA V to play with you (if I had money just lying around my house)

          • TiMsTeR1033

            November 5, 2013 at 13:47

            Can always give you my old console and you give me money and I’ll get a new one! lol

          • Unalighned John (JJ)

            November 5, 2013 at 13:49

            NO!

          • Spathi

            November 5, 2013 at 14:18

            But you can buy GTA V 2nd hand on console for R 450 and sell it a month or two later for R 300! BARGAIN!!!!

          • Unalighned John (JJ)

            November 5, 2013 at 14:21

            Sounds like a bargain. But that’s still two or three Steam games.
            Might consider it, but playing a game like GTA with a controller isn’t something I enjoy doing very much. I have what you call retarded thumbs.

          • Spathi

            November 5, 2013 at 14:24

            But are any of those Steam games GTA V?

            I have never played a GTA on console so have no idea how it controls. I’m starting to come right with shooters after 4 years of having a console though! WHOOOOT!!

          • Unalighned John (JJ)

            November 5, 2013 at 14:26

            Haha. That’s true. Just bought Sleeping Dogs for R50 the other day though, and loving it.
            GTA V is VERY VERY alluring though.

  8. MacDoodle

    November 5, 2013 at 13:29

    Who needs haptic triggers when u got a g27?

    Reply

  9. Stephen Snook

    November 5, 2013 at 13:29

    I, am, pumped.

    Reply

  10. TiMsTeR1033

    November 5, 2013 at 13:38

    I won’t lie that day and night trailer is IMPRESSIVE! Makes me want a PS3 so bad!

    Reply

  11. lans

    November 5, 2013 at 13:48

    Seriously Guys, this is just CLASS, Im glad forza has decided to humble themselves, because there is no one that can convey the feelings and raw emotion of being a Gran turismo FAN. Can not wait to sink my teeth into this game. And the Night racing in Nascar looks fantastic. The only thing GT is missing now for next generation is a massive improvement to the weather system, trackside details, Massive improvement to mesh and lightning models, 100% premium models. As well as a more convincing crash model. Sound is horrendous and is probably the last piece of the puzzle needed before GT can attain the title of true driving simulator……well according to me.

    Reply

    • Nick de Bruyne

      November 5, 2013 at 14:06

      Damn Lans, that comment nearly brought a tear to my eye. I’m so stoked for this game! Does anyone know of any good wheel setups that will work for PS3 but also be compatible ahead for PS4 now? I’m stuck in a crappy spot…

      Reply

      • Alex [SS] PsyChoPanthis

        November 5, 2013 at 14:09

        Logitech G27 wheel is your best bet and as far as i know Sony have said all current wheels will be compatible. Ive only got a driving force pro, but my mate has the G27 and im surprised i havnt murdered him for it yet…

        Reply

        • Nick de Bruyne

          November 5, 2013 at 14:12

          Hmm wow OK thanks, Ill take a look into it. Im planning to move to a house soon, so Ill finally have space again for a wheel setup. Thats why for now that MS Speed Wheel has been such a Godsend. Its not as good as a full wheel, but at least it has 1to1 analog steering, which makes a MASSIVE difference compared to a controller setup that kinda turns at a set speed. Too bad something liek that isn’t available for PS3 (or does it? DANNN DANNN DAHHHHHH)

          Reply

          • SPDHUNTER

            November 5, 2013 at 14:31

            Definitely get a g27 if you can. There are other wheels like Fanatec but they cost way more in our market.

            I don’t touch a racing game without using my g27 and over the last 3 years have not had a single problem. 6-speed shifter, heel-toe down shifting works perfectly.

            Only problem, it’s not compatible with X360 and Xbox One if you wanted to use it on those consoles. (Beyond me why MS has not corrected this).

          • Spathi

            November 5, 2013 at 14:52

            A G25 will also do if you can get one in a good condition for a good price!

            Yeah, the main reason I don’t play Forza (because it is a awesome game) is because of the lack of support for proper wheels (Fanatec aside).

          • MacDoodle

            November 5, 2013 at 15:49

            You won’t be disappointed with the g27 especially if you hook up to a Playseat, I paid R3k for mine back in 09, but a mate bought it for me in HK, awesome feedback and accuracy only downside is that its a bit noisy

      • lans

        November 5, 2013 at 14:45

        Gonna wait it out, and see what wheels GT6 supports, but save bet would be a G27. Hopefully Kaz and Logitech team up for another DFGT revision for GT7, as while the current wheel is adequate i feel that it is in need for an update.

        Reply

  12. oVg

    November 5, 2013 at 13:57

    I bet half the game is released before the 9 day one updates.

    Reply

  13. Nick de Bruyne

    November 5, 2013 at 13:57

    Why can’t I vote both!!?

    Reply

  14. Devourer of Small Bunnies

    November 5, 2013 at 14:25

    Well, I’d theoretically get GT6. ^IF^ I buy next gen.

    Reply

    • Mark Treloar

      November 5, 2013 at 16:06

      Also available on PS3

      Reply

      • Devourer of Small Bunnies

        November 6, 2013 at 09:23

        Guess you got a point there…

        Reply

  15. lans

    November 5, 2013 at 15:15

    Here is a trailer to amp you guys for this gaming out in just a few short days XD……Ridge Racer Type music + GT5 = woot!

    Reply

  16. lans

    November 5, 2013 at 15:16

  17. CypherGate

    November 5, 2013 at 15:42

    Forza 5 for the win. GT6 sounds cool, but nah. I enjoy Forza a lot more than GT. Besides moon races? Thats not a deal breaker for me.

    Reply

  18. Brian Murphy

    November 7, 2013 at 09:05

    “Honestly I can’t see the point in going into that much detail but hey if it floats your boat and the other game can’t do it then that’s a selling point right?”

    You put the right sky in there, or Neil Degrasse Tyson will come fuck you up. He harassed James Cameron until they made the night sky that Jack/What’s her face were looking at after the Titanic sunk (spoiler alert), reflect the actual sky that was there at the exact moment the Titanic went down (originally, they used the wrong sky, AND mirrored half of it…Tyson was extremely annoyed at this lol).

    And instead of stupid, useless car bling, adding environment detail is a much more appropriate use of the developers time, imo.

    Reply

  19. Gr8_Balls_o_Fire

    November 8, 2013 at 08:52

    If Polyphony paid attention to the sound, and weren’t so lazy with their “standard and Premium” cars, it would kick Forza ass.

    The sound of a car is integral to the enjoyment felt when belting it around, even in videogames. It’s an essential aspect to get right.

    Until Polyphony sort these things out, I will be sticking with Forza.

    On another note, my PS3 doesn’t work, it gives me this flashing red/yellow light (i can’t remember) and the shop I went to to fix it said there’s no guarantee the fix will work.. For R500!

    Worth it? Or should I wait for PS4..? Coz I really want to play GoW:A and Last of Us.. And GT6 IF they get it right.. What other great PS3 games are out/coming soon?

    Reply

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