Kazunori Yamauchi, head of Polyphony Digital and creator of the Gran Turismo series has been playing competitors games and it seems that he isn’t very impressed.
In a recent interview with Eurogamer, Yamauchi was asked if he was thinking about implementing any of the ideas or features that he has seen in other games since Gran Turismo 4 released in 2004.
To this, he had the following to say;
“Actually I find it difficult to play the other games in more than five minutes at a time. The game’s low level of quality really shines through in the other games and I can not hold them out!”
Now, with all due respect to one my industry heroes , are you friggin’ kidding me? How could you possibly even have a concept of what a standard in quality is supposed to be when you have been developing a game for 6 years at the cost of roughly $60,000,000.00?
I can’t fully believe that he has the nerve to say that competitors games are “low quality” when he is sitting what seems to be an unlimited budget and a when-it’s-done timeframe.
I looked up other racing titles that are out there and while some of them aren’t direct “sim” competitors, they are still driving games, so I checked them out. I am sure I have missed a few big ones, but just bare with me or add them in the comments if you feel the need.
Here’s how many games have come from each competitor series since the release of Gran Turismo 4 (please note: I haven’t included titles that came out the same year as GT4)
Racing Series Titles Released Since 2004
- Forza Motorsport: 3 titles
- Need for Speed: 6 titles
- Project Gotham Racing: 2 titles
- Burnout: 4 titles
- Codemaster’s Race Driver: 2 titles
A lot of these series had a game also release in 2004 as well, not to mention that most of them are working on new titles that will release in the 2010-2011 period.
I see what he is going on about, I mean, the Need for Speed series has done very little to impress me over the last couple of years, especially with regards to their actual street racing series with titles such as Underground being nothing short of horrendous.
Of course, the real beef must be with Forza Motorsport. Is the Forza Motorsport series better than the Gran Turismo series? I don’t know, heck, I honestly don’t care. The truth of the matter is that it’s a worthy rival, and there have been 3, count them, 3 titles released since Gran Turismo 4 released in 2004.
Since the release of it’s first title, the Forza Motorsport series has sold 7 million copies with the first selling 1 million, the second selling 4 million and the third selling 2 million copies in it’s first couple of months.
It isn’t all about sales though, and we all know it. Is Gran Turismo 5 really worth the wait? Many would say that it is, but you have to ask yourself why Polyphony Digital is taking that long.
The truth is that the Gran Turismo series has been fantastic from the very beginning and now enjoys incredible brand recognition and a huge fanbase but that same fanbase has been left waiting for 6 years. What good is your game if people aren’t playing it?
I nearly lost all excitement for Gran Turismo 5 over the years, I just got tired of waiting. Now that it’s nearly time for it’s release I am excited once again at the idea of getting my hands on the game.
I think the game is going to be great, but I already know that unlike other titles, once this game is released, I will be able to enjoy it, but will have to try and get the most out of it because the next one is going to be so very far away.
I leave you with one rather disturbing thought.
At the current rate of development, Gran Turismo 6 may only see the light of day in 2016-2017. That pretty much means that any of you out there who have recently become a parent to a newborn baby, may very well be playing the next Gran Turismo title in the same year that your little bundle of joy is getting ready to go to primary school.
If you have any thoughts, leave a comment below.
Last Updated: February 15, 2010
darthdad
February 15, 2010 at 08:48
I’m a huge GT fan, but this wait is beyond a joke.
It better kick some serious ass when it gets released!
I agree with him about the competition though…….. :ninja:
Fred
February 15, 2010 at 08:56
They will have to realease Gt5 Prologue 2 in the mean time to make some money to fund the developers.
easy
February 15, 2010 at 08:57
i don’t understand what your point is? you almost make it out that it’s pd’s civic duty to accommodate what you feel is an acceptable time frame for release.
i’ve also been waiting for this game for many years, but my life does not revolve around game releases. not to say i don’t get excited about.
and does it really matter is a game has a 20yr dev cycle? does it mean it will be crap? people bang on about duke nukem being delayed… so what! if it never sees the light of day , gaming wont suddenly evaporate (which is kinda evident). and if it does get released, awesome news for all gamers and fans of the franchise.
there are too many good games out there to get hung up on a few anticipated titles.
Evan
February 15, 2010 at 10:06
Agreed. This was really wasting time to even think about, never mind actually write about.
Shame Nick, keep up this level and you’ll never make it out of this seedy blog. You’ll be trapped forever.
Regardless of the delay, and the accompanying negative press that blogs like this use to gain their monthly quota of hits, GT will still be an excellent game. Sorry xbots, its just the way it is, now go and play your excellent Mass Effect 2 while their is still some life left in your console.
RSA-Ace
February 15, 2010 at 08:59
I know I mentioned this before but PD did release 2 other games between GT4 and now.
Is 6 years development time really long? I would be very interested in an article about game development time. (obviously developing for a new platform would increase dev time – Squeenix said an extra 1.5 years because of the PS3)
Al360
February 15, 2010 at 09:27
sounds like duke nukem all over again
SlippyMadFrog
February 15, 2010 at 10:03
Every second GT development is just burning away at Sony’s pockets. Yamauchi being a dick doesn’t help their cause either. They will probably recoup losses because GT will sell like crazy anyway.
RSA-Ace
February 15, 2010 at 10:10
It was already mentioned that GT5 Prologue basically paid for GT5.
I think it worked out to earning over $50 million. So I really don’t think it’s burning holes in Sony’s pockets.
SlippyMadFrog
February 15, 2010 at 16:40
GT: prologue sold 4.6 million, insane!
RSA-Ace
February 16, 2010 at 07:06
Yeah and if PD make $15 per disc then that’s $69000000
John Kickass
February 15, 2010 at 10:04
Gran Turismo 5 will be perfect. Who cares if it took years to make. Won’t need another Gran Turismo for a while after 5 is released.
Evan
February 15, 2010 at 10:10
Of course it will be perfect, and thats what scares the writers and patrons on this blog. Because GT will show you that Forza was just smoke and mirrors.
GT is, and always be the king. Klaar.
LazySAGamer
February 15, 2010 at 10:19
and if GT5 isn’t the bee’s knees then there will always be GT6 to look forward to.
What horrifies me is that you aren’t even being sarcastic in your comments. You really truly deeply believe the game will be perfect. So much so that you will ignore any possible issues when it finally gets released.
Have you met lans?
Evan
February 15, 2010 at 11:30
Nope, certainly wont ignore the issues. But you on the other hand will sit down with a pen and paper, write all the flaws down, then create a blog post listing all of them and how Sony and PD has shafted us. Or better yet, you will get one of your little bloggers to do it for you 😉 Must suck to know how transparent and false you really are. :ninja:
LazySAGamer
February 15, 2010 at 12:05
Yeah I cry myself to sleep at night
SlippyMadFrog
February 15, 2010 at 13:40
“But you on the other hand will sit down with a pen and paper, write all the flaws down, then create a blog post listing all of them and how Sony and PD has shafted us.”
And you and the rest of the Sony #1 fan club (you and lans) will rush in and make a big scene like the predictable lemmings you are and ignore all the negative MS articles writen in the past by lazy gamer and accuse him of being a MS fanboy.
There are 2 types of articles that get attention on LG -> Good news for MS and bad news for Sony, the rest is ignored.
mitas
February 16, 2010 at 10:39
shouldn gamers unite ? for heavens sake we talking about gt5 here? we should unite behind the fact that sony screwwed us a lil with B/C so the real reason why everyone is complaing is that we could not play our beloved GT4 on our ps3 ….
Milesh Bhana ZA
February 15, 2010 at 10:28
i get the whole Quality over quantity approach, so they can take their time. (HL2 took 6 years to make!) Just don’t give any release dates then break them.
But i find it hard to believe that it’ll be THAT much better than Forza 3. I guess we’ll have to see in November (this year right?)
RSA-Ace
February 15, 2010 at 10:39
It has been delayed once – really not a big deal.
lans
February 15, 2010 at 10:35
Gran Turismo 5
Patience meets perfection.
http://www.gtpla.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/gt5-vs-prologue-e1266183832366.jpg
These are screens of the Updated Fuji Speedway track for the Gt Academy Final Round 2, there are massively improved textures, and speculation of debris as well
Cruiz Dwyer
February 15, 2010 at 10:54
Have you seen the new leaked footage?
Grass textures looks far greater now, even including weeds and dandelions to be showcased along the tack. Track depth is also greater.
The newer build of GT5 looks fantastic and I think the late worldwide release for 2010 was a good move.
secko
February 15, 2010 at 10:54
the quote u got was wen GT4 came out ya mongrel not in any “recent” interview. man its like these lamos r diggiin for anything.
lans
February 15, 2010 at 11:18
Face it Forza 1,2,3 have been released since gt4 with no competition, the world was their oyster, but they’re still an also ran, im sure toca race driver is a more profitable and succesful franchise
There has been loads of Forza Marketing, and they have a huge work force larger than polyphony’s but they really are not selling enough to justify so much TLC, i really hope MS concentrates On PGR because Forza 3 is Dead to me. Once i bought a GT Driving Force wheel and downloaded GT Academy. GT 5 is the only game, where i can race over 100 laps on the same track on a time trial, and feel awesome, all the times when i managed to save the car from spinning out or managing massive understeer all of those battles with ghost cars, and experiencing the GT community grow every day.
i love Racing Games My Favorite Ones are as follows from best to Worst
Gt3
GT5 Prologue
GT1
GT2
Colin Mcrae Series not Dirt!
Toca Race Care Driver 1,2,3
GT4
Race On
Grid
Wipeout
MotorStorm
GT5 is already going to be on top of the list, it just needs to be released.
Lazygamer people are not pissed gt5 is delayed even though you wish that people must protest and not buy gt5 and be angry and diss it incessantly and should rather buy forza 3. People are not always fooled, people can see GT5 is the second coming of racing simulators, people who dont even like racing car games want to buy GT5 and there’s nothing you can do or say, no matter how much MS sponsors you and your kroonies
and i do try yo like forza 3 but everytime i try a part of my soul dies, i either end up passed out or my AI driver is driving for me.
The Truth Hurts
Fox1
February 15, 2010 at 11:30
PGR is an arcade racer :whistle:
lans
February 15, 2010 at 11:45
:alien: PGR is a quality title, that could benefit greatly from a sim quality reboot, i really enjoy PGR and if they can get simulation physics, and retain their cockpit intensity then im sure that will be a 3million plus seller, PGR is just a good game, with no hype or massive PR bullkaka
WitWolfyZA
February 15, 2010 at 11:28
Delayed or not i pre-ordered it like 3 weeks ago, now all we can do is wait… in the mean while Need For Speed shift will keep me busy full fulling the empty racing void
lans
February 15, 2010 at 12:06
A thought just crossed my mind, all of these scathing reports on how long gt 5 is taking! im almost 100% certain lazygamer intends to penalise gt5 for taking so long, i hope they also penalise Alan Wake, Splinter Cell since they’ve taken almost as long if not longer.
ihave yet to hear lazygamer bitch about Alan Wake, Splinter Cell Too human, which have been actually delayed wayyyy more often.
SlippyMadFrog
February 15, 2010 at 13:29
If you were in front of me I’d give you a slap, maybe you would snap out of it
http://www.lazygamer.co.za/xbox-360/amazon-leaks-alan-wake-release-date/
“Alan Wake is fast becoming the Duke Nukem of the Xbox 360 world.”
http://www.lazygamer.co.za/xbox-360/splinter-cell-conviction-delayed-along-with-r-u-s-e/
http://www.lazygamer.co.za/xbox-360/splinter-cell-conviction-delayed-we-know-why/
“The game isn’t working and needs more polishing”
Don’t you ever get tired of being so pathetic?
SlippyMadFrog
February 15, 2010 at 13:34
WTF? I just posted a list of articles from LG clearly detailing the delays in Splinter Cell and Alan Wake but it dissapeared.
Anyway, quit playing the pathetic loser victim and do a search, you will see that all delays are discussed and criticized.
Geoff
February 15, 2010 at 13:41
Sorry – Your comment got caught by our industrious spam filter. Unspammed!
RSA-Ace
February 15, 2010 at 13:55
Not good when your spam filter starts filtering lazygamer.co.za links!
Geoff
February 15, 2010 at 14:01
Not exactly beneficial, no – But we have been getting *bombarded* with spam of late.
easy
February 15, 2010 at 14:08
the spam filter is totally fubar’d… way too many spammified comments coming through of late.
:sleeping:
SlippyMadFrog
February 15, 2010 at 13:43
nevermind, it’s back
lans
February 15, 2010 at 13:51
When it was released a few months ago, Forza Motorsport 3 gathered a bounty of enthusiastic reviews and over-90 high scores that seemed to seal the success of the third installment of the Microsoft-powered franchise. The recent announcement of two millions copies sold seems to confirm such success, but reality is a little less shiny.
The online community of the game is rapidly dwindling and more and more tuning and painting garages (the true heart of such community) are closing down shop, admitting defeat.
Last Friday evening at 9 PM EST (one of the busiest times in the week for online gaming), public lobbies for Forza 3 had a total of 1463 players. Sunday afternoon, at the time of this article’s writing, the number is only slightly higher, with 1752 players online. Even considering a sizable amount of gamers “hidden” in private lobbies, with two millions copies in the gamers’ homes, one would expect such numbers to be much, much higher.
Less than the 0.1% of the game’s player base online during the most busy parts of the week is indeed a pretty discouraging percentage. The numbers are pretty much comparable to the players of Forza Motorsport 2 during the last, quite dead, days of it’s lifespan, more than two years after the release of the game. And Forza Motorsport 3 has been released less than four months ago.
How to explain such saddening data when the game sold a solid two millions copies and got so many high scores (Metacritic average 92, with a long list of 100’s)?
lans
February 15, 2010 at 13:51
Gaming “journalists” normally only scratch the surface of a game, playing for a few hours before writing their articles. It happens quite often that such few hours aren’t nearly sufficient to truly understand the solidity of a title, and that, partly, what happened with Forza Mortorsport 3.
One has to wonder how much Dale North of Destructoid or Tom Orry of Videogamer.com actually played Forza 3 before writing their review, or how much they know about cars, driving and racing in order to judge a racing simulation with extremely enthusiastic terms like “best”, “flawless” or “masterpiece”.
Those “journalist” very probably opened their nice review copy, loaded it on their Xbox 360, played it for a short while, saw a lot of extremely shiny car porn and happily awarded a full score.
Hard not to understand them, to be honest. As a “car porn” game Forza 3 is actually great, if not exceptional, and welcomes the gamer (and especially the gaming journalist in a rush) with a lot of shiny pimped rides and chrome wheels, factor further enhanced by the endless possibility of the honestly masterful car painter (that should really be a feature in ANY racing game, hands down).
It’s when you start to analyze the game as a racing simulator, and especially an online one, that the shiny surface starts to fall apart.
lans
February 15, 2010 at 13:52
Dan Greenwalt and company really puffed their collective chest in praising their physics engine and the realistic handling of their cars. The problem is that such realism often falls short. A clear example is the behavior of rear-wheel drive cars.
In reality and in most racing simulators, driving high-end RWD cars at top speed is very difficult to master, especially because of sudden over steer when giving throttle harshly during a corner as well as in the opposite case, when releasing the throttle too suddenly (lift-off over steer).
Even in un-tuned (and as such unbalanced) cars the latter is totally non-existent, while the first basically happens in racing rated cars, and even then it’s easily controllable. Even without driving assists.
Either the physics engine completely forgets about the traction of the car and the position of the engine, and as such it sucks, or Turn 10 took the arbitrary decision to make RWD cars much easier to drive than in reality, hence throwing realism to the bushes in order to make the game more “accessible”.
The worst part is that RWD cars are normally hard to master rides, but once mastered, they pay dividends (tighter turning, better braking and so forth, making them solid choices or even mandatory in real racing conditions). In Forza Motorsport 3 not only RWD’s disadvantages (that can be overcome with driving skill) are flattened, but their advantages are removed from the picture as well. The effect, paired with the evident advantages of AWD (all wheel drive) cars simply results in AWD dominating the racing scene completely and without question. The gap in performance is simply enormous and absolutely against any notion of realism. It’s so evident that that Turn 10 has been forced (instead of correcting the problem) to create separate online lobbies for RWD fans to let them compete between themselves without being completely humiliated.
lans
February 15, 2010 at 13:52
The damage engine itself is just as flawed. Turn 10’s very generic pre-release promises of absolute realism built incredible expectations. In the end we have exactly the same pre-calculated damage system we got with Forza 2, with the aforementioned flawed flip-overs added on top of it. There’s no deformation of the car’s chassis like in even the slightest real-life crash. The engine simply applies a “generic” damage to a very generic area (or multiple generic areas) of the car, that might or might have not been involved in the crash. Someone hits you slightly on your right door? The whole right side of your car will be covered in bumps and scratches like someone had too much fun with an hammer. You are involved in a gruesome multi-car crash that had you flip over several time and end against a barrier with a force that would have turned a real ride in a pile of junk metal? You’ll lose your bumpers and spoiler, and the rest of the car will be covered in bumps and scratches very similar to those of the case described above.
This, of course, when the engine even manage to register hits in the right area of the car. I can’t count the times in which I’ve been hit head on in the rear of my car, and the engine actually damaged only the sides. So realistic…
While quite serious, especially given how much Greenwalt and company boasted before the release, those flaws are just the tip of the iceberg. The worst problems are found in the online gameplay, which is arguably one of the most important areas of the game to ensure brand loyalty and longevity, especially in an online-oriented community like the Xbox 360 one.
lans
February 15, 2010 at 13:53
The worst flaw, though, has yet to come, and is truly game breaking. The PI system (the system that ranks the cars in different classes according to their potential, in order to put racers in different cars on a semi-even playing field) works well on paper, but to work well in reality it requires a nearly flawless implementation. The cars with exactly the same PI values need to be equally competitive to guarantee a level playing field, especially given that the hoppers don’t allow the player to restrict the make/model of the cars on the circuit.
Unfortunately the PI system is radically flawed. Some cars are so radically more powerful and simply better than the others in their own class that they have become the perfect choice for the cheesy gamer in order to dominate. They are the infamous “leaderboard cars”, because no other car with the same PI (which means theoretically the same abilities in a race) can compete with them.
The problem is quite evident when you go and look at the actual leaderboards. Let’s take the Maple Valley track as an example:
At the moment of the writing of this article, in class F I scrolled down to 2500th place in the list before I got bored and until then the cars used were all VolksWagen Golf GTi Mk2. Depressing to say the least. Mind you, I don’t know how much longer the ling of VWs went, I couldn’t be bothered searching further.
Moving to class E, the VW Golf is still dominating solidly with a few sparse Celica and Eclipse. But still, it’s a complete domination of 3 cars between a lot.
Class D is completely dominated by ’03 Celica, with a few sparse Civic and WRX. Again, three cars dominating, with one being the almost absolute dominant.
Class C is just a no more mixed. Celica and Subaru WRX dominate pretty evenly, with some sparse Audi S5. Three cars.
Class B is back to disastrous (not that E, D and C were much better) with the WRX dominating squarely, with a few very lonely S5 mixed in. Two cars.
Class A is the best so far, with WRX, Ferrari F50, Murcielago LP640, S5 and Porsche 997 RS splitting the cake pretty evenly. It’s still 5 cars between a couple hundred eligible ones though.
Class S is complete disaster again, the list is completely and exclusively filled by Dodge Viper ’08, with a dominance comparable to the Golf in class F
Class R3 is just as depressing, with the Mazda B09/86 destroying everything else like they didn’t exist. the same happens in Class R2, where the Mazda is the sole survivor… two whole classes dominated by the same car…
Class R1 completes the picture with the RS Spyder dominating basically uncontested, with very few Audi R15 TDI that can be spotted crying for help in the middle.
If we count that the game has 400 cars, and that with tuning and parts all of them can be brought to the same PI, means that less than the 4% of the whole car porn catalog of the game has any actual utility in a race if one wants to win.
lans
February 15, 2010 at 13:53
Add to what already listed a quite sizable number of semi-game-breaking bugs and glitches, and you have a desolating scenario in which only the most dedicated and hardcore can survive, fully explaining the abysmal numbers of people left in the community, and the many, many people that are simply giving up hope and leaving to games that they can finally enjoy.
The shameful boasting by Dan Greenwalt and some of his subordinates got us to grow incredible expectations for the game, and not even half of those expectations have been fulfilled.
Of course many people went to the official forums to complain, show their disappointment, and encourage Turn 10 to take steps to solve the problems, but instead of humbly doing so, Microsoft instructed the moderators to lock or delete every complaint, trying to clumsily hide them in two quite hidden “official problems and suggestions” thread, dropping an almost insulting post that recites “Over the last few months, general discussion has become an unfriendly place for new users, this is not something we want, nor should you. We know you are as passionate about the Forza franchise as we are and you wish to tell us how to improve your experience. Creating thread after thread discussing issues that have been covered or responded to has created a negative vibe on these forums”.
Let me paraphrase that: “Since so many of you guys dare to criticize the obvious flaws of the game, instead of bending over and thanking us for magnanimously delivering our obviously flawed game, we’re shutting you up. We don’t want people to read what you write, because if they did they’d notice that the high-scoring reviews are completely skewed and would think twice before buying the game. Thank you for your patronage and money, now shut the hell up. Maybe we’ll fix some of the problems at our best convenience. Maybe.”
This, of course, created further malcontent between even the most dedicated fans, that felt that their legitimate complaints not only went unanswered, but were silenced as well in the name of tricking more people into thinking that the game actually reflected the high scores it got from the press.
lans
February 15, 2010 at 13:54
The final blow comes from Turn 10’s DLC policy. They already released multiple DLCs to increase their revenue, while very little of the game’s initial flaws have even been looked into. The latest DLC pack, the Nurburgring F1 circuit has been especially criticized due to a poor quality, not to mention the fact that it hasn’t been inserted in the hoppers and doesn’t have any offline events. It’s basically a quite costly (400 MS points) dead track in the hard disk of most people that can be used mostly for hot lapping.
The situation is made worse by the announcement that Turn 10 will release a DLC pack every month. With such a close release schedule, people definitely wonder how and when they’ll even find the time to work on some extremely needed fixes.
Unfortunately the whole scenario is very very dire. Most of the reviews proved to be at least partly rushed, as the “journalists” were blinded by the shiny car porn, ignoring the problems that were laying in hiding under the thin surface.
Don’t get me wrong, Forza 3 is a good game, and hopefully will keep me and others at least partly busy until something better hits the market, but despite the pre-release boastful declarations of superiority, it’s by no means “definitive”. Quite a few lessons are there to be learned, by the developer, by the press and by the gamers.
lans
February 15, 2010 at 13:54
Sorry for the walls of text, i just needed to return balance to the force
RSA-Ace
February 15, 2010 at 13:58
What relevance is that to the article?
lans
February 15, 2010 at 14:02
Its quite relevant actually, this review of forza is exactly the reason why Gt5 has taken 6 years to develop. In order to make a qulaity next gen racing game is gonna take at least 5 years without corners
I have given given you a comprehensive review of forza 3’s flaws and explaining why Forza 3 is not competition to GT and why pepole will buy this game day one no matter is it gets delayed to 2012. Because GT is sheer class
Seriously im tired of talking about GT im getting hysterical, any other game im fine with
Geoff
February 15, 2010 at 14:00
You could have just posted a link to classygamer.
lans
February 15, 2010 at 14:03
sorry boet
LazySAGamer
February 15, 2010 at 14:35
Returning the balance to the net… always link back to your source 😉
http://classygamer.blogspot.com/2010/02/forza-motorsport-3-what-went-wrong.html
PS: I could easily point you towards a pile of pro-Forza articles, I don’t think this review is entirely relevant but obviously we don’t censor here so go wild
mitas
February 16, 2010 at 10:54
well done youg lanswalker , however you are not a jedi yet . until you get the A license in GT5 you will never know who your daddy is…great read you should ask lazy to put that whole thread up as a article
LazySAGamer
February 16, 2010 at 11:28
It is an article, just not from our site 🙂
I posted the link above your comment
Mike
February 15, 2010 at 14:09
Your argument is completely irrelevant.
He’s taking his time to make his game as perfect ss possible.
Something that clearly the devs of those other games didn’t do, you shot yourself in the foot when saying more of those other games came out in the same time.
You can’t argue one or two particular points by randomly coming up with any negative points.
You’re saying a game isn’t worth the wait by saying that it’s taking long, stating the obvious in the process of saying something that is a complete contradiction. And then trying to dig up ammo from other games that came out in a shorter time.
What an awful, awful article, tbf.
Uncle
February 15, 2010 at 14:13
Argument invalid
http://warkitty.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/cat_pushing_watermelon_argument_invalid.jpg
The great thing with opinions is that everyone has one. The author of the article is giving his.
Uncle
February 15, 2010 at 14:15
Rabble rabble rabble. Honestly some people that post here should be committed.
Nick de Bruyne
February 15, 2010 at 14:20
I wish people would get over comparisons and just look at the bigger picture for once in a while. Pointing out Forza 3’s flaws is not going to make GT5 better or worse and it definitely doesn’t change how long it’s taken to make the game.
You have to find a balance between quality and a good timeframe.
Everyone is still fighting over which game is going to be better. If you are getting both then what the heck is the issue? Play Forza 3 now, Play GT5 when it comes out.
Play games not consoles.
darthdad
February 15, 2010 at 14:28
+1
darthdad
February 15, 2010 at 14:31
Exactly!
ewie
February 15, 2010 at 16:06
Question remains still why does it take so long.
Why not release the game in sections.
GT – WRC
GT – NASCAR
GT5 –
GT – Night Racing
GT – Weather racing.
I think they want to put too many things into one game, and then a game like “Forza” or shift come along
and suddenly they need to change a few things all over.
Just release it, and if need be add the rest as DLC if it is so important.
Bonk
February 15, 2010 at 16:19
MUST.RESIST.URGE.TO.COMMENT
PLEASE SEND MONEY TO THE BONK RELIEVE FUND. ALL DONATED MONIES WILL BE SPENT WISELY ON GAMES, BOOZE AND OTHER FUN RELATED ACTIVITIES AND BUY GT5 WHEN IT COMES OUT IN THE NEAR FUTURE
lans
February 15, 2010 at 16:30
Seriously whoever keeps giving me a thumbs down is gonna get it sheesh!
easy
February 15, 2010 at 17:01
dude it’s a popularity thing more than an actual attempt to self moderate. don’t take it too seriously.
but then again, you do have a penchant to post stuff that annoys the general lg populace. whether or not you are correct is irrelevant… nobody here cares enough, just another place to get their points/views across.
if you really cared about all things gt5, you would not give a shit what lg or any other gaming sites says. i suggest you wait till the game comes out and turn a blind eye to “falsehoods” that WILL come up regarding gt5.
the lady doth protest to much, methinks 😉
lans
February 15, 2010 at 16:56
Seriously the owners of this site and friends should not be allowed to down vote this is not zimbabwe
ewie
February 15, 2010 at 17:01
This is the internet , we can agree and disagree any way
we want, this is not a democracy , and you do not have freedom of speech on it, only what the owner of the site allow you to do.
SlippyMadFrog
February 15, 2010 at 18:13
Lazy and Friends have opinions too
LazySAGamer
February 15, 2010 at 21:44
I didn’t know that in a true democracy only neutrals were allowed to vote?
Unfortunately unless I go through a whole lot of effort I can’t see who has voted you down, but if it makes you feel any better I haven’t voted either way…
lans
February 15, 2010 at 17:07
Ewie you and mugabe will be best friends
Loki
February 15, 2010 at 17:40
Now now. Play nice with the other friends.
eltonriley
February 16, 2010 at 08:49
What a bollocks site this is. Is this one of those special needs sites that give opportunities to retards for their 5 minutes of fame, or are the writers just lousy at what they do?
Uncle
February 16, 2010 at 09:37
Hello Elton Riley
Comments for articles are available on most blog format sites. The users make the discussion, not the site owners. If you think this site makes anyone famous well then… :blink:
LazySAGamer
February 16, 2010 at 10:00
The story got 64 comments discussing the idea… so I guess the writer got it spot on
lans
February 16, 2010 at 10:32
I hope you get syphillis in the brain
eltonriley
February 16, 2010 at 12:16
No mates, I’m talking about the article itself and the site in general, not the comments. The comments are the only thing keeping this blog alive.
LazySAGamer
February 16, 2010 at 12:20
So you disagree with the article in what way?
Abriael
March 26, 2010 at 03:19
Wow, that was a lot of work pasting my whole article, lans ^_^;;;; Yanno, a simple link would have been just as good (actually better, for me at least :P)
Anyway, there’s a simple element that makes this article a bit less of an article and more of a moot rant:
It’s not like we don’t have anything to play while we wait. The gaming industry isn’t completely dry of games to play. If you have a PS3 you have plenty quality games to enjoy in the meanwhile. If you have multiple platforms even better. There’s a whole lot out there.
What does it matter if a game takes 1, 2, 5 or 10 years to develop? Does anyone plan to just stop gaming anytime soon?
In the end, better taking one’s time and selling a polished and complete product, than releasing after two years with a sloppy one. What to do in the meanwhile? Maybe playing one of the tens of games released every month might be a good idea instead of eating one’s liver because a single game hasn’t been released yet.
Starcraft 2 will be released 11 years after it’s predecessor, but I don’t see people endlessly bash Blizzard because of that.
Maybe that’s because the PC market isn’t ridden of fanboys of competing franchises and consoles drooling for a chance to bash the competition. Ain’t that nice?
lans
March 26, 2010 at 12:55
solz i was not trying to steal your article and i posted a link on vgchartz, i was just wanted to quickly post it here so people would actually read it, and i felt strongly about the article i was not trying to claim any credit from your article and i have linked it in other sites etc…vgchartz the people on this site are stubborn mules and i needed to smack their faces in vengeful truth or else they will continue to try and destroy gran turismo 5, or else the M$ paychecks will stop coming, im not sure what they’re mandate is but it’s most likely GT5 suckss = Bumper Car simulator that wil be out in 2099, forza3 is the shiz who needs fully modelled cockpits for all cars, and ridiculous loading times, forza 3 is the shiz! :devil:
Gavin Mannion
March 26, 2010 at 13:20
There is no mandate, GT5 is delayed. Deal with it.
Also the guy you are talking to is from Classygamer (http://classygamer.blogspot.com/) not vgchartz ;), I am pretty sure he cares about the difference.
lans
March 26, 2010 at 13:20
it seems i agree very much with your point of view abrieal but it seems, that if i said what your saying in my own way, people will be very pissed off and i would not know why
Reaver
March 26, 2010 at 14:03
It’s simple. It’s because you’re a cock.
lans
March 26, 2010 at 14:09
how can i not be a cock if you have suge vendetta against me you munchkin!
LGDare hacks
July 22, 2010 at 23:08
i consider it was a bit rushed, and not noted some options that not many people speak about. Everybody is aware of that the majority new smartphones have web, so why show that primary perform at its bear minimum. Scroll up scroll down zoom in zoom out. Really? which new cellphone doesnt do that? How bout talk about how the text rearranges itsself. Additionally the texting, very poor review. Why didnt you point out you need to use the mic and text with your voice? Omitted ALOT of other extra essential options
Sam Celebrity
August 4, 2010 at 21:40
looks like a fantistic game. looking forward to it.
lans
August 5, 2010 at 00:55
I LOVE THIS ARTICLE NICK JUST SHOWS HOW MUCH OF A POSER U USED TO BE!!! lololol
Now u love gt5 to bits all of a sudden ! see you can pretend to all objective but your past exploits are damning, you clearly had a bone to pick with gt and a have a bit of a chip on ur shoulder kinda like turn 10 does.
just read ur article again i see the your inner fanboy rage burn!!!!
and you wonder why people like me were blasting you!
forza series sold 7 million so what!
Polyphony games released since 2004
Tourist trophy sold mmmmmm??!!!
gran turismo prologue 4.86 million units outsold forza 3
gran turismo 5 psp 1.8 million units competing with forza 3
gt academy downloaded 2 million times
:devil:
gran turismo franchise has outsold the forza 3 franchise without even releasing gt5 wtfrack???!!! :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil:
Nick de Bruyne
August 5, 2010 at 03:25
Welcome back Lans, I have missed you.
In this very post I wrote:
“I nearly lost all excitement for Gran Turismo 5 over the years, I just got tired of waiting. Now that it’s nearly time for it’s release I am excited once again at the idea of getting my hands on the game.”
Which already explains everything you just went on about.
And please, let the records show that I already told you that you were going to pull the “Oh NOW you are a GT5 fanboi all of a sudden” card a couple of months ago, when you were trying to convince me that I don’t like Gran Turismo.
I’m not entirely sure what to do when it releases Lans… should I sit in my living room, staring at the disk… then not put it in because you said i don’t like it. Seems like an awful waste of money.