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Is the Phantom Pain director a CG creation?

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One of these men is an artificial creation of the gaming industry that exists solely for marketing purposes. The other is Joakim Mogren.

Video game technology has come a long way in the last decade. We’ve gone characters who had lego blocks for hands, to full on fingers in all their fingy glory. But we’re not yet at a level where we can completely convince people that something fake is real. Or are we?

Over on the Neogaf forums, one user reckons that the upcoming The Phantom Pain, widely rumoured to be Metal Gear Solid 5, has a director who isn’t completely transparent. Or human for that matter.

Joakim Mogren, the director behind Moby Dick Studios, was recently interviewed by Spike TV’s Geoff Keighley in an event that was more staged than the moon landings (DAMN YOU KUBRICK!). But something seemed off to the NG users.

They reckon that Joakim was rendered completely with the new Fox Engine 5, which Metal Gear Solid creator Hideo Kojima is planning to use for his next line-up of games and will also power The Phantom Pain as the interview revealed. We’ve already seen that the visuals from that engine are pretty damn impressive, but to surpass the uncanny valley effect? That’s a whole new ballgame entirely.

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Anyway, here’s the proof that has been offered so far:

Joakim is 100% CGI in that interview. This is an elaborate tech demo for the Fox Engine.
– It explains why the two are never in the same frame together
– It explains the bandages
– It explains why the game being on the Fox Engine was the big reveal.
If you look at his cheek during the interview, the shading seems suspicious. And the closer you look at it, I have a hard time believing he is actually there.

Also worth noting that messing with the levels of the image showed some rather interesting artifacts on everything apart from his head. Suggesting a higher resolution image has been layered atop the low resolution body.

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Points worth noting:

  • The upper eyelids only half drop. The attached skin doesn’t move at all. (i.e. the eyebrow, the recess below the eyebrow)
  • The lower eyelids simply don’t move. I don’t know about you, but I can’t move my upper eyelids independently of the lower. More-so, when you are shocked or taken aback by something, the natural is to winch/squint.
  • The point of light in his pupil doesn’t move in relation to his head movement. In fact it’s static within the pupil at all times.
  • The shadows around the bandages on the right of the image are not consistent with the head movement

That’s quite the conspiracy theory, isn’t it. I honestly can’t make up my mind on this one though. The game is pretty much a Metal Gear Solid title by the looks of it, and I’d stake my collection of My Little Pony shot glasses on that fact.

But dammit, something does seem…off about Joakim in that interview with Keighley. Like there’s something beneath the surface of those bandages, but you just can’t peel them away to see what it is. Then again, this could be me wanting that interview to be a CG creation.

Watch the interview for yourself below, and then let us know below what you think. Real of CG?

Last Updated: March 18, 2013

43 Comments

  1. TechniKyle

    March 18, 2013 at 11:08

    Uhm Joakim doesn’t have a body… just a floating head…

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    • Major Commodore 64 Darryn B

      March 18, 2013 at 11:10

      Nah, there is a body there, in the video. But under darker light I reckon, to hide the clothing effects that are usuallya dead giveaway.

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      • TechniKyle

        March 18, 2013 at 11:14

        It’s very creepy. Reminds me of the movie Simone – with Al Pacino. If he is CGI, I wonder what things will be like in 5-10 years time. Will the footage on TV be real or CGI?

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        • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

          March 18, 2013 at 11:28

          Does that mean that actors can essentially remain ageless on screen? Imagine a movie starring a young Susan Sarandon and a young Johnny Depp, or even an older Kirstin Stewart? The possibilities for actors to play vastly different characters would be insane!

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          • Admiral Chief Erwin

            March 18, 2013 at 11:29

            LOL you want to see moar Kirstin Stewart???

          • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

            March 18, 2013 at 11:30

            Yes, she’s the greatest actor to have ever been born. Twilight was awesome! GAaaaaAAAaRRRRrarrrrarrr <– Jim has a stroke!

          • Admiral Chief Erwin

            March 18, 2013 at 11:36

            NURSE, get me 10cc’s of Earl Grey, STAT!!!

          • TechniKyle

            March 18, 2013 at 11:45

            That’s not a lot tea dude.

          • Admiral Chief Erwin

            March 18, 2013 at 11:47

            Not when its DIRECTLY APPLIED TO BRAAAAAAAAIN

          • TechniKyle

            March 18, 2013 at 11:51

            Nice save..

          • Admiral Chief Erwin

            March 18, 2013 at 11:59

            Is not save….IS TRUTH 😛

  2. umar bastra

    March 18, 2013 at 11:15

    Oh damn I love this kind of marketing. In a world where everything has to be direct and in your face I love the mystery that is phantom pain … not to mention the flying whale made up of fire in the trailer … I’m more excited to see Fox engine in action. No other game so far in recent memory has piqued my interest as much as this game.

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  3. Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

    March 18, 2013 at 11:19

    This reminds me of that flick, S1m0ne (starring Al Pacino) from the early 2000s. Lol! The rise of the digital actress 😛

    if he’s CGI that’s freaking impressive. By the way, I saw some high-res images from the FOX engine over the weekend, and it’s looking incredible.

    PS: Anyone think that if they reveal his face, it’s going to be Raiden? hehehe

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    • TechniKyle

      March 18, 2013 at 11:19

      I SAID THE SAME THING! HI-5! 😀

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      • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

        March 18, 2013 at 11:29

        I just saw lol!! Upvoted your comments!

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    • umar bastra

      March 18, 2013 at 11:28

      nope, it’s going to be liquid….boom mind blown

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    • TechniKyle

      March 18, 2013 at 11:46

      When they take off the bandages, it’ll be Ripley…

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  4. Nathan Robertson

    March 18, 2013 at 11:42

    Real or CG?*

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    • 1smith1

      March 18, 2013 at 13:22

      have you guys heard that Ace combat 6 is available for pc

      Reply

  5. Nathan Horne

    March 18, 2013 at 11:46

    haha, love this! They should have had the trade mark MGS “!” effect when the guy noticed the Fox Engine logo…

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  6. GTO

    March 18, 2013 at 11:48

    Certainly doing a good job with the marketing for this game regardless of everything else.

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  7. Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

    March 18, 2013 at 11:50

    Lol spotted this hilarious nugget on youtube:

    One of these men is an artificial creation of the gaming industry that exists solely for marketing purposes.

    The other is Joakim Mogren.

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    • TechniKyle

      March 18, 2013 at 11:50

      I was actually thinking, maybe they’re messing with us and the interviewer is the CGI! LMAO!

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      • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

        March 18, 2013 at 12:25

        That would blow my mind! 😀

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    • Major Commodore 64 Darryn B

      March 18, 2013 at 11:51

      It’s also the alt-text on the header image.

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      • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

        March 18, 2013 at 11:52

        HAHAHAH hilarious! Easter egg header image – ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED!

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  8. TechniKyle

    March 18, 2013 at 11:55

    On a side note. As one of the regular commenters on this site, I feel slightly obligated to come up with a more ostentatious, military orientated nickname.

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    • Exalted Overlord Geoffrey Tim

      March 18, 2013 at 12:05

      Elite Sausage commander Kyle?

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      • TechniKyle

        March 18, 2013 at 12:36

        Is there a way I can change it without changing my Twitter handle? I log in with my Twitter account.

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        • Exalted Overlord Geoffrey Tim

          March 18, 2013 at 12:39

          I honestly have no idea. disqus confuses me. ;P

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        • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

          March 18, 2013 at 13:27

          Yep, check on the dashboard (in Disqus):

          Go to “Edit your profile” then click on the Profile tab and change real name… ta da! you will be Elite Sausage Field Marshal Guava Kyle

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          • TechniKyle

            March 18, 2013 at 13:57

            I don’t get settings… I get: Technikyle, send feedback and logout…

          • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

            March 18, 2013 at 14:36

            Mmmm… maybe login to Disqus, maybe you need to update your details on their end? http://disqus.com/

          • Elite Sausage Commander Kyle

            March 18, 2013 at 15:01

            I think I’ve figured it out…

    • Major Commodore 64 Darryn B

      March 18, 2013 at 14:17

      I dub thee Cannonball Wallaby Kyle.

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      • TechniKyle

        March 18, 2013 at 14:33

        Your suggestion has been taken under consideration.

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  9. Major Commodore 64 Darryn B

    March 18, 2013 at 12:01

    By the way, I’m entirely CGI myself. I was rendered with Windows Millennium Edition software on a Pentium 486/6/6/6/6/6/6/6/6/6/6/6/ERROR.

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    • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

      March 18, 2013 at 12:03

      And apparently I’m a rogue java app that gained sentience.

      Reply

  10. OVG

    March 18, 2013 at 12:47

    Geoff needs more mountain Dew shoved down his throat.

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  11. Rikus Le Roux

    March 18, 2013 at 12:58

    Man! That is awesome! Can’t wait to see more….

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  12. Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

    March 18, 2013 at 13:31

    That GIF is going to give me nightmares for life. Great. Thanx Darryn

    Reply

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