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Something I had never thought of, and is never really even mentioned by Sony, is that the controller actually doubles as a pretty decent remote control for movies as well. The Move controller can be used to do all the usual things that the usual controller could do, but is way more handy for those of you who don’t already have a remote for your PS3 already. By using the motion controller you can speed the video up or slow it down by holding in the trigger and motioning towards the direction you want it to go, as well as used it move one frame at a time while paused.

Sony have made no mention on any changes to accommodate the Move controller more, but it really isn’t necessary in my opinion, but hey, you never know.

What you all really came here for

When used for gaming, the Move controller really is quite a piece of work. The motion tracking is pretty much flawless all of the time.

The objects that you control in the game, be it a sword, table tennis racket or hair dryer for that matter, move on a perfect 1 to 1 scale with whatever it is that you are doing with the controller. This includes the ability to rotate the object with your wrist, as well as bring it closer or further to the screen. In some instances you will actually see the video being taken from the camera, and the software tracks an item (such as a blade) onto the top of the controller flawlessly as well.

The Move really has no problem tracking even the slightest of movements with the controller, giving a level of precision that I have not yet seen with motion controllers. When you are for example, playing Table Tennis, it feels like you have an actual table tennis racket in your hand and it allows you to treat it the same way you would a real one as well.

Gone are the days of “waggle” and having motions translate to nothing more than pre-designed animations. What you do with the controller is what you see on the screen.

You will also be glad to know that after some pretty intense testing, the Move comes across as having little to no noticeable lag whatsoever. This may change from game to game, but for the most part, it was about as good as it gets.

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Pain in the arm

For my review, I tested a few different types of games but the one that really did well to show off the Move’s abilities was Sports Champions.

The Sports Champions gaming disc (not usually included) includes a couple of different sports games including Table Tennis, Volleyball, Disc (Frisbee) Golf, Archery, Gladiator Duel and Bocca (similar to bowls).

As I mentioned earlier, the Table Tennis game offers fantastic control that feels scarily real to exactly how you would approach a real Table Tennis match in real life, including stepping back to get to wide shots or putting spin on the ball with a flick of the wrist.

Disc Golf is a play on the golf mechanic, but involves throwing a frisbee disc instead of hitting a golf ball with a club. The amount of precision that can be applied to the throws, combined with the way you tilt the disc and how hard you throw it is really very impressive and a very novel way to spend your time.

Two is better than one

There is, however, a big problem with some of the other game modes. Modes such as Archery and the Gladiator Duel really highlight a major sore point of the Move. While these modes can be played with only one Move controller, it is blatantly obvious that they have been designed with the use of two in mind from the ground up.

Rather than use a second controller in the Archery mode to mimic holding the bow while you pull your arrow back, you simply grab for an arrow out of your quiver and then merely aim at the screen with a crosshair pointer, completely killing the feeling. With the Gladiator Duel you have to resort to using a button to active your shield so that you can block attacks, rather than the second controller, and that once again, kills off a lot of the appeal. It’s not to say that the modes aren’t still fun to play; you just know that they aren’t nearly as fun as they would be if you forked over even more money for another controller from the start.

Practicality

Obviously, being a motion controller, the Playstation Move requires space for you to actually move. Not only that but it requires a minimum amount of space in order to properly see the players as well as track the controllers.

This really is one element of the Move that caught me a little by surprise, at is actually a lot more of a space hog than I originally though. Most games require you to be around 2.5 meters away from the camera. Add to that the fact that you still need space to move around, you actually require around 3 to 3.5 meters of space between your television and your couch.

Now for all of you “real” people who live in actual flats and houses, rather than the huge open-plan apartments from all of the promotional photographs, this could cause a serious issue.

Last Updated: September 10, 2010

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31 Comments

  1. Damn you lazygamer! Now I want Move. :getlost:

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  2. easy

    September 10, 2010 at 09:44

    umm so whats the verdict? a must buy or worthy of 30 mins play to never be touched again?

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  3. Gavin Mannion

    September 10, 2010 at 10:00

    My take from that review is that if like me you are interested in the casual and family games then Move is awesome.. however if you want core titles then you may want to wait and see those reviews

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  4. Fred

    September 10, 2010 at 10:08

    Yeah , a release like Sorcery would have made the launch more solid , but I’m getting two Moves next week. I like table tennis so hope that is worthwhile. My daughter should like it too and we don’t have a Wii.

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  5. easy

    September 10, 2010 at 10:09

    right… i’ll save the money for the pub then.

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  6. Gavin Mannion

    September 10, 2010 at 10:25

    For me that’s the important thing about the Move.. I love the Wii but I will seriously struggle to recommend it to anyone now that the Move is out… You can get a full HD console with Wii capabilities if you get the PS3.

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  7. RSA-Ace

    September 10, 2010 at 10:25

    Here’s a nice way to place the camera on top of your tv http://kotaku.com/5626933/how-to-mount-that-playstation-eye-camera-with-minimal-fuss

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  8. Ringo

    September 10, 2010 at 10:34

    Played Tiger Woods 11 demo with move and it was awesome. Disk golf and Table Tennis are also great.

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  9. Alki

    September 10, 2010 at 10:34

    whoho….cant wait!!!dont know if its just me but here’s alot of potential.just a shame sony has to leave it up to devs to detrmine wot it can and cant do.same thing happend with ps3!DEVS…… take your finger out of your arsinhole and make some awome games!

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  10. Gavin Mannion

    September 10, 2010 at 10:38

    The first 15 seconds of that video are awesome.. the rest if for people who don’t understand how the magic works

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  11. casual gamer

    September 10, 2010 at 10:51

    – RUSE is coming out soon and that is not casual, also RE5:Gold and HR have move support as well, so complaint 1 debunked
    – watch this to see how much it takes to throw the move off, and yes it takes alot http://www.psu.com/forums/s… complaint 2 debunked
    – space requirements are optional yes 8ft distance is the optimal but move works if you are far away or really close, complaint 3 debunked

    as for the rest of your complaints, they are very silly

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  12. riezo

    September 10, 2010 at 10:53

    The draw for the Wii to me are the titles it has. Yes now you will have a better motion gaming experience on another console, but you wont have titles likee Metroid, Mario, Kirby and others.

    That said Im sold on the Move, but I am delaying my purchase until Q1 next year, Im pretty sure they will have better bundles by then. Plus KZ3 will be out with Move support.

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  13. al360

    September 10, 2010 at 10:59

    cooool can you tell me if the demo disk or sports champs allows 2 players to play against each other if u get 2 “moves”

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  14. al360

    September 10, 2010 at 11:04

    awesome tip i always wondered y it had a flat back and no clip came with it
    still 1 problem i agree with is the grainy pic
    i tried those tricks on u tube to reset it but alas my 1 is not the same model and i still have a grainy pic 🙁

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  15. Gavin Mannion

    September 10, 2010 at 11:06

    True but only 12 months ago I couldn’t in good conscience recommend a friend with young children fork out for a PS3. However now that’s all changed and a casual gamer now has a much better choice..

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  16. Axe99

    September 10, 2010 at 11:25

    I’d say RUSE is a launch title for Move, and I wouldn’t call it overly casual. From my angle (core gamer, love all sorts of genres), Move’s application to strategy games is the most appealing, at least at this stage, and the PS3 already has a game out which uses it 🙂 (RUSE is out with Move support now – just need the Move now, goddamit :lol:)

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  17. Charlie

    September 10, 2010 at 11:29

    Most of the games on the demo disc is for one player only – but there are a couple of games on Sports Champions (actually all of them) that can be played by two (or more) people with two (or more) controllers.

    There are also a couple of games (like Disc Golf and Bocce) that can be played by two people with one controller.

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  18. Charlie

    September 10, 2010 at 11:35

    Look – the Move is fun and all but until we start seeing AAA titles for the Move we will never be able to see it’s full potential.

    The initial games are fun, but can become a bit stale after awhile. Lazygamer probably got Kung Fu Rider as well, and although it’s rather interesting, it becomes very monotonous after about 30min.

    At this point there is nothing (besides the highly-detailed graphics *cough* Giselle *cough*) that makes it stand out from the Wii (other than better games). So I think it’s still a bit too early to get really excited about it.

    We’ll have to see where this yellow-brick road takes us…

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  19. AC!D

    September 10, 2010 at 12:09

    Well for once i agree with 90% of of Nick’s review but…… Yes their is always a but:

    – It does have core launch titles in R.U.S.E, Resident Evil 5 ( Trust me you wont believe how much better the Move controls VS Dualshock are for this game + The Move edition has all the extra single player DLC episodes + the multiplayer modes ), Heavy Rain, NBA2K11 and Tiger Woods Golf. I think their is another pro golfer game also but i forget the name.

    – Oh and i see someone already posted the trick to setting up the camera without anything sticky.

    Other than that the review seems spot on despite the authors previous negative comments.

    By the way Nick how was the Augmented reality in EYE Pet and Start the Party? Do you see it being big in more core title like Silent hill where you physically reach into a scary hole and pull something out as a basic example?

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  20. Charlie

    September 10, 2010 at 12:18

    The camera is incredibly grainy (even in decent lighting), so for something like EyePet it looks like its being played on a static TV. The Move version of EyePet seems to work best with the controller as the inout device(as opposed to using your hand for gestures), so I’m not sure how they will work that into SH… But maybe Nick has a different take on it :ninja:

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  21. Charlie

    September 10, 2010 at 12:18

    *input*

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  22. AC!D

    September 10, 2010 at 12:42

    Yeah seriously give Gavin hell till he gives us a edit button 😆 Check my there vs their up top :silly:

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  23. Gavin Mannion

    September 10, 2010 at 12:47

    Sorry I really am trying to get that sorted out,.. it’s amazing how difficult the simplest requests can be

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  24. Nick de Bruyne

    September 10, 2010 at 14:02

    I did actually mention Kung-Fu Rider in the review, so yes we did have it. And let me just say that when you say *cough* Giselle *cough* … I COMPLETELY understand 😀

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  25. Nick de Bruyne

    September 10, 2010 at 19:46

    @ AC!D – I can’t honestly say that I see it working out very well for something like that. EyePet requires that you move the camera to a very low position and you have to sit on the ground, even then, it has quite a lot of issues getting the perspective and depth right.

    What I could see working for something like Silent Hill is using the camera thats looking back at you to generate a flashing image of you on the couch, with some weird creepy shit in the room with you. It would be enough to freak you the hell out, but would only really work well once. So if the guys can get creative they could do some cool shit with it.

    It could be used to handle some very cool puzzles in something like Silent Hill though, as the precision is good enough for you to work with little mechanical objects or puzzles pieces etc.

    Then again, developers always surprise us, so who knows what cool stuff they will come up with. The Move controller will definitely be great for a flashlight for something like Silent Hill ala Alan Wake style.

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  26. Geoffrey Tim

    September 10, 2010 at 20:42

    You need to play the Wii version of Silent Hill : Shattered memories. Very, very clever use of the Wiimote.

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  27. AC!D

    September 10, 2010 at 21:39

    Thanks for the reply! I guess maybe they should have upgraded the camera because the grainy thing doesnt sound very nice either but then users already owning one like myself probably would have complained. At least you can still reach in with the Move controller i guess.

    @Geoff: I played Shattered Memories and yeah they used the Wii Mote very well. Searching for a phone number in a room to listen to a message on your Wii mote speaker was brilliant. Then solving the riddle on the phone message to ultimately solve your bigger puzzle added massive depth. I also like the way the Wii mote was used as a torch. I imagine an Alan Wake like game with the camera pulled closer in like shattered memories would be awesome. Anyway my one massive criticism of the Move controller is that they didnt copy and add the speaker from the Wii mote. I love that about my Wii Mote.

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  28. Geoffrey Tim

    September 10, 2010 at 21:42

    @AC!D Yeah..the Wiimote speaker was/is heavily underutilised – but when it’s used well – as it was in Shattered Memories – the effect can be quite awesome.

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  29. Nick de Bruyne

    September 10, 2010 at 22:11

    @Geoff and AC!D

    Yeah I haven’t played that Silent Hill, sounds like it was already doing some neat ideas. I wouldn’t say that leaving a speaker out was a big loss, its an interesting addition to the Wii, and one that the devlopers found some good uses for. I think that with the Move, the developers will be working hard now to use the precision of the controller to its full capacity. Slicing open dead bodies for clues, sounds nasty, and awesome.

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  30. Nick de Bruyne

    September 13, 2010 at 12:46

    @casual gamer

    – Still, those are hardly launch titles that will get people to run out and buy it, so its a legitimate point.

    – I said the tech is really solid, but the camera itself has issues with lighting. The controller still gets picked up with no issues, but for games that show video of the player, it needs a lot of light to look decent.

    – For certain games like Table Tennis, if you are close to the TV it thinks you are standing over the table, you need to actually move back quite a lot to be in position for wide shots that go further, so again, its a legitimate issue. Space will definitely be a problem.

    My cons are there for a reason, they are real issues, not ones I made up for fun.

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  31. Marc

    September 22, 2010 at 15:11

    I bought Move yesterday, very cool, but mostly kiddies games for now, however, Killzone 3 will be Move compatable, so Move will get better games going forward

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