In a rather detailed and thorough examination of the underlying hardware running both of the next generation consoles, Eurogamer’s Digital Foundry has found that Sony’s next console will offer half as much extra raw graphical power over Microsoft’s.
While both systems are similar with regards to general specifications, Digital Foundry believes that the PlayStation 4 has the edge – thanks to a better GPU and tighter memory architecture. While I recommend you read the entire tech analysis, this is the juicy bit.
“We know that both Xbox One and PlayStation 4 are based on Radeon GCN architecture and we also know that each compute unit is capable of 64 operations per clock," said Digital Foundry’s Richard Leadbetter.
"So, again through a process of extrapolation from the drip-feed of hard facts, the make-up of the One’s GPU is confirmed – 12 compute units each capable of 64 ops/clock gives us the 768 total revealed by Microsoft and thus, by extension, the 1.2 teraflop graphics core.”
"So that’s another tick on the Durango leaked spec that has been transposed across to the final Xbox One architecture and the proof we need that PlayStation 4’s 18 CU graphics core has 50 per cent more raw power than the GPU in the new Microsoft console."
Now of course, the PlayStation 3, on paper, offered considerably more power than the Xbox 360 – but it was such a headache to develop for that only Sony’s first party developers were able to do anything with it.
And that creates yet another problem for the Xbox One; it’s going to be slightly more complex to code for. While the PS4’s hardware architecture is pretty straight-forward and heavily optimised, the Xbox One has an extra hurdle; “32Mb of ESRAM is added to the processor die, along with "data move engines" to courier information around the system,” a necessary addition because of the older and slower DDR3 RAM. It does actually give Microsoft’s console slightly lower memory latency – at the cost of being trickier to develop for.
E3 has now become vitally important for Microsoft; it’s up to the games they show there to win back the gamer sentiment they’ve squandered with their frankly poor reveal.
Last Updated: May 23, 2013
JHN
May 23, 2013 at 09:06
The most important factor about these 2 consoles in SA will be the price.
Tasty peas mixed with porridge
May 23, 2013 at 09:22
Full access to all the features is another considering 90% of the new XBOX is American only TV.
Admiral Chief Commander
May 23, 2013 at 09:08
Moar ram you say?
(couldn’t resist)
😛
Tasty peas mixed with porridge
May 23, 2013 at 09:23
to early 😛
Rince an repeat
May 23, 2013 at 09:26
Agreed 🙂
Rince an repeat
May 23, 2013 at 09:26
Agreed 🙂
Admiral Chief Commander
May 23, 2013 at 09:45
For the joke or in the day?
Tasty peas mixed with porridge
May 23, 2013 at 09:50
For the day bud ;P NOT the joke as THE ONE has made it clear that the OS is more important than kicking the snot out of the PC or SONY.
It would be nice to see SONY run with this ball and make games that look 2X better than the comp.
I am tired of console wars that play the same looking games. I want A WHITE WASH next gen.
Xelus
May 23, 2013 at 12:43
That just made my day. XD
But as said before, I want better games, not better hardware. We sit with next gen hardware, but 2 generation old games. O.o It is not ayoba!
Trevor Davies
May 23, 2013 at 09:13
For it to mean anything, they’d have to use it.
Uberutang
May 23, 2013 at 09:15
So the xboxone will be the lowest common denominator vir multiplatform development.
Like always the exclusive PS stuff will be jaw dropping pretty, the exclusive xbxone stuff will be rather tasty on the eyes and multiform will kinda be on late 2011 PC game level.
I cannot complain about that.
Tasty peas mixed with porridge
May 23, 2013 at 09:24
But will SONY drop its graphical standards to be on par with the competition so not to scare away the 3rd party multi plat devs?
I am sure the 1st party games can look better than they are considering they kept harping on about how much more powerful the CELL was to the Xenon.
Uberutang
May 23, 2013 at 09:29
Sony has never had that Rule. Microsoft apparently has.
This just meant that multi platform stuff will look and feel the same (minus the social bits that each platform has).
It also thankfully means that we are at teh end of bloody dx9! DX11 (and OpenGL counterpart) will now be the standard with some pretty tesselation and tressfx and physx (do the new consoles support physx?)
Nicholas Gatewood
May 23, 2013 at 09:45
They do.
Spathi
May 23, 2013 at 10:11
And PS4 support Oculus Rift!!! WHOOOOT!
Nicholas Gatewood
May 23, 2013 at 10:19
I’m sure Oculus Rift support will come to the Xbox One as well, but I’m just gonna be honest, the Xbox One is a trainwreck of a system. It getting Oculus Rift support isn’t really relevant to my interests. xD
I hope the Oculus Rift ends up rocking, and being user-friendly. I plan on getting a 1080p projector (Optoma HD20, only $700) but the Rift would offer even better immersion.
Either way, we’re living in the future and everything’s looking spectacular. I’m so glad I was born in the 90’s, I get to experience all this technological innovation while I’m young (21 at the moment).
Spathi
May 23, 2013 at 10:11
And PS4 support Oculus Rift!!! WHOOOOT!
Uberutang
May 23, 2013 at 09:29
Sony has never had that Rule. Microsoft apparently has.
This just meant that multi platform stuff will look and feel the same (minus the social bits that each platform has).
It also thankfully means that we are at teh end of bloody dx9! DX11 (and OpenGL counterpart) will now be the standard with some pretty tesselation and tressfx and physx (do the new consoles support physx?)
Spathi
May 23, 2013 at 09:50
I suspect the lowest common denominator will not play such a large role this generation, with the architecture that is all PC, and much easier to program and cater for all the different power configurations. Much like for different PCs today.
Thus, Xbone graphics will be medium settings, PS4 will be High and PC will be Ultra.
Nicholas Gatewood
May 23, 2013 at 09:58
Not quite. For multiplatform games the Xbox One might handle 30 FPS and less antialiasing, particle effects, stuff like that, while the PS4 will handle all that at 60 FPS comfortably. For exclusives, there will be a massive difference in how games look.
And no, PC will not be ultra, at least not for the first three years of these consoles’ lives. PC games will only have prettier visuals than the PS4 can handle if some developer pulls a Crysis and makes a game that very few PC gamers can run. The way I see it, a mid-range gaming PC is $600 and most PC gamers can’t even manage that level of hardware (I don’t go by pre-built PC prices, but by the prices you’d get if you built it yourself). A $600-range PC in mid-2017 will outperform the PS4, but at a higher price range and all that.
Pretty much, the PS4 will have the best 1080p generally-30-FPS visuals on the market for three or four years and then PC hardware will catch up, generally around 1440p or even full 2160p. There are benefits to either path, but I’m going the route with less DRM for the foreseeable future.
Spathi
May 23, 2013 at 10:10
Yeah, that’s what I said ;P
I agree with you on all points. The point I was trying to make was that the more powerful hardware won’t have to compromise for the lowest common denominator as much as for the current gen, which is awesome.
Spathi
May 23, 2013 at 10:10
Yeah, that’s what I said ;P
I agree with you on all points. The point I was trying to make was that the more powerful hardware won’t have to compromise for the lowest common denominator as much as for the current gen, which is awesome.
Nicholas Gatewood
May 23, 2013 at 10:17
It really is. It’s so easy to just double the framerate and up the antialiasing when the GPU’s so much more powerful and the RAM solution is so much better. I think that’s how things’ll go next generation, all platforms will offer a good gaming experience but the Xbox One will be notably inferior to the competing devices’ offerings.
Well, aside from the Wii U, anyways. I sooo wish they hadn’t forgotten the importance of hardware quality, it hurt to jump ship after so many years on their side of the fence. :<
Voter
May 23, 2013 at 10:42
The Unreal Engine 4 elemental demo is already running better and at a much higher quality settings on a 670/680 gtx than what the PS4 can manage.
So a high tier pc already outperforms both these consoles. And a mid-high performs about the same. In two years time max these cards will be dirt cheap. So a entry-mid level pc in 2015 will perform these machines, not in 2017. By that time most of us would be laughing at how you can still play on such ancient hardware 😉
Nicholas Gatewood
May 23, 2013 at 10:45
I’m guessing you know nothing about console optimization, or the kind of hardware in the PS4 or Xbox One.
PC elitists really are the worst. In 2017, when PCs finally catch up to the PS4 in performance, I’ll be laughing about how you dumb elitists pay so much more for comparable experiences.
Voter
May 23, 2013 at 11:13
The UE IS optimised for consoles. What do you think that one of the most popular AAA engines for the consoles of the previous generation did not optimise their tech demo for the PS4? They would be shooting their own feet if they did not.
The comparison can be made. The PS4 cannot handle the level of fidelity that the high end PC’s can. Look at the RAW data. The PS4 can manage 1.84 TFLOPS of shader goodness vs a previous gen Radeon 5870 that can manage 2.1 or a current gen 7870 which delivers 2.6 and approaching double with the 680 at 3.1 with about the same memory bandwidth.
You can buy a second hand 5870 for R1.8k on gumtree. Believe you me, you can pick up a 5870 for dirt cheap in two more years and a 680 for cheap.
This not elitists. These are the facts.
Nicholas Gatewood
May 24, 2013 at 04:08
Real-world performance > theoretical. Again, you know nothing and PC elitists are assholes.
Voter
May 24, 2013 at 10:20
Lol all you have is ad hominem while lying through your teeth.
So you want real world evidence then?
Here back in 2006 when the xbox was released, games looked better on the PC. And the same can be said for various other AAA games on the xbox such as GoW. The PC surpassed xbox and PS3 rather quickly and was about par on their releases. Back then we had the geforce 6 range. My geforce 8800GT can run all the xbox and PS3 ports and AAA games such as Mass Effect 1-3. Which was released in 2006. Same time as the xbox 360.
Here is proof that PC looked better than xbox 360 back in 2006/7 when it was released:
http://www.gamespot.com/features/6147028/p-2.html (Oblivion)
http://www.gamespot.com/features/6178185/p-2.html (Bioshock)
Now kindly sit down and stfu. Before saying I know nothing. When I demolish you with FACTS.
Robert Infy Hart
May 23, 2013 at 13:51
Lol. PC’s will be faster the day after those consoles release.
Voter
May 24, 2013 at 10:21
It is already faster. 🙂
Spathi
May 23, 2013 at 10:49
“Dirt Cheap” is an extremely relative term. Also, the consoles true potential only comes to the front after a few years. It easy to go and compare the graphics of Killzone 2 and 3, Uncharted 1 and 3, Halo 3 and 4 etc.
The Unreal 4 Engine is by no means any indication as to the potential of the PS4 currently.
Also, no one is saying PCs aren’t more powerful. They are. They are also more expensive. And they use more resources on an OS etc. What we are saying is that the same hardware will perform better in a console than in a PC. If you look at how amazing Uncharted looks (even by PC standards), or how well a game like Crysis 3 performs on such old hardware, I think 2015 may be a bit premature for a entry-mid level PC…
Voter
May 23, 2013 at 11:27
I agree with you. Optimisation of consoles do take a while and the games will look much better in years to come. But I am objecting to people saying PC will finally catch up in 2017 when it is already ahead and will only get even better hardware as consoles start to optimise for the same hardware.
Does Nicholas think the pc has only just now caught on to the xbox 360 and PS3? No we have been waiting for YEARS for the consoles to catch up. And there is no indication that this iteration will be any different.
As for the OS, I agree. But the current generation consoles OS are becoming increasingly bloated and the memory management of the PC OS has improved greatly over the years.
I have nothing against consoles. I am strongly considering getting a PS4. 🙂
Nicholas Gatewood
May 24, 2013 at 04:11
PCs caught up around 2009, actually. I have nothing against PC gaming, besides all the DRM brought on by Steam, but I hate unknowledgeable PC elitists.
Voter
May 24, 2013 at 10:22
Here is proof that PC graphics already looked better than xbox 360 back in 2006/7 when it was released:
http://www.gamespot.com/features/6147028/p-2.html (Oblivion)
http://www.gamespot.com/features/6178185/p-2.html (Bioshock)
TROLOLOLOLOLOL
Robert Infy Hart
May 24, 2013 at 18:09
What Voter said.
Nicholas Gatewood
May 24, 2013 at 19:38
Voter’s incompetent, he knows not what he says.
Uberutang
May 23, 2013 at 13:10
I do not think my Windows 7 Installation needs constant 3 GIGS of RAM to operate like the ONE does. I have 16 GIGS of the stuff and it is barely used most of the time 😛
FoxOneZA - X-Therminator
May 23, 2013 at 10:03
The bottom line is that the Jaguar CPU powering both consoles is a glorified mobile APU.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6976/amds-jaguar-architecture-the-cpu-powering-xbox-one-playstation-4-kabini-temash/5
Uberutang
May 23, 2013 at 10:19
You are being very kind to it… 😛
Nicholas Gatewood
May 23, 2013 at 10:24
With a GPU between a 7850 and a 7950 and 8gb of GDDR5 RAM, yeah. Even better, comparing PC hardware to console hardware isn’t really the way to go, as consoles have only one set of hardware each, allow low-level or even direct hardware access and near-perfect optimization potential. As long as the devkits don’t suck, a console vs a PC with the very same hardware would see the console outperform the PC build by a factor of around 8.
Nvidia’s very bullish these days about their obnoxious PC-elitist mindset, but even they acknowledge that consoles can pull way more performance out of a set of hardware than PCs.
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2011/03/16/farewell-to-directx/1
FoxOneZA - X-Therminator
May 23, 2013 at 10:30
I get your point and I’ve seen the results with console exclusives looking anything better than what we have seen on PC for years but then again, any GPU no matter how powerful will bottleneck under an underpowered CPU. GDDR5 offers higher clock rates but the draw back is increased latency.
The Xbox 360 and the PS3 both had the high clock-rates-power-hungry CPU’s to deal with those dilemma’s. These consoles are cutting it thin.
Nvidia will be the ones smiling at the end.
Nicholas Gatewood
May 23, 2013 at 10:43
There are no CPU-GPU bottlenecks in the PS4 (read Gamasutra’s interview with Mark Cerny, some really nice stuff in it; I’ll link to it), and Nvidia won’t be smiling in the end – they didn’t get these console contracts because their GPUs were inferior to AMD’s from a price-to-performance standpoint. Nvidia’s scared right now, their bullishness doesn’t somehow mean they’re not shaking right now. AMD will be smiling in the end, especially if they can optimize their APUs better for tablets and laptops. They’re so far past Nvidia with their integrated graphics solutions it’s unreal.
I have nothing against PC gaming, but I sure as hell don’t see why PC elitists act the way they do about their hobby. Console gaming is going to continue being successful, as will PC gaming. Just have fun and stop trying to put down the competition.
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/191007/inside_the_playstation_4_with_mark_.php
Tateboetie Malaaitie
May 23, 2013 at 12:08
Exactly, not why I have a Pc though. 3 Gpu’s , 8 gig ram 3 years ago , 2 terabyte hardrive space and able to mod games. Its not if pc is better, it’s how much better is it.
Nicholas Gatewood
May 24, 2013 at 03:50
PC isn’t better, it’s just one of many options. Personally I feel it’s inferior due to DRM like Steamworks. I like owning my games, thank you very much, not just owning a downloadable copy that I can’t trade, resell (if it sucks) or loan to friends and lose when my Steam account is closed for some arcane reason.
Which did happen, by the way. I lost 268 Steam games even though I did nothing wrong. I’d rather not talk about it further, it’s a big source of depression for me.
Voter
May 24, 2013 at 10:49
Not everybody cares about price vs performance. Some of us care more about pushing the technological envelope. 🙂
Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew
May 23, 2013 at 09:17
Yeah, that ESRAM is usually more of a pain than what it’s actually worth at the end of the day. Just adds to the headache for coding. That being said, if the microsoft devkits are well documented and done in such a way as to assist devs in the development process it may be nothing for them and won’t make a differance in coding for it.
But we shall see as time goes on where people lean towards more.
Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew
May 23, 2013 at 09:17
Yeah, that ESRAM is usually more of a pain than what it’s actually worth at the end of the day. Just adds to the headache for coding. That being said, if the microsoft devkits are well documented and done in such a way as to assist devs in the development process it may be nothing for them and won’t make a differance in coding for it.
But we shall see as time goes on where people lean towards more.
Umar 'Van Hohenhaim' Bastra
May 23, 2013 at 09:19
Funniest Pic I have seen in a while
http://i.minus.com/iBzvb2JSpQNRM.gif
Tasty peas mixed with porridge
May 23, 2013 at 09:29
ROFL
Ultimo_Cleric_N7
May 23, 2013 at 09:29
Brilliant. Brilliant movie as well…
Rince an repeat
May 23, 2013 at 09:30
You have actually just made my day man! That is brilliant!
Rince an repeat
May 23, 2013 at 09:30
You have actually just made my day man! That is brilliant!
Tasty peas mixed with porridge
May 23, 2013 at 09:35
That is the MEME of the year right there. Who comes up with this shit lol
Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew
May 23, 2013 at 09:39
Thank you. Thank you for making my day!
Zubayr Bhyat
May 23, 2013 at 09:45
Nice 🙂
Skyblue
May 23, 2013 at 11:20
I haven’t laughed so hard for a while! Thanks man!!
ianmin
May 24, 2013 at 08:59
Ha! Epic stuff. Thanks for sharing!
Umar 'Van Hohenhaim' Bastra
May 23, 2013 at 09:19
Funniest Pic I have seen in a while
http://i.minus.com/iBzvb2JSpQNRM.gif
Umar 'Van Hohenhaim' Bastra
May 23, 2013 at 09:19
Funniest Pic I have seen in a while
http://i.minus.com/iBzvb2JSpQNRM.gif
Tasty peas mixed with porridge
May 23, 2013 at 09:21
I find it odd that when they released the xbox 2 they called it the 360 because on the shelf it would look bad to the LAYMEN when it is sitting next to a machine with a higher number 3 PS3.
That was why they did not call it the XBOX 2. So why do they all of a sudden have the renowned 2007 SONY arrogance?
Very BIG HEADED and it looks like the tables have turned. Do not get me wrong, every gen has a turn to fall from grace. But I have a strong feeling that we will never see another console reveal ever again.
Now that they are upgradable PCs.
Nicholas Gatewood
May 23, 2013 at 09:51
Except the PS4 and Xbox One aren’t upgradable PCs, they’re consoles with one set of of hardware each. The PS4 gives very low-level hardware access, the next Xbox’s weird two-OS setup might not allow that; upgradable PCs cannot allow for low-level or direct hardware access, and game engines cannot be optimized to the megahertz and megabyte if they’re running on PC.
Consoles are efficient as hell due to their lack of upgradability, PCs are inefficient as hell. That said, due to the way these pieces of hardware are optimized, PCs are better at higher-resolution games and pushing framerates past the 30 FPS console developers generally limit their games to.
TL;DR, these consoles aren’t upgradable, they only share some architectural similarities with PCs and they could outperform any PC in the world with similar specs.
Brady miaau
May 23, 2013 at 11:16
and that is the point of a console on dedicated hardware. Thanks for pointing that out so eloquently.
Nicholas Gatewood
May 23, 2013 at 11:32
No problem. The PS4 is gonna kick the crap out of my PC build from last year with similar-ish theoretical hardware performance, the real-world difference between the two is massive. The next Xbox isn’t too far off from my PC, since they both have bloated operating systems and aren’t too big on low-level hardware access, but the next Xbox should still trump my PC with theoretically-more-powerful hardware.
Consoles are pretty cool, either way. I miss 60 FPS as standard, Eyefinity and the option to push stuff like game resolutions past the limit they were initially designed for, but I can really only do that on older or more low-end games, unless we’re 4+ years into a console’s lifecycle. I’m just gonna try to enjoy myself with a projector, a PS4 and maybe an Oculus Rift for the next few years, maybe one day there’ll be a major DRM-free PC games service – like Good Old Games, but with newer titles instead. I hope so, I like having multiple good options.
Brady miaau
May 23, 2013 at 11:45
I have a console because I could not be bothered to keep upgrading my home PC. And my laptop.
Now, my home PC is a Dual Core, runs Windows 8, has office and stuff for a bit of admin, runs some music software and that is it. Laptop, I7, fast graphics, all my work is done on that. I think we are moving away from desktop computers as primary input devices
Engineers use laptops like mine, to do modelling (before I get flamed AGAIN, I work at management level in an engineering firm) of mechanical structures, stress points and so forth. These apps run very well on high end laptops, which they would not have done a few years ago.
Now, for just over R10K (mine was R20K, but was overkill to be honest) you can get a fairly good mobile platform.
RichardC
May 23, 2013 at 23:15
I play on Console cause Im always in front of the PC working (and sometimes rendering and baking out stuff) so my PC always has multiple crazy programs running or Im downloading stuff or Im surfing the net. When I play games I want to escape from the whole PC experience. I want a controller, without needing to plug it in or set it up 1st, I wanna just put in my game and play, without needing to fiddle with it or get it to run perfect especially while I have other graphics and 3D programs running.
The way I see it my PC is for work (and once in a blue moon a game, maybe) and watching a quick episode or funny vid while I rest and before I go back to work. So naturally my console is reserved for all my games and chilling on the couch streaming movies and series (when I can actually chill, which isnt all too often lately 🙁 ).
Lardus
May 23, 2013 at 09:26
Will I finally return to my console gaming roots (PS1+2)???
Zubayr Bhyat
May 23, 2013 at 09:29
I may just as well.
ianmin
May 24, 2013 at 08:56
Same here. Leaning towards PS4 after being Xbox gamer past 5 years. I prefer PS exclusives (Last of Us, Uncharted) and PS4’s specs looks better at this stage. And I have a remote that came with my TV if I want to change channels. It’s called a gaming console for a very good reason.
Ultimo_Cleric_N7
May 23, 2013 at 09:27
Man, Microsoft have reeked of fail in the last few days. Wow
HvR
May 23, 2013 at 09:32
Just read the Forbes review, “Xbox One is so great, THEY SHOWED THE CONSOLE, Sony sucks, TV TV TV, EA and sport games are so cool. …. If you care for games get a PS4”
FoxOneZA - X-Therminator
May 23, 2013 at 10:07
To the contrary, so many major developers have thrown their weight behind M$ since the Xbox One reveal. Maybe they know something we don’t know.
FoxOneZA - X-Therminator
May 23, 2013 at 10:07
To the contrary, so many major developers have thrown their weight behind M$ since the Xbox One reveal. Maybe they know something we don’t know.
Ultimo_Cleric_N7
May 23, 2013 at 09:27
Man, Microsoft have reeked of fail in the last few days. Wow
Melasco
May 23, 2013 at 09:34
So the rumors were spot on, no surprise there… So for me it comes down to this:
1. Multiplat games will most probably be identical on both platforms
2. Exclusives on PS4 will probably look better than XBOX One exclusives
At the end of the day, only time will tell, but I expect the first games to look like the best available on PC today.
FoxOneZA - X-Therminator
May 23, 2013 at 09:41
Totally agreed with the PC thing and maybe that’s why FIFA 14 won’t use the Ignite Engine just to push gamers to get a console.
CaptainNemo42
May 23, 2013 at 09:42
Didn’t Microsoft learn anything from Sony during this current generation?
Anon A Mouse
May 23, 2013 at 09:46
But isn’t this why Microsoft is going all nuts about cloud computing? Because their console isn’t all that? (Don’t tear me a new one if I’m barking up the wrong tree. I’m a hardware tech n00b.)
Exalted Overlord Geoffrey Tim
May 23, 2013 at 09:48
Yes – and it’ll be doing some processing in the cloud – which means that some games may end up being significantly better on their platform. We’ll see.
Umar 'Van Hohenhaim' Bastra
May 23, 2013 at 09:48
If you are connected to the internet that is?
FoxOneZA - X-Therminator
May 23, 2013 at 09:59
Significantly better in and in real-time but then again can’t Sony use Gakai to do this?
Umar 'Van Hohenhaim' Bastra
May 23, 2013 at 10:00
Very good point!
FoxOneZA - X-Therminator
May 23, 2013 at 10:11
The Jaguar APU is tended more for the mobile market. PC’s, even mid-spec PC’s are going to walk all over these consoles. Their exclusives will look pretty but for the rest we’ll have to wait and see.
FoxOneZA - X-Therminator
May 23, 2013 at 10:11
The Jaguar APU is tended more for the mobile market. PC’s, even mid-spec PC’s are going to walk all over these consoles. Their exclusives will look pretty but for the rest we’ll have to wait and see.
Deano
May 23, 2013 at 11:49
And the Cell processor was going to power spacerockets to the moon.
See how that worked out
Xelus
May 23, 2013 at 12:46
Hardware is only as good as the one who wields it. I’ve seen guys make the UE3 Engine look like a doom 1 rippoff, but on the other hand, saw guys taking old school hardware and working that baby. It is all in the wrist baby. XD
Gideon Carstens
May 23, 2013 at 13:21
Many of us are software developers, few have worked on AAA game titles. Theory and practice often differ. I’ll just leave it to practice to show how this is going to play out.
Jarrod Lane
May 26, 2013 at 11:31
Explains why MS has that huge Cloud computing push….