About that Mexican Dota 2 debacle…

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As you’re all likely aware, there’s once again a world of drama following another MSSA sanctioned international DOTA match. Shortly after posting our rather boastful post about South Africa’s Dota 2 team thoroughly thrashing the national Mexican side. And then it happened. We received a flurry of emails, messages and comments from Mexico’s tight-knit Dota community saying that not only did they not hold the players involved in high regard, but that many of them weren’t Mexican in the first place.

The whole thing, according to MSSA president Colin Webster, was done through liaison with the International Electronic Sports Foundation, a South-Korean based, not exactly official international e-sports governing body that was created in 2008 with the noble intent of ensuring eSports had the accreditation regular sports enjoy.

With 25 nations as members, including South Africa and Mexico, it looks like the closest thing we have to an international eSports governing body – but it seems that it’s all a bit of a farce, with many of those nation’s representative body’s not really being “official” in any way.  Arguably the US’s most prominent eSports federation, Major League Gaming has not affiliated, opting instead to partner with KeSPA, the Korean eSports Association. As mentioned previously, UK membership liaison is apparently done through the UKeSA, which has been defunct (through bankruptcy) since 2009.

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What does that have to do with Mexico? According to the ieSF, Miexican liaison is done through Mexico’s esports governing body, Esports.mx, which is essentially a dead website, not updated, with no tournaments or structure, and importantly, no actual Mexican Dota 2 team. As we’ve said, we’ve been in direct contact with a number of members of the Mexican Dota community, and they don’t believe that the team South Africa played against was official.

We want to make this right, and make sure that Mexico’s been properly represented. 

This is how it’s going to be. We’re organising for two of their premier teams, Team Quetzal and SUMA – to take on some of our own superstars, like Energy eSports (and another, as yet unconfirmed team) in an unsanctioned international friendly. Only we’ll be doing it without any of that bureaucratic nonsense that so, so often gets in the way. We’re trying to get shoutcasting rockstar Congo Kyle to shoutcast.

It’ll all be organised by tournament hosting chaps Polarfluke and streamed on the magical internets so we can all see which nation really does Dota better. And for funsies, because why not?

Stay tuned for more details.

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Last Updated: September 10, 2013

Geoffrey Tim

Editor. I’m old, grumpy and more than just a little cynical. One day, I found myself in possession of a NES, and a copy of Super Mario Bros 3. It was that game that made me realise that games were more than just toys to idly while away time – they were capable of being masterpieces. I’m here now, looking for more of those masterpieces.

  • Admiral Chief of Rivia


    You see, THIS is why I love this site. Gaming at heart.

    I foresee a GREAT event!

    [Admiral Chief Stamp of Approval]

  • hairyknees

    Sweet 😀 😀 😀 tell Congo that if he needs a co-caster, I am keen 😛

    • Admiral Chief of Rivia

      Seconded. MattyFeeg FTW

  • Alien Emperor Trevor

    Everyone wins.

    • Admiral Chief of Rivia

      Aye. GG Lagz

      • Brady miaau

        GG. For some reason I hate that (no offense to you).

        So I play SC2 and the players says GG an surrenders. Yeah, like it knows. Perhaps I played kak. Or I got lucky. Or the game was so far below my own standards. Pet peeve, right there.

        • Admiral Chief of Rivia


        • John mul-ti-pass

          Oh man. I so agree.

        • Ultimo_Cleric N7

          Its actually a good manners in SC2 to say gg before suerrendering. Or do you mean against the PC ? Because that is kind of random when the PC surrenders and says that…..
          I have a rager yesterday. I rushed him and got the old “PROTOSS ARE SO GAY” argument. lol….

          • John mul-ti-pass

            Yes. That seems to be the go to response when you beat someone with Protoss. But I think he means against the pc. Because that’s when it really bugs me too.

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            And if you ask if they’re so pathetic why can’t he defend against them, what happens? lol

          • Brady miaau

            PC mostly, yes, but sometimes against a human.

            Is it good manners to say it when you tell your friends the other guy was lucky, cause your cat distracted you. Or something. Or when you rage, rage and they say “GG” and sign off.

          • Ultimo_Cleric N7

            true, but in general I would rather have a sarcastic ‘gg’ then a “Your mother sx c^#$” or worse….a griefer…..those are the worst..

          • Brady miaau

            Well, yes. 🙂

          • Brady miaau

            Rush is valid, has always been. In Broodwars you could terran rush, build barracks an bunkers right next to their base and move forward. But you had to be so fast. Just keep em busy tell your first siege tank is done

          • Ultimo_Cleric N7

            agreed, and 4gate has become one of the most powerful All Ins you can get in SC2, hence why many go for it. Yes its considered “cheese”, but so is a 6pool, or 2 proxy rax on the bigger maps. Rush is a strategy, just like an early expand…

          • Weanerdog

            Wow what an insult, he must of spent sleepless nights burning the candle at both ends to come up with an insult that unique and prolific.
            Why is it even an insult it is like when you beat someone and they shout n00b.

  • Ultimo_Cleric N7

    Good guy Lazygamer.
    To our amigos in Mexico…..lets try this again, shall we?

  • RincemySniperKittEH0-O

    Nice work LG team. This is what I like about you (except for Darryl). You are for the community, great stuff again. Good luck SA, and I hope Mexico has a great time 🙂

    • Admiral Chief of Rivia


      • RincemySniperKittEH0-O

        I stand corrected.

  • Paul Fouche

    LAZYGAMER! ill support this event no doubt..

  • Devourer of Small Bunnies

    Thats awesome. So much belly aching as of late, LG taking shit into their own hands. Will defo’s be supporting!

    • RincemySniperKittEH0-O

      It’s their plan to take over the world man. Remember the day I said this, remember…

      • Alien Emperor Trevor

        Remember remember the 10th of September

        • Devourer of Small Bunnies

          HAHA well played kind sir, well played

      • John mul-ti-pass

        Hey man. We’ll all (hopefully) get nice promotions if they do. I wouldn’t complain.

        • RincemySniperKittEH0-O

          Mmm. If Darryl is in charge, what kind of ‘promotion’ do you think he’ll meet out on us?

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            He’ll make you run around in a Robin costume.

          • John mul-ti-pass

            That’s not good.

    • Admiral Chief of Rivia


      • Devourer of Small Bunnies


  • Brady miaau

    I barely know what Dota is and I think I shall watch, if I am able

    • granthinds

      Yes! You’d better! Then download it and install!

      • crackback

        why the heck comment on stuff thats a day old. Flippin hell

        • granthinds

          Haha! Cause I’m not always online?

  • John mul-ti-pass


  • Umar Final Fantasy 15 Hopeful

    Nice tambourine!! Goodluck to the teams

    • Guest

      No pressure Mexico:

      The community has assured us that it wont even be a fair contest.
      I look forward to even more angry replies if we beat you again.

      • Alien Emperor Trevor

        I sense a conspiracy. This was all a cunning plot to scout their opposition. TINFOIL HAT ENGAGE!

      • Umar Final Fantasy 15 Hopeful

        Lol I will stay away from the heat this time. but hey, let’s hope this will be a fair matach and that SA will topple them

  • Rags

    Great stuff. IeSF is a joke and always have been.

  • Sargon

    Epic job guys. Epic.

  • ToshZA

    So how do we upvote a post? This is seriously cool of you, seriously cool.

    • FoxOneZA – X-Therminator

      You share it on some social network.

  • Matthew Holliday

    No pressure Mexico:
    You guys promised youd thrash us with a real team.

    • Emilio Zapata

      well do! 🙂

  • Sageville


  • FoxOneZA – X-Therminator

    So where does this leave MSSA and other E-sporting’s credibility and how did they actually get any feedback from those parties who have sites that “dead”?

    One would think that structures would have been put in place many moons ago when people like FATAL1TY were making headlines.

    • Matthew Holliday

      MSSA cocked things up again.
      That leaves them exactly where they were befor.

  • As a side note, we still have no official press release from the MSSA addressing this… way to go guys.. top job

    • Matthew Holliday

      and just a few months ago i got shot down with “we should all support the MSSA, if we want esports to grow in South Africa.”
      Well done on doing what the MSSA should have done right the first time though.

    • Admiral Chief of Rivia

      Why don’t you start your own organization?

      • MiSt

        with blackjack and hookers?

  • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

    Well done lads, its best to take the bull by the horns and do a solid for all parties involved. Finally, South Africans and Mexicans can join hands while we watch teams battle it out the fields of uh.. digital uh battle.

    Shutup! I’m tired, and I’ve used up all my alloted words for the day.

    PS: Maybe my Mexican counterpart, Juan Plátano will join us on Lazygamer.

  • Jonah Cash

    Where is that ass%*&$* from this morning? I had to explain to him how journalism works… Guess he won’t show his face for a while!!

  • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

    Fantastic! That’s how you handle a bad situation and turn it in to something great!

  • Erick Perez

    i like post good job guys

  • thatmindbogglingwizkid

    Ty I may not be Mexican but one of my best friends was born there we play dota 2 a lot together and he was pissed off to say the least when he heard about how this match was organized.

  • SUMA | Pillo

    Great! now all going right, thnx and lets enjoy it! 🙂

  • Emilio Zapata

    I now love South Africa!

  • Gerhard Davids

    This is really awesome news!

    Bringing gaming to the gamers!
    I’m so amped. Great initiative here.

  • Rudi de Lange

    ” Esports.mx, which is essentially a dead website, not updated, with no tournaments or structure”

    So, the just like the MSSA website then?

  • Congo

    I’m in guys 😀

  • SangSang

    Congo is a rockstar and backstabbing and being greedy.

    • Congo

      I just cast man, I don’t involve myself in politics. I’ll always be where there is great Dota.

  • Rofl

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