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NAG’s redesigned rAge mascot looks much better

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Roxy (2)

If you’re familiar with the Really Awesome Gaming Expo, then you’re no doubt familiar with their mascot, Roxy. She’s been the face of the biggest gaming convention in the country for quite a few years now, adorning the halls of the Vodacom Dome and advertising material, helping to sell the event. This year, Roxy got a redesign that didn’t exactly gel with the industry and the public, resulting in another redesign that looks far more family-friendly now.

The original design for Roxy by artist Caroline Vos wasn’t warmly received a few weeks ago. Roxy had a thong that was so far up her bum that it looked like it was doing a cavity search and a spine that would make a contortionist jealous. Here’s the original image:

Roxy (1)

And here’s the new and improved Roxy, a simple redesign that hits all the right notes for me, though she still has a spine that would make a contortionist jealous

Roxy (2)

“The latest version of our rAge mascot, Roxy, caused a bit of a stir after we published updated pictures of her recently,” NAG boss Michael James said to My Broadband. “When we commissioned the artwork this is more or less what we asked for: we need Roxy in space, wearing an outlandish futuristic outfit, fighting off some alien monster.”

According to James, the final decision on Roxy’s design could have had some more thought applied to it:

For us, Roxy has always been a strong female character in a world dominated by male stereotypes, and she takes no crap from aliens, zombies, and so on. This is how we’ve always thought of her. rAge has always been a family-friendly show. We also should have taken into consideration all the current thinking on female characters in video games.

We’re really sorry to those people who took offence to the original Roxy artwork.

I like it! It’s a nice touch-up, that in many ways, makes for a better piece of art from Vos. Hell, I’d gladly hang a poster of Roxy in her new look, on my wall, so Kudos to NAG for their efforts on addressing this issue. What do you think?

Last Updated: May 12, 2015

129 Comments

  1. #hawkeyeinitiative

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  2. Mistake Not...

    May 12, 2015 at 13:52

    Ok, I liked the first one as well, but this one is just too cool.

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  3. Blood Emperor Trevor

    May 12, 2015 at 13:53

    That looks cool. I’m glad they listened.

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  4. Greylingad[CNFRMD]

    May 12, 2015 at 13:53

    It looks awesome! I’ve said it before, the artwork is bloody amazing!

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  5. Chule Gcanga

    May 12, 2015 at 13:55

    Victory, much appropriate.

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  6. RinceThis

    May 12, 2015 at 13:56

    Still not really representative of the people who attend rAge. Where are the guys in sweaty costumes with stains all over them?

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  7. Kromas,powered by windows 10.

    May 12, 2015 at 13:58

    Naked girls and tentacles should stay in Japan.

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  8. RinceThis

    May 12, 2015 at 14:02

    To be honest, the second is not much of an improvement on the first. Still a sexualized female in a ‘look at this bod’ pose. Why can’t we have a group of different people I don’t know, doing something bat shit crazy, like playing a game or something?

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    • Hammersteyn

      May 12, 2015 at 14:10

      Look at my ass. LOOK AT IT!

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      • RinceThis

        May 12, 2015 at 14:16

        I’m trying not to but it’s IMPOSSIBRU!

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    • 40 Insane Frogs

      May 12, 2015 at 18:48

      This is why we can’t have nice things – next the rabid crazies will demand that all mascots must be neutral, genderless jelly babies – because we shouldn’t offend anyone with a gratuitous display of beewbs, bum or an oversized cod piece.

      This whole mascot saga left me with a massive facepalm. Stop shaming the female form! The Banana Frog supports art and the creativity of artists. Bikini armour for all female characters! etc. etc.

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  9. Dutch Matrix

    May 12, 2015 at 14:09

    How’s about we make it more representative of the gaming community and keep the hippies happy. I present the next mascot NAG will use:

    http://costumefail.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/fat-batman-04.jpg
    So yeah guys! To be all inclusive from now on I want fat guys in my movies, my games, my books, my music, my comics, my magazines and on TV.

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    • RinceThis

      May 12, 2015 at 14:09

      VOTED!

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    • Hammersteyn

      May 12, 2015 at 14:10

      Dunno whats worse. The cosplay or the fact that theirs a website dedicated to failed cosplays

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    • 40 Insane Frogs

      May 12, 2015 at 18:49

      Far too much cleavage, and the double chin is far too erotic. Think of the children!

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  10. Hammersteyn

    May 12, 2015 at 14:11

    It’s better…….ish

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  11. SargonTheBatpandaOfTI5

    May 12, 2015 at 14:11

    So basically they just let the girl go to the mall and buy her own clothes? How… modern.

    *Edit: And by mall, I mean strip club. Cause I’m pretty sure that fabric is latex.

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    • RinceThis

      May 12, 2015 at 14:38

      It’ll never catch on…

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    • Kensei Seraph

      May 12, 2015 at 14:39

      I think she’s wearing more than Miranda did.

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  12. Dutch Matrix

    May 12, 2015 at 14:11

    Oh my God! I need to trek to the Vatican! I need the Pope to lob of my Dick! For I dared look at the image of a woman”s butt and got a boner!
    WHY HAS GOD MADE ME SUCH A VILE, VILE CREATURE??

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    • SargonTheBatpandaOfTI5

      May 12, 2015 at 14:12

      Not going to lie. Even I got the memo. He warned us about you.

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    • Ranting Raptor

      May 12, 2015 at 14:34

      1) There’s no need to bring religion in to this. It’s very offensive and completely uncalled for.
      2) As a piece of art it’s awesome. But as a mascot for a massive gaming convention where the way woman are portrayed is currently one of the biggest issues in the industry, it’s just not smart. It was a bad idea and they should have gone for something other than pin-up.

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      • SargonTheBatpandaOfTI5

        May 12, 2015 at 14:36

        Um. Wow.

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      • Dutch Matrix

        May 12, 2015 at 14:38

        Yeah. I hear nuns are all the rAge this season.

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        • Ranting Raptor

          May 12, 2015 at 14:39

          Your answer is more insults? Nice. Well done.

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          • SargonTheBatpandaOfTI5

            May 12, 2015 at 14:41

            The first comment wasn’t an insult.

          • Dutch Matrix

            May 12, 2015 at 14:49

            Raptor, you are missing my point.
            Whenever I see articles such as these, it gets my blood boiling. Why?
            Because it is taking what is one of God’s most beautiful creations, her being a woman, and making it out as something vile. Something to be fought against. Brought down via the flames of revolution and change.
            Why is that? Do you know the comic book Red Sonja? You know why she wears a brassierre and skimpy bottoms? Not because she is out to corrupt children and pollute their minds and only give people over the age of 11 boners.
            Because she is that good a combatant that she does not need a full suit of armor going into battle.
            Is that now what an empowered, I am sure of myself woman sounds like? Or is that someone created merely so I can do two things I like at the same time: namely read comics and masturbate?
            Please man. If you want the gaming community to change, then you need to change your mind. Think like an adult. Make up reasons other than some sexualised thing as to why a girl is clad like she is.
            It is called using your imagination.

          • Ranting Raptor

            May 12, 2015 at 15:02

            Again with the insults dude? Now I’m not adult? Now I look at the image and just want to masturbate?

            Honestly I expected more from you.

            The whole thing doesn’t go about how she makes men feel but rather what the current industry climate is.

            Currently the biggest fuss is being thrown up on how woman are portrayed in gaming and treated in the industry.

            Stories of woman being passed up for promotions for being woman, woman being shown as only needing to be skinny and skimpy dressed in games. The stories and issues are all over at the moment. Is a lot of it blown out of proportion? Of course it is!

            But NAG, being one of the biggest pushers of local gaming on an international level with rAge (Seriously it’s the biggest gaming convention in SA and one of international standards) should have taken in to consideration what the current issues around the topic are.

            Yes, the whole industry needs to grow up a bit as they are overly sensitive. Both sides, men and woman, but this is not the way to do it. To tout a skimpy clad pin up girl is not helping the situation it’s making it worse and throwing mud in the faces of people in the industry who legitimately feel hard done by or that woman aren’t represented correctly. It’s giving them the middle finger and saying that they don’t care.

          • Dutch Matrix

            May 12, 2015 at 15:10

            Show me where I am insulting you??? Please do.
            I beg of you.
            If a woman is being overlooked for a promotion or some such thing, it’s got buggerall to do with the fact that there is an artwork out there showing a girl showing some skin.
            It is because she is working for a dickhead. Plain and simple.

          • Ranting Raptor

            May 12, 2015 at 15:12

            To quote you “Please man. If you want the gaming community to change, then you need to change your mind. Think like an adult. Make up reasons other than some sexualised thing as to why a girl is clad like she is.

            It is called using your imagination.”

          • Dutch Matrix

            May 12, 2015 at 15:14

            No man! That is not meant as something aimed at YOU. You being Ranting Raptor. It’s meant to be addressing the community as a collective.

          • Ranting Raptor

            May 12, 2015 at 15:15

            Well I unfortunately agree that the image is not appropriate for an international level event in the current industry climate. So I form part of that “collective community”

          • Darren Peach

            May 12, 2015 at 20:32

            Wrong. The collective like to dress up as these characters at these events. Even those of the female persuasion. Ever heard of Cosplay ?

          • SargonTheBatpandaOfTI5

            May 12, 2015 at 15:24

            “If a woman is being overlooked for a promotion or some such thing, it’s got buggerall to do with the fact that there is an artwork out there showing a girl showing some skin.It is because she is working for a dickhead. Plain and simple.”

            Are. You. Serious?

            You’re telling me that the way MEN represent women has nothing to do with why women get passed over for promotions (mostly by MEN) in a boys club industry? Are. You. Friggin. Serious?

            There is an entire SECTION of cultural studies DEDICATED to this. And you brush it off without so much as care in the world? Dude. Entire regions of the world are typified by simplistic and often offensive imagery associated with those people.

            If men consider women to be nothing more than sex objects, how could they EVER take them seriously in the workplace? If they’re taught to treat women not as human beings but as objects of desire then how can you ever expect men to see them as truly “equal”. How we “represent” women in gaming impacts how young boys especially come to learn about, deal with, engage with women. If they only see them as sex objects they grow up to be the great scourge of humanity that decides to forcibly take away the vote.

            This. Is. Bigger. Than. A. Picture.

          • Dutch Matrix

            May 12, 2015 at 15:42

            No. Are you serious?
            So using your argument: Hugh Hefner puts out a magazine containing pictures of naked women and now I have an excuse to act like a dick? (pardon the pun)
            Please!
            That is such a sheep mentality and I find it quite offensive to be honest.
            I, Dutch Matrix, take responsibility for my own actions, and do not blame society for it if I fuck up or act like a dick.
            Can I tell you something? The advice I got from my dad regarding girls was: “Son, do not date a girl. Just fuck her and get it over and done with.”
            Lucky for me I had a brain. You know what my fiance told me why she got involved with me, and why she is still engaged to me?
            Manners.
            I open the door to the car for her.
            I carry the groceries and shopping.
            I carry her hand bag in the mall.
            I treat other women with respect.
            In short, she calls me a gentleman.

          • SargonTheBatpandaOfTI5

            May 12, 2015 at 15:50

            Porn is an adult rated service. It is also clearly defined as pornography. I don’t see any good parents advocating on behalf of their thirteen year old watching it. Nor do we base our ideas on how we engage with the opposite sex based upon pornography either. Thus it’s a very poor analogy indeed. Any argument by analogy needs to have a like to like similarity before we can use the example to go forward. And this is nothing like that.

            Pornography is the literal consumption of sexual activity.

            And dude. There IS a sheep mentality. Of course there is. And it’s good you’re offended by it. It’s horrible, it’s wrong, and it needs to go. But we need people to wake up. People ARE informed by things that may seem silly to YOU. But this is how OTHERS learn about things. Or learn to engage with things. And there is a bloody Century of social studies and psychology that backs all of this up. You and I can take responsibility for our own actions. Yay. So what? There is a large proportion of our society which consume images in different ways to the way in which you do.

            You think we’re being overly sensitive? No. You’re being naive. You’re willfully ignoring research that symbols influence societal actions, preferences, etc. It’s common knowledge that the way we present women to the world in media has actively changed the “prefered” body type. We are creatures of consumption and we’re damn good at it.

            Society is what it is. And perhaps we all need to do a little more sociology, psychology, and social anthropology before we start thinking we can talk for “society”. Because it’s pretty clear we don’t all understand what sort of beast we’re dealing with. Nor how consumption and representation works.

          • Dutch Matrix

            May 12, 2015 at 16:05

            LoL. Dude, I think we are two brick walls trying to convince one another. I hear what you are saying.
            Why are we in a society that sexualises women? Because we, as individuals act that way. If we are going to change that, it is going to be US that have to act more mature.
            Doing away with something because we deem it offensive is sending us back in all the progress that we have made.
            In conclusion: Was the first Roxy a good mascot for rAge, being a family event and all? I think so.
            Children are much more resilient that we give them credit for. A child can compartementalise (please forgive my spelling) in what is acceptable for him and what is not. From a young age.
            BUT ONLY if his parents took a hand in his upbringing.
            For as much as my Dad could be an asshole at times, he has taught me that drinking is bad. That consumption of porn is not for children. That throwing rocks at passing cars is a bad idea.
            And it is lessons I learned from an early age. It is lessons he taught me on the fly most of the times. Like they day I walked into his room, found some naughty mags, tried paging through them and he just went “That is not for kids.”
            And I trusted his judgement.
            But okay. As much as I am not going to convince you, you are not going to convinve me that I am wrong.
            🙂

          • Darren Peach

            May 12, 2015 at 20:30

            I will happily insult you. You are carrying the torch a little too hard. Who on earth are you trying to impress ? We have bigger problems in this world. Flaming online over it means very little.

      • RinceThis

        May 12, 2015 at 14:38

        Well that escalated quickly…

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        • SargonTheBatpandaOfTI5

          May 12, 2015 at 14:42

          I just called the Firefighters. We need to get water on them, quick! Before the flames get into the structures!

          Sorry. A lot of Chicago Fire lately.

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      • Darren Peach

        May 12, 2015 at 20:24

        Religion is far more offensive than any picture. As a artist I endorse this artwork as freedom of expression. I won’t live in the grey dull box that this pitiful point of view expects me to. I have tried to remain neutral on this crap. Art has no limitations. None. Your opinion is that of the kind of person who would burn witches through ignorance.

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        • Ranting Raptor

          May 13, 2015 at 09:39

          Wrong. I stated that religion shouldn’t be pulled in to this the way he tried.

          Two: I couldn’t give a hoot about what you believe is freedom of expression. Freedom of expression in art has its place. But not here. Not an international level gaming convention. You sir, are being hypocritical stating that freedom of art should be limitless but then demanding I keep quiet on m opinion. Go troll somewhere else

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          • Darren Peach

            May 13, 2015 at 10:47

            Keep living in your world of intolerance. Need I remind you of the Charlie Hebdo massacre. A direct result of the lack of freedom of expression. Keep your head plugged up where it don’t shine pal. The minute that happened it rendered this debate mute.

          • Darren Peach

            May 13, 2015 at 10:50

            And your narrow minded opinion will not undermine what I do for a living.

    • Hammersteyn

      May 12, 2015 at 14:43

      God made women and then man made pornography followed by the internet and now you can get a boner from something man made.

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      • RinceThis

        May 12, 2015 at 14:44

        And also in cartoon form 0_O

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        • SargonTheBatpandaOfTI5

          May 12, 2015 at 14:48

          I think we can pin that on JUST the Japanese. No need to sign the confession for ALL of us. 🙂

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      • SargonTheBatpandaOfTI5

        May 12, 2015 at 14:44

        You’re clearly not a Roman Catholic. 🙂

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        • Hammersteyn

          May 12, 2015 at 14:45

          Flying spaghetti monster made man?

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          • SargonTheBatpandaOfTI5

            May 12, 2015 at 14:47

            Now that’s an interesting philosophical question. What would the Great Noodly One make of this?

            His Noodly Appendage Touches All.
            Ramen.

          • Hammersteyn

            May 12, 2015 at 15:13

            hahahaha

      • Darren Peach

        May 12, 2015 at 20:57

        This will fry your brain….”man invented god” pfff.

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  13. Kensei Seraph

    May 12, 2015 at 14:13

    She’s supposed to be fighting that alien?
    Her face in the original artwork (the new one hasn’t loaded yet) does not give me the impression of fighting against a cold, let alone an alien tentacle monster.

    Honestly I wouldn’t have been surprised if someone *cough* had said it was her boyfriend.

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    • SargonTheBatpandaOfTI5

      May 12, 2015 at 14:16

      Thats very Xenophobic of you. The alien could be giving her a leg up with its Tentacle Lift ability, thus allowing the lightly clad dual wielding lady a better view of her target. Plus everyone knows you get +accuracy with height advantage!.

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      • Kensei Seraph

        May 12, 2015 at 14:25

        True, but anyone who smiles pleasantly at the being they are trying to kill would scare me into fleeing.

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        • Blood Emperor Trevor

          May 12, 2015 at 14:26

          Why can’t I smile? Honestly, there’s no reason to be rude to the person or take pleasure in a job well done.

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        • SargonTheBatpandaOfTI5

          May 12, 2015 at 14:28

          Tiny Tina would smile. As you realised she only had a pin in her hand. And for some reason the orange she gave you felt heavier than you remember oranges being…

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          • Kensei Seraph

            May 12, 2015 at 14:33

            My point exactly.

          • SargonTheBatpandaOfTI5

            May 12, 2015 at 14:39

            I dunno. I’d kinda ask her for a game of Dungeons and Badasses. Because FREE DLC SUCK IT RANDY PITCHFORD!

    • RinceThis

      May 12, 2015 at 14:22

      lol

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  14. Kensei Seraph

    May 12, 2015 at 14:23

    Ok, now that the new image has loaded I can honestly say:
    Are her forearms exposed to the empty nothingness of space?
    That would be cold and, I imagine, quite painful for the brief moment as the vacuum kills you.

    Still, it is a huge improvement.
    I wouldn’t be surprised if she could actually survive that battle and with the goldfish style helmet there is nothing to obstruct her vision, even if it probably more less durable than the more common biker-helmet style.

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  15. Ranting Raptor

    May 12, 2015 at 14:24

    Too lazy to retype my comment from MyGaming so just going to paste it as is here

    “I think it needs to be said. The artwork itself, including the original, was amazing. As art it was fantastic.

    But with the current state of our industry, where the way woman are portrayed in games; how they are treated in the industry etc; is such a massive debate and sensitive topic, I think NAG missed the whole point of the outcry.

    The whole decision to have Roxy portrayed as a pin-up was a big mistake. It’s insensitive to the current state of the gaming industry. Especially when you consider it’s meant to be the mascot of South Africa’s biggest gaming convention with many international eyes on it.

    Developers are trying hard to get the whole woman in gaming thing right and NAG pretty much are putting up a mascot that goes against everything people have been fighting against: The sexualisation of woman.

    Now don’t get me wrong. I don’t think that was their main intention, nor do I feel that the image is overly sexualised, but unfortunately, in this case, it’s all about the bigger picture and that bigger picture is that Roxy originally (as in the original one with the sword) looked badass and wasn’t overly sexualised but now looks a bit tart.

    They shouldn’t have gone for pin-up. That was the mistake.”

    /rant

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    • RinceThis

      May 12, 2015 at 14:26

      Agreed.

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    • SargonTheBatpandaOfTI5

      May 12, 2015 at 14:26

      Wait. You just.. references yourself.. directly?

      Head.Explodedededed.

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      • Ranting Raptor

        May 12, 2015 at 15:39

        I have reached the next level. Rant-ception!

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        • SargonTheBatpandaOfTI5

          May 12, 2015 at 15:52

          I KNEW IT! YOU ARE LEO!

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    • Greylingad[CNFRMD]

      May 12, 2015 at 14:27

      I believe I’ve agreed with this before, I will do it again!

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    • Darren Peach

      May 12, 2015 at 20:11

      Cry me a river.

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    • HairyEwok

      May 14, 2015 at 08:48

      Also there’s tentacles in the image…. I’ve seen enough hentai to know where that is heading.

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  16. WitWolfy

    May 12, 2015 at 14:25

    Meh wont prob go this year seeing my kid will only be a few weeks old by that time.

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    • Greylingad[CNFRMD]

      May 12, 2015 at 14:26

      Congrats dude!! That’s awesome news!

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      • WitWolfy

        May 12, 2015 at 14:37

        Thanks! Really appreciate it 🙂

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        • Admiral Chief

          May 12, 2015 at 14:40

          Dadddddddyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

          Boy/girl?

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          • WitWolfy

            May 12, 2015 at 15:12

            Dont know yet… The doc says it looks like a girl… We’ll know for sure on the 2nd of June.

          • Admiral Chief

            May 12, 2015 at 15:29

            Awesome, my little girl is not so little any more, already 6!

        • Hammersteyn

          May 12, 2015 at 14:44

          Congrats bud!

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        • Ranting Raptor

          May 12, 2015 at 14:44

          Woooot! Well done!

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    • Umar

      May 12, 2015 at 15:49

      Grats buddy!

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  17. Dutch Matrix

    May 12, 2015 at 14:31

    Here is an idea:
    Instead of crapping all over a mascot that NAG has decided to use for an Expo THEY are organizing, why don’t all you ninnies go and put up an expo for us, and then put up whatever you deem fit for your expo.
    But NOOOOOO.
    It is so easy to crap on work done by someone else.
    The irony in all this though, lies in the immediate comparison of the tentacles in the artwork to that of some sad Hentai. “We do not want the womenz to be sexualized. But an Alien tentacle creeping up her leg must be some sort of sexual act!” It kind of makes me wonder just where the perverted minds lie.
    And to be honest: I kind of find these types of articles on Lagz, slanting the hard work done by a fellow/sister publication for the benefit of the gaming community in SA to be a bit in poor taste. Guys, NAG is doing a shitload of good for us by doing this.
    Why then vilify their work like this?

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    • SargonTheBatpandaOfTI5

      May 12, 2015 at 14:53

      To be fair, if we all decided to let anyone run anything they pay for the way they want to then we’re on a very very slippery slope. Next thing you know, massive corporations are stamping employees like cattle and paying minimum wage in alcohol. Doing x% good work doesn’t mean you get to do y% bad work, either.

      Just because you’re organising something and you’ve made your own mascot doesn’t mean you’re above reproach from the general public and the industry you’re in. Any organisation worth its salt would allow for, even appreciate, public feedback. Plus this is a hypersensitive issue in the gaming community right now and debate in free society is allowed.

      And if NAG don’t like that, then they should piss off to North Korea where people and their opinions, thoughts, ideas, are not considered at all.

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      • Dutch Matrix

        May 12, 2015 at 15:03

        Why can’t I that is paying for something with my OWN money design something I want to see or have?
        And just why is this, the “sexualising” of women in games such a hyper sensitive issue? I’ll tell you why, if you missed my response to Raptor (not being nasty. Maybe you honestly missed it)
        It is because we are so immature in our thinking, that the first thing we think of when we see a scantily clad female, is sex.
        The only reason she exists in art, games, movies, tv shows and comics is because she is meant to be a boner inducing creation.

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        • SargonTheBatpandaOfTI5

          May 12, 2015 at 15:18

          No one is saying that you cannot design something you want to see or have. There is a lot out there that people have designed that they’re perfectly entitled to do. It doesn’t mean that we have to support you in doing so. It doesn’t mean we’re not allowed to jump on a bandwagon, shout from the rooftops, and create banners pointing out what we consider to be your poor judgement. There is a current and very important debate about women in gaming (and how they’re represented). It’s a VERY real problem for VERY REAL people. And how you (or others) continue to design or represent women have very REAL effects.

          Those people are allowed to be represented. We’re allowed to debate these ideas. We’re allowed to reject forms that are less inclusive, for whatever reason we deem relevant to the conversation. As per your OP, we’re allowed to vilify them for negatively representing a minority group (which women very much are in the gaming community).

          As to your “why”, I don’t agree with it. But you’re allowed your opinion. I think it’s significantly more complicated than that and has much deeper roots in our society than your response touches. That you think the last part of your paragraph also deeply saddens me. Because females are not there for male consumption. That very thought sickens me to my core.

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          • Dutch Matrix

            May 12, 2015 at 15:25

            I don’t think that women is only there for men’s consumption. I am not THAT shallow.
            I AM capable of having a conversation with a woman’s face, and not her boobs.
            Because you know, respect.

          • SargonTheBatpandaOfTI5

            May 12, 2015 at 15:30

            You said: “The only reason she exists in art, games, movies, tv shows and comics is because she is meant to be a boner inducing creation.”

            That is classic female consumption. That’s exactly what it is. That’s the entire point of feminism right there. You hit the friggin nail on the friggin head. And it’s that point that’s the problem here. It’s. Disgusting. And. It. Has. To. End.

            Not just in gaming. Hollywood certainly doesn’t help.

            But dude. Yes. Women are gorgeous. Their forms should be appreciated. I agree with you on that. Women are all beautiful in a wide variety of unique ways. The Gods chose well when they chose that form. 🙂

            But it’s about time we start to represent all women in gaming. And that we start to grapple with the notion that overly sexualising women in gaming leads to things we don’t want in society. I know too many Westernised men who treat women like dirt because they should be in the kitchen making dinner and doing dishes. And they joke. But under the veil, there is a nugget of belief. There is a real problem out there. And this sort of imagery when we’re trying to have a real conversation about that problem? It’s in bad taste. It’s a very. very. poor decision.

          • Dutch Matrix

            May 12, 2015 at 15:55

            My earlier post with the fat Batman refers.

            I am not, despite what my Avatar shows, Arnold Schwarzenegger in his prime. I am fat. According to the clever people, I am morbidly obese. (Not as fat as Batman up there.)

            Do I now, take my pitchfork and trek to Hollywood and demand that Captain America be played by John Goodman?

            No.

            Why?

            Mainly I need the inspiration. I need to see Chris Evans shirtless and go: “Man. Maybe it’s time for me to get off my ass and onto the treadmill. Not because I want his bod, but I want a healthy lifestyle.”

            SO there is that.

            And again, I say this:

            I can do one of two things looking at this girl http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/original/12/127694/2488646-ivy-valentine-soulcalibur-broken-destiny-picture.jpg
            I can think she is only good for a shag and nothing else.
            or
            I can think: Wow. This woman is so confident in her sword fighting skills that she can parade around in that outfit because she KNOWS I am not going to come close to her in combat.

          • SargonTheBatpandaOfTI5

            May 12, 2015 at 16:09

            Being fat should not be glamorised either. It’s medically dangerous to be obese and honestly – I have no problem that that isn’t represented more. Normal bodies (and normal weights) should be appreciated. And this is just not true of women in the way it is for men. Yes, men can still be sexualised (one only has to hear the sighs every single bloody time Thor somehow ends up without his shirt on) but these are done within healthy norms. With healthy weights, etc. And often their armour is functional, not edible strings barely covering anything. 😛

            I’m just going to say – bad example. Sorry.

            And in real life, it doesn’t matter how good a poorly equipped fighting force is, it’ll lose every. single. time. Thermopyle is the standing case in point. No women in that material would last a single moment in battle. Do you see a particular female knight in Game of Thrones flashing that much flesh? No. Cause you’d be dead very quickly. No matter how good you were.

            No man is ever dressed that skimpily, either. 😛

          • Dutch Matrix

            May 12, 2015 at 16:13

            Real life. See. If you want to compare a video game to real life then I am not so sure anymore. (Not referring to you personally)
            A video game is still an imaginitive creation. It is not meant to reflect real life. Not always. Sometimes fun, albeit over the top in design and implementation is required if we are to get through life.

          • Dutch Matrix

            May 12, 2015 at 16:14

            “No man is ever dressed that skimpily, either. :P”
            Have you seen Batman & Superman’s tights in the comics?
            😛 😛

          • Bagel

            May 13, 2015 at 08:15

            Lmao. That huge batman header.The Alt costume. im going to go cry tears of salt to someone. oh wait, no. i understand its art and someone’s vision. So who gives a fuck?

    • Sageville

      May 12, 2015 at 15:40

      Funny thing is, those sighting sexual tentacles have clearly watched hentai and have injected their own sexualised interpretation into the piece…. meanwhile actual kids find tentacles as scary parts of a monster….

      I’m now watching peeps flip-flop their opinion depending on popular outcry of the moment….

      Reply

      • SargonTheBatpandaOfTI5

        May 12, 2015 at 15:54

        Unfortunately people jumping on the bandwagon (even if it’s my bandwagon) often undermine the position of those they seek to help. But not all the time.

        Reply

      • Dutch Matrix

        May 12, 2015 at 16:07

        Damnit man! I need to employ you as my editor/spokesman!
        Let’s talk fees! 🙂

        Reply

      • Matthew Holliday

        May 12, 2015 at 16:07

        not really, hentais reputation for tentacles precedes itself.
        one doesnt need to have seen it to know whats up.
        including them is probably a bit too ambigious and suggestive, but meh.

        Reply

        • Dutch Matrix

          May 12, 2015 at 16:18

          If you show that image to an eight year old and ask him what he thinks, and his response is “Clearly that alien appendage is encroaching on her due to a desire by its owner to have sexual relations with her.” then I will weep for humanity.

          Reply

          • Matthew Holliday

            May 12, 2015 at 16:43

            sure, i would probably cry aswell, but im talking about the general gamer / internet user.
            even outside of that, the whole tentacles thing is not the worlds best kept secret.
            and note my use of “ambiguos and suggestive” rather than saying that its the automatic conclusion.

        • Sageville

          May 12, 2015 at 16:32

          I totally disagree, I never even heard of hentai until reading LG and tentacles had absolutely no sexual context for me. You really need to look with hentai glass to get a boner from tentacles.

          Reply

          • Matthew Holliday

            May 12, 2015 at 16:49

            one persons experience doesnt make it untrue.
            its reputation is well known whether you’ve experienced it or not.
            it is suggestive.

            doesnt phase me personally, they stuck a suit on her and made her look more badass.
            Artgerm is one of my favorite artists, so i dont exactly find this offensive.

    • Khozem Sahiwala

      May 12, 2015 at 16:07

      Nice one

      Reply

    • D.Zoolander

      May 12, 2015 at 16:45

      Amen!
      As much I don’t like NAG, Lazygamer has just become another clickbait site to jump on whichever gaming “issue” is popular at the moment.

      Reply

      • Dutch Matrix

        May 12, 2015 at 20:25

        Lazygamer will forever be THE site for me when it comes to gaming news. It’s free, and to be honest, Gavin, Darryn, Geoff and the rest of the team are awesome journalists, perfect for the SA gaming/geek scene.
        So even if they do swing the banhammer on me from the comments section, I will continue reading.
        My anger is more aimed at a community crying for maturity and yet, not willing to be mature in themselves….

        Reply

        • Darren Peach

          May 12, 2015 at 21:13

          Any website that bans you for speaking truth aint worth your time. Mind you, This website seems a smidge more tolerant…….for now.

          Reply

  18. Goal9

    May 12, 2015 at 14:36

    The new design looks way better. Granted I never did like how she looked before; always looked so “manufactured” and less natural looking.

    Reply

  19. Gavin Mannion

    May 12, 2015 at 15:23

    The artwork is still awesome but in the current environment it just seems short sighted… Still overly sexualised, just dressed now

    Reply

    • SargonTheBatpandaOfTI5

      May 12, 2015 at 15:26

      I don’t think that there is a soul out there that could honestly say that the artwork is not awesome. Someone talented certainly had a hand in the creation of something really cool. And if it was honestly about just the art, we wouldn’t be having this conversation at all. So I do agree with you 100%.

      Reply

    • Sageville

      May 12, 2015 at 15:27

      I find it sufficiently toned down to take my kids to Rage, I’m sure it’s unacceptable for those pushing social justice agendas.

      On the tentacles, the people saying this is sexual, forget that tentacles are scary to kids but only sexual to those who watch hentai.

      Reply

      • Dutch Matrix

        May 12, 2015 at 16:09

        But if you won’t mind me asking: Would you have taken your kids to rAge if the first Roxy stayed? Not fighting or judging. I really want to know.

        Reply

        • Sageville

          May 12, 2015 at 16:30

          I would have, but I would have had to have a parent talk with my daughter.

          Reply

          • Aaron Lucas

            May 12, 2015 at 19:53

            A parent who talks to their child?! They do exist! o.O

          • Dutch Matrix

            May 12, 2015 at 20:11

            Glad to know you seem to be a cool parent…

  20. Lukas De Kock

    May 12, 2015 at 18:19

    Personally i feel all characters should be portrayed as neutral grey blocks with edges that has been beveled faintly.

    The neutral grey will make sure no racism occurs, depicting that no color is favored over the other.
    The faint beveled edges is to minimize the outfall from portraying either a feminine block, or a manly block. Hard edges will result in the block to look too manly, and if the beveled edges are too round the block will appear too feminine.

    Reply

  21. Darren Peach

    May 12, 2015 at 20:08

    Well done to NAG for not listening to the political fudge that is currently doing the rounds and publishing a very nice piece of artwork. Seems that all men are forgetting that they are men and are afraid to celebrate kick ass design.

    Reply

    • Darren Peach

      May 12, 2015 at 21:01

      Did not notice the clothed version. I take that back. Clearly bowing to social pressure, If not NAG would never put it in their mag in the first place. Respect – 1000000000 !

      Reply

  22. Cyberats

    May 12, 2015 at 21:32

    Kiss my shiny metal arse !!!

    Reply

  23. Wogan

    May 12, 2015 at 22:39

    Starting to think that we’re living in a generation where kids got old enough to verbalize their impulses, but didn’t actually *grow up enough* to realize *how stupid they sound*.

    It’s a GAME. A GAME. ON YOUR COMPUTER. IT. IS. *NOT*. **REAL**

    Reply

  24. Sgt. M

    May 13, 2015 at 08:27

    Last years Roxy still wins

    Reply

  25. HairyEwok

    May 14, 2015 at 08:46

    First thing that comes to mind seeing that image….. The Jetsons.

    Reply

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