Seven years, plenty of hype and some slick trailers later, and today is a brilliant day for anyone who happens to carry a torch for The Last of Us Part II. A heck of a long time in the making, Naughty Dog’s latest effort is nothing short of a masterpiece in story-telling. At least that’s the consensus according to many a game reviewer, who had ample time with the game and spent weeks immersing themselves within a world gone mad.
In the days and weeks to come, there’s going to be a lot of love shown towards The Last of Us Part II, as the game’s core fanbase comes together to celebrate one of the final milestones of this generation in console gaming. Maybe you’ll love it. Maybe you won’t. Maybe you’ll be left feeling divided on whether you should enjoy the game or you find yourself disgusted by the sheer brutality present within the game.
And then there’s that minority of people, who just want to shit on everyone’s parade.
Over on Metacritic (Thanks Konfab!), a small mob of people who have nothing better to do with their time are busy review-bombing the game in a vain attempt to “own the SJWs”, offering poorly written takedowns of a game they most likely haven’t even played. Here’s a quick round-up of their opinions:
LeandroLucky – 2/10
Technical part is amazing! Shadows, light awesome.
But scenario, so so so bad..
Skyarch
Holy god the story was so god awful. But the graphics and gameplay aight. Solid use of destroying all character development from the previous game.
Facelessman93 – 0/10
Story written by a dumbass. Poor writing too. Flat new characters. Repetitive game, boring.
Zdlxjy – 4/10
Disgusting attitude towards the fans of the previous game. Naughty dog wasted the best chance to continue the TLOU IP.
H_E – 3/10
The game play is alright at best, not upset by it. Its just the story that really peeves me. How can you go from Last of Us 1 to this in terms of story?
Demondlzde – 0/10
there is alot of woke trash in the game, alot of gender and identity politics. the game isnt about telling a story of Ellie, its about pushing an agenda to you. 0/10 wouldnt touch it with a stick.
Cactuar – 0/10
I don’t like gorilla
this game betray me
Naughty Dog just buy the media
And on and on it goes, a neverending bowel excavation of people upset by a video game because it doesn’t cater to them. Honestly, this is just sad. To live your life so consumed with hate, over something like a video game. I like to think that gamers are better than this, and I’m often proven right (like the one local gaming forum doing an AMAZING job this week in cleaning house within the Call of Duty fandom).
No matter what the fandom is though, there’s always going to be that small section who exist to tarnish the rest of the group. Maybe they genuinely help if video games make them this upset, maybe they’re just in it for “teh lolz” so that they can score cheap internet point and farm outrage clicks or maybe they’re just saddos. Why am I even giving these people attention?
That’s a good question, and it’s because I believe that having this onslaught of negativity does genuine harm to people who have a legitimate criticism to throw at The Last of Us Part II. There’s a game that is well worth being discussed, once you’ve experienced it fully – and I have no doubt there will be some legitimate criticisms to be discussed long after launch.
Having a bunch of massive babies like this running rampant though? That doesn’t do anyone a favour short of derailing a fantastic conversation over how video games truly are art.
Last Updated: June 19, 2020
konfab
June 19, 2020 at 13:19
Your (sic) welcome 😀
For the Emperor!
June 19, 2020 at 13:28
“there is alot of woke trash in the game, alot of gender and identity politics” – If you don’t like woke, don’t buy it in the first place as it was apparently clear in the trailers that it would be? I don’t know, didn’t watch them or play the previous game so don’t really care*. And, well, if that is true, then the game is also not for me. But also not a 0 given people say the graphics and game play are solid? Say that, and say the story is not to your liking. And give it a fair review score of a 5 for graphics etc and 0 for story making it 5/10.
Like Mass Effect Andromeda – even with the bugs the game play was for me amazingly fun! But the story made it below par for me. Still gave it a “fair score” based on that and not a 0 for “being woke”. The fact that the company abandoned the game as well made it clear they saw it as well.
*Still entering the competition to score points with a female friend though hehe.
Stoompot
June 19, 2020 at 13:50
And on the flip side a lot of shills gave it a perfect score. 10/10? What a joke. Also saw some spoilers. What a bunch of hypocrites. Sony will ban and censor games that “demean” wahmon but TLOU2 has one of the cringiest scenes ever!
Stoompot
June 19, 2020 at 14:03
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Took out the image in the left, but this is the hypocrisy we are dealing with
Stoompot
June 19, 2020 at 14:03
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Took out the image in the left, but this is the hypocrisy we are dealing with
RinceThis
June 19, 2020 at 14:37
Lol, you have missed the point so hard on this you could split it into 3 and sell it to Peter Jackosn.
Stoompot
June 19, 2020 at 14:43
There is a backlash, unfairly so I agree. But after seeing the garbage they put in how can it still be a 10/10.Yet other games are pulled and censored because of “naughty”bits. They don’t mention it in any reviews because of the DMCA. But that’s a lie to protect the sales of this agenda piece by Niel.
Also, it’s Jackson genius.
RinceThis
June 19, 2020 at 15:05
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Alien Emperor Trevor
June 19, 2020 at 15:05
Wow, are you trying to imply that his typo invalidates his point?!
RinceThis
June 19, 2020 at 15:19
Well if one needs to clutch at straws…
RinceThis
June 19, 2020 at 15:19
You should neil down and take the knee matey.
MechMachine
June 22, 2020 at 12:43
Er….Kneel 🙂
True FF Fan
June 19, 2020 at 18:20
Pretty sure he didn’t miss the point, liberal
bigevilworldwide1 .
June 19, 2020 at 18:33
Awww you poor little thing you can’t jerk your dick to underage anime….So heartbreaking
ElimGarak
June 19, 2020 at 23:29
Anime games are still gross. But yes. Essentially this.
ElimGarak
June 19, 2020 at 21:06
Sony paid for those, don’t believe me? Check all the names floating around meta critic. Anyone you recognize? A few, maybe. The rest? They don’t review games, but all of the sudden they do, because it’s TLOU2.
Yep. The reviews got a nice new hat made of money.
RinceThis
June 19, 2020 at 14:26
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DapperWoef
June 19, 2020 at 14:37
I for one give Last of us 2 a solid zero.
I could not get further then a quarter way with the first game when those damn clickers got involved.
It ruined any chance of me getting the second game.
0/10.
RinceThis
June 19, 2020 at 14:37
This, is a better review than any of those babies on Metacritic. I salute you 🙂
True FF Fan
June 19, 2020 at 18:28
This liberal sissy is calling honest people babies, what a wussy
The D
June 19, 2020 at 14:37
10/10 for valid criticism.
Nah
June 22, 2020 at 06:38
Even the mods are cry babies holy crap.
Pr0j3ct97
June 19, 2020 at 15:05
If people think this story is a masterpiece, I’ll go as far to say that you need some brain examination. In which fucking parallel universe is this story a good story if all it does is shit on the first games story? Darryn I really hope you think hard about your article because it’s not just a small bunch.
Michael Habel
June 19, 2020 at 15:39
Naughty dog doing things that Marvelous can’t with less. Or in the case of the flat ladyboy. MORE.
James Sebastian Roa
June 19, 2020 at 16:14
It’s a hyper mean spirited game, horrible storyline, terrible character tropes. It should have been left alone as it finish perfectly at the end of the first game. This is an all out political message.
For the Emperor!
June 19, 2020 at 13:28
“there is alot of woke trash in the game, alot of gender and identity politics” – If you don’t like woke, don’t buy it in the first place as it was apparently clear in the trailers that it would be? I don’t know, didn’t watch them or play the previous game so don’t really care*. And, well, if that is true, then the game is also not for me. But also not a 0 given people say the graphics and game play are solid? Say that, and say the story is not to your liking. And give it a fair review score of a 5 for graphics etc and 0 for story making it 5/10.
Like Mass Effect Andromeda – even with the bugs the game play was for me amazingly fun! But the story made it below par for me. Still gave it a “fair score” based on that and not a 0 for “being woke”. The fact that the company abandoned the game as well made it clear they saw it as well.
*Still entering the competition to score points with a female friend though hehe.
Leon Renner
June 19, 2020 at 14:37
Lets be honest: the metascore reviews started it with their 10/10 scores. Who knows why? Did they get paid, did they fear consequences by Sony or did some bias authors couldnt hold back to push their agenda?
Well, the people are just striking back now. Call it “review bombs” or whatever you want, but they have brought that upon themselves. Just think what they did to silience all the youtubers or people on twitter.
A 6/10 or 7/10 that would be ok for the game in my opinion.
For the Emperor!
June 19, 2020 at 16:35
I saw Laymen mention they got “black listed” by a few companies for not pulling punches on some of their reviews, and meme-ing the crap out of some stinker games. So I can see how some could be concerned about consequences.
Duke Sparrow
June 19, 2020 at 17:45
Critical reviews = blue pill
User reviews = red pill
bigevilworldwide1 .
June 19, 2020 at 18:39
Nah
critical reviews = actually played the game.
User reviews = Didn’t actually play the game crapping their diapers because they have to play as a gay character, although her being gay is never specifically said out loud but its been obvious since the DLC from the first game….
I especially like the part about Abby and the morons still pushing the lie being trans, when she isn’t trans but that would require actually playing the game to know that…
Nah
June 22, 2020 at 06:38
lol okay, get back to me when you actually work out for more then 2 yrs.
slack·tiv·ism
June 19, 2020 at 17:55
As a guy who hasn’t played this game because I don’t want to see a character I knew gets fucking killed in the most stupid possible way and I will say yes I am a racist and a big baby I hate women bottom text. Just play Metal gear solid 2 or the original last of us but if you want to see a character you love gets beaten to death with a golf club then sure spend 60$ but for me I don’t want to see shit writing
Strafrecht
June 19, 2020 at 17:55
The writer of this article DARRYN BONTHUYS is the only cry baby. How butthurt must you be to post this? You didn’t say anything about the 10/10 reviews, but you decide to crap on the gamers? What a man child.
True FF Fan
June 19, 2020 at 18:09
What do you expect, he is a liberal and liberals love to pretend that honest critizism is an attack. Woke garbage is just not worth it, ever, unless you want to sit through constant attempts at brainwashing. lol at calling the author the actual crybaby, he refuses to acknowledge that most of those critizisms against the woke garbage are straight up honest. Eh, liberals…never capable of facing reality…
Myron Dean
March 8, 2021 at 19:54
Good roast.
Myron Dean
March 8, 2021 at 19:54
Good roast.
Pieter Kruger
June 19, 2020 at 13:43
Game review scores shouldn’t matter and shouldn’t be taken seriously. PLAY WHAT YOU LIKE! That being said, this is not the 1st and won’t be the last game being review bombed. To keep review scores legit(for those that actually read value into them), only people that have actually played & completed the game should be allowed to do reviews. For me personally, from what I’ve seen so far, this game is not perfect, but still looks incredible!
MechMachine
June 19, 2020 at 13:50
As long as it’s on Series X right ?
Stoompot
June 19, 2020 at 13:50
Lol, exactly
MechMachine
June 19, 2020 at 13:51
I mean with a good heart. I enjoy it when Pieter pops up out of nowhere and adds his input. I think he is a super secret Micosoft AI.
Stoompot
June 19, 2020 at 14:03
He either works for them or he has a genuine disdain for playstation. Probably still butt hurt over Xbox being dragged by the internet in 2013
MechMachine
June 19, 2020 at 14:03
I think the series X is going to be a nice console. I`m still sticking with Sony, Unless the MS event is killer,
Stoompot
June 19, 2020 at 14:09
It’s their time to shine. I’ve not made up my mind yet which one I’m getting. Maybe both eventually.
Stoompot
June 19, 2020 at 14:09
It’s their time to shine. I’ve not made up my mind yet which one I’m getting. Maybe both eventually.
Stoompot
June 19, 2020 at 14:03
He either works for them or he has a genuine disdain for playstation. Probably still butt hurt over Xbox being dragged by the internet in 2013
For the Emperor!
June 19, 2020 at 13:43
Plausible reviews:
Zdlxjy – 4/10 = score is plausible because doesn’t like story. But wording makes it feel like a bomb. 5/7 it is a review bomb.
H_E – 3/10 = plausible. Not overly impressed by game, doesn’t like story.
The rest feel 100% like review bombs
MechMachine
June 19, 2020 at 13:44
What forum is cleaning house for COD ? Strange that you should mention it. I heard a horror clip from the Tsepo clan speaking to some girl in a lobby, Something about a being raped. It was actually disgusting. Made my blood boil, Imagine that kids mother heard him saying that to a woman….
OddSockZA
June 19, 2020 at 14:09
I think that’s exactly the incident that led to the house cleaning.
MechMachine
June 19, 2020 at 14:09
Yeah, Well, I`m glad it’s being sorted.
Kervyn Cloete
June 19, 2020 at 14:43
Yeah it’s actually that incident. Guy was tracked down by the folks on the ZAPA forum, got kicked from his clan and other groups, outed to friends, made to publicly apologize. The ladies who got abused by him and others all got welcomed by other clans, and all the major clans have changed their logos to pink variations (some will even use all pink cosmetics in game) as they’re pledging to not allow any further toxic abuse, whether gender based or not. Was pretty cool to see happen.
MechMachine
June 19, 2020 at 17:36
You really should cover this. It’s cathartic.
MechMachine
June 19, 2020 at 17:36
Holy Busy Friday. Deadlines aside, I seemed to have missed this. Wow. That’s great. Talk about a comeuppance.
True FF Fan
June 19, 2020 at 18:31
wow that is so gay, nothing will ever make me change anything into the color pink
Leon Renner
June 19, 2020 at 14:16
The “minority of people” ruining it? I guess the only “crybaby” is the author himself. The story is complete garbage. Joel is gone, we have to play as his murderer and in the end we lose everything while Missy is sailing away with his/her lover. The plot is simply shit and because Naughty dog and Sony knows that they striked every YouTube channel and Twitter account with false claims that talked about the leaks. And how can you complain now about honest reviews of normal people but don’t get suspicious when like 90 Metascorce reviewers give mostly a 10/10 without any critique?
Btw all the agenda pushing in this game is actually a huge problem. No one I know had a problem with Ellie being lesbian for example but this simple gone to far. It simply is SJW propaganda. If the author of this article, Darryn Bonthuys, or anyone else wants to see transsexuals gay sex or something like this then you don’t have to pay 60 bugs for a game.
Marcelo
June 19, 2020 at 15:39
I see you played the game…the game has 30 hours..c’mon man don’t be a snowflake
True FF Fan
June 19, 2020 at 18:20
pretty sure the only snowflakes are the author, you and the people who made this propaganda game.
ElimGarak
June 19, 2020 at 23:29
I played it for the gameplay alone. Even that didn’t do well.
Dozenn
June 19, 2020 at 14:37
I can’t wait the moment where we won’t make any difference anymore between LGBT and straight people. Cause when we’ll reach this point, people like you will stop existing. You’re a sad person. There is no such concept as SJW propaganda, and even if it existed, it would be there to educate people like you so they finally stop making a difference. The simple fact that you noticed that they were not straight proves that there is a lot of progress to do still. Stop giving a shit and grow up.
RinceThis
June 19, 2020 at 14:37
Amen.
Stoompot
June 19, 2020 at 14:49
The problem is forced inclusivity and agendas. They’re the ones who moaned. Hollywood replied by being more woke and failing horribly. Look at the dumpster fire the last SW trilogy was. Now it’s spun out of control and we either have to endure this cringe or just not watch the movie. Oh but then men get blamed for not rocking up when a movie tanks.
Dozenn
June 19, 2020 at 15:47
My point is to stop giving a shit, to stop pointing with the finger some subjectivity feeling about stuff. Let’s stop giving a fucking shit about things, it’s fascinating how people need to react to everything. That’s why the author is talking about “babies”, cause it’s impressive to invest so much to hate something so harmless.
But hey, it’s your life guys, I’m gonna go back to things that matter while you make it a big deal and something to fight against. (just by saying it, it gives me the creeps)
Stoompot
June 19, 2020 at 16:14
No, because that’s the problem with society. This is why things like DLC and micro transactions are just accepted. Because people became normalised and stopped giving a shit. Now we have unholy sex scenes and we should just not give a shit and accept it because we’re told to buy 10/10 shills. Fuck that. I’m not a sheep.
Dozenn
June 19, 2020 at 16:35
unholy ? what do you mean, it’s pegi 18 dude ! You compare a sex scene for adult content with microtransactions that create addictions and money abuse to people. You’re mixing completely different stuff. Caring about an “unholy” (<- wtf) sex scene is incredible. I think you have better to do with your time. Like focusing on stuff you like for example.
Dozenn
June 19, 2020 at 16:35
when you watch a tv show about Rome, there are some orgies all the time ! Do we complain about SJW in those cases ? But TLOS 2 it’s a huge problem apparently, wtf people.
True FF Fan
June 19, 2020 at 18:16
SJWs in rome? There might be some inaccuracies in the shows you watch…
ElimGarak
June 19, 2020 at 23:29
Is that Rome around today? Asking for a friend.
Gr8_Balls_o_Fire
July 11, 2020 at 10:42
That Rome did not fall due to “SJW-ism”. Telling for your friend.
Stoompot
June 19, 2020 at 16:35
I liked the first game fine, now we have this pandering product
True FF Fan
June 19, 2020 at 18:16
Ummm, yes, unholy, broken sexual preferences are against god’s rules and since he is the one that determines what is holy or not, gay is unholy, no ifs, ands or buts about it.
btw, I’m not religious, don’t believe in am old white bearded god chilling on clouds watching over us. However, gay is still wrong because it is anti-nature.
Weanerdog
June 19, 2020 at 19:12
Anti-nature, interesting concept. It is however inaccurate. Also you say Holy but fail to cite a deity. Like there is only one god or something. Except actually that’s a minority belief.
CodeDisQus
June 20, 2020 at 00:34
GTFO, lol anti-nature, look at this clown….
MechMachine
June 22, 2020 at 12:37
Bro, I tried to stay out of this, but as soon as you say stuff like that you lose all credibility. What’s your point ? You are basically screaming into the abyss and nobody is listening. You’re not fighting any noble cause, you’re just venting and carrying on like a child in a supermarket who wants a toy, but your Mother won’t buy it. Probably stomping your feet.
Here’s a life tip, use your discretion. If you don’t like what you see, don’t buy it. Would you make that statement in a Job interview ?
Gavin Mannion
June 22, 2020 at 13:05
Thanks I didn’t see that in the comment, it’s been removed as we don’t accept slurs like that
GenMasterB
June 19, 2020 at 19:01
1 question. You seen the scene with Dr. Uckmann? Until then, shhhhhhh….
ElimGarak
June 19, 2020 at 23:29
Sex scenes aren’t mature. Anyone aware of the science and what they do to your brain knows that they’re cheap. Children will be exposed to it and they shouldn’t be. Games are about gameplay. Sex scenes very, VERY rarely serve any purpose at all.
311hitwall .
June 20, 2020 at 03:58
You are right. The attitude of Dozenn is what caused the mess we are in now. Promoting something that goes against the natural order of things and then expecting people to bow down and accept it as normal.
CodeDisQus
June 20, 2020 at 00:34
How do you know that the 10/10 reviews were bought? What proof do you have?
Nah
June 22, 2020 at 06:32
Jesus you really don’t think do you. REVIEWS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN BOUGHT. IT ISN’T BRAND NEW. IT HAPPENS WITH MOVIES/TV SHOWS/BOOKS/MUSIC/GAMES.
CodeDisQus
June 22, 2020 at 11:30
So essentially, your argument is to say that. It ALWAYS HAPPENS. With no legit proof. There have been plenty of stories of games journalists saying that that is NOT the case. Just look online, and please go to ACTUAL journalist, not youtubers who know that those videos will get them a TON of views.
To clarify, I am not saying that the games industry is free of any unsavory activities, what I’m saying is that it’s absolute shit to say that reviews have been bought just because the opinions of the reviewer differs to yours.
Gr8_Balls_o_Fire
July 11, 2020 at 09:54
What is a holy sex scene then? Is that where the participants scream “oh God oh God oh God” when humping?
Leon Renner
June 19, 2020 at 21:44
Okay, I guess I get it now. You dont want people to talk about this, right? Like they can pay with their money for this game, but then please shut up, if someone dont like it or wants to complain in any way about it. Silence everyone, because YOU dont want hear anyone critique about this. This is some next level safe space shit. Call the special victims unit, guys. We got a snowflake melting down.
bigevilworldwide1 .
June 19, 2020 at 18:28
Which forced exclusivity is that exactly? Its hilarious you can spot the morons that watched youtube videos and didn’t play the game…Abby isn’t a transgender, and the only 1 gay character Ellie and Dina sounds bi and its barely even brought up that Ellie is gay after 2 cut scenes yet not specifically said….But you go on ahead and have some bigot sandwiches…IF there is some agenda and forced inclusivity, they’re really bad at it there isn’t any forcing
Anton Green
June 20, 2020 at 01:02
“forced inclusivity and agendas” as if the bombardment of heterosexual relationships and anti-lgbt propoganda in films throughout the decades wasn’t forced upon us. Guess it’s only an issue when it’s forced on straight people. Here’s the thing – LGBT people love inclusivity. They love to see themselves being represented by the media, and if that feels forced on you bc it doesn’t fit into the narrative of your life or represent your interests, go suck a dong. There’s PLENTY of straight media for you to gorge yourself on and slobber all over. You don’t have to participate in LGBT media.
Cap285
June 28, 2020 at 14:53
Maybe create your own shit instead of stealing established IP’s with fan bases.
Jeff Case
June 29, 2020 at 08:55
The media needs to be separated into your entertainment and our entertainment. We’ve had enough of your camps disgusting behavior and attempts to force everyone to agree with your worldview. If you want to watch 2 gender ambiguous perverts dry hump it out on a subway car, make your own shit entertainment and stop trying to hijack ours. Until then stop whining when people who don’t like your opinions or your cringe-worthy bullshit excuse for “inclusivity” state their opinions. We’ve had to endure yours long enough.
Jeff Case
June 29, 2020 at 08:55
The media needs to be separated into your entertainment and our entertainment. We’ve had enough of your camps disgusting behavior and attempts to force everyone to agree with your worldview. If you want to watch 2 gender ambiguous perverts dry hump it out on a subway car, make your own shit entertainment and stop trying to hijack ours. Until then stop whining when people who don’t like your opinions or your cringe-worthy bullshit excuse for “inclusivity” state their opinions. We’ve had to endure yours long enough.
SmokyOwl
July 3, 2020 at 01:47
Forcing LGBT values on the general public is pretty much the same as forcing, I don’t know, archeology on the public. Like the fact that the majority of people on the planet don’t care about archeology, is mirrored by the majority of the people on the planet that are hetero. Why don’t we start marveling on ancient fossils on television because it’s oh so awesome because archeologists love it?
For the Emperor!
June 19, 2020 at 16:14
For me, there is a difference between being a Social Justice Activist (which I think we all should be), and being a Social Justice Warrior (people who quite often just take things too radical and do not allow dialogue). SJA do “dialogue, education and redemption”, SJW do “cancellation, no education and no chance of redemption ever”
Dozenn
June 19, 2020 at 16:28
It’s just subjectives labels you’re giving to some cliches you encounter. The important thing is, “who wants to have sex with who” in this game should be the last of our problems, really.
True FF Fan
June 19, 2020 at 18:16
Nope, we already have a justice system in place, nothing called Social Justice is any good.
bigevilworldwide1 .
June 19, 2020 at 18:33
Sorry but are you severely autistic? Maybe you should go back to elementary school so you can actually learn what Social justice actually is, because clearly you are too stupid and think its something that its not really…
ElimGarak
June 19, 2020 at 20:59
Your school with your communist teachers is where you learn it.
Sadly, it has no practical uses and doesn’t accomplish anything. Shocker.
Name one thing your loony bin friends have accomplished. I’ll wait.
I ain’t religious but even I know Christians do more locally and globally than most. SJWs… Beg for handouts in “The Chaz”. Idiot.
Thisissomegarbage
June 20, 2020 at 07:09
You’re a bit of a bitch, aren’t you
True FF Fan
June 19, 2020 at 18:16
hahahahhahahahhahahahahhahahahahahhahajahahahahhahahahah did he actually say there is no such thing as SJW Propaganda?????? omg, I’m gonna pee myself. Talk about being clueless about brainwashing (well, I guess that is the point of brainwashing, to make you think the ideas are your own and to not know you are being forced an opinion.)
Also, we won’t make anymore difference between LGBT and non-broken people??? Ummm, that will be a sad day for humanity, when we fully pretend that broken people using their sexual organs wrong are the same as normal people who use them properly… Since we are at it, can’t wait for the day that there are no difference between sane people and clinicly insane people… LOL
Leon Renner
June 19, 2020 at 15:19
“Oh buhu, you’re sad that people are mean? Well I’m sorry. The world isn’t one big liberal arts college campus.” (Reality)
Propaganda is nothing to “educate” people. Alone the fact you think using propaganda for the “right purpose” tells me that we need to get ride of people like you, ideologs and demagogues, for a better world.
Stop making it a political thing. I hate the story because its bs, but that doesn’t mean I hate gays or lesbians in rl. I just hate this one guy/girl for killing my favourite character in the game. How hard can it be to understand this?
bigevilworldwide1 .
June 19, 2020 at 18:31
Abby is a woman……She’s not trans that was something morons were pushing because surely a woman who works out must either be gay or trans according to low IQ idiots….There are zero trans people in the game, just like there is no “agenda or propaganda in the game…Hell Its never even specifically stated out loud that Eliie is gay and Dina is bi…Probably because intelligent people don’t sit fixated on what everyone’s sexual preference is in a video game….Its hilarious when people start shitting their diaper because they have to play as a gay character
GenMasterB
June 19, 2020 at 19:12
Why do you keep harping on am issue that really isn’t an issue. People are upset that their favorite characters are killed off.. Why are you so focused on gay?
Project: Mayhem
June 20, 2020 at 01:10
Are you blind? Abby is a male.
ElimGarak
June 19, 2020 at 20:59
No woman can be that size in the world they’re trying to convince us exists.
Sincerely an athlete. Takes years to fine tune a body. A woman? Takes many more years and a lot of supplements. This bitch got a lifetime pass to the only fitness center in America left standing? Get real.
CodeDisQus
June 20, 2020 at 00:40
You’re upset, that the chick is buff….. WOW!! Shit’s weak man
ElimGarak
June 20, 2020 at 00:40
Like a typical moron SJW, you read exactly what you wanted to.
The thing you’re looking at is physically impossible in the world they’re attempting to immerse me in. You don’t understand that because you chug soy.
I’ve been boxing for the last 5 years, being an athlete isnt easy. Being a body builder, as a female, in the apocalypse? Even more far fetched. Do you have any idea how biologically difficult it is to pull that feat off? Go and look at the lady they based her on, that regime she follows isn’t possible in the world I’m supposed to believe. Why does that go over your head?
CodeDisQus
June 20, 2020 at 10:43
Just a quick question, please explain how the Marines in Gears of War maintained their MASSIVE biceps despite living in a world that is probably WORSE than that of TLOU?
Because I honestly feel like you’re reaching here…
ElimGarak
June 20, 2020 at 10:43
Comparing to entirely different worlds attempting to be built. Not to mention, contrasting them. You could have picked a much better game than Gear of Snore, but thanks for going for the Xbox crap. Just confirmed my suspicions that you’re a retarded shill for Sony.
CodeDisQus
June 20, 2020 at 10:48
You still haven’t answered my question?
Gr8_Balls_o_Fire
July 11, 2020 at 10:05
That was such a weak retort, if a retort at all. Lol
ElimGarak
July 11, 2020 at 10:05
Claims without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. Your understand of suspension of disbelief is minimal. Your opinion on writing is based on less knowledge, not more. You are irrelevant.
Gr8_Balls_o_Fire
July 11, 2020 at 10:19
So how about blessing us ignorant fools with your retort on characters in post-apocalyptic games OTHER than “Gears of Snore”, being even more buff/athletic than in TLOU?
Examples as cited before; Dayz Gone (PS EXCLUSIVE BTW, OMG YAAAYYYY), Mad Max, Rage, etc.
How about some evidence of boxing w/l record as well?
Gr8_Balls_o_Fire
June 23, 2020 at 12:29
And the Cordiceps infection isn’t far-fetched at all, right?
ElimGarak
June 23, 2020 at 15:22
It’s almost like suspension of disbelief is what’s required to make your paste drinking theory shatter.
Is their a vat of paint thinner you should be swimming in? How is such a basic premise comletely foreign to you? That’s like saying Star Wars is shit because it has space stuff that isn’t real. No. Fucking. Shit. That is the part we all agree isn’t real, but do so to fluff up the story.
The rest of this game world has ZERO characters like her. Hell, the other main character is a twig as are the rest of the women. Why is she so preposterously different? Like some other moron mentioned earlier with Gears, imagine taking one of those meat head men and dropping them into this world. Would it seem realistic? Make sense? Fit in? No. You would roll your eyes.
Gr8_Balls_o_Fire
July 1, 2020 at 12:37
Did you miss the Stadium setting? Where there’s a big gym and lots of people are using it, training for survival fitness? Fits right in with the premise.
ElimGarak
July 1, 2020 at 17:23
No, it does not. As you understand nothing of how a WOMAN can achieve that goal.
Gr8_Balls_o_Fire
July 11, 2020 at 09:49
Point.
Your head.
ElimGarak
July 11, 2020 at 11:59
You need a point first, paste drinker.
Gr8_Balls_o_Fire
July 11, 2020 at 12:14
I have it. It’s above your head. Can’t believe that had to be explained 😀
Gr8_Balls_o_Fire
July 11, 2020 at 10:05
There’s a clue in the game as to the surprising amount of food available in the setting. You should play the game. It’s great fun.
naturallythe1
June 20, 2020 at 07:26
If this was a game based on today’s time with no apocalypse, he’d have no reason to be upset. But it’s at a time when food is scarce and supplements would be outdated. You NEED that to be big. You can’t just lift weights and eat little and gain muscle. So in all fairness, it’s just pushing the narrative of “big strong women.”
CodeDisQus
June 20, 2020 at 10:38
But I mean, to be upset about this is a pretty weak, there have been COUNTLESS other games where you have buff guys running around the apocalypse, so I’m wondering, did that also cause drama.
Gears of War, Mad Max, Days Gone…..I’m pretty sure that staying cut, eating lean and finding supplement was also impossible in those worlds. Yet that doesn’t seem to bother anyone?
If we’re going to be that critical, most of the people in the game should be scrawny AF and unfit.
Nah
June 22, 2020 at 06:38
I work out dude, you cannot get that buff unless you have work out machines or equipment very close to gym stuff. Working out just about every day for 2 yrs. Even then its post apocolyptic? Where tf are they getting all this protein from? The chicken breast shop down the street?
CodeDisQus
June 22, 2020 at 11:35
I 100% agree with you on this. I too dabble in the workout world. My gripe is that the OP is using this as a reason to bash the game, when this is done SO consistently in gaming. Gears of War Marines have bodybuilders biceps yet live in a post apocalyptic world, Mad Max, SAME story, Rage 1 and Rage 2 and many more where the lead character or any other character is BUFF AF, yet that does little to spoil the experience, so why now?
naturallythe1
June 20, 2020 at 07:26
Biggest thing is protein. What the hell is she eating and how MUCH is she eating to stay that shape? It’s just unrealistic. Food would be limited in ANY community they are in due to having to share. Guys could be fit also in this setting, but not buff
ElimGarak
June 20, 2020 at 09:27
Protein honestly isn’t that crazy. Wild game probably covers it. Carbs? Nope. Supps? Nope. Training facility? Doubtful, nothing we see in game anyways. Nothing the woman they model her after obviously uses. Preposterously large men wouldn’t even be a thing, nothing defined anyways. They would all have fat on them. Low body fat in that environment seems unlikely, especially for a woman. I don’t care that something like that exists in a game, I do care that the world is now completely broken to support an unrealistic character. May as well throw Captain America in there for shits and giggles.
Cap285
June 28, 2020 at 14:54
Abby got huge on rat steaks and rainwater.
Ancient Evidence
June 23, 2020 at 22:12
So the livestock in the stadium had nothing to do with this? A gym room for soldiers? Jesus
ElimGarak
June 23, 2020 at 22:17
That is correct. The perfect conditions that need to exist to create that body cannot exist in the world I’m supposed to be immersed in.
Cannot be done.
It would be just as retarded to have Gears of War meat heads walking around. There’s a limit as to what your biology will let you do, more so with environmental constraints.
There’s a reason they had to find a very talented athlete to base her build on. An athlete dedicated to that body, not an OUNCE of what Abbey is actually capable of.
I love when couch potato activists try to explain this away to a real athlete. As if I don’t know what I’m talking about.
Gr8_Balls_o_Fire
July 11, 2020 at 10:05
What about the absurd growth rate of the trees on the streets in the dilapidated cities?
I don’t see any complaints about the lack of realism there?
Bollen Berger
June 22, 2020 at 21:21
You’re objectively wrong when saying there are no trans people in the game since Lev is trans.
Sibongile N
June 24, 2020 at 00:36
Lev isn’t really trans at all. She’s just a girl who decided to dress up as a boy to not become a sex slave. She’s more like Mulan. Or is Mulan trans now?
Cap285
June 28, 2020 at 14:53
Low IQ idiots? Explain how that thing built and maintained that physique in a post-apocalyptic wasteland.
It’s punching zombies for chrissake.
RinceThis
June 19, 2020 at 15:19
Hold on internet! I got this one! To quote a term recently used ‘Oh BUHU, you’re sad that people are mean?’ https://media.giphy.com/media/p0RDMJGgMXF96/source.gif
Gr8_Balls_o_Fire
June 20, 2020 at 20:19
Dude, I am gone for a couple of months and see this? Who are these new ones??
Nah
June 22, 2020 at 06:38
and yet no one agreed with this sad sad man.
Sibongile N
June 24, 2020 at 00:36
He reminds me of Linus from peanuts
https://media0.giphy.com/media/AYKv7lXcZSJig/giphy.gif
GenMasterB
June 19, 2020 at 18:51
“people like you will stop existing”? Wow and you’re talking about hate? GIVE ME A BREAK.. If you could kill half of America, you’d do it without blinking an eye..
You are sad…
ElimGarak
June 19, 2020 at 20:59
If it were a button, I’d say byebye to all the degenerates all the same. Communists aren’t people, they’re property of the state. If they succeed they’re the first ones to die anyways. Who cares?
ElimGarak
June 19, 2020 at 20:59
SJW propaganda doesn’t exist? No, ma’am, your critical thinking skills don’t exist.
Cap285
June 28, 2020 at 14:53
People like us will stop existing? How pray tell would you do this? SJW propaganda does exist. It’s been destroying IP’s since 2016.
Grawmps
August 12, 2020 at 00:00
So when parents force kids below the age of consent to take hormone blockers and then writers similar to this journalist praises it, that’s not “propaganda”? Because that’s the road you are on.
Grawmps
August 12, 2020 at 00:00
So when parents force kids below the age of consent to take hormone blockers and then writers similar to this journalist praises it, that’s not “propaganda”? Because that’s the road you are on.
ElimGarak
June 19, 2020 at 20:59
Minorities can’t tank averages that badly.
However, Sony can definitely pay for reviews and for meta critic to take on a lot more new “game reviewers” in the critic section than most other games.
Called this happening right after the leaks. I was right. I am vindicated. Feels good.
CodeDisQus
June 20, 2020 at 10:38
Proof of paid reviews??
ElimGarak
June 20, 2020 at 10:43
They’re beholden to most major publishers for ad revenue. The sheer scale of new reviewers is off the charts on Meta Critic (who has been caught screwing with the numbers).
If you can’t read between the lines, that’s a you problem. I’ve indulged your global retardation long enough, enjoy the mute.
CodeDisQus
June 20, 2020 at 11:23
If you think this was happening, don’t you think that it would have been outsed by now. How popular and revered would that specific journalist be?
I know for a fact that there are some unsavoury practices in the industry (as there are in most), but until I read/see actually proof of paid reviews. Multiple journalists have stated that it simply doesn’t happen. Maybe just maybe we must try and view the review scores as one person’s rating of a game, as if they were any person. This baseless narrative is weak.
Also, just because the reviewer give a game a score that you do not agree with, doesn’t make them biased, Means that their opinion is different to yours…
Nah
June 22, 2020 at 06:32
Lets see if you leave a negative review right now on metacritic you get a error 503. Yet positive reviews keep appearing. Sounds pretty rigged to me.
CodeDisQus
June 22, 2020 at 12:04
I just tried to post a positive and negative review and neither worked…..
Pr0j3ct97
June 19, 2020 at 15:05
If people think this story is a masterpiece, I’ll go as far to say that you need some brain examination. In which fucking parallel universe is this story a good story if all it does is shit on the first games story? Darryn I really hope you think hard about your article because it’s not just a small bunch.
The D
June 19, 2020 at 15:05
Pretty sure pre-order numbers and the first week sales figures will disagree 🙂
Pr0j3ct97
June 19, 2020 at 15:05
Oh my greatness am I glad you replied 😀 so with that said, let’s talk. Obviously the sales and stuff will be blind people planning to play knowing nothing, let’s just wait and see what they have to say after completing it.
Wybrem
June 19, 2020 at 20:59
Ye the sales will be good. What did this woke mod expect? It’s been shilled to hell and back by the shill media such as this crappy website that barely anyone uses.
naturallythe1
June 20, 2020 at 07:16
Many of the user reviews ARE from people that hid spoilers and are now outraged by it. He acts like it’s just people that wanted to hate the game no matter what just to be different. I LOVED the first game. FANS loved the first game. Critics loved the first game. But now, critics seem to be the only ones that LOVE this sequel. All-around the sequel is far from the first. It’s a 7 at best and that is simply because of the graphics and slightly improved gameplay. But it’s too long, too much filler, has plenty of boring parts in and the best storytelling relies on Joel flashbacks. When your story is that crappy that you have to rely on Joel FLASHBACKS to keep interest, you know the game doesn’t deserve a PERFECT score. It’s a polished turd
naturallythe1
June 20, 2020 at 07:16
Many of the user reviews ARE from people that hid spoilers and are now outraged by it. He acts like it’s just people that wanted to hate the game no matter what just to be different. I LOVED the first game. FANS loved the first game. Critics loved the first game. But now, critics seem to be the only ones that LOVE this sequel. All-around the sequel is far from the first. It’s a 7 at best and that is simply because of the graphics and slightly improved gameplay. But it’s too long, too much filler, has plenty of boring parts in and the best storytelling relies on Joel flashbacks. When your story is that crappy that you have to rely on Joel FLASHBACKS to keep interest, you know the game doesn’t deserve a PERFECT score. It’s a polished turd
True FF Fan
June 19, 2020 at 18:09
hahahahahhahahaha, not too much of thinker, are ya? Pre-orders (and launch sales numbers) are based on popularity, not quality. Are you telling me that you actually believe that everyone that pre-orders games gets to fully play the game first so they can see if they like it, then they can pre-order… hahahhahahah Sorry fool, but pre-orders are a shot in the dark. I have regretted sooo many games I have pre-ordered, but according to your mentality, then I must’ve loved every single game I pre-ordered. hahahahah, someone get this liberal a clue.
Strafrecht
June 19, 2020 at 18:09
Lots of preorders were cancelled. I cancelled mine and many of my friends did the same.
Nah
June 22, 2020 at 06:20
Guaranteed naughty dog is only using pre-order numbers before leaks.
GenMasterB
June 19, 2020 at 18:33
Look, I’m on your side, but if you’re trying to get people to agree with you, quit disrespecting the person your commenting to by calling them names, especially if you’re trying to get them to understand your side. All that does is piss them off and then they’d never side with you.
Pr0j3ct97
June 19, 2020 at 20:30
yeah i agree with you, i really held back on insulting the article writer out of respecting their dignity hence why i generalized when i said my opening but seriously, he needs to re-evaluate everything again. Everyone and their mother hates what the story has become, a lovable protagonist gets killed in the most stupidest way possible and all the opportunity to get revenge is given but it doesn’t happen, Neil Cuckmann really f’d up. That’s my opinion, I won’t buy the game, everyone have a good evening
ElimGarak
June 19, 2020 at 23:01
Not an argument.
Pryometrix
June 21, 2020 at 14:43
Bro calm down, can’t everyone have their own opinion, why make it personal and call people names?
True FF Fan
June 19, 2020 at 18:09
hahahahahhahahaha, not too much of thinker, are ya? Pre-orders (and launch sales numbers) are based on popularity, not quality. Are you telling me that you actually believe that everyone that pre-orders games gets to fully play the game first so they can see if they like it, then they can pre-order… hahahhahahah Sorry fool, but pre-orders are a shot in the dark. I have regretted sooo many games I have pre-ordered, but according to your mentality, then I must’ve loved every single game I pre-ordered. hahahahah, someone get this liberal a clue.
Anthony Garcia
June 20, 2020 at 02:18
That what you think? Considering that people have been waiting for this game for 7 years and the first one was one of the best games for the PS4 if not the best. They have to be disappointed. You know people are in damage control when CNN reports on it ??? Should have been so much more but people today are too concerned with pushing garbage.
ElimGarak
June 19, 2020 at 23:01
Sales are not indicative of quality. If they were, there’s a lot really bad games you think are better.
Mass Effect 1 didn’t sell near as much. It’s better in literally every way and aged better than the first TLOU.
CodeDisQus
June 20, 2020 at 10:38
Result: L
ElimGarak
June 20, 2020 at 10:38
Sales probably won’t good. Public disapproves.
That’s a W.
CodeDisQus
June 20, 2020 at 11:23
Let’s wait and see…. Pre-Orders are higher than Spider-Man, so on track to do well…
Nah
June 22, 2020 at 06:20
Pre-order numbers they are using before the leaks. Its been available to pre-order for some time so guaranteed they aren’t showing losses after.
CodeDisQus
June 22, 2020 at 11:39
I cannot comment on the pre-order comment, but as of today, the game is the highest selling game in the UK by a LONG margin, so I think that it is safe to say that the game will sell really well
naturallythe1
June 20, 2020 at 07:09
And the cancellation numbers will be HUGE also! But we won’t hear about that somehow…those numbers will be hidden. Hey, if you’re odd enough to love this sequel, more power to you…but don’t act like you loved the first game and its story because the sequel doesn’t come close to the original and actively sh*ts on it. They even made the character dumber in time from the first game…the side characters aren’t even as good as the first game’s either. Sam and Henry in ONE hour of gameplay is better than any side character in the sequel. I considered the first game to be my all-time favorite game. I bought merch of all kinds and was pumped about the sequel. Then the leaks came out and I was glad to see them and cancel. Then actual gameplay came out and I saw much of the game and story and am already sick of watching it halfway in. I don’t need to watch the rest either since it’s filler and the ending doesn’t even complete the cycle of revenge like Drunkmann claims the game is about. When the sequel’s story is bad enough to make you consider trying to forget the first game, you know they messed up.
Pryometrix
June 21, 2020 at 14:43
Calm down, shit… so because someone enjoys it they are odd now? Great think about being human is we all don’t think alike and have differing opinions.
naturallythe1
June 22, 2020 at 09:31
It’s just odd to like such a shitty story that dumped on the first game. Most gamers don’t like it if you go off of Google, Metacritic or IMDB. And I use insults because anyone that doesn’t like the game is also insulted and called “babies”
James Sanders
June 20, 2020 at 13:14
Dude the story is like really bad, just like GoT season 8. It’s that bad man. Have you actually played the game ?
Gr8_Balls_o_Fire
June 20, 2020 at 20:24
D-Man, I agree with you. Don’t worry about these newbies. Seem like ‘muricans
Nah
June 22, 2020 at 06:20
Except I’m sure they’re using numbers before the leaks. Guaranteed a good chunk refunded the game after.
ElimGarak
June 23, 2020 at 22:17
Fun fact, when a game gets review bombed by angry consumers, the week after is where sales drop off.
Shame Sony is forcing metacritic to delete “phony” 0 reviews without removing the 10s. As if a game can be a 10 but can’t be a 0.
Petruzpadda
June 25, 2020 at 15:23
Did the author actually make this statement?? Do you even game bro… Seriously do you know how the industry works?
ElimGarak
June 19, 2020 at 23:01
That’s the clown world we live in. First game is a master piece…but so is the second and trashes it.
Truth is, the first isn’t that great. The story is a B movie. The gameplay is dated and doesn’t stand up to time nor games of its time and genre. The sequel, without the help of far more talented workers, couldn’t hold a candle to the few decent things the first one did. Like normal feeling characters you can relate to.
James Sebastian Roa
June 19, 2020 at 16:14
It’s a hyper mean spirited game, horrible storyline, terrible character tropes. It should have been left alone as it finish perfectly at the end of the first game. This is an all out political message.
True FF Fan
June 19, 2020 at 18:28
yeah, we all knew this a long time before it was released, we all saw it coming and we all let it happen, shame on us
Aussious
June 19, 2020 at 16:28
Wow that escalated quickly…
Walter clements
June 19, 2020 at 17:36
Imagine being this retarded
Gazz
June 19, 2020 at 17:36
Fuck this article.
Random User
June 19, 2020 at 18:20
that article is as misleading a ND advertisements
And that ”Critical Hit Comment Policy Don’t be a jerk” bs when author of article is calling reviewers babies, get a load on him
Strafrecht
June 19, 2020 at 18:28
Writer is a jerk. He should follow his own comment policy.
True FF Fan
June 19, 2020 at 18:31
liberals, being a hypocrite is a bragging point for them…
CodeDisQus
June 20, 2020 at 11:23
Go and take a look at the metacritic user reviewers, some went up a couple of hours after the game was released and they literally have 1 or 2 lines. TONS of the reviewers suspiciously have 1 review. So yea, definitely looks like review bombing IMO.
Nah
June 22, 2020 at 06:20
and yet the critics are calling it a 95, there is no well in hell its a 95.
Lets say its not being review bombed and its at 78. It isn’t NOT good enough to be a 95.
CodeDisQus
June 22, 2020 at 11:39
I actually don’t understand what you mean? The critics have had review copies for a while now so they have made their mind up and given it the score they deserve, whether you agree on the score or not is up to you. Whether its a 95 or 78, it is what it is. However, how is it that the mere HOURS after the game has been made available to the public, the game was rated 0 by users. The game is supposed to be 23 hours long. So are you telling me that players got through a 24hr game in 2/3 hours and rated it fairly. Come on man….
Also let’s be real, Doom Eternal came out a couple of months ago and has less than 10k reviews, TLOU2 was out for a day and had 20k + reviews…
Nah
June 22, 2020 at 06:20
Another tumblr ‘journalist’ I for real feel like that is just a resume site for future article publishers on crap sites like this.
Nurotic
June 19, 2020 at 23:02
Darryn Bonthuys, if people don’t like the story and say so, why do you feel that makes them babies? To write and publish something belittling the opinions of others seems arrogant. You know what actually prevents “fantastic conversations” … name calling, rather than engaging others in respectful discussion. I’m certain some of these reviews are in bad faith, but your prejudice towards these people’s opinions shows just as much bad faith.
Ygnlight
June 19, 2020 at 19:11
Are you dumb , stupid or dumb? This game is shit the story was better in the 1st one take the dick outta you’re mouth for once … Dumb fanboy, ppl who give the game a bad review are considered babies??? Seriously? You just can’t handle the truth for you’re trashy game lmao
Manuel Jesus Mtz
June 19, 2020 at 19:12
For someone who preaches about gamers being so hateful, the author sure seems like a bitter person who can’t handle the idea that not everyone is gonna enjoy a story that is the equivalent of teaming up with your school bully so you can beat up your best friend.
Just saying.
ElimGarak
June 19, 2020 at 23:29
That’s because he’s not a gamer, like anyone who attempts to claim gamers are toxic. They have a tertiary connection to the industry. That’s it.
Thund3rbunny
June 19, 2020 at 19:19
If you really think people are review bombing for the sake of it…. but this time they have an actual point.
The story is BEYOND bad, there’s an political LBGWTF agenda shoved down your throat that litterally nobody wanted, and they make you play as a character that’s a total piece of shit for 50% of the game. I don’t have a problem with gay/trasngender people, i’m bisexual myself. It’s the way it’s pusehd down your throat that upsets me and does more harm then good. This is the perfect example of how NOT to go about it.
Sony/ND could have had a multi million dollar franchise here but instead this game pretty much destroys it, nails the coffin shut and then pours then tonne of concrete over it.
Real Talk
June 19, 2020 at 19:25
Imagine thinking that hype/pre-order sales translates into a game actually being amazing.
It’s the carry over from what the first game was, anyone that has now played the second should know that it’s garbage.
The story is extremely weak, the political agenda pushing is disgustingly transparent, and honestly just all around it isn’t that great of a game.
I get that you have an opinion on the game, but this entire post is part of what’s wrong with media in general, this idea that “if you don’t agree with me its because you’re all babies”…
No dude, when THAT many people review bomb a game like this, it’s because they have legitimate reasons for it that you just want to ignore because god forbid you accept the truth about forced diversity ruining the quality of story telling.
This is basically the reverse situation of the whole Rotten Tomatoes incident with Dave Chappelles Netflix special, where the critics straight up LIED and gave it a 0, while actual users that watched the whole thing gave it a 9-10/10. The critics that are giving this game 90+ are flat out lying, because there’s no way an objective person within their right mind can give such an embarrassingly weak story and clear forced diversity, such a high score.
Thankfully we have a TRUE GOTY contender coming out soon in the form of Ghost of Tsushima, a game which will absolutely shit all over TLOU2 and quickly remind people what a great game actually is.
The way you’ve written this and basically slandered people is an embarrassment and shows a gigantic amount of insecurity in you as a writer, so I for one won’t be coming back to this shit.
ElimGarak
June 19, 2020 at 23:29
Fortnite, Call of Duty and Fifa are the only games we ever need if sales and players are anything to go by.
Right? I’m I clinging to the right false equivalencies yet?
Commenter
June 19, 2020 at 20:12
Killing people fun. How intelligent. Violent entertainment is pornography of the worst sort for the most depraved.
CodeDisQus
June 20, 2020 at 00:34
The fact that the metacritic USer score has 15000+ ratings and that Doom eternal, a game that came out MONTHS ago has 1500+ ratings pretty much proves how ridiculous the babies are. I mean, if you go into the experience wanting to hate it……well, you’re most likely gonna hate it
BZ98
June 19, 2020 at 20:23
I wouldn’t call TLOU2 art by any definition, I’d default more to “self-masturbatory misery porn with gigantic plot-holes.”
Bob
June 19, 2020 at 20:24
Here are some facts that this article, forgot to add maybe because it was a force love story, a force Joel death, a force agenda.
CodeDisQus
June 20, 2020 at 00:46
Real talk: The LAst of US part 2 came out at midnight on the morning of the 19th of June 2020, the game is supposedly 30 hours long, with supposed fast players finishing it in 23 hours. At time of writing this comment, it’s 00:29 on the 20th of June 2020, so how in the HELL are y’all supposed to have finished this game??? I mean do y’all not work and eat??
Seriously how many people saw the end credits for this game?? I need to know??
Son of Banana Jim
June 20, 2020 at 01:10
Quite a few actually, xQcOW’s stream was 16 hours long, from start to closing credits. Granted of course, he managed to get the game earlier than most (a couple of hours to be precise), and basically just ploughed through it in a day (yesterday). I watched the stream in parts during the day, ran it in the background and finished it in the evening.
Mossel
June 25, 2020 at 15:04
Exactly. I only finished on Tuesday, most of the 0/10 reviews are on the same day as the release from gamers, not cirtics. How is that possible?
Bob
June 19, 2020 at 20:37
I would have love playing as ellie, do to some stuff, begin in the game , also mine last comment had real points to a certain degree,this is why I don’t take these articles serious.
Project: Mayhem
June 20, 2020 at 01:10
The storyline was absolute garbage and the author knows it. He just has to continue to push the SJW narrative. We should have known. The leaks had 70% of Naughty Fog leaving over this crap. This game completely ignores everything the first game set up. You have to play as Joel’s killer? WTF? That could have been salvaged if it set Ellie on a rampage but she lets the killer go at the end? WTF? You have to ask yourself after finding out the disaster of a character that Abby is, it’s not wonder that he/she wasn’t mentioned in the trailers. Even Sony knew, once they saw the finished product, that this was not going to be good. They pushed it back a month because of the coronavirus. The virus wasn’t going away in a month. Naughty Dog set out to push a DJW narrative instead of just telling a quality story. It’s about time that The entertainment industry follow the saying, “If you go woke, you go broke!”
Mossel
June 25, 2020 at 15:04
Bloody hell dude. Have you stopped to think that perhaps you need to play as Joels killer for a reason?
Dingus
June 19, 2020 at 21:45
This game is a fucking pile of shit. I can’t believe how money can make a game this bad look good. Video game critics shouldn’t be paid anything if this the result. If you really think this game deserves anything more than a 3/10 I insist you to find the nearest bridge and jump without hesitation because your brain isn’t worth the oxygen its getting.
Anthony Garcia
June 20, 2020 at 02:09
Only one crying here is the author. Ahhh people have a different opinion you? Fuck out of here. No one wants to play this garbage. Ruined the first one playability
John Bli
June 20, 2020 at 02:24
Amen to this. Author probably can’t even see he’s the saltiest baby of them all. What a fool.
Jeffrey B
June 19, 2020 at 22:11
This Article is Sponsored by Sony..
how i know?.. because of the huge as* TLOU AD banner on both sides of this website
007
June 19, 2020 at 22:25
This game is trash.
Son of Banana Jim
June 19, 2020 at 22:45
After the leaks, there wasn’t a chance in a hell I was going to buy this game (especially at launch). I was kind of holding out for most of it being false, but after spending the last couple of hours watching xQcOWs complete stream of the game (an extravaganza live stream on twitch of just over 16 hours). I have to say, I’m glad I didn’t spend money on it.
This is definitely this generation’s Mass Effect 3 – a promising and at times stunningly beautiful sequel that suffered at the hands of its creators (and quite frankly became a victim of the extreme huffing of farts in the story writer’s room). I won’t spoil it for any one, but I can definitely understand the 1s & 0s on metacritic.
Good luck to those of you, who will be buying it. I hope you enjoy it. I’m just glad I saved R1000. (no spoilers underneath, just the link to xQc’s stream.
For those who are interested here’s his full stream:
Remember, you don’t have to click it. You don’t have to watch it.
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/654337585
ElimGarak
June 19, 2020 at 23:01
No, it’s just that bad. Subjected myself to it and it learned absolutely nothing from the first while relying on visuals to feel like a good game. The horrendously bad characters and plot are turd sprinkles on this dated game.
Nurotic
June 19, 2020 at 23:02
Darryn Bonthuys, if people don’t like the story and say so, why do you feel that makes them babies? To write and publish something belittling the opinions of others seems arrogant. You know what actually prevents “fantastic conversations” … name calling, rather than engaging others in respectful discussion. I’m certain some of these reviews are in bad faith, but your prejudice towards these people’s opinions shows just as much bad faith.
Son of Banana Jim
June 20, 2020 at 01:02
Yeah, I have to agree with you on this point. The tone of the article basically set the tone for the comments that followed. Fantastic conversations could have been had, but that’s all gone now, because the article came out mocking gamers & fans, and THUS the vitriol that followed flowed freely. Not really sure what Darryn was thinking.
I suppose there’s a lesson to be learnt here, but will there be a certain level of maturity to accept and learn from it? Or will comments be deleted?
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Zariboy
June 19, 2020 at 23:16
Damn the guy who wrote this article needs to get his brain checked. Calling a dedicated fanbase babies because the story is absolute dogshite proves this guy is cut out to flip burgers not write articles.
Bob
June 20, 2020 at 02:01
The only people that will get butthurt over the review, bombing are people that wanna see this propaganda do well on all fronts, and that’s sad those people need to grow up.
naturallythe1
June 20, 2020 at 07:09
Of course it could be because the story sucks and the gameplay isn’t much better than the first. Or perhaps it’s the unnecessary HOURS of filler content in the game that serves no real purpose to the trash story. But nope, “OHHH, BABIES REVIEW BOMBING IT.” Doesn’t that say anything about the game? It’s not good. It’s not HORRIBLE, but it’s really not good. It in no way is a legit 10/10. 10/10 is the first game. This sequel nowhere near comes close to that game and never will. If the critics would have fairly scored this game as maybe a 7 or an 8, I’d have believed it, but it seems awfully fishy how apparently this game is perfect to them. I trust actual gamers over “critics”
Simbad
June 20, 2020 at 04:37
Imagine being paid to review the game and then call real people babies for not liking it.
Nice last of us part 2 ads all over your fucking website. Disgusting shills.
BKW
June 20, 2020 at 10:28
Oh dear..if people’s opinion differ to yours, they’re babies. Many of these reviewers having read different reviews point out elements you could only otherwise know by watching a full play through on YouTube, so it’s not all review bombing as much as that might help someone’s conscience. The game if you play it; is genuinely bad, forget the unrealistic, unnatural and immersion breaking social justice elements (those phrases pertaining to different elements, not all), forget the leaks, most of which are correct; bar 4chan. Then yes, the uncompelling, unmemorable characters, the cheap soap opera story, the dated linear gameplay and non existent puzzles are glaring issues. The visuals, sound effects and animations are great but can’t save it from the above. Add the agenda addled issues back into the mix and you have a somewhat hard to take serious game, that’s mostly devoid of what the original offered. IGN, Polygon, VG24/7 and the usual suspects have only after this game rendered themselves more a big joke, with no credibility. But there were many red flags leading up to release. They should’ve kept Amy Hennig and let her alone write the story and characters, she made one of the best games ever (Legacy of Kain series) instead they pushed her out, dopey move. How many tens of thousands cancelled or abstained from pre ordering I wonder.
Thisissomegarbage
June 20, 2020 at 07:09
Just goes to show that you need to be some kind of snowflake sperglord to be a game journalist nowadays. The game is trash, and you’re buttmad over people calling it what it is.
Get over yourself.
naturallythe1
June 20, 2020 at 07:09
Of course it could be because the story sucks and the gameplay isn’t much better than the first. Or perhaps it’s the unnecessary HOURS of filler content in the game that serves no real purpose to the trash story. But nope, “OHHH, BABIES REVIEW BOMBING IT.” Doesn’t that say anything about the game? It’s not good. It’s not HORRIBLE, but it’s really not good. It in no way is a legit 10/10. 10/10 is the first game. This sequel nowhere near comes close to that game and never will. If the critics would have fairly scored this game as maybe a 7 or an 8, I’d have believed it, but it seems awfully fishy how apparently this game is perfect to them. I trust actual gamers over “critics”
BKW
June 20, 2020 at 10:28
Oh dear..if people’s opinion differ to yours, they’re babies. Many of these reviewers having read different reviews point out elements you could only otherwise know by watching a full play through on YouTube, so it’s not all review bombing as much as that might help someone’s conscience. The game if you play it; is genuinely bad, forget the unrealistic, unnatural and immersion breaking social justice elements (those phrases pertaining to different elements, not all), forget the leaks, most of which are correct; bar 4chan. Then yes, the uncompelling, unmemorable characters, the cheap soap opera story, the dated linear gameplay and non existent puzzles are glaring issues. The visuals, sound effects and animations are great but can’t save it from the above. Add the agenda addled issues back into the mix and you have a somewhat hard to take serious game, that’s mostly devoid of what the original offered. IGN, Polygon, VG24/7 and the usual suspects have only after this game rendered themselves more a big joke, with no credibility. But there were many red flags leading up to release. They should’ve kept Amy Hennig and let her alone write the story and characters, she made one of the best games ever (Legacy of Kain series) instead they pushed her out, dopey move. How many tens of thousands cancelled or abstained from pre ordering I wonder.
Nicolas Bernard
June 20, 2020 at 13:44
At the first sign of negative reviews. Even back a few months ago when the leaks were coming out, these so called “media critics” try to hide this game’s failure behind a simple minded : hurr durr we don’t like lesbians and trans in our games.
Sadly, this isn’t the problem with The Last of Us 2. And it wasn’t even a problem in The Last of Us. The character Bill from the first game was confirmed gay, Ellie had a whole DLC revealing her to have lesbian tendencies as a kid. . . So why this outrage with *this* game?
Because it was done, and written badly. A franchise that was focused on the relationship between two characters, Joel and Ellie. Gets suddenly replaced by Dina (????) and Abby (????) characters whom we have no reason to care for. It’s pretty apparent Dina has so little significance to the story.
Ellie and Dina’s journey is so uninteresting it makes the hours subsequent to Joel’s death utterly boring. Because once again we have no reason to care for their dialogue, or their romance. They’re just lesbians.
The game also doesn’t bother to hide it’s efforts at trying to make Abby a relatable and “likeable” character. Simultaneously killing Joel in the most pathetic of ways and revealing her to be the one that advocated for Ellie to give her life in the first game. And in my opinion this is the most senseless thing this game has tried to do. For absolutely no one can begin to appreciate this character. (And I won’t even begin to talk about where Abby comes from or the origins of her character. Or even the logistics behind a trans woman in the apocalypse). So once again, she is redundantly “that trans character”, that is forcefully shoved down this, now torn appart plot.
Continuing :
Plenty, and I mean plenty of people have already talked about the complete DECIMATION of Joel’s character in this game. I doubt I need to say anything about it. From how dumb he’s become to the disrespect of the first game. It was truly sad.
What we get instead is a basic “revenge” arc that starts in the first 2 hours of the game and leaves the players with a feeling of “I don’t want to play anymore”. And what’s the point? The amazing thing about this game and the reason why fans waited so long for this second title was the relationship between Ellie and Joel. The ending of the first game captivated me for years. The drama it leaf to, the suspense of the continuity of that relationship. The growth of Ellie as a character and how Joel would face it . . . in this game we get none of it.
Finally If I had to summarize this in one word : Empty. Not only because it left me empty inside for a few hours. But because it is just that. Empty. A beautiful and well designed game with intricate levels and a worthy upgrade of the first game that is Completely Empty. After I was done watching the whole thing I couldn’t help but think : So much waster potential, and for what? . . .
I now hope my opinion reaches other former fans of this franchise.
“Massive baby” review bombing this game, out.
Mossel
June 25, 2020 at 15:04
Did you finish? Ellie had a great arc, and arguably Abby had an even better one. I also thought this was a simple revenge story initially and was a bit upset, but going through with it and finishing made me realise everything, every detail was there for a reason. Even Abby’s massive biceps.
To each his own if you didn’t like it, but everyone here sounds very very sour that the story went in a different direction than what you would have wanted. I personally loved the game. Granted the first one was better, but then again, how on earth do you top that?
Andy Gelinas
June 20, 2020 at 17:29
First game was just ok. Second one sucks. There, I said it.
Hank W Liu
June 20, 2020 at 20:46
I’m not sure how reviewers are defending the story, it’s actually garbage. The gameplay is more or less the same with TLOU1, kudos to them adding more choice around how difficult you want the experience to be. But to defend that story? I guess you gotta maintain a good relationship with naughty dog for those nice dollars.
Guz
June 21, 2020 at 12:04
I don’t have a stake in this as I have never played the first one and don’t see myself playing the second either.
That being said the amount of weight the reactions are being given are IMO a little over the top. I got a very easy policy when it comes to games, series and movies.
1. Don’t pre order/book anything, you can wait a few days avoiding spoilers then decide after some reviews. Make sure its from places YOU trust
2. If it seems like you wont enjoy it then don’t consume that media, easy as that.
3. Don’t be so invested that its the be all and end all, its only entertainment, treat it that way.
4. There WILL be something else out there for you to consume, just wait for that
Son of Banana Jim
June 22, 2020 at 02:18
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CCPmeme
June 21, 2020 at 16:05
“Having a bunch of massive babies like this running rampant though?”
Yeah, that’s what Anthem in-denial fanboys’s excuses were when they can’t face the fact that the game is trash. Look where that get Anthem to. A fucking dead game.
Son of Banana Jim
June 21, 2020 at 19:50
From pewdiepie to this guy… Last of Us 2 really did a number on streamers. I have never seen so many disappointed faces in my life.
(no spoilers) Just a classic reaction to the game
https://clips.twitch.tv/AuspiciousPlausibleMagpiePunchTrees
Ryan
June 21, 2020 at 22:00
You’re a fucking soyboy, defending this SJW trash. It’s ok, you can admit that you’re a paid shill.
RuinedXJosh
June 22, 2020 at 00:58
MINOR SPOILERS ALERT
I’m a huge fan of the original game. I bought a PS3 just to play that game, and I later upgraded to a PS4 and the remastered version. Its box art has been my desktop background for years. I just beat the sequel yesterday and I find most of the hate unwarranted and ridiculous.
Sure, I would’ve written the plot a little bit different myself, but it wasn’t a bad story. Any game that can pull at the heartstrings and make you feel strong emotions is a good game. My only complaint about the plot is how soon they killed off you know who, but you know that they were going to die eventually. I would’ve done that much later in this game or even in a third game. I also would’ve liked a multiplayer feature.
I thoroughly enjoyed the improvements to existing gameplay mechanics and the additions of a few new ones. The optional objectives and collectibles added some interesting lore and items to be found and that had me searching every corner of each area. The new infected enemies and that monstrosity of a boss were some terrifyingly great additions to the game. I also liked that they went more in-depth to the factions in this game than the previous.
As much as I hated Abby for what she did, playing from the antagonists perspective was a neat storytelling technique that attempted to humanize a deplorable character and make you realize that her and Ellie were similar. They both relentlessly sought revenge at the expense of those who crossed them and even their friends. The story also showed that although the various factions had some different ideals and perspectives, they had similar methods operating in a morally grey area.
As far as video games go, this was a great story even if I would have told it a bit differently.
Billy
June 22, 2020 at 15:14
I’m appalled at how poorly written this article is.
Not once is the reason for the bad reviews established. The author didn’t even try to understand why people are so upset.
Typical soyboy author.
Tbone187
June 23, 2020 at 16:13
Yikes, Darryn getting rinsed here…Bruuuutal!
Sibongile N
June 24, 2020 at 00:29
I haven’t played last of us 2 yet and I probably won’t but let’s all press F for Darryn. Darryn is deservedly getting a beating in the comment section.
Sibongile N
June 24, 2020 at 00:29
I haven’t played last of us 2 yet and I probably won’t but let’s all press F for Darryn. Darryn is deservedly getting a beating in the comment section.
Ancient Evidence
June 23, 2020 at 22:12
I just finished the game and absolutely love it. I don’t really care what these negative Nelly’s think about a game they have never played.
Sibongile N
June 24, 2020 at 00:36
Why isn’t there an article about the ridiclous 10 out of 10 reviews? Most read like they didn’t even finish the game.
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Wait there’s a 10 out of 10 review on criticalhit too? You break my heart guys.
Jay Jabrolsky
June 24, 2020 at 07:44
Some good ole hard hitting journalism where the gamers are the enemy as always. Darryn Bonthuys, good to know who’s side you are on. I am sure your colleagues and industry higher ups will give you a pat on the back for this one. You did it mate!
Hammersteyn
June 24, 2020 at 12:24
I had a thought last night as I got up around 3 to feed the cat and drain the snake. I thought about life, love, this game and a thousand other angst ridden things people can imagine during this pay cut, whiskey fueled, pandemic.
Back in the Attitude era John Cena became the Doctor of Thuganomics. A change that saved his career. People loved him, he was popular, he was entertaining and funny. Then things changed again. The PG era started and Cena realized he couldn’t make naughty jokes anymore because young kids started watching him. He changed into the version The Rock coined as Fruity Pebbles. He started to get ridiculed by some audiences and became probably the most divisive wrestler ever because he couldn’t please everyone.
Now we have TLOU2. The first one was a game that everyone remembers fondly. Great story, addictive gameplay, gorgeous graphics(but not by PC standards amirite?) So obviously everyone wanted a sequel and waiting 7 years is a long, long time. So 2020 arrives and everything is a mess. Then the leaks appear and people aren’t happy. The game launches to resounding 10/10s but is review bombed on launch day making it the most divisive game this year.
The biggest issue it seems is the story and that there seems to be an agenda. Whether that’s true or not doesn’t matter. The game has already broken sales records because a lot of people didn’t play the first one and even more didn’t even bother with the politics of the sequel.
Is it okay to be upset? Yes it is. I for one am. This game is a tough sell for me despite being brilliant apparently. The sequel didn’t go the way I planned at all because ND thought it best to have the story one way and it upset a lot of people. But that’s how it goes, after 7 years of waiting ND wouldn’t be able to please everyone. (I’d like to elaborate on this point but spoilers!) Just like the last three SW movies.
But don’t let it turn you into a vile human being. Don’t send death threats, don’t resort to name calling. Just calm down and have a beer and I’ll tell you why.
I never liked the new John Cena. So whenever there was a PPV I usually endured his matches and because he only wrestled once a night I got to enjoy the rest of the PPV. Same goes with gaming. Sure TLOU2 may not be your cup of tea because it decided try and be bold and up the ante. Yet there are so many games out there and new ones coming out soon like Ghost of Tsushima.
So don’t let this one game turn you into a 2020. Play something that will make you happy.
Alien Emperor Trevor
June 24, 2020 at 12:58
You’re right, TLOU was crap on PC. Put in the disk and the game doesn’t even run, all I got was a blank screen.
And you’re right about the other stuff too, I guess.
Hammersteyn
June 24, 2020 at 15:14
I might be wrong as well, in a few months it wont matter just like everything that happened here.
Mossel
June 25, 2020 at 14:44
This game is brilliant. To hell with all the naysayers. Just like some complain about 10/10 reviews, please explain to me how people can give it a 0/10? The graphics and gameplay alone would give it at least 5/10. I wll admit the first one was better, but this is definitely not the terrible game some idiots are trying to tell you about. Mossel out.
Cap285
June 28, 2020 at 14:44
Tool writes tool article.
SmokyOwl
July 3, 2020 at 01:54
I have to assume that anybody who likes this game either hated the first game, or didn’t play it.
Son of Potassium
July 7, 2020 at 15:01
But nothing is said about 10/10 industry shills?
Thomas Greaux
July 8, 2020 at 04:28
I gave it a 7 and it deserves a 7. I could see someone giving it a 6 or a 5 or an 8 or a 9 and being the user score is just under a 6 I wouldnt say its been “bombed”, Id say its just under where it rightfully should be. I loved a lot of things about the game but honestly the gameplay and gun fighting is mediocre at best compared to other games this generation and the story was just terrible. I hated it. I had to literally force myself to finish playing the game. I didn’t read or look into the game at all before I played it intentionally so I could form my own opinion and not be swayed by other people or have the game spoiled for me and I found myself agreeing with many things people were complaining about after I completed it and started searching online. All these major online gaming sites giving this game 100’s is a complete joke also yet I haven’t seen a single article written about that though. Odd how users always get shamed for “review bombing” but no one is talking about the the exact opposite from critics. How could you look us in the eye and say this game is a 100? Seriously? The game is PERFECT? Not a single thing wrong with it? Nothing that could be improved upon? A 100? Really? GTFO
Grawmps
August 12, 2020 at 00:00
Those review bombers were right though. It IS woke trash.
Sir Farty Fartsalot
December 9, 2020 at 12:46
Yet it sold astronomically.
A lot of good those pathetic review bombing MAGAts did.
Myron Dean
March 8, 2021 at 19:50
Nah, the game story is a sad piece of trash, that’s it.
Myron Dean
March 8, 2021 at 19:50
Nah, the game story is a sad piece of trash, that’s it.