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Put the Pitchforks and Torches away

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A lot of people have been posting some interestingly defensive and angry comments about Fridays article titled “Certainly, for PlayStation 3 owners, there’s absolutely nothing here that makes you feel good about owning the console.”

I understand what everyone is getting at, but it’s all because people are trying so hard to defend their choice of console, that no one realises the point that is being made.

I’m not saying the 360 is better (RROD’s and disc read issues do more than their fair share of dealing out headaches to 360 owners), Im not saying the PS3 sucks, what I am saying is that it is getting put in second place so often that you have to feel some sort of disappointment with the quality of third party games. People who read this article just want to scream “fanboy” and sound off about the 360’s faults straight away, no one seems to take the time to try and understand it. It’s not about the hardware…

It does suck to know that you could be getting the best of the best, but instead, a lot of companies are merely porting over the games and not spending any extra time to ensure a completely high quality product. GTA IV is a prime example of how it should be done, the 360 was the lead developement platform, but the PS3 version is said to not only look better, but run slightly smoother too. Why? because Rockstar actually gives a sh#t. If you want a reverse example, take a look at Burnout Paradise, 360 version was ported beautifully, thanks to Criterion’s efforts.

I’m tired of people crying “fanboy” over this article when no one takes a moment to realise that if anything, Im saying that the PS3 has the ability to be even better, especially when it comes to third party games. If visuals the likes of Metal Gear Solid 4 and Gran Turismo 5 are being produced on the PS3, then there is no excuse.

“How many times are PS3 owners going to accept second best after paying nearly double the price?” – read this line again and try and understand what I’m getting at.

How much longer are you as a paying customer of Sony going to accept that Sony isn’t doing anything about the dodgy ports.

A recent comment stated that “it doesn’t take long before you realize which one feels like it *should* be half the price of the other and that is why I would gladly pay the premium again.” – Think about that the next time you aggressively shoot down xbox live for not being offered as a free service. People need to stop being so defensive about their consoles, if you bought it and you love it, that’s more than enough.

I would appreciate it if people stopped bashing all the hard work that Lazygamer has put into this site because they didn’t understand the point of this article. I’m not biased, neither is the site, I’m looking at what’s happening out there. Just because this article looks at an issue with the PS3, doesn’t give anyone the right to try and label it a fanboy site.

When we posted an article about a 360 burning a house down, I don’ t recall anyone calling us a PS3 fanboy site.

Last Updated: April 29, 2008


  1. Welcome to trolling Tuesday?


  2. RE: Gamer

    April 29, 2008 at 13:47

    Yes, I still think the PS3 sucks.

    RE: Gamer’s last blog post..Kojima Jnr disappointed with Metal Gear Solid 4


  3. darthdad

    April 29, 2008 at 14:08

    Ah, ok. Lets see…..
    Intellivision kicks Atari’s Ass!!!!!


  4. Vamp

    April 29, 2008 at 14:11

    LOL! It’s a sad day when u have to apologise for something
    as silly as THAT. I’m a Pc exclusive gamer and i couldn’t care less if somebody slammed me for that. So what?! And maybe it’s because of that fact that i could sit back and enjoy the article and AGREE with u.
    Come on people. You enjoy ur console…let others enjoy theirs.

    Luv the site.


  5. StNick

    April 29, 2008 at 14:30

    Firstly Nick, thanks for this response to the comments in the aforementioned article. It is appreciated. Secondly, since my particular comment is referenced, I feel the need to defend myself.

    The irony here is that I am a huge Xbox fan. I think it is a fantastic device, and though perhaps you weren’t addressing me personally, I have never once uttered a bad word about the Xbox Live service and its fee structure. It was always my intention to buy an Xbox, and when the infamous PS3 Standard Bank special came along, I planned to sell the PS3 and get a 360. However, after unpacking my Playstation, I was immediately sold and have never looked back. In my mind, there can be no question as to which console *I* prefer, regardless of what you, Eurogamer, or anyone else says. I have enough experience with BOTH consoles to form my own opinion, and I certainly don’t regret the route I took.

    I therefore took offense to your choice of words in your article. Please note, it had nothing to do with article that you were referring to at Eurogamer. Few people can argue that the Xbox is the king of the crossplatform games; *I* certainly wouldn’t.

    I quote *you* though, “The PS3 is constantly being spoken of as the Cell powerhouse, able to run full glorious 1080p at a quadrillion frames a second, whilst simultaneously washing the dishes and making dinner for the kids.” Your sarcasm blatantly reveals your bias. You then proceeded to flippantly dismiss the other features of the PS3 as though they were worthless (such as Bluray, something which I use extensively), and then top it off with a grand “Sucks to be you.”

    I admit, I came out guns blazing in my comments. But I was angry. You are entitled to your own opinion, but when you are representing lazygamer.co.za, I think that it is important that you remain impartial. There are staunch supporters of both consoles here, and if you want to keep it that way, I recommend you refrain from using lazygamer as a forum to air your personal favouritism of the Xbox.


  6. SlippyMadFrog

    April 29, 2008 at 14:50

    C’mon Vamp, I know you’re a PC fanboy. Deep down inside your irrational hate for the consoles is slowly burning you up. Admit it!


  7. doobiwan

    April 29, 2008 at 15:31

    To the contrary there Nick I’m afraid you’ve misinterpreted what was written. “The PS3 … kids.” Is not an attack on the device, it’s an attack on the rubbish Corporate Sony has spewed since the PS3 was announced. It’s having a go at Sony’s constant over promise and under delivery.


  8. LazySAGamer

    April 29, 2008 at 15:33

    To defend Nick here, I did tell him to use the Eurogamer article as a flamebait article for Friday. He initially tempered it down and I did say he must ramp it up…

    In general the rule when posting is to be as impartial as possible while still portraying your personal opinion. Without the personal opinion it’s just news. However with Flamebait articles the idea is to push the boundries of personal opinion and back them with fact in a biased way.


  9. red

    April 29, 2008 at 15:40

    I’m not feeling that I get second best at all. Infact, I’m one of those who sold of a xbox to get a PS3. And IMHO, the PS3 is a much much beter gaming/multi media device than the 360 could ever be. I see these comparison videos (like the latest GTA one) and I scratch my head in confusion as to why some would waste time on such a video. They look the same. Let’s take other games, AC, DMC4. For all practical purposes, both versions look the same. Sure if you take a still picture and take out your glasses, stare at the still images for a couple of minutes you’ll see some differences and yeah, we know these differences are usually in favour of the xbox. The interestz have made quite sure that we know about it. But it’s so bloody insignificant that no one really cares.

    So Lazy, 99% of PS owner won’t understand what you’re “getting at”. They play games on the damn thing and they are loving it.

    “Certainly, for PlayStation 3 owners, there’s absolutely nothing here that makes you feel good about owning the console.”

    That statement will just confuse me to hell and back, and it’ll confuse 99% of PS owners. With each day that goes by and with each new game release, the better and better I feel about my console because I get better and better games.


  10. red

    April 29, 2008 at 15:43

    Sorry Lazy, realized you weren’t the one who wrote it.


  11. doobiwan

    April 29, 2008 at 15:49

    Well, he didn’t say it’d make you feel bad, just that you wouldn’t necessarily feel good from it 😛 😉


  12. red

    April 29, 2008 at 15:58

    Hmmm, I feel perfectly good about it? And as for the Sony bashing, yeah bash ahead. Perhaps they did thicken the hype train to much. So for how long will this “bashing” go on? Because I tell you, the lot writing this fanboy rubbish ain’t that different from the sony corportes.


  13. RivaZA

    April 29, 2008 at 16:10

    Maybe for multimedia the PS3 is better, but for just gaming and online gaming the 360 is hands down better. PSn is nowhere new the level that Live is and I gladly pay the nominal fee every month for it.

    Look at least Developers throw Sony a bone every now and then ,like Rockstar did with GTA4. It should keep PS3 owners from offing themselves for awhile.


  14. JimBob

    April 29, 2008 at 16:22

    Some of the comments you guys got in response to that piece were abusive…and yet, if you’re going to troll to get N4G traffic, you should be surprised by what you get 🙂


  15. LazySAGamer

    April 29, 2008 at 16:54

    It’s about creating debate not trolling…

    A lot of people will just hurl insults and to me that’s fine, however I am more interested in an honest debate on the matter and all we need is a spark and away we go


  16. Undertakerza

    April 29, 2008 at 17:00

    Doobiwan and Nick

    I would advise Nick to go on a journalism course as he is so High -I dont know what you smoke but it must be good.Please let us know what it is :mrgreen: .Doobiwan you are the biggest 360 Troll I have ever came accross, your sarcastic remarks is childish and your maturity shine through. Lazygamer you should change your site to 360lazygamer.co.za since your trolls dont make sense and you cant accept your console is starting to get tough competition now that devs are starting to understand to develope for the ps3.At the end of the day enjoy your console you chose and stop bashing other peoples choices.Nick to put a remark on a site “It suck to be you” it just show your backyard journalism skills and I must congratulate you on your professionalism -do us a favour and get out off reviewing games and rather consider being a RASTAFARIAN (I am High and have RROD 360 YA MAN!)


  17. doobiwan

    April 29, 2008 at 17:14


    That’s so priceless. I’m going to print and frame your post for posterity! It rates as the most dim witted, badly written retort I’ve heard in years!

    If you don’t understand the question, don’t try to answer it.


  18. red

    April 29, 2008 at 18:04

    What fucking question?!?!?!

    Am I worried about the god almighty 360? Fuck no. My awsner to your imbecile question is NO NO NO, GET IT YET? NO00000!!111!



  19. Fox1

    April 29, 2008 at 18:12

    Nick wrote that article from a consumers point of view. R1999 or R5599? Both consoles are great, yes. But for value for money, which will would be better ❓


  20. Fox1

    April 29, 2008 at 18:15

    That’s why it’s called Flamebait Friday :mrgreen:


  21. Abe

    April 29, 2008 at 18:23

    I think Stnick’s comment summed it all up perfectly.
    Jimbob also has a valid point, if you are gonna create a flame war dont cry when you get burnt.
    But I have a feeling its because slowly the tide is turning in favour of the PS3. I remember being the only die hard SA “ps3fanboy” for a very long time now suddenly “we” are in the majority!


  22. evilredzombie

    April 29, 2008 at 18:27

    @ nick.
    1st , do you own a PS33 and can you realy give a fair opinion? Not that of others your own fair opinion on owning a PS3
    2nd , I owned a 360 and a Wii and from what I have experience the PS3 is far superior.
    3rd , @lazy I must admit that you do seem to prefer the 360 over the PS3. However over the last few months you have become more open to Wii and slightly to PS3. I do love this site and recognise the effort and work going into this. I also recognise that you are doing a great deal for SA gaming, had I more time I would do same and assist more. So thank you…
    4th , I don’t really care about that article that why I never commented on it…. I do however not enjoy the articles from 2 of the “staff” at lazy gamer. I know that they do this for free and contribute to the site and gaming in general. I’m sure allot of people don’t like my odd review every now and then so I just don’t let their articles bother me… Over all lazy gets pretty good score as far as sites go.

    5th those who complain…why not try your hand at writing an article or review and send it to Lazy? It’s not so easy…. If you think you can do something better why not try?

    One thing id likes to see is a shift from blog style to site style…

    evilredzombie’s last blog post..Review – Dark Sector PS3


  23. Undertakerza

    April 29, 2008 at 18:48

    Listen here dipshait;enough is enough go back and crawl into your hole with your 360 under your arm,shut your trap and do us all a favor.Your comments get quite borring -sorry to break it to you


  24. LazySAGamer

    April 29, 2008 at 19:11

    Would you mind sending me which two “staff” you have an issues with.. I am always open to hearing comments…

    We are looking at moving more towards an editorial style but not entirely over… It’s a complex balancing act


  25. red

    April 29, 2008 at 19:18

    Where the hell did you get that shit comparison from? Lol the 5599 PS3 gives your 2 free games plus a extra remote plus built in wireless. WTF does the 1999 xbox give you? A core console, no games no extra controller no HDD not built is wireless. I’m sorry to say, from a “consumer” point of view the PS3 wins and your comparison fails…epicly…


  26. scotty777

    April 29, 2008 at 19:20

    I’VE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR OVER A YEAR NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! my word! finally, someone has put a stop to this bs that is fanboism, honestly, enough is enough. I’ve always been an avid sony supporter, and I love my ps3 to bits so instead of sitting in front of a bloody computer and get hard core with a key board i sit on my couch and play games, the way it’s really meant to be.

    honestly, I couldn’t give a rats smelly ass if my ps3 game isn’t as good as the xbox as i’m still being able to play the game and the game is better quality then my pc.
    sure i paid twice the amount for my ps3, but you can’t put a price on loyalty.

    so, I rate we put this fanboy bs to a stop now! It doesn’t make the games smoother or better the more you defend your console.

    later lazy, I’ll always be loyal to you as well 😀


  27. Nick

    April 29, 2008 at 19:23

    You know…

    I have owned 3 sony consoles, and only 1 Microsoft console, not to mention I have a Sony television as well. I point out one issue on the PS3 and people can’t handle it. I made it very clear that I’m not bashing the hardware. But that just seems to fly straight over peoples heads.

    I found out something very interesting about how 360 failure rates are badly affecting a local Look and Listen store and I want to write an article about it. But If I get the same response from the 360 owners as I did with the PS3 owners with this article, I may as well not bother. Not to mention how many people are going to tell me that I did it to make up for Friday’s article.

    If the comments are going to be so defensive, I will just write boring articles about how everything in the industry is fine and dandy and that everyone is happy so that everyone can live in a world of bliss and ignorance.

    The article was written to encourage discussion, not bashing, people need to lighten up and state their points, not attack anyone who gets in their way.


  28. doobiwan

    April 29, 2008 at 19:30

    Sorry bud, but I’ve already watched around half a dozen GTA fans switch consoles for Fox’s exact reasoning. They’re not interested in the extra’s, they want to play GTA and considering the games already R700, the decision to rather get the 360 pro for R2800 was a no brainer.

    Please don’t take that as a flame, it’s not, it’s just economics, Those features are unnecessary to play GTA and R5k+ either way for those folks is just unaffordable.


  29. doobiwan

    April 29, 2008 at 19:32

    I totally agree Abe!

    Majority of the Trolls are PS3 fanboys. 😉


  30. doobiwan

    April 29, 2008 at 19:38

    By all means post it Nick, I’ve got a better idea, why not have a flaming tirade at the Xbox, it’s got enough issues, between reliability, Live support (and the D-pad 😉 ), go off.

    As opposed to 1000 raving 360 fanboys I wager you get a couple posts of agreement just before a 30 post derail by PS3 fanboys going “360 sux!”


  31. red

    April 29, 2008 at 19:42

    Doobiwan, doesn’t really matter, the comparison is still fail. You can’t compare a a stipped down xbox with a full featured PS. Ok get that? And erm, Last time I checked the PS is doing quite well with catching up with the xbox. You mention the spending of R700 per game? People aren’t that spoofed of to spend one or two grand more for a console that’ll last them 7-10years. Oh and I’m sorry “bud” but last time I checked out people I know, half a dozen of them were pawning there xboxes to get a ps3.


  32. evilredzombie

    April 29, 2008 at 19:43

    Well then nick, I put forward that you reassess your writing approach. 💡 However writing does not mean you have to satisfy all parties…
    You say you have owned 3 Sony consoles… have you owned a PS3?

    evilredzombie’s last blog post..Review – Dark Sector PS3


  33. doobiwan

    April 29, 2008 at 19:56

    Then you’re special.

    Of course it makes a difference. Can they play GTA4 for R2700? Yes, only on the 360. To play it on the PS3 will cost them around R6k, if they want the full experience you’re looking at almost R7k with DS3’s and HD cables.

    Sorry bud, but maybe your Mom’s paying your bills, but to us ‘ordinary folks’ R5200, can be spent on a lot better than some superfluous features on an overpriced toy.

    You can soak up as much marketing hype you like, and you are fully entitled to sleep with your PS3 if you love it that much, but the fact is that South Africans are voting with their wallets.


  34. Nick

    April 29, 2008 at 19:58

    No, I don’t own a PS3 (yet) and that doesn’t automatically make me a 360 fanboy. When I write about 360 issues, no one has a problem. I love gaming in every way. I play handhelds, PC, Consoles, the works.

    People are trying to target me directly, even though the fact that the Eurogamer features have shown that the 360 came out on top nearly every time. My article is based on Eurogamers findings. Not my own.

    Granted, it’s a Friday article, so I looked at the issue more harshly than I would do usually, in order for people to discuss and give their feedback, not target the author. The article was not supposed to be published in Time Magazine, it was written casually for the reason that it’s not supposed to be taken so seriously. The only thing I get though is people telling me that I must go and study journalism. Pinch of salt guys.

    The issues are there, just like the RROD’s. The comparisons are real and legitimate (unless anyone has any conspiracy theories about Eurogamers findings). It dissapoints me that so many people who commented tried to just attack me in the hope that it makes it all go away.


  35. sabagamma

    April 29, 2008 at 20:49

    Some of the comments on this story are priceless (and senseless)!

    I find the PS3 guys always have to justify their purchase to the world – its got blueray, its got wifi, its got dolby – yippee – but can it play games? Umm ja, it’s not too bad at that either – which it isn’t.

    The PS3 has brand power, I remember the e-mails floating around a year or two before it was released boasting about the power of the cell processor. From the Sony marketing hype there was only one player in the console market – the rest of the world was not even in the same league. Then there was the arrogance of Sony, saying things like they could put anything they wanted in the PS3 and people would buy it. Well they did and the reality is people bought a Wii and sometimes an XBox / PS3. Then there is of course the 30% rumour, it goes along the lines of, “they are only using 30% of the power of the PS3”. Really? Who measured that? The Sony execs? Again all hype, all just used to sell a fairly average console. Bottom line, Sony put more effort into winning the HD wars than creating a spectacular console.

    Now don’t get me wrong, the PS3 is not a bad buy at all – it’s just not a great buy and that is what the PS brand is all about.

    BTW I am no XBox bigot, MS has done what they do best, they have released cheap crap that does the job. They have achieved the almost impossible by replicating their talent for poor quality software into poor quality hardware. Their propriatory attitude towards everything in their stable (hardware, software, crapware) has now resulted in Logitech reverse engineering the hardware signal to make compatible steering wheels. And why does it cost R 350 to buy a VGA cable for an XBox – the damn thing only costs about R 35 to make!

    @Lazy – you guys are biased towards the XBox IMHO. There are not enough critical articles about the XBox and its accesories on this site. But maybe lay off the PS3 guys for a while, after spending between R 4500 – R 7000 on a disappointing console they hardly need to be reminded about that fact by you guys. 🙂

    Now go forth and play.


  36. evilredzombie

    April 29, 2008 at 20:54

    Well then Mr nick… then there is no pleasing you…
    How can you write about something you don’t know? You don’t own a PS3 so you don’t know…you went on speculation or hearsay…bad! Especially for a journalist. When you want to reference something you need to know it’s a fact.
    Those comparisons are not real, well not until you have tested them…FOR YOUR SELF.
    I am not attacking you, however I am questioning your judgment as you have no idea on the matter other than that you have read…you keep stating these things as facts, they are not. They are opinions from other people off other websites that you have not tested and not proven

    evilredzombie’s last blog post..Review – Dark Sector PS3


  37. doobiwan

    April 29, 2008 at 21:08

    Right in that case ERZ I’ll never convey anything I’ve read or heard in the news, on TV or on the radio.

    By that logic there is no Crysis in Zimbabwe simply because I have never been shot or beaten while in Harare (As much as that must disappoint many 😉 ). The fact that I’ve never been to Harare also means I’m a Zanu PF support.

    Even if I had been, you are not allowed to believe me because you never went yourself.


  38. Abe

    April 29, 2008 at 21:10

    Nick when you report on RROD and other issues regarding the xbox such as DRE’s, you are reporting on FACT! I put it in capitals to shows its emphisis 😉
    When you “report” on the PS3’s short comings in the manner in which you did, using information based on opinion and showing large bias, that is another matter entirely and I am not surprised you have stirred up such a shit fest!


  39. Darthdad

    April 29, 2008 at 21:49

    @ sabagamma, “Umm ja, it’s not too bad at that either – which it isn’t.”That is your opinion.
    I am fortunate enough to have both consoles, and in my opinion they are both excellent ‘GAMING’ machines. The one console however does have a few added features. I won’t say which one, you can make up your own mind on that, depending on your bias. 😉


  40. red

    April 29, 2008 at 21:52

    Haha, my mom paying my bills? So sorry you don’t earn enough to pay R5000. Maybe you should get a new job, perhaps a new degree? Eh but wait, you’ve propbably already spend R10k+ on your hobby you call gaming, so I don’t really know what you’re complaining about paying R2k more for a console.

    You just gotta love the fact that if I mention the R5.5k console includes extras plus games it’s imediately dismissed by ‘ol doobi as not importand. But then a post later he mentions that people have to buy extra’s for the “full experience”. Do you truly believe there to be a sudden rise in GTA zealots? “Uh, I only want a quik fix GTA” My god man do you really think consumers are that dumb? Do you really think they’ll buy either console of one fucking game? Damn, I Lol’ed.


  41. morris

    April 29, 2008 at 22:10

    I must say that I am suprised by the responses to this whole mess. 6 months ago the sony fanboys’ response could be expected (defensive and angry), but it is now very clear that crappy ports are soley the fault of the developer and not the console (Burnout, DMC4, etc. and such have proved this), and no-one is forcing you to buy a crap product. The ps3 is expensive, but worth it if you want what it has to offer. There is no denying that if you want to buy a current-gen only console to play gta4 sony cannot compete price-wise, but (IMO) is is very short sighted to invest over 2K just for 1 game, rather than decide which console suits you better in the long run.

    As for people calling lazy and assosiates fanboys for fridays article, I suggest the less derogetory fanperson, reserved for those who favour a specific console yet can refrain from the type of comments normally spouted by unwashed 12 year olds and doobiwan. (Sorry doobiwan, cheap shot, I retract that statement but my backspace key is broken).

    Anyway, I have lost track of what I was going on about (a little drunk), so to summarize:
    PS3 – great hardware and console, but slighty overhyped
    XBOX360 – terrible hardware (reliability wise), but certanly stuck one to sony, and a great console.
    GAMING – responsible for biggest entertainment release of the year, we are all winners here
    Lazygamer.com- great site, should not have to apologise about fridays article, occasionally guilty of fanpersonism.


  42. doobiwan

    April 29, 2008 at 22:35

    Fair comment, mostly 😕

    Oi, How do I get singled out? That’s it, you’re not cracking an invite to the beach bar.


  43. morris

    April 29, 2008 at 22:49

    sorry doobiwan, as i said, very cheap shot. No point in aggravating an actual fanboy. There is just no reasoning with them. If only they could implement cross platform multiplayer, then we could could fight for real. I only own a ps3, but if I say XBOX is the greatest could I perhaps pop into the beach bar? I will behave.


  44. ManesanZA

    April 29, 2008 at 23:43

    The PS3’graphics are almost the same as the XBOX,fact.
    The PS3 has no in-game XMB, fact.
    The Xbox has shitty hardware,fact.
    The wii has shitty graphics, fact.
    Do I need to own all consoles to state my opinions on this? Please, this is a blog and the commentators opinions are exactly that, their opinions.
    You try to come across as some sort of authority on the subject because you previously owned an XBOX and now consider the PS3 “superior”. Should the bloggers never state their opinions unless they have dissected the inner-workings of every console, from the 2600 to the PS3.

    On a lighter note, the essence of the original article was to state that the gaming experience on the PS3 could be had on another console at the fraction of the cost. The in your face approach in which the article was written was purely for the “Flamebait-Friday”, only the hardcore fanbois took it too seriously.


  45. RivaZA

    April 29, 2008 at 23:55

    Write what you want to write. Don’t compromise yourself to suit other people. Say it like it is. The PS3 costs substantially more yet delivers a sub par experience with regards to multi platform game and online features.
    PS3 fanboys need to get a tissue and dry their eyes.


  46. LazySAGamer

    April 30, 2008 at 06:10

    Hi Morris,

    Thanks for the honest posting… I am glad the articles are hitting their intended target as well and not just getting lost in the more fanatical side of gaming.

    one thing though, this aint Lazygamer.com… that’s some cyber squatter 🙁

    We also didn’t apologise about the article and I still stand by approving it. Nick just wanted to try and get through to certain people that it wasn’t a dig at the hardware and more at the developers. But I see it has once again been missed


  47. Fox1

    April 30, 2008 at 07:59

    Then what you trying to say is that now when some one picks on the 360’s RROD and DRE’s then they have to state whether their console has the Falcon hardware architecture console or not?

    I own the 360 Elite and there is no 360 RROD issues and no DRE’s and NO Freezing ❗

    Does that make RROD invalid in the argument?

    I don’t think so ❗


  48. Fox1

    April 30, 2008 at 08:06

    Why do people have to get personal when some one comments? It’s like questioning whether you have a PhD to put a comment here 👿

    By the way, I look forward to Doobi’s and Abe’s comments. It’s always great for a laugh or really brain stimulating :mrgreen:


  49. morris

    April 30, 2008 at 08:13

    Sorry Lazy, my mistake.

    Most of what I wrote was a little tounge in cheek, but what I was getting at in the beggining is this: by this time owners of both consoles should surely realize that neither console can be definitivly classed as inferior and the defensiveness of fanboys seems very misplaced. Both consoles have sold enough to ensure that developers have to consider them properly from a business point of view, and releasing bad ports (either way) harms the developer more than anyone. It also makes the console war between sony and MS (the fight for 2nd) almost completely meaningless to the gamer. We do not get anything when either company makes a little more profit.

    This is a great site (the .co.za one), the comments are entertaining and my final question is: how are you going to top this come friday (please do)?


  50. Jinja

    April 30, 2008 at 08:13

    Um, my vote is we delete this post as well as the “PS3 is poo” post.

    They are causing a lot of unnecessary fights.

    Jinja’s last blog post..How Not To Pick Up Women


  51. evilredzombie

    April 30, 2008 at 08:42

    Wrote a paragraph on the dislikes and then sat back and read it… its PS3 fan-boy-ism..and not fair….SO as the Beatles sang “let it be, let be, let it be..”.My dislike for two writers will stay anonymous and I will not bash any one as I think that even thou they write stuff I do not like they are doing effort fro SA gaming..

    evilredzombie’s last blog post..Review – Dark Sector PS3


  52. Vamp

    April 30, 2008 at 08:42

    Ja Slippy, I guess ur right. Bugger them all 😈

    Actually, that’d make me an all-round fanboy as
    I love my Pc gaming, I own a PsP (for those lonely load-shedding days) and if I HAD to choose a nex-gen console
    it’d probably be a 360. 😉


  53. doobiwan

    April 30, 2008 at 10:36

    Dude you can say whatever you like. Just bring cake.


  54. Jman

    April 30, 2008 at 10:43

    To all 360 fanboys look at this disgrace…….worry about ur console and stop wondering why you pay a premuim for a reliable console -we cannot say that from the 360 though -no wonder MS is cutting prices as the 360 just got ISSUES and that is a FACT.If you cant afford a PS3 stop complaining and pray that your console wont break -problem solved



  55. Abe

    April 30, 2008 at 11:44

    So Fox are my comments those which are of a brain stimulating nature while Doobi’s are those which are good for a laugh?


  56. Fox1

    April 30, 2008 at 12:35

    Both of you guys make brain stimulating comments and both of you do make me laugh sometimes :mrgreen: 😉


  57. Syph1n

    April 30, 2008 at 13:16

    As long as there is more than one choice there will always be a “insert brand name/product here” war. amd vs intel.
    nvidia vs ati. bla bla. this is an industry norm. while i own an xbox 360 (and love it). i borrowed a friends ps3 and rented all the exclusive and didnt enjoy it a fraction of the xbox exclusives (but i am a gsw). so i say let the flame war continue. they are always funny to read. yes the ps3 is overpriced (but its the cheapest blueray player available) yes the xbox 360 is cheaper (with a higher fail rate but a much better warrantee, in sa anyway). this is really a case of to each his own. But really guys. Stop the personal attacks, thats just not cool!!! nick (i think its him) poked a stick at your console, poke back by all means. but to tell him to get a new job or another degree and he doesnt earn enough, who the hell do you think you are???!!


  58. Gman

    April 30, 2008 at 19:46

    Syph1n and all you 360 fans -Nick brought it on himsef with comments that dont carry any weight.If you are pissed about people paying for a ps3 and you cannot afford a ps3 stop posting shit.I have no simpathy for Nick as he stirred the wrong pot.End of story.


  59. Syph1n

    May 1, 2008 at 10:55

    yes i am a 360 fanboy. you are a ps3 fanboy. who gives a shit. he never said he cant afford it, he just stated he didnt feel it was worth the cash. one thing he said i do disagree that he said was discounting the ps3 as a blueray player. In sa we are actually starting to see blu rays dvd’s at descent prices. but im not gonna argue with anyone, i just felt the personal attacks were not necessary. attack his points, not the guy.


  60. Chris

    May 1, 2008 at 12:20

    My sack people.

    For one, Nick was designated to write the flamebait friday article and try to burn the ps3. And his comical interpretation shouldnt be taken so seriously, if you had to compare his article to what others have wrote (being biasd etc.) then his is childs play. In fact, especially comparing to bunch of kak YOU guys write on the forum, believing it’s gna make some mark on internet history if you tell someone he’s a noob and expect an audience to laugh in the bg. Goes for both sides here.

    And like Nick said, he’s been burning both sides (360 fire etc. rrod) , and he is just neutrally sitting in the middle trying to tell everyone whats their best bet when they decide to buy their console. And his personal opinion is just as fair as anyone elses, and no one is forcing that ideal on to you because it is an opinion related argument anyway.

    So, kick back and enjoy whatever console you have, you spent the money, you’re happy. anything else?

    and btw, I have a 360, and if ps3 catches up and overtakes, then il buy a ps3 without a thought.


  61. RivaZA

    May 1, 2008 at 13:15

    Wow PS3 fanboys are touchy. So much so that you would think that their console is not living up to the hype and they have to defend it to justify their purchase to make themselves feel better. LOL.


  62. SlippyMadFrog

    May 1, 2008 at 14:34

    After reading through the above comments, I can clearly say that PS3 fans are a bunch of immature cry babies. Not all of them but those insulting nick and doing the swearing. I get a feeling that everything that is written on this site must take the fragile PS3 fanboy feelings into account otherwise we sit with a mess like this. If you are not pro PS3, you are automatically an Xbox360 fanboy. If this site has ONE anti-PS3 article, then this site is run by a bunch of Xbox360 fanboys. If something anti-Xbox360 is posted, what then? Nothing.
    At the end of the day, the ports looked worse on the PS3 -> FACT, no matter what reason and Nick had a right to interpret it as bad PS3 news. If you PS3 fans can’t handle it, then maybe you need to take a time-out and think about what you want out of gaming because it clearly isn’t fun. 🙄


  63. SlippyMadFrog

    May 1, 2008 at 14:39

    I agree. This article wasn’t needed. If the PS3 fans can’t handle it, then maybe they need to grow up and realize a piece of hardware isn’t worth fighting over.


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