I stumbled across an article this morning implying that the PS3 was fast on it’s way to coming stone last in this generation and it was mentioned that their saving light would be to position the PS3 as a Blu-Ray player that can play games and not the other way around.
They could then heavily market it towards the electronics consumer market and possibly claw it’s way back into the console wars.
You can read all about it along with some entertaining comments over at Blend Games.
However it has to be asked if we really want a gaming console to be kept alive just because it can play Blu-Ray’s? Isn’t that a recipe for crappy game ports and lack lustre exclusives?
At this moment in time Sony is doing everything it can to show us that the PS3 is the best gaming experience on the market, it is flush with exciting exclusives and the third party developers have been coaxed into actually putting some effort into the ports.
The problem is that the PS3 is losing right now and as we look up and race into the Christmas season it is becoming increasingly more difficult to see why anyone should rather lay out all that cash on a PS3 instead of getting an equally capable gaming machine in the 360 for half price.
At the moment the Blu-ray ability is a novelty and there are some doubters out there, like me, who aren’t even sure that Blu-Ray will ever make it to the mainstream. However if it does then I will more than happily pick up a stand alone Blu-Ray player for half the price of the 360 at that time…
Right now the PS3 is looking very defenceless and you start to feel that Sony really need to do something special to save it from an embarrassing last place this time around.
Oh and that something special is a price cut if anyone from Sony were wondering.
Last Updated: October 15, 2008
NoMore
October 15, 2008 at 08:40
There you go again on your let’s bash the PS3 campaign. Why is this news worthy? What is the difference if one console sells more that another. Both 360 and PS3 are fighting for second place at the moment and WII is the clear winner. So MS had to cut it’s prices to gain market share but it’s still a distant second place. The only news worthy thing in your article is when you described yourself as a “doubter”. Go doubt somewhere else!!!
0rk0
October 15, 2008 at 08:40
You sir are an idiot. Instead of reviewing games as your name implies (lazyGAMER) you’ve obviously made it your mission to attack the PS3 console when ever possible and defend any bad comment directed at your console of prev. or its games. (example Gears of War 2) I’ve been monitoring your comments this whole week and tried to give you the benefit of the doubt but your were weighted and found wanting. You are entitled to your opinion , but to force it down on the readers every time we read one of your articles is getting a bit much. Perhaps that’s why the comments on your site have died out, because everybody is tired of your Fanboyism and just want to play games for the fun of it.
We, the gamer will decide which console we prefer, you stick to your game reviews.
Go read your article again yesterday titled
“Game Exec forgets which company he works for”.
It has no point. You go off about how Sony should drop their price but in the same sentence you say that a PS3 is value for money???? For what you get, the price is perfect.
Gaming is about fun and on which console we choose to play it, is our choice. We might actually like the fact that a PS3 can play blu-ray, free PSN store and that you can use it as a media centre that actually have enough space to put all our photo’s and video’s on it. Why should I settle for less.
You get what you pay for.
But feel free to continue this trend and see your reader base diminish….
kool
October 15, 2008 at 08:51
Price cut, when?
PillsburyDeeBoy
October 15, 2008 at 09:04
…this is his site…surely if anyone is to go elsewhere… it wouldn’t be Lazy.
PillsburyDeeBoy
October 15, 2008 at 09:11
The comments in these articles are what I find really interesting. The thing is NoMore or OrkO…the man has a right to his opinion. Furthermore, if it grates you that much… why come back?
I do think, having read Lazygamer for a while now – and occasionally contributing – there may be a legitimate feeling amongst PS3 owners that this site is 360 slanted. Maybe legitimate… not certainly. However, having said that, watching the gaming industry as a neutral who has the good fortune of owning all 3 consoles… Sony has had the bulk of the bad news. Fact. That’s what happens when you go from being king of the world to where the Playstation is now – competing to be allowed into the palace at all. So if indeed the bad news is weighted against Sony and lazygamer reports impartially, the bulk of the bad news on lazygamer will be Sony’s. It’s just logical.
To insult the editor just because you disagree isn’t particularly grown up. I don’t understand pledging allegiances to any console. It just doesn’t appear…logical to me… and this is directed at all those who will “die” for the console of their choice. You don’t play the console… you play the game.
Goose ZA
October 15, 2008 at 09:24
Well, it’s his site so he can doubt here if he wants. Nobody is forcing you to read it.
That said, I have to agree with the post below that this whole console war thing is getting really old and I for one couldn’t care less. I own a 360 so I don’t feel any obligation to defend the PS3 but I think most of us are more interested in stories about current and upcoming games, competitions, developer news etc (regardless of the platform). Stories like this are a bit… meh…
V@mp
October 15, 2008 at 09:28
Wow, banning Lazy from his own site. Excuse me while
I have a quiet chuckle.
I don’t see anyone “bashing” the Ps3 here.
Just an opinion and an open question as to whether or
not it would be a good thing.
Go have a Coke and smile. Poephol!
Mac
October 15, 2008 at 09:29
Bulk of bad news?? are you talking about losing some exclusive, I would say the RROD is a lot more bulky than anything PS3 has had.
Also what people dont realise is that Xbox’s price cut maybe somewhat premature.. what happens next year when they can no longer cut their price (because their margin is already too small). the obvious answer is that PS3 will cut prices at some stage whereas xbox 360 will no longer be able to cut their price. If PS3 continues to deliver the great games it is and add a price cut to the mix possibly a slim version what do you think will happen… the 360 will be left with nothing to fight back
LazySAGamer
October 15, 2008 at 09:30
We try and cater for all the people really…
Some people like these stories while others like the rumour one before this..
We also do ‘real’ feature articles when we can and I never review games… well hardly ever but we as a site do.
SlippyMadFrog
October 15, 2008 at 09:32
“It has no point. You go off about how Sony should drop their price but in the same sentence you say that a PS3 is value for money???? For what you get, the price is perfect.”
Go tell that to the millions of people waiting for a price cut. The PS3 may be value for money but a lot of people still can’t afford it. A price cut will do wonders but somehow you don’t agree? Even Kaz Hirai (spelling?) doesn’t agree with you.
easy
October 15, 2008 at 09:33
i totally agree with the sentiments posted above, and am sick and tired of fanboys (from both camps). the last 15 years i’ve read dribble between the mac and ms fanboys, its a moot point and always will be, as is the same with ps3/360 nuts.
i appreciate your need to express what you consider right or wrong or just your opinion, but you do take it too far and don’t realise that your readership is not made up entirely of 360 owners.
but it has crossed my mind that you do it for the sake of a good flame, if so, thats somewhat pointless.
anyway, i still enjoy your site albiet with the ‘slight’ bias
V@mp
October 15, 2008 at 09:38
No-one here is forcing anything
down anyone’s throats. If you don’t like the site, feel free
to leave. There has been a steady trend these last couple of
weeks of people like yourself doing some stirring on this
site and it’s starting to piss me off.
And I don’t see how the comments have died out, all the
regulars are still here and we still have a bit of flame
wars from both sides. All in the name of good fun and the
love of gaming. Go see a doctor, because I think that
stick up your ass is cutting off the blood supply to your
brain. Chill out!
JimBob
October 15, 2008 at 09:39
I agree with the posts above – this fanboy flamewar stuff is getting old and really amounts to trying to appeal to the lowest common denominator.
It might be good for hits from N4G in the short term, but in the long term it isn’t helpful for gamers or gaming. And I’d say that if you were constantly lashing the Wii or the 360, too.
I’m sure you can find controversial/interesting things to write about without falling back on all the old canards (RROD0, PS3 price, etc).
Anyway, that’s just my opinion and why I don’t visit here so often.
V@mp
October 15, 2008 at 09:39
AMEN MY BROTHER!
LazySAGamer
October 15, 2008 at 09:39
Hi 0rk0,
The reviews can be found here http://www.lazygamer.co.za/category/review/lazygamer-review
but I fail to see how the name of the site implies that you will find only reviews here?
I don’t actually normally review games as I feel it takes the fun out of it and I play games and write about games because I enjoy them.
I agree that the PS3 may be value for money but that doesn’t mean it’s the right price.
Though I do hope you stick around and let me know when you think I am being overly anti-PS3, we value your feedback.
There are some good PS3 stories coming through today but there is also another negative one later you may wish to gloss over.
janrik
October 15, 2008 at 10:02
I have both consoles.
I play games on my 360 and Movies on my PS3 (and the odd exclusive non JRPG game).
I’m not biased at all. THe 360 is my socail and gaming gateway, the PS3 my HD home theater gateway.
Why fight about it?
Is the PS3 at this moment in time a beter gaming console than the 360?
I, as consumer and owner of both, think not.
Is it a amazing piece of kit with some stunning abilities? Yes it is.
360 has the occational hardware hickup, but heck it takes less than a day to swap it out for a new one, at no cost. So why moan about that then?
I like both consoles equally.
I just do not treat them as gaming equals or media equals at the moment…
janrik
October 15, 2008 at 10:05
And to confirm with the article:
Would I have bothered to keep the PS3 if it was not for Blu-ray?
I doubt it.
Abe
October 15, 2008 at 10:06
Iv gotten over the whole console war thing, i was into in for a while (silly), but realise now what a waste of time it is. I visit lazygamer everyday, and multiple times a day at that and i love it, even with the 360 being favoured. To come out and attack the owner and the site is childish and pathetic and only serves to reveal your irrellivance
NoMore
October 15, 2008 at 10:15
Who was saying that Lazy must be banned from his own site? I was only implying that he should write better articles than this one.
Something based on fact rather than pure opinion.
I am not sure what i said that offended you V@mp, but if you feel so passionate about defending Lazy, why not do it with facts rather than insults?
0rk0
October 15, 2008 at 10:21
“To insult the editor just because you disagree isn’t particularly grown up.”
Maybe it wasn’t my smartest move ever ,but insulting an estemated third of your readers indirectly isn’t either.
I enjoy the site because it pulls a lot of information from all the other sites I visit, saving me the effort of going there and to get an overall idea of what’s happening. But as said above, if this trend continues, I’ll look else where for my information. And that’s my opinion.
V@mp
October 15, 2008 at 10:23
“Go doubt somewhere else!!!”
Unless I’m missing something, that to me says, leave
the site ;-P
0rk0
October 15, 2008 at 10:30
It’s one thing to point out problems and inform and another to deliberately trying to start a stir. This was your post on PS3za.co.za : “Just a warning, there is an anti-PS3 article going up tomorrow but it ain’t based on this thread.”
This is your site and you can post whatever you want. As a reader of your site I’m telling you that you are going to lose some of us and then what is the point of having it if nobody reads it anymore.
Do as you please…I’ll stick around to see if it improves….
easy
October 15, 2008 at 10:34
i never got into the war, and never will. but i do feel irked when i read slanted articles/reviews. lazygamer clearly has an issue towards the ps3 for whatever reason, and with posts like this, its only going to bait people/fanboys.
if you see it coming… why do it? i find that childish.
NoMore
October 15, 2008 at 10:36
Hey V@mp is that one, two, three or four flashing red lines I see? You seem a little hot under the collar so it must be one…
ferver
October 15, 2008 at 10:37
I completely disagree with you Mac. This is not at all how it’s going to happen. Remember the PS2? It was launched 2 years before the Xbox and GameCube and managed to stay on top of the world till the end.
Once again, it’s all about the games and if the Xbox 360 continues to take Sony’s Exclusive, than the Xbox will have no problem.
PS3 will obviously have price cuts but it’s a long way before they reach the price of the Xbox and at some point, price doesn’t matter anymore.
Anyways, I’m a Wii owner and I’m completely satisfied with it. Let’s not forget that it’s the real winner in this generation^^
0rk0
October 15, 2008 at 10:42
@ V@mp
I’m sorry to hear about your problem…deal with it.
I’m not the one who has done the stirring around here and are more than in my right to complain since I’m the one reading it.
It is published to be read after all is it not?
We have enough negativity in our country as it is, we don’t need it in our gaming as well.
I’m trying to give some feedback from a readers side, although it might have been a bit to strong, I agree.
Ps – by the looks of your comment you could use some of your own medicine…
V@mp
October 15, 2008 at 10:46
Jip, it’s one 😉
Nah man, it’s just that lately people get personal
with the editor of the site instead of giving some
creative criticism (pardon the spelling)
But I’ve had my 4th cup of coffee now, so things are
returning to a slightly normal state.
LazySAGamer
October 15, 2008 at 10:50
That was in reply to someone stating that I mustn’t use that thread for an article on this site.
If you notice I kept my word and if I really wanted to just bash on the PS3 that thread would have been perfect ammo.
LazySAGamer
October 15, 2008 at 10:51
Now you know what the Lazy is for 😉
0rk0
October 15, 2008 at 10:51
I was pointing out that the article wasn’t saying anything and aimed at stirring again.
The price is correct for what you’re getting, but obviously it’s going to suffer because it’s still too high compared to the competition.
I never said that I don’t agree that a price cut will do wonders.
V@mp
October 15, 2008 at 10:53
Giving your opinion and giving feedback is all good
and well, but yes, it just seemed a bit strong
to insult the editor. That’s the only problem I had.
Constructive criticism is always good and a good old-
fashioned debate is always welcome.
And yes, we have way too much problems in our country
at the moment, I agree. Gaming should be fun, otherwise
what’s the point. Which is why fanboys and flamewars
are always silly to me (altho good for a laugh) and
I never get involved in them.
P.s. I have an appointment this afternoon 😉
SlippyMadFrog
October 15, 2008 at 11:03
I’m confused now. Lazy’s article was saying the same thing about the price cuts that you are saying but somehow his article “has no point” and is stirring?
There is no reward for defending Lazy but I don’t seem to get your logic. I’m not trying to insult you, I’m just trying to understand you so please correct me where I’m wrong.
Fred
October 15, 2008 at 11:05
Getting slightly annoyed by the ps3 bashing but still enjoying the site.
SlippyMadFrog
October 15, 2008 at 11:08
If you feel insulted because someone said something bad about a toy then maybe the problem isn’t with the site but maybe with you? I’m just saying.
Upon reading an article like this, why not debate the point like an calm adult instead of going on a whitch hunt? If you have confidence in the PS3, why act like this?
SlippyMadFrog
October 15, 2008 at 11:13
I agree with Abe, good post
V@mp
October 15, 2008 at 11:16
jip
LazySAGamer
October 15, 2008 at 11:19
just a thought… is it actually the image that has gotten people upset?
I don’t think the PS3 is doomed, I just thought the image was cute
0rk0
October 15, 2008 at 11:59
The article was stating the obvious, what every PS3 owner knows, and that is the fact that the PS3 is priced too high but it’s value for money.It’s the way in which it was said, that the people at Sony don’t know what they are doing and thus saying the PS3 is doomed, just like the picture above.
My gripe isn’t with this one article but all the negativity around the PS3 on the site. Most of the time if something pops-up on this site about the PS3 it’s negative.
For an example the Doomed picture above or the “Dark days for the PS3” that was added to the Tekken going multi-platform. Totally unneccesary and will obviously aggrivate the PS3 owners. As said below, he’s entitled to say what we wants, but if he loses readers it’s his own fault.
0rk0
October 15, 2008 at 12:22
Like you have a right to publish something I have a right to complain and disagree. I have apologised somewhere in the crazy thread for being too harsh, but I’m clearly not the only one feeling this way.
You on the other hand are the childish one, since I clearly already said that I was too strong in my approuch (10:21), and still you cannot let go of it. Maybe you are the one that isn’t as mature as he thinks he is.
I’m just saying.
If you can dish out, you must be able to receive as well : )
SlippyMadFrog
October 15, 2008 at 12:25
I just read that article again and I must say that there was nothing wrong with it. All points made in the article was valid. Kaz Hirai did say something that was weired and out of place with the PS3, why blame Lazy for reporting on it? Rather blame Kaz Hirai for saying that sh!t. Anyways, it is far from a “the PS3 is doomed!” article.
The PS3 is getting a lot of negative stories in the press and I’d be concerned as well if I spent R5000 on the PS3 and all these stories made me feel as if I made the wrong choice. I’m sure the PS3 is great but why be so defensive about it? If you have full confidence in the PS3 then why are you here calling people idiots who looks at the PS3 strange? Why not debate the points without getting all wound up and calling people names?
0rk0
October 15, 2008 at 12:26
I agree with easy, why stir?
But tell you what, when it’s only you 3 left on this site (Abe,V@amp and Slippy) then you can continue comforting each other in nowing how mature you are.
SlippyMadFrog
October 15, 2008 at 12:28
Do you maybe have a link to that thread? I would like to read it.
LazySAGamer
October 15, 2008 at 12:31
Just a note. the Tekken article was written by a different person than this one…
It was even edited by a different person.
One of the aims of all articles on this site though is to be opinionated, you can ask anyone who has ever posted here and they will tell you that is the rule.
Have an opinion and back it up, If you actually count the number of anti-PS3 articles compared to the number of articles you will see that it is quite small. It all depends on your perspective.
LazySAGamer
October 15, 2008 at 13:00
Now that would get me lynched 😛
0rk0
October 15, 2008 at 13:03
@ Slippy 12:25
I’m entitled to my opinion just as much as the next. And when I think someone is doing something stupid ,like chasing his readers,I can call it what it is. If you can insult your readers your readers can insult you. Period.
LazySAGamer
October 15, 2008 at 13:11
I would just like to state that I have never insulted my readers….
You may be insulted by something I say about the PS3/360/Wii or a game of some sort but I have never resorted to attacking a reader over it.
Fred
October 15, 2008 at 13:25
Who knows , maybe the mouse has some tricks up his sleeve , could it be that the cat is actually the doomed one?
LazySAGamer
October 15, 2008 at 13:34
dynamite comes in small packages after all.
SlippyMadFrog
October 15, 2008 at 13:48
“And when I think someone is doing something stupid ,like chasing his readers,I can call it what it is”
Like when Lazygamer had an opinion on Kaz Hirai saying Xmas is about prices when the PS3 is the most expensive? I guess everybody except Lazygamer may have an opinion.
Nick
October 15, 2008 at 13:51
You know the truth is that whenever we post up bad news about the Xbox 360, no one really cares that much. Is it because people have just become used to the fact that it has so many issues? I don’t know…
I am not so sure about the PS3 being doomed but a price cut wouldn’t hurt.
SlippyMadFrog
October 15, 2008 at 13:53
We will, thanks
Maybe you can go to the PS3 forum and comfort your fellow PS3 fans on how great the PS3 is. That seems the only type of opinnion you can tolerate.
V@mp
October 15, 2008 at 14:50
That’ll certainly improve my chances in the
competitions 🙂
BHW
October 15, 2008 at 15:26
You know there is something wrong with the world in general and the internet specifically when people apologise for spelling a word correctly
V@mp
October 15, 2008 at 16:30
Just covering my bases as I wasn’t sure about
the spelling. I’m sure the Matrix won’t go into
a blue screen of death over it or anything 🙂
LazySAGamer
October 15, 2008 at 21:58
Just checking in here, your response to SlippyMadFrog seems to imply he wrote the story… did I miss something here?
Don’t worry we here at Lazygamer are professional at receiving abuse… especially Nick… he has a permanent flamesuit on…