When it comes to Witcher developers CD Projekt RED, there are two principles that come to mind. Their strong stance against any form of DRM, and their reluctance to charge for post-launch content. The Witcher 2, for example, revealed a ton of content for free following launch, and 16 free DLC pieces have already been revealed for the upcoming conclusion to the trilogy. The two newly announced expansions, however, do not fall under that banner.
In an out of nowhere move, CD Projekt RED have revealed two massive expansions for The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt, the first of which will launch later this year. The two expansions are said to contain more than 30 hours of content, allowing players to explore more lore-filled adventures as everyone’s favourite monster hunter, Geralt of Rivia.
The first expansion, titled Heart of Stone, will be the shorter of the two. The 10-hour plus adventure will see Geralt venture into No Man’s Land and the twisted alleys of Oxenfurt, as he completes a mysterious task for the fittingly cunning Man of Glass. The second piece, titled Blood and Wine, will be double the length and introduce players to an all new part of the already massive Witcher 3 map. Here, Geralt will explore Toussaint – a land described as suspiciously untainted by war, and creepily cheerful as a result. Of course, there’s a dark secret at work behind the scenes.
Heart of Stone is expected to launch this October, while Blood and Wine will wrap things up early next year. There’s no word on pricing yet, but there also doesn’t seem to be any deals in terms of exclusivity. Both expansions will launch on PC, PS4 and Xbox One simultaneously.
Expecting some backlash (especially since CD Projekt Red have been so against paid DLC in the past), co-founder Marcin Iwinski explained that these expansions represent a massive amount of additional work that exceed some full-priced games on the market in terms of quantity.
“We remember the time when add-on disks truly expanded games by delivering meaningful content. As gamers, we’d like to bring that back. We’ve said in the past that if we ever decide to release paid content, it will be vast in size and represent real value for money.”
A whole 30-hours of gameplay is certainly nothing to scoff at, and it would be hard to fault CD Projekt RED in this regard. There’s still 16 pieces of DLC that are coming for free, and it would be a little criminal to ask for this much game time to be handed out pro-bono as well. Still, Iwinski urges fans to wait for reviews if they’re still unsure.
“While we’re offering the Expansion Pass now, we want to make one thing clear: don’t buy it if you have any doubts. Wait for reviews or play The Witcher and see if you like it first. As always, it’s your call.”
Seems more than fair to me, and from a studio that has yet to disappoint. How do you feel about it though? Are the paid expansions a justified request, or a cheap backtrack on previous company policy?
Last Updated: April 8, 2015
Capt. Bob of the Blood Ravens
April 8, 2015 at 09:36
If it’s a true expansion then I don’t have a problem with it. By that I mean new content, new areas and most importantly a completely new/separate story line for the expansions then I’d be happy to pay for them. If all they do is add a few more hours that really should have been part of the original game then I’m not supporting a money grab. I’ll pick them up in a few years time at 80% off.
Current price on GOG.com is $25. Seems a bit steep so I think I’ll wait for the reviews on the expansions. Waiting eagerly for the game though 🙂
Greylingad
April 8, 2015 at 09:39
I’m starting to like these guys even more, I mean how many developers would tell you to wait instead of just plundering forward and squeezing everyone for their money, bloody well done, I say, and just for that they have a sale this side, hell I’ll even purchase it at full price because of this, even if it takes me four centuries to finally start playing the game….
Hammersteyn
April 8, 2015 at 09:49
I’m fine with it as long as the DLC has more than 8 hours of gameplay. Not canceling The pre(Order) just because of this.
Ir0nseraph
April 8, 2015 at 09:50
Yeah still getting the game, they are just a gaming company , if DLC is worth the price even better.
Hammersteyn
April 8, 2015 at 09:52
They are the prime example of a company showing love for gamers at the moment not trying to gouge their customers with cheap skins or additional crappy maps
Ir0nseraph
April 8, 2015 at 09:54
True the only part that irritates me a bit , is the fact that before the game hits the street , DLC already announced for a price, but they need to make money , and if it’s that amount of content at a good price , I might just grab it.
Hammersteyn
April 8, 2015 at 09:57
This one line sold me “We remember the time when add-on disks truly expanded games by
delivering meaningful content. As gamers, we’d like to bring that back.”
Now it may be BS. Especially if it came from EA. But that just sounds like something one of us aka a gamer would say.
Greylingad
April 8, 2015 at 09:58
Well Strictly speaking it’s not DLC as such, but yes, I also have a problem with announcements like this before the game is even out…
Ir0nseraph
April 8, 2015 at 09:59
The whole DLC vs expansion 😉
Dutch Matrix
April 8, 2015 at 10:01
I think it is more to do with logistics than anything else. WHilst they are making the main game, they also plan the DLC. Hence, voice actors and the like can do all their work in one go, as opposed to getting them back two months later.
Greylingad
April 8, 2015 at 10:06
Yep! that is the case! During the last bit of the development phase you push the game through it’s QA rigmarole, during that time the game sits comfortably in it’s code freeze, like an undisturbed honey badger, so the devs just sit there staring at it doing nothing, to keep them busy though they do the whole DLC thing, which complicates matters, because they end up spilling the beans about it being in development… If they could just not mention anything about the DLC, if only at least until release, it would make the DLC feel anticipated, not squashed in like some poor ant in a mini, with two elephants strapped in next to it…
Edit, sorry about the rant…
Dutch Matrix
April 8, 2015 at 10:08
Ag, I don’t know. Look, I hate cosmetic DLC like most. But expansion packs like these, and news about them is not all bad. Games are friggin expensive these days. So Expansions makes the initial investment in a game that more attractive.
Greylingad
April 8, 2015 at 10:12
Exactly! We pay through our ears for the bloody things and then games like dEvolve come by with absolutely no replay value and a kakload of these cosmetic makeup packs, it irks me to tell you the truth… genuinely… but then these guys come up with an extra 30 hours of gameplay and it’s just so much more attractive!
Ir0nseraph
April 8, 2015 at 10:14
Even their 10 hour expansion could turn out be more value then the order 1886 , at half the price.
Greylingad
April 8, 2015 at 10:14
Exactly!! These guys need more funding, I swear!
Dutch Matrix
April 8, 2015 at 10:15
20 cents and a skilled Pac-Man player can have more fun for much longer than The Order lasted…
Ir0nseraph
April 8, 2015 at 10:16
XD
Skyblue
April 8, 2015 at 11:15
I accessed the Uncharted 3 store yesterday after finally taking the plunge to finish the trilogy and I was flabbergasted by how much they are charging for DLC and what absolute crap it was.
Nikola
April 8, 2015 at 10:15
I just thought of something The Order is the same lentgh as the DLC for Witcher hahaha lol what a joke!!
Ir0nseraph
April 8, 2015 at 10:16
Hah beat your train of thought by a minute 😛
Nikola
April 8, 2015 at 13:52
daaammn u:))
Hammersteyn
April 8, 2015 at 09:49
Dont support DLC or DRM or….
http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/bstngp.gif
z1n
April 8, 2015 at 09:51
Ryanza is going to be sooooo pissed. He was adamant they would never charge for DLC.
On a side note I’m kinda missing him. DONT DRMDLCWITCHER3PCNOSTEAMGO.
Greylingad
April 8, 2015 at 09:54
WHERE IS HE!? The internet needs it’s exact opposite negative side! Everything is tilting to the imbalance of what is DLC driven DRM PAY TO PLAY ONLYSTEAMORIGINUPLAY! Noooo…Make it stop….
z1n
April 8, 2015 at 09:57
Funny how I was still able to play my Steam games through the load shedding last night :/ much restrict, so DRM.
Greylingad
April 8, 2015 at 10:01
Yes! why oh why do all my games have to fit into one library, where I can manage backups, updates, multiplayer, chat messages and the whole lot, as mentioned, from a central application…. how restricting and obtrusive it is…
z1n
April 8, 2015 at 10:10
We should RIOT! Obviously it’s all a ruse so we buy more hats and they can DRM us more. Once you’re in you can never get out.
Greylingad
April 8, 2015 at 10:14
It’s laaik drucks man… wance you’re hookt it’s tuff to get off it….
RinceThis
April 8, 2015 at 10:09
BWAHAHAHA
FoxOneZA
April 8, 2015 at 10:15
WAHAHAHHAHA!
Loftus
April 8, 2015 at 09:55
“do not full under that banner.” ? chief spell check for this simpleton (me), coz i don’t understand
Loftus
April 8, 2015 at 10:04
don’t bother, i read like my gat! hahaha
Admiral Chief
April 8, 2015 at 10:05
Such a noob
😛
Loftus
April 8, 2015 at 10:10
or just maybe i picked up a typo and to help save Alessandro face it took the blame in the form of my bad reading. 😛
in any case good article, many thanks for the info!
Hammersteyn
April 8, 2015 at 10:11
I type like my gat. Luckily there’s more nazis here than Auschwitz to correct me.
Loftus
April 8, 2015 at 10:16
hahaha yeah i think i have seen one or two of them!
Alessandro Barbosa
April 8, 2015 at 10:26
Don’t blame yourself, I do it all the time.
Like when I read your comment and realized I can’t read my own stuff properly *ninja edit*. Thanks for picking it up 🙂
Loftus
April 8, 2015 at 10:35
sorry about coming over like Admirl chie…i mean a grammer nazi, i just seriously couldn’t comprehend that sentance and wanted someone to explain it to me 🙂
Dutch Matrix
April 8, 2015 at 10:36
*sentence
Admiral Chief
April 8, 2015 at 10:41
Lol, missed your comment, also, yeah, really bothered me
Admiral Chief
April 8, 2015 at 10:40
*Admiral
*Chief
*sentence
Viking Of Science
April 8, 2015 at 10:00
Any extra piece of game that gives you more than 4 hours of content is an expansion. Besides. if both add 30 hours of content (which will be good because CDPR) for $25. Hell that’s like 2 AAA titles for less than half the price. I’m in.
Admiral Chief
April 8, 2015 at 10:06
Call it “expansion pack” and then it will be ok
XD
Guild
April 8, 2015 at 10:07
No, don’t support DLC/DRM. They sold out.
Don’t support Witcher. Some other game is coming 😛
Hammersteyn
April 8, 2015 at 10:08
XD
WitWolfy
April 8, 2015 at 10:08
I have no doubt that this game is going to be epic regardless.
RinceThis
April 8, 2015 at 10:09
RyanZa, I hope his internet is down 0_O
Hammersteyn
April 8, 2015 at 10:09
Don’t support Witcher 3, Cyberpunk is coming? 😛
Ir0nseraph
April 8, 2015 at 10:09
XD
RinceThis
April 8, 2015 at 10:10
You know it!
RinceThis
April 8, 2015 at 10:10
No problem with expansions, just call them that!
Admiral Chief
April 8, 2015 at 10:11
I already said that 4 minutes ago, sheesh Rince
😛
RinceThis
April 8, 2015 at 10:11
I don’t listen to what you have to say 😛 Also didn’t see. Where is RyanZa? He tied to his cot because of this news?
z1n
April 8, 2015 at 10:12
He’s busy driving in Mugabe’s motorcade. They don’t have DRM in Zim.
Admiral Chief
April 8, 2015 at 10:12
To be fair, they don’t have a lot in Zim in any case…
z1n
April 8, 2015 at 10:13
Yeah they’re planning to DRM the water soon enough. That’s why ryanza is on such an important mission.
Wraith
April 8, 2015 at 11:20
Don’t they have our electricity?
Admiral Chief
April 8, 2015 at 10:12
I think he is doing what Darryn did all those years ago in the shower…
Dutch Matrix
April 8, 2015 at 10:12
Years ago or five minutes ago?
Hammersteyn
April 8, 2015 at 10:14
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view4/3206159/cold-shower-o.gif
Admiral Chief
April 8, 2015 at 10:16
Yes, quite similar
Nikola
April 8, 2015 at 10:14
Yeah I really don’t mind this, I don’t mind paying for expansions that add to the story and give us new gameplay at all. Now is it May yet?
Matthew Holliday
April 8, 2015 at 10:15
it will never be May
Dutch Matrix
April 8, 2015 at 10:20
You just had to go there…
http://x.annihil.us/u/prod/marvel/i/mg/3/b0/543c41991c66d.jpg
Admiral Chief
April 8, 2015 at 10:21
O_O
Season 2?
Dutch Matrix
April 8, 2015 at 10:21
Yup. Fifty Shades of May…
Hammersteyn
April 8, 2015 at 10:22
Those toes. I mean yes.
Dutch Matrix
April 8, 2015 at 10:28
She can have the toes of an Ogre, but by the Gods, I’ve been crushing on Ming-Na Wen since Street Fighter days.
Hammersteyn
April 8, 2015 at 10:29
I like her toes, actually I like everything about her
Dutch Matrix
April 8, 2015 at 10:30
I would suck on those toes for a week.
Greylingad
April 8, 2015 at 10:31
Wao… but… it’s…toes…and then… a week?
Admiral Chief
April 8, 2015 at 10:33
More on the weekend?
Greylingad
April 8, 2015 at 10:34
I need my red stapler….
Hammersteyn
April 8, 2015 at 10:35
*Hides all flammable materials.
Dutch Matrix
April 8, 2015 at 10:33
You do not understand. Them be Ming-Na’s toes…
Admiral Chief
April 8, 2015 at 10:33
I’ve been crushing on Skye since watching the show
Hammersteyn
April 8, 2015 at 10:35
I like the May and then British chick more. Would give her plenty of resons to say Oh my. Good and bad reasons
Admiral Chief
April 8, 2015 at 10:39
Indeed, however, there is just something about Skye that really revs my motor
Dutch Matrix
April 8, 2015 at 10:35
She’s okay. But May’s got the ass kicking Asian hotness I love so much. No Geoff, that is not an invite for you to start doing Martial Arts.
Hammersteyn
April 8, 2015 at 10:36
Dough Fu?
Dutch Matrix
April 8, 2015 at 10:36
Everybody was Tim-Fu Fighting!
Nikola
April 8, 2015 at 13:53
I am hoping hahah I need a win, everything get’s delayed now days:(
Hammersteyn
April 8, 2015 at 10:16
June if you order from AWX 😛
Ir0nseraph
April 8, 2015 at 10:17
LoL
Ir0nseraph
April 8, 2015 at 10:21
Well I will tell you one thing I don’t want to be the poor employee to inform Nikola his game is delayed yet again , they probably used an SMS.
Hammersteyn
April 8, 2015 at 10:22
SMS from a Private Number.
Ir0nseraph
April 8, 2015 at 10:22
XD
Nikola
April 8, 2015 at 13:52
Hahahaha clearly ffs been waiting on Borderlands for ever!!
Sageville
April 8, 2015 at 15:02
AWX: “Just go get a copy from BT games, no-one needs to find out! This guy looks like he wants to kill someone!”
Ali G
April 8, 2015 at 10:20
Dis game gonna be absolute rank ratha just wait fe da next fifa
Admiral Chief
April 8, 2015 at 10:20
Ryanza?
Loftus
April 8, 2015 at 10:21
It puts the lotion in the basket, else it gets the hose again!
Ali G
April 8, 2015 at 10:36
Got to be careful wiv those hose, yous can pik up sumfink east side rank
Greylingad
April 8, 2015 at 10:38
Would that be the flame thrower hose… or the barrel of a large gun hose maybe… please be one of those…
Loftus
April 8, 2015 at 10:41
obscure movie quote, you youngsters wouldn’t have seen it.
Greylingad
April 8, 2015 at 10:44
Ahem… I do remember that movie actually… I still get the creeps when mister Hopkins smells her through the cubicle…
Loftus
April 8, 2015 at 10:47
Very creepy and to think he was only on screen for little of 16 min in the whole movie!
Greylingad
April 8, 2015 at 10:56
Yes!! I try to suppress those memories… But if there is one thing to say about it, if you can instil so much fear by so little, you’ve executed it perfectly…
Greylingad
April 8, 2015 at 10:22
I bet it took 15 minutes to write that…
Ali G
April 8, 2015 at 10:23
Narr I use me predictive text dig da main geeza
Greylingad
April 8, 2015 at 10:24
Holy mother of all things good! It’s trying to communicate!
Hammersteyn
April 8, 2015 at 10:24
Respek!
Ali G
April 8, 2015 at 10:25
Chek me bruva me mate Dave in da house knows wot its all about
Greylingad
April 8, 2015 at 10:26
*’bout
Ali G
April 8, 2015 at 10:27
Narr it’s about, didn’t yous go to scool? Is it coz I is black
Greylingad
April 8, 2015 at 10:29
purple, tha is de problam…. Oh lord… it’s rubbing off on me…
Ali G
April 8, 2015 at 10:30
Narr shame in rubbin one hout every so oftun if ya Julie iz hout hof turf
Admiral Chief
April 8, 2015 at 10:31
It’s like some sort of communication…
Greylingad
April 8, 2015 at 10:33
I’m still trying to figure out just what layer of decryption is required…
Edit: apparently it’s the buffoon algorithm…
Loftus
April 8, 2015 at 10:39
en jy trap my uit oor my spelling! hahahaha
Admiral Chief
April 8, 2015 at 10:42
Daai…daai is iets anders. Dis asof hy probeer kommunikeer…
Loftus
April 8, 2015 at 10:45
solank jy dit nie kos gee nie sal dit jou nie huis toe volg nie.
Greylingad
April 8, 2015 at 10:46
Nee moerdyk van tonder, hierdie…watookal dit is, het ‘n sesde sintuig…
Loftus
April 8, 2015 at 10:50
Bwahaha I recon it is a devolve troll sub specie from the 1990’s
Greylingad
April 8, 2015 at 10:56
Yes! Research has indicated about as much!
Hammersteyn
April 8, 2015 at 10:27
XD
HairyEwok
April 8, 2015 at 10:27
The gangster oozes from this post… Still trying to figure out the link between fifa and Witcher though.
Dutch Matrix
April 8, 2015 at 10:29
Balls!
HairyEwok
April 8, 2015 at 10:30
Geralds balls for taking on huge monters or just balls in general XD
Ali G
April 8, 2015 at 10:29
Fifa iz just class, it’s got me bwoy cristiano ronaldo in hit
Brendon Bosch
April 8, 2015 at 10:23
If it’s worth it i’ll buy it but it’s CDPR so I doubt it won’t be worth it
Kromas is drunk with power!
April 8, 2015 at 11:08
Ryanza is going to have a blowout. In the mean time I don’t care about this until I actually have my hands on the actual game for now.
Ir0nseraph
April 8, 2015 at 11:17
You say blow out , I say mental breakdown , anyone taking bets 🙂
Kromas is drunk with power!
April 8, 2015 at 11:18
How about both or as we call it EFF syndrome. 🙂
Ir0nseraph
April 8, 2015 at 11:19
XD
Rock789
April 8, 2015 at 11:17
Yeah, I’m quite ok with this. Expansion is a vastly different beast to most modern-day dlc’s (like having to download a difficulty level being rated as ‘dlc’… I’m sorry – it’s just not! It’s a part of the game you hid behind a paywall!) and am happy to pay for the privilege. Still super excited for Witcher 3 and hoping I can find 200 hours to finish it (too many non-gaming commitments lately!).
Brady miaau
April 8, 2015 at 11:51
Sleep? Is that a requirement.
I am studying again as well……..
But will get asap.
Pieter Kruger
April 8, 2015 at 12:03
But but but @Ryanza promised this would NEVER happen..??????
K1FF J1MB0B (sizzle edition)
April 8, 2015 at 12:09
Don’t worry guys, CDPR were nice enough to give us that free goodwill hair styles DLC, so that makes this new DLC ok.
Ryanza
April 8, 2015 at 12:31
My name is popping up a lot. Do you people need a comment from me?
https://internationalhouseofgeek.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/mona-dlc.jpeg
Greylingad
April 8, 2015 at 12:37
THE MAN HAS RETURNED!!!!
Guild
April 8, 2015 at 12:44
So you supporting DLC/DRM now?
z1n
April 8, 2015 at 14:11
You’re famous here dude! Or perhaps infamous, not exactly sure witcher 3.
Ryanza
April 8, 2015 at 14:15
Nah. People just like to troll me. It’s a game they play.
Ryanza
April 8, 2015 at 13:11
Fine let me make a comment.
Let me start with, Witcher 3 is getting 16 free DLC. I am not a fan of DLC. The Witcher 3 DLC is shit (skins, beards, missions) so it’s just shit DLC. But the free DLC will serve a much greater goal than just being shit DLC. The 16 free DLC will keep The Witcher 3 in the news every week for two months after the game has been released. That will really help with sales. I am not a fan of the DLC because a lot of retail buyers won’t their hands on the DLC. And the DLC is too shit to be sold in retail.
Now onto the expansion packs. A lot of people have been wanting and asking for expansion packs as added support from CDPR for the Witcher 3 game. CDPR has always said that if they make expansions with heavy content that they will charge for it. That is fine and expected. The content is not made available around launch. So it’s fine.
The Witcher 3 has been delayed three times and even got Cyberpunk 2077 developers to work on The Witcher 3. I always hoped that after the teams were finished with the Witcher 3 that they would just go work on Cyberpunk 2077. But there is a lot of people who want added support like expansion packs for The Witcher 3. From the Witcher 3 team there should be writers, artists, voice actors, ect just doing nothing as the game was delayed three times. So these teams working on added content, is fine.
I am a big supporter of retail and No-DRM in retail. The problem I have with DLC, besides cutting out content meant to be on the launch disc, and with expansion DLC is that retail doesn’t get to buy it. Blizzard I know still supports expansion packs at retail but I care about their shit so I don’t know if they do it properly, DRM, they not doing it properly.
Witch this news of expansion packs for The Witcher 3, 30 hours, two story arcs, one new location, new dialog, ect, for R300 is a good retail price. I just hope that CDPR will pack the two expansion packs and the 16 DLC into a retail package that can sold in retail. If they do that, then it’s all good. But if they keep DLC and these expansion packs as digital only, then fuck em. Don’t support this shit.
The Witcher 3 standard game will not have DRM at retail. Support The Witcher 3 and Support The Witcher 3 at retail. For now, until they announce retail versions for these expansion packs with NO-DRM, Don’t Support this shit.
Don’t Support DRM. Don’t Support DLC. Don’t Support digital only expansion packs. I have a feeling these expansion packs will be good enough for retail, So we might be seeing the expansion packs in retail. The Witcher 3 is coming.
Now can the stupid trolling stop. My name is being brought up with shit next to it. Everytime my name is brought up is that like shitty DLC. And when my name gets used to troll, is that like expansion packs.
z1n
April 8, 2015 at 14:10
I up-voted this reaction 😀
I also think you made a typo in saying you care about Blizzard. Blizzard are a shiyt company that only want money now. They used to give us cool stuff like Warcraft and Diablo, but now, we give them money. AAAND FOR WHAT!?
Good to see you back. NO DRM3 WICHITHERER.
Ryanza
April 8, 2015 at 14:13
Yeah. It was suppose to be, I don’t care. But I wasn’t going to read own shit to look for mistakes. See how damn long that thing was.
z1n
April 8, 2015 at 14:17
Yep. Speed reading helps ;P
I have to commend you for your dedication on the matter. I know some companies that will hire on that alone, if only that company was CDPR.
Ryanza
April 8, 2015 at 14:24
I’ve been doing no drm for awhile now. And the witcher 3 turned out to be a prefect example of how games should be released without drm at retail. Plus the game will be fucking good.
So now it’s about getting people to support this game on day 1. We need high sales numbers for a non drm product. So that we can use this game as an example against drm everytime the gaming industry wants to use lose of sales + pirates to get drm implemented.
So it’s important that the witcher 3 gets supported, from day 1.
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USAMEDIALIES
April 8, 2015 at 15:51
I played Elder Scrolls / Oblivion games on the 360 and really liked them. How is this Witcher game in comparison?
Peter Pan
April 8, 2015 at 16:23
If the actual game is going to be anything like the previous two, then the expansions should be worth the investment as well. I loved The Witcher.
UltimateNinjaPandaDudeGuy
April 8, 2015 at 16:26
I was wondering how they were going to make some more money out of the game.
I have pre-ordered the main, but I think I will wait for reviews on the expansions before I drop any monies there.
CypherGate
April 8, 2015 at 16:29
THIS IS HOW YOU DO PAID FOR DLC!!!
Tulipdame
April 8, 2015 at 16:34
Basically: I applaud them for saying it is up to us and not making the DLC seem mandatory.
I don’t like it being announced before the game is out. Wait for at least 6 months after the main game released before announcing DLC.
And in a case like this, where it adds a load of new content, rather call it an expansion, please.
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