Perception

I like the Xbox One console. I really do. But one thing that no one shares any enthusiasm with me for, is the new Kinect. It’s a bundled with the console and is the reason why you’re paying extra for it. But will the public ever come to accept that the Kinect addition is worth the cash? Microsoft’s Albert Penello certainly thinks so.

Speaking to OXM, the planning and marketing director for Microsoft explained that perceptions would change when the console launched, as the new Kinect is meant to to complement the console, not serve as a tacky add-on.

“One of the biggest challenges with Kinect is that the people who are the most vocal against it, often haven’t used it,” Penello said.

You know, we’ve sold 26 million of them against a 76 million unit install base, or something along those lines – but the problem is it’s an accessory right? And whenever you have an accessory, you know, as a guy who’s worked on platforms now for three generations, there’s always a pro and a con to an accessory.

The con is, when developers can’t rely on it, when they don’t know it’s there, they’re never going to take full advantage of it. So, you get these inconsistent gaming experiences, you get inconsistent implementation, game developers had to choose to take CPU power away from the console to support the skeletons. And what we said was, for those of us that use it – like I don’t play Pixar Rush, it’s not my kind of game, but I use Kinect all the time for Xbox pause, Xbox play.

And when you see the features that the new Kinect can do – we just said, you know what, like let’s take that decision of having to make that trade off away and the console will support it, it’s native, it was engineered for it.

Penello also explained that the improved Kinect will help sell the console and games, especially now that the device was reliable. Or more importantly that it worked properly, the way it was meant to. “Everybody can rely on it, now that we’re not burdening developers [with the task of making] trade-offs with games that use it, that means more people are going to experience it.”

I will say that I after having a hands-free-on wiggle session with the device at E3, I was kinda impressed. It’s way, way better than the current Kinect and while there are still one or two moments where the device isn’t too responsive, it’s still a massive improvement.

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Last Updated: September 4, 2013

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was reviewed on PC

76 Comments

  1. Article OFF?

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    • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

      September 4, 2013 at 13:15

      Voice command. Like as in XBox off

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      • John mul-ti-pass

        September 4, 2013 at 13:23

        Good boy Xbox! Now roll over

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        • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

          September 4, 2013 at 13:26

          G’day Xbox… I SAID G’DAY!!!

          Uh… howzit xbox… uh.. I tune you xbox… HOWZIT DOOS!

          (Xbox does not understand Australian English… or South African English… or even British English for that matter)

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          • Hammersteyn

            September 4, 2013 at 13:27

            Bwahahaha

          • RinceThisandFINALLYlvUP!

            September 4, 2013 at 14:31

            Does anyone understand British English?

          • John mul-ti-pass

            September 4, 2013 at 14:38

            They speak English?

          • OVG

            September 4, 2013 at 14:56

            They used to. Then thanks to football they are started speaking funny. All those headers.

  2. John mul-ti-pass

    September 4, 2013 at 13:06

    Maybe all it needs is a pair of glasses

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  3. OVG

    September 4, 2013 at 13:07

    Well it is not going to see me in its On-Line DATA bank thats for sure.

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    • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

      September 4, 2013 at 13:14

      ovg OFF

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      • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

        September 4, 2013 at 14:25

        OVG ON!!

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        • RinceThisandFINALLYlvUP!

          September 4, 2013 at 14:31

          OVG’s ALWAYS on, trololo!

          Reply

          • OVG

            September 4, 2013 at 14:32

            Even in sleep mode.

    • Hammersteyn

      September 4, 2013 at 13:26

      • OVG

        September 4, 2013 at 13:34

        🙂

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        • Hammersteyn

          September 4, 2013 at 13:38

          Oh no, that’s brilliant!

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  4. Umar Final Fantasy 15 Hopeful

    September 4, 2013 at 13:18

    It’s good that they are making the Kinect an integral part of the One. It does give them an edge in terms of differentiating themselves.it is no longer an accessory but a standard peripheral. That said, if it is really improved, then it will be a great selling point

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    • OVG

      September 4, 2013 at 13:20

      I already have a TV remote.

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      • Umar Final Fantasy 15 Hopeful

        September 4, 2013 at 13:22

        But..but..does your remote or controller turn the xbox on and off???

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        • Hammersteyn

          September 4, 2013 at 13:26

          Depends on how hard you throw

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        • OVG

          September 4, 2013 at 13:30

          Eskom does that never the less 😛

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        • Jeremy

          November 9, 2013 at 05:15

          Can a controller turn the X-box one and off? Not sure as I don’t own one, but the PS controller can do that. Amazing right?

          Reply

      • Jason Andrew Hahn

        September 4, 2013 at 13:28

        clever -_- but you can’t buy a VCR (both consoles) without one 😛

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  5. Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

    September 4, 2013 at 13:24

    I stopped reading at “I like the Xbox One console. I really do…”. Now, I’m going to spend the rest of this afternoon trolling the cotton fluff out of Darryn!

    Darryn want an Xbone! Darryn wants an Xbone!

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    • Umar Final Fantasy 15 Hopeful

      September 4, 2013 at 13:26

      naa na na naa na, he wants an Xbone.
      Darryn And Xbone sitting in a tree… K I S S I N G

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      • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

        September 4, 2013 at 13:27

        K… I…. S… S…I.. .. OH SNAP! Darryn didn’t get to second base!

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        • Umar Final Fantasy 15 Hopeful

          September 4, 2013 at 13:28

          Lol Agh shame, I guess that extra rubber in his wallet is never going to be used

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        • Major Commodore 64 Darryn B

          September 4, 2013 at 13:42

          Guess who’s only getting shit review copy games from now on? Go on! Guess! HAHA!

          Reply

          • Umar Final Fantasy 15 Hopeful

            September 4, 2013 at 13:43

            Give him Ride to Hell:Retribution !!

          • Hammersteyn

            September 4, 2013 at 13:44

            Good heavens anything but that!

          • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

            September 4, 2013 at 13:44

            🙁 That might kill me…

          • Umar Final Fantasy 15 Hopeful

            September 4, 2013 at 13:45

            I’m sorry 🙁

          • Umar Final Fantasy 15 Hopeful

            September 4, 2013 at 13:45

            LOL my god I really wana play it and see how bad it is….DEM sex scenes

          • Hammersteyn

            September 4, 2013 at 13:46

            Apparently it’s fully clothed. So what does he cut a hole first?

          • Umar Final Fantasy 15 Hopeful

            September 4, 2013 at 13:47

            Dry humping.To avoid any unwanted pregnancies

          • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

            September 4, 2013 at 13:50

            Like.. a boss?

          • Umar Final Fantasy 15 Hopeful

            September 4, 2013 at 13:51

            I don’t think that applies to dry humping. lol a boss tears it up…okay wait I’m sounding pretty gangsta now. A boss politely decomposes that behind

          • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

            September 4, 2013 at 13:44

            Son of a… Ah comeon man… Show some mercy!

          • RinceThisandFINALLYlvUP!

            September 4, 2013 at 14:33

            POWER!

          • Weanerdog

            September 4, 2013 at 15:13

            Make him review all the tier X tanks in World of tanks

  6. Jason Andrew Hahn

    September 4, 2013 at 13:27

    I am hopeful for the kinect, I’m so glad they didn’t budge on this — It’s the fanboys bitching about the system they have never intended to buy, and trying to cut my experience every which way… Any positive boost, corrections, policy reversal was never meant with praise, they were met with yet more bitching you can’t win with the internet microsoft.

    They were the enemy from last gen for having users subscribe although Sony is doing it now, it’s ok -_- …..

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    • Umar Final Fantasy 15 Hopeful

      September 4, 2013 at 13:30

      Not really the uhh ‘bitching’ was justified by the fact that not all those ‘features’ were positive. When MS does something good…..it is met with praise, minus the ignorant minority

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    • Hammersteyn

      September 4, 2013 at 13:32

      Yeah it’s true Sony is doing it. But I primarily sub to PS+ to store my saved games. Then all the games came every month along with the subscription. Latency is so bad in South Africa sometimes that it’s not even worth playing online. So I will continue to support PS+ so that I know my saved games are save when the worst happens and for the sake of getting free games monthly. If Sony removed this I wouldn’t be bothered.

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      • FoxOneZA - X-Therminator

        September 4, 2013 at 14:15

        Latency is ISP related. I’ve had no qualms with latency on PSN or Live. Every afternoon I have at least 2 buttery smooth games of FIFA 13 on PSN.

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        • Hammersteyn

          September 4, 2013 at 14:20

          Lucky you. I had to switch twice and now I get smooth games 75% of the time

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      • Jonah Cash

        September 4, 2013 at 16:09

        At least two times every month I phone Telkom to have a hissy fit about my line speed going AWOL on me!! Here where I live is no cell phone data coverage at all!! Hell I have a signal booster that I forced Vodacom to come and put in at my house for free and my signal is still shit!! I live close to one of the biggest Malls in the Northern Suburbs in Cape Town so not even in the middle of no where!! I hate Telkom and hope they can just privatise and let us catch up with the rest of the world!!

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        • Hammersteyn

          September 4, 2013 at 16:35

          Agreed

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    • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

      September 4, 2013 at 13:38

      You kind of win people over if you have more features – rather than less. Xbox live hasn’t changed much over the years. Sure, the dashboard changed to accommodate more ads. We ended up paying more every few years, and YES! Xbox live has finally taken a page from Sony’s book with the monthly free games, but seriously… that is an insult. We’re getting MAGIC this month. MAGIC!! I mean what the fuck?

      What you really should be asking is, why has Microsoft rested on their laurels with xbox live and the xbone? And it has nothing to do with vocal criticism. The failures and reversals of the Xbone is not because of “fanboys bitching”, but rather a realisation that Microsoft was caught with their pants down. They tried to go down a very consumer-unfriendly path and they were justifiable crucified for it. The fact that they’ve been unable to return from the first set of 180s is merely a reminder of how utterly out of touch they’ve become.

      Fortunately, corporations have no feelings, so don’t worry Microsoft actually doesn’t care. They’re probably going to focus on mobiles next gen any way.

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      • Hammersteyn

        September 4, 2013 at 13:42

        You have a valid point about mobile devices. Iron Man 3 and World War Z skipped the PC and consoles because they now that crappy movie games doesn’t sell anymore and it’s to expensive to make.

        Instead these game are only available on IOS and Android.

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      • OVG

        September 4, 2013 at 13:52

        You know it. We are just numbers.

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      • RinceThisandFINALLYlvUP!

        September 4, 2013 at 14:33

        You just made me cry. Bad Banana!

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    • OVG

      September 4, 2013 at 13:45

      I am sure Microsoft’s 15 year plan to own the American living room is finally coming to an end. But they should have boiled the frog slowly for those who are not American.
      It is just economically non viable outside of America.

      They only seemed to realise that when Project Red informed them that they cannot even flipping play The Witcher 3 in their country upon release as they were outside of the 21 countries listed for support.

      So many other FORCED MANDATORY decisions.

      They had to do 180s or the install base would have just been American.

      If I was American I would be all over the ONE considering XBOX LIVE DATA states that gamers only game 1 third of the time while on LIVE.

      But I am looking for an off line gaming console not Skype. I do not care for 180s. Thats like your political party changing their mandate after they get the vote. Not very trustworthy.

      It will be neck and neck again as it all seems to be about identical 3rd party multi plat games these days anyway.

      So the cheaper console makes sense.

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      • FoxOneZA - X-Therminator

        September 4, 2013 at 14:21

        You want an offline console? You can have it. You can also have the latest exclusives for R720 a pop.

        Consoles need to embrace online and learn from services such as Steam and Ganersgate. There are kickstarters happening for PC titles left, right and center. Those are your nostalgic platformers like the recent Mighty No. 9. Such games will be coming to PC first and then consoles.

        Sure the PS4 does Indie titles but every one of them will becoming to Steam Greenlight.

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    • FoxOneZA - X-Therminator

      September 4, 2013 at 14:14

      The ironic thing is that most that moaned about the original policy won’t even buy the X1. You can’t even say X-B-O-X-1 on any site anymore because you’ll get hounded by Francois(boogie2998) and Angry Joe clones.

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    • RinceThisandFINALLYlvUP!

      September 4, 2013 at 14:52

      Said like someone who doesn’t view this site often. With every 180 MS have done, we have celebrated it, even those not interested in buying the system.

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  7. saneman

    September 4, 2013 at 13:53

    Now if only the the puppets who are paid to print this paid for marketing would realize that the xbone isn’t coming to RSA any time soon.
    And if the main reason why the xbox 360 sold so well was becos it was dirt cheap and wasnt bogged down with extra crappy peripherals. Then why change the game plan. Only poor people and students have xboxs.

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    • Umar Final Fantasy 15 Hopeful

      September 4, 2013 at 13:55

      Serious comment? can’t tell

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      • saneman

        September 4, 2013 at 13:57

        what facts are you battling to comprehend?

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        • Umar Final Fantasy 15 Hopeful

          September 4, 2013 at 13:58

          Poor people and students have Xboxs

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          • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

            September 4, 2013 at 14:02

            Poor people and students? What about the elderly or pensioners? Or are they all Wii gamers?

          • saneman

            September 4, 2013 at 14:05

            they have arthritis so no Wii for them.

          • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

            September 4, 2013 at 14:08

            🙁 How will I game in the future! Kinect 7 wouldn’t be kosher for old man joints, and something tells me bionic implants and cybernetic limbs won’t be real till well after I’m maggot poop! 🙁

          • Brady miaau

            September 4, 2013 at 14:23

            I find that just plain offensive.

            I completely fail to see the humour, there sorry.

          • Umar Final Fantasy 15 Hopeful

            September 4, 2013 at 14:24

            Exactly, I don’t find it funny as well. which is why I was confused if this is a real serious comment

          • saneman

            September 4, 2013 at 14:29

            Nothing wrong with being poor or a student.

          • Brady miaau

            September 4, 2013 at 15:38

            Indeed!

            I suspect a lot of people have been both, at the same time

          • saneman

            September 4, 2013 at 14:29

            Microsoft Xbox 360

            The Xbox 360, currently sitting in a very comfortable second place in
            terms of sales, appeals mainly to males aged between 12 and 17, and
            females aged between 25 and 34. This seems like a bizarre mix but the
            younger age range for boys could explain the level of petty whining and
            douchebaggery on display over Xbox Live.

            Sony PS3

            The PS3 generally seems to appeal to the older generation, with no
            young kids anywhere in the mix. This could just be because the Sony
            machine is so damn expensive that kids are still saving up their pocket
            money for one. Both males and females saw the largest usage amongst the
            18 to 24 age range. This is considered the hardcore range where gamers
            play more games and for longer than any other age range.

          • TiMsTeR1033

            September 4, 2013 at 14:52

            and your info comes from where exactly? I bought a xbox 360 not because it was cheaper but because I wanted gears of war, and it came out before the ps3 did. Also most people I know who got them where adults sooooo um yeah dunno where your facts are… But now I am getting a ps4 Solely on the fact I miss the Sony exclusives and dont see the need to shell out extra cash for kinect, have current kinect and aint that great.

    • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

      September 4, 2013 at 14:01

      “The puppets who are paid…” Wait.. there’s money in game reviewing? Holy… Crabsticks! Where’s my bucket of gold? Damnit… I got bills to pay and a baby momma to support. OG baby!

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      • RinceThisandFINALLYlvUP!

        September 4, 2013 at 14:36

        WTF? You mean, I should have been paid to play OOTS? Banana, we need to have a ‘WORD’ (and when I say word, I mean baseball bat) with Geoff…

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        • FoxOneZA - X-Therminator

          September 4, 2013 at 14:56

          Some say Geoff is Asian and his birth certificate only shows one name; Miyagi.

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  8. Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

    September 4, 2013 at 14:04

    I think this is a sneaky attempt by a certain Mr D, to get BatAffleck of the Week! We’re onto you sir, your subtle trolling is too OBVIOUS! Only Gav will be BatAffleck of the WEEK! GAV GAV GAV GAV! TEAM GAV OR BUST!

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  9. RinceThisandFINALLYlvUP!

    September 4, 2013 at 14:30

    And you can use Skype…

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  10. Brian Murphy

    September 4, 2013 at 17:36

    People would be more enthusiastic for it, if they found more compelling uses for it. Plain and simple. The fact that they’re being forced to buy something that, to date hasn’t satisfied THEM, at $100 extra to the cost of the machine…is a bit silly.

    It’s very simple, make the must-have titles that utilize Kinect in a way gamer’s don’t find stupid, obnoxious, silly and/or a mixture of all 3, and they’ll get it themselves.

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  11. CRAZY

    September 7, 2013 at 12:43

    KINECT STILL SUCKS!!

    Reply

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