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Why hoping Destiny will fail is idiotic

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Earlier this week  our friends over at egmr.net posted an article, with author Caveshen claiming that he wants Destiny to fail for the good of all gamers. Now I’m all for winding people up to get a discussion going but Destiny failing will truly help no one – except perhaps some whiny indie who thinks he is better than everyone else.

The essence of the Destiny fail article is that Activision are reportedly budgeting $500 million for Destiny which if you use some grade 2 maths means they need to sell 16 million copies before even breaking even. The author obviously doesn;t want Destiny to fail because it’s a bad game, but rather suggests that any company investing this much in any game is a troubling indicator for the industry.

That, however, forgets that this budget is spread over a 10 year period with Activision promising to continue to invest in the game and its future and to continue bringing new content to gamers as the game progresses. However even if that wasn’t the case then the idea of a massive company investing half a billon dollars into a game isn’t a bad thing. It means that a company out there, and their shareholders, believe that the industry is healthy enough to entrust a massive amount of money with and that they truly believe they will be making a healthy profit on the other side.

Bobby Kotick hasn’t made the decision to invest this money by himself and trust me the people who are making this decision aren’t doing it to just make gamers happy. They have done the numbers and are taking a very calculated risk that this will end in a huge profit for the company and shareholders.

It also doesn’t mean fewer games will be made and smaller games will be ignored. There are still plenty of other publishers and companies such as EA, Ubisoft, 2K, Konami, Valve plus Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo who are all looking for that next great game to bring in profits.

The worst thing about Activision investing such a huge chunk in a single game and it succeeding is that the pressure will be taken off Call of Duty, Skylanders and World of Warcraft to keep the company strong. That,  in turn allow them to diversify more. You all complain about Call of Duty being a cut-and-paste of the last year and don’t for a second think that Activision doesn’t hear you. But when COD is one of their main incomes do you really think they can take a chance of changing the formula much?

Everyone who hates the Call of Duty model should be embracing Destiny and thanking Activision for showing they really do listen to people; this is the originality you have all been asking for. Appreciate it and stop hating the company just because they are successful. For those who don’t like shooters, well you have no place to complain really with Activision also releasing a slew of different games in other genres and they are also not your only option.

Anyone investing this amount of money in any industry should be applauded rather than having failure wished upon them. As a side note, I’m very worried Destiny won’t be fun, I haven’t had any hands on with the game yet so I’m hoping I’m wrong. I just have a sinking feeling in the pit of my stomach that it will be too intricate for casual gamers to pick up and enjoy.

Last Updated: June 25, 2014

181 Comments

  1. Admiral Chief Cyber Commando

    June 25, 2014 at 12:32

    Just bring it out for PC, your investment will be secure

    Reply

    • Rince&exhale

      June 25, 2014 at 12:37

      In 2 years when it’s on Steam? Trololo

      Reply

    • Kensei Seraph

      June 25, 2014 at 12:38

      They might just release it on PC a month or 2 after the console release.
      That way both the hype and the feelings of abandonment and desire will be at there maximum.

      Reply

      • DarthDiggler

        June 25, 2014 at 16:54

        That way both the hype and the feelings of abandonment and desire will be at there maximum.

        You place far too much importance on the wrong things.

        Reply

        • Kensei Seraph

          June 25, 2014 at 17:14

          It’s a valid marketing strategy.
          Wait until the console players have all said how amazing the game is and all the PC gamers are feeling disappointed that they can’t play it and then make a surprise announcement that it will be coming to PC.

          Reply

    • Hammersteyn

      June 25, 2014 at 12:39

      • Admiral Chief Cyber Commando

        June 25, 2014 at 12:40

        Too soon man, memories of Shaggy still too fresh

        Reply

        • Hammersteyn

          June 25, 2014 at 12:40

          Uh oh. I seem to have missed something?

          Reply

          • Admiral Chief Cyber Commando

            June 25, 2014 at 12:42

            The dude that did Shaggy’s voice died recently

          • Hammersteyn

            June 25, 2014 at 12:43

            Oh….. damn, sorry man.

          • Admiral Chief Cyber Commando

            June 25, 2014 at 12:44

            Hehe, np, just sad, a part of my childhood died right there

          • Hammersteyn

            June 25, 2014 at 12:47

            Mine too. I’m a bit sad panda

          • Rags

            June 25, 2014 at 12:46

          • Admiral Chief Cyber Commando

            June 25, 2014 at 12:46

            O_O

          • Hammersteyn

            June 25, 2014 at 12:57

            Wow, just wow

          • oVg FX

            June 25, 2014 at 13:07

            Scooby dooby dogy doo doo let me play with your poo poo

          • Rince&exhale

            June 25, 2014 at 14:00

            HAHAHAHAHAH!

          • Rince&exhale

            June 25, 2014 at 14:00

            Eat da po po!

          • Sir Rants A Lot Llew. Jelly!!!

            June 25, 2014 at 13:26

            zoinks

      • Sir Rants A Lot Llew. Jelly!!!

        June 25, 2014 at 13:17

        Dude. Too much feels. Y u do dis?

        Reply

        • Hammersteyn

          June 25, 2014 at 13:20

          I just heard the news 🙁

          Reply

          • Sir Rants A Lot Llew. Jelly!!!

            June 25, 2014 at 13:28

            Sad right?

          • Hammersteyn

            June 25, 2014 at 13:34

            Very, really I had no idea :'(

    • Alien Emperor Trevor

      June 25, 2014 at 12:47

      In the mean time, play some Warframe 😉

      Reply

      • Admiral Chief Cyber Commando

        June 25, 2014 at 12:47

        Heh, jammed warframe aaaaaaages ago, good little game.

        Rather jam PS2 tbh

        Reply

    • Liquid Kaz (Umar)

      June 25, 2014 at 13:15

      Whats your Steam handle? will message you the code there?

      Reply

      • Admiral Chief Cyber Commando

        June 25, 2014 at 13:38

        Just go look at the Lazygamer Steam group, I’m sure you can find me there, big yellow star next to my name Admiral Chief

        Reply

        • Sith JJ

          June 25, 2014 at 13:40

          The star is only for show. He didn’t really get a golden star for anything

          Reply

          • Admiral Chief Cyber Commando

            June 25, 2014 at 13:42

            *Hovers mouse over ban button*

          • Sith JJ

            June 25, 2014 at 13:43

            O_O

          • Rince&exhale

            June 25, 2014 at 13:43

            Hey! You leave his SPECIAL star alone!

          • Sith JJ

            June 25, 2014 at 13:44

            Eish

        • Liquid Kaz (Umar)

          June 25, 2014 at 13:47

          Why is there a star? Were you a good boy in class? I’ll send it later 🙂

          Reply

    • Brian Murphy

      June 25, 2014 at 16:23

      From the rumor mill at GAF, apparently Destiny was located in the Steam Database with a March 2015 release date.

      Reply

    • DarthDiggler

      June 25, 2014 at 16:53

      Oh yeah all over bit-torrent.

      Reply

    • Sk3tz0

      June 25, 2014 at 19:16

      It’ll be same day launch as GTA V for PC 😛

      Reply

  2. Admiral Chief Cyber Commando

    June 25, 2014 at 12:35

    I hope it doesn’t fail, I do hope it comes to PC

    Reply

    • Kensei Seraph

      June 25, 2014 at 12:36

      I think if it just barely fails then that might be the push required to get it onto PC.

      Reply

    • Sith JJ

      June 25, 2014 at 12:48

      They’ll have my support when it’s on pc. Until then, not.

      Reply

      • Admiral Chief Cyber Commando

        June 25, 2014 at 12:52

        AND MY AXE

        Reply

    • Viking Of GabeN

      June 25, 2014 at 12:54

      No PC version announced yet… Wouldn’t surprise me if it only comes months after release, when activision realises that only having it consoles is a bad idea….

      Reply

  3. Rince&exhale

    June 25, 2014 at 12:37

    Embrace your Destiny! I will!

    Reply

  4. Hammersteyn

    June 25, 2014 at 12:41

    “Everyone who hates the Call of Duty model should be embracing Destiny”
    Seems legit, and I have preordered because people that comment here rave about the game andmost of them hate COD which makes me value their opinion even more.

    Reply

    • Jonah Cash

      June 25, 2014 at 12:45

      Like ME!!!!!!

      Reply

  5. Ryanza

    June 25, 2014 at 12:42

    Destiny will fail because it’s an online only MMO for consoles. It will do ok but it wont be like a massive success that GTA 5 was.

    I’m waiting for the next Bungie game that will have a single player mode.

    I hope Destiny does well because I like Bungie. I hope Destiny does bad because, fuck Activision.

    Reply

    • Jonah Cash

      June 25, 2014 at 12:45

      At least they are not marketing the game as a single player only game that has DRM???? The game will do better than most of us think it will!! All hail Destiny, the game that says what it is and that will make it work for them!!

      Reply

      • Ryanza

        June 25, 2014 at 13:03

        Bungie has a cult following and Bungie is known for releasing good games. So Destiny should do well. 2 million, maybe 3 million copies sold, the way Destiny is getting promoted. But that might not be enough, aka Tomb Raider and Hitman.

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        • Jonah Cash

          June 25, 2014 at 13:22

          I absolutely hate Halo, the game sucked ass. I tried more than 1 and they all stank for me!! So I am definitely not a cult follower of Bungie, but I might be a cult follower of Destiny after the Alpha!!

          Reply

          • Ryanza

            June 25, 2014 at 13:50

            oh i see, its only about you. so you liked the alpha and now everyone will like destiny even those with no internet. just because you didnt like halo doesnt mean that there are not millions of people who love halo and love bungie for not coping and pasting a new halo game.

            I am a fan of Halo 1. Halo 2 meh, but looked good. Halo 3 meh but looked good and technically a real good game. If I look at Halo 1 then Halo 3 and now Destiny. I can not by mad at Bungie. Halo is meh but the games they create is always an improvement.

            And then on the flip side, Call of Duty 4, 5, 6, 7 ect. Not the same standard at Bungie. Hate Halo all you like but there are reasons why Bungie gets so much love.

  6. oVg FX

    June 25, 2014 at 12:42

    ZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzz….

    Reply

    • Rince&exhale

      June 25, 2014 at 13:18

      Yeah, you said that about online play with Borderlands 2 as well 😛

      Reply

      • Sith JJ

        June 25, 2014 at 13:19

        Oh dear.
        Borderlands 1 and 2 were both great with other people.

        Reply

        • Rince&exhale

          June 25, 2014 at 13:20

          He may have said it, but he spent in the minimum over 200 hours online with mates 🙂

          Reply

          • Sith JJ

            June 25, 2014 at 13:21

            Wow. And I thought I spent a lot of time on the first Borderlands.
            Just bought my gf Borderlands on the Steam Sale. So losing her, probably.

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            June 25, 2014 at 13:29

            +-350 hours each. All I’m saying.

          • Sith JJ

            June 25, 2014 at 13:32

            Wow
            I played the first WAY too much, and only did so before the second came out. Then didn’t see chance to play the second. Was all Borderlands out. BUT. Bought it on Steam yesterday. So goodbye, cruel world.

  7. Jonah Cash

    June 25, 2014 at 12:44

    It is a ton of fun, and I am not even a FPS player!!! They have 1 of the 16 million they need right here!!! Destiny is going to be great, and I will be there!!

    Reply

  8. oVg FX

    June 25, 2014 at 12:45

    What is it? Is it another Borderlands COD FPS clone in space? With no single player.

    Reply

    • Jonah Cash

      June 25, 2014 at 12:47

      Nope, but I didn’t paly Borderlands or COD so can’t say anything on that. But I can promise you that if the Alpha is just made waaaaay bigger then they have a winner on their hands!! The Alpha was brilliant!!

      Reply

      • oVg FX

        June 25, 2014 at 12:47

        Is it like Titanfall?

        Reply

        • Jonah Cash

          June 25, 2014 at 12:49

          Also haven’t played that….. Hahahaha
          All I can promise you is that if you like FPS games, or not!! This game is going to be huge, and 16 million players will be there in less than 2 years, hell probably in less than a year!! That is how good the Alpha was!!

          Reply

          • oVg FX

            June 25, 2014 at 12:50

            Ooops… I just went to Wiki, it says on-line only game. I do not have internet at home and never will.

          • Jonah Cash

            June 25, 2014 at 12:51

            Hahaha…. I work from home so internet is a requirement for me to make money and now it also helps me get my mind of work through games!! I am a bit competitive, that is probably why I like Fifa games. And I will have the same fun with Destiny….

          • oVg FX

            June 25, 2014 at 12:55

            I am the only human in a first world country that will not allow the invasiveness of the on-line matrix into my home. An old school traditionalist who grew up before the answering machine was invented.

            I learnt to enjoy my hobby of gaming even more off-line in order to escape the reality of life and that includes other humans.

            It seems the modern generation are more than happy being wired up 24/7. Thank goodness the PS4 still allows one to play off-line. Probably the last generation to allow that.

          • Jonah Cash

            June 25, 2014 at 12:57

            I play online Fifa, I have never talked to any one of the gamers I played against. But playing Fifa’s off line mode becomes very repetitive, and I don’t have true gamer friends so can’t play with anyone else. I play online because it is more of a challenge, the same will be true for Destiny!!

          • oVg FX

            June 25, 2014 at 13:00

            Perfectly natural to be socially competitive. Its in our DNA.
            But some just like to escape into other worlds like the desolate Shadow of the Colossus. I fear those types of games are not needed anymore hence the staling of The Last Guardian. 🙁

    • Viking Of GabeN

      June 25, 2014 at 12:52

      It’s Planetside 2, but only on console, and with fewer player slots per map.

      Reply

    • Hammersteyn

      June 25, 2014 at 13:01

      No SP and I’m not even that completely sure what it’s all about, but everyone has only had good things to say about Destiny. I’m not stoked about the way the industry is going MP either. But I am open to try new things. Ive had relatively good times with Plaentside 2 so I thought maybe it’s time I tried another game? Plus they invested half a billion dollars into this game. That has to count for something?

      Reply

  9. Alien Emperor Trevor

    June 25, 2014 at 12:46

    While there are many things I’d like to see changed in the gaming industry a big game falling flat on it’s face isn’t really one of them, especially when it’s taking a chance & being different. That’ll just lead to more annual releases & sequel-itis.

    Although I do think when it’s comes to actual innovation in game play you’re not going to see it originating with big publishers. It’ll come from smaller publishers or devs who have more to gain from taking a big chance.

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  10. Liquid Kaz (Umar)

    June 25, 2014 at 12:51

    Destiny does well, the industry follows suit. EA releases their contender as with BF called Fate and the entire gaming community moves from hating CoD to Destiny….

    I have no qualm with Destiny, I hope it does well, I am incredibly skeptical on this whole 10 year plan, but I believe it can do well. I do however hate everything surrounding Destiny. egmr makes a great point that we’re being force fed hype and being told how to feel about the game. Believe the hype right?

    Also “This is the originality you have all been asking for.” This is the furthest thing from originality that one can dream of.As a disclaimer Destiny is much more than my next statement, but it’s a space shooter…And before you jump down my throat, I know it does a lot of new and exciting things, but at the core, it’s a borderlands-esque space shooter

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    • Jonah Cash

      June 25, 2014 at 12:53

      You don’t need Destiny to force feed you hype, just let us players who got in on the Alpha tell you how great the game really is!! If their game is the Alpha but just waaay bigger then they have me sold on it!!
      I am starting to feel like a Destiny rep over here!!!! Hahaha

      Reply

      • Liquid Kaz (Umar)

        June 25, 2014 at 13:13

        LOL Nothing wrong with being hype for a game.

        Reply

        • Alien Emperor Trevor

          June 25, 2014 at 13:15

          WITCHER 3, BABY!

          Reply

          • Sith JJ

            June 25, 2014 at 13:16

            I’m sure if you could have babies on Witcher from unprotected sex you’d have a Rugby team by now.

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            June 25, 2014 at 13:19

            A full 23 man match day squad.

          • Rince&exhale

            June 25, 2014 at 13:20

            With biting bits too? 0-O

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            June 25, 2014 at 13:22

            I don’t understand.

          • Sith JJ

            June 25, 2014 at 13:23

            I think he’s referring to another sport where being bitten is the worst that could happen.

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            June 25, 2014 at 13:27

            So it’s a boxing reference? I don’t watch that either.

          • Sith JJ

            June 25, 2014 at 13:28

            looool

          • Ottokie

            June 25, 2014 at 13:16

            I used to have Hype for games about to launch…the Final Fantasy 13 happened 😛

          • Rince&exhale

            June 25, 2014 at 13:17

            hahahah! Apt 😉

          • AceZero911

            June 25, 2014 at 18:39

            And it happened multiple times…

  11. ActionJackson

    June 25, 2014 at 12:55

    Hey, I would also wax lyrical about a game if they sent me to E3 but this is getting a bit much.

    Reply

    • Jonah Cash

      June 25, 2014 at 12:59

      This game is everywhere, not just on this site… I am not affiliated to LG or Destiny, the only reason I have to wax lyrically about the game is because I played the Alpha for 30+ hours and it was brilliant. I haven’t seen any negative feedback from people who played the Alpha. That alone should tell you everything you need to know right there!!

      Reply

      • ActionJackson

        June 25, 2014 at 13:03

        You’re not Gavin Mannion though, unless Destiny also sent you to E3.

        Reply

        • Gavin Mannion

          June 25, 2014 at 13:04

          Oh and I didn’t go to E3 :)… I stayed in sunny (freezing cold) South Africa.

          Reply

          • Sith JJ

            June 25, 2014 at 13:06

            Boom!

          • oVg FX

            June 25, 2014 at 13:34

            That because you are a person of colour 😛

          • Gavin Mannion

            June 25, 2014 at 13:51

            piss off lilly white is a colour okay

          • Rince&exhale

            June 25, 2014 at 14:03

            You need to see OvG, he makes white look dark.

          • Sith JJ

            June 25, 2014 at 14:03

            I have seen him, I can second this. I had to wear sunglasses when looking at him directly.

          • Admiral Chief Cyber Commando

            June 25, 2014 at 14:04

            O_O

          • Rince&exhale

            June 25, 2014 at 14:12

            And he wasn’t even braaing with us!

          • Admiral Chief Cyber Commando

            June 25, 2014 at 14:14

            Is he the Blitz?

        • Jonah Cash

          June 25, 2014 at 13:19

          Yes they sent me to E3, I am a motor vehicle assessor and they wanted me to go and have a look at their code that determines damage on the vehicles in the game!!!

          Reply

    • Gavin Mannion

      June 25, 2014 at 13:02

      This is the first time I wrote abotu Destiny and at the end I even said I am worred the game will suck.. go take your tinfoil hat elsewhere

      Reply

      • ActionJackson

        June 25, 2014 at 13:08

        What was the point in the article then? I know you didn’t go but your site was sponsored by Destiny to go over, no? What were the T&Cs?

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        • Jonah Cash

          June 25, 2014 at 13:18

          Oh I am glad that you decided to grace us with your online presence today…..
          The point of the article was to show the article on egmr.net was purely just started to create friction and publicity for their site!! And that it is stupid to want Destiny to fail just because Activision is throwing a huge amount of money at it!!
          If you are a true gamer then you would agree(hopefully) that we don’t want big investments in our industry to fail on the very first attempt because that would be bad!!

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          • ActionJackson

            June 25, 2014 at 13:25

            Has egmr ever badmouthed lazygamer? Ironically I didn’t even know about that site until today.

            Investors would expect a return, and the budget should really be divided up into multiple games of the franchise. If you look at the amount of money invested in games, Destiny is at the top but GTA is second on the list and that’s just one of the games.

          • Jonah Cash

            June 25, 2014 at 13:27

            Where were they badmouthed? They ran an article, another site picked up on the article, and had an opinion on it and they wrote their own article with their own opinion of it!!! Do you live under a rock or just don’t read all that much? You might be better suited to using youtube videos for your info…. Just a thought!!

          • ActionJackson

            June 25, 2014 at 13:53

            Why would you want your articles referred to as flamebait?

          • Sir Rants A Lot Llew. Jelly!!!

            June 25, 2014 at 13:55

            Because when you create an article that people are going to debate rather hotly, it’s called flamebaiting.

            Intentionally getting people to flame your article to increase hits.

            The same way that Lagz creates their Friday Flamebait aritcles

          • Sith JJ

            June 25, 2014 at 14:03

            LIES!!! The FFD is because they’re interested in our lives!! Because Lagz cares!!!

          • Rince&exhale

            June 25, 2014 at 14:04

            Yes, they do! As do I 0-O

          • Sith JJ

            June 25, 2014 at 14:15

            o_O

          • Sir Rants A Lot Llew. Jelly!!!

            June 25, 2014 at 15:14

            lol

          • ActionJackson

            June 25, 2014 at 14:04

            Yeah but it doesn’t make the practice any less trashy. It’s unfortunately common place in this blogging industry as advert impressions are more important than articles.

          • Gavin Mannion

            June 25, 2014 at 14:13

            So much bad mouthing but when I answer your questions you go silent?

            Also our FFD articles are for discussion purposes and play on the nature of the word.

            eGamer had a perfectly reasonable opinion, I disagreed. I called it an idiotic opinion but that is just my opinion which I’m sure someone else finds iditic.

            You seem to be trying to find a conspiracy that simply doesn’t exist

          • Admiral Chief Cyber Commando

            June 25, 2014 at 14:14

            *idiotic

            😛

          • Gavin Mannion

            June 25, 2014 at 14:22

            I spelt it right the first time which means the second was a typo… my excuse and I’m sticking to it

          • Admiral Chief Cyber Commando

            June 25, 2014 at 14:31

            XD

          • ActionJackson

            June 25, 2014 at 14:36

            I’m not looking for a conspiracy theory and which question of mine did you answer?

          • Exalted Overlord Geoffrey Tim

            June 25, 2014 at 13:50

            That wasn’t the point of the article even; we’re not out to badmouth Egamer at all. They’re cool dudes. They made some points, Gavin disagreed with those points and wrote a rebuttal. That’s all.

          • Azhar Lorgat

            June 25, 2014 at 14:15

            I’m all for rebuttal articles. But avoid referring to the original article like it’s an opinion collectively shared by all eGamer writers, and using a phrase like “awesome flamebait article” which obviously implies something negative about the writer’s intention. Gavin calls it a “perfectly reasonable opinion” in his comment above, but the article tells a different story.

            Otherwise, fine with pretty much the rest. He’s entitled to his view, as is the author of the original article.

          • Exalted Overlord Geoffrey Tim

            June 25, 2014 at 14:27

            Fair point. Amended.

          • Azhar Lorgat

            June 25, 2014 at 14:38

            Thanks bud, all’s good 🙂 I can relate very well to emotions getting the best of us when writing a heated opinion 😛 Rock on.

          • Caveshen Rajman

            June 25, 2014 at 15:44

            You’re a star. <3

          • Jonah Cash

            June 26, 2014 at 08:31

            But that is the beauty of any article, it is what you take away form it. But lower down I did concede that it is just Gavin’s opinion on an article he read.
            Cheers man

        • Gavin Mannion

          June 25, 2014 at 13:22

          Terms and Conditions for the Destiny money
          1. We will brand every E3 artcle with a special Destiny skin and header image
          2. All E3 header images will have the Destiny marketing on them
          3. One 300×600 banner will be placed in the right side panel
          4. We guarantee a certain number of hits
          5. Destiny background advertising for all artcles for the month of June

          Free additions given to the client
          1. Pre and Post roll for videos
          2. E3 2014 Minisite with Destiny branding

          To clarify, we were sending two people to E3 already. We approached all companies to see if they wanted to buy nto the E3 marketing package which offers fantastic exposure for their brands for an extremely good price.

          Megarom accepted the deal first and we only became aware that they were going to push Destiny a week before the package started.

          Any other questions feel free to ask, we are beyond reproach when it comes to editorial independance.

          Did you read the article?

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          • oVg FX

            June 25, 2014 at 13:33

            No life time supply of Doritos? That sucks 🙁 😛

          • Anon A Mouse

            June 25, 2014 at 13:35

            Also no punishing the D for the month of June in any way of form. That package could have been so much better.

    • Sir Rants A Lot Llew. Jelly!!!

      June 25, 2014 at 13:15

      “As a side note, I’m very worried Destiny won’t be fun, I haven’t had any hands on with the game yet so I’m hoping I’m wrong. I just have a sinking feeling in the pit of my stomach that it will be too intricate for casual gamers to pick up and enjoy.”

      If he was sucking up to Activision then he’s going about it the wrong way by saying he thinks it is going to be boring don’t you think?

      You’re jumping to conclusions here.

      Reply

  12. Bianca

    June 25, 2014 at 13:01

    The one downfall of investing so much money into a game is there is always a chance of it failing miserably. Like the Titanic, they thought that their money made something unsinkable and a lot of people got on board, but they went down with it.
    I’m seriously hoping that Destiny doesn’t get a big ass Ice Berg in their path, it looks fecking fun.

    Reply

    • Weanerdog

      June 25, 2014 at 14:48

      Pretty sure the Titanic was insured. Bet their premiums went up on the other ships though. Also think the Titanic had two sister ships and the hype around it was actually only company PR that the world grasped onto after the ship sunk, but I may be just talking out of me arse. Also I believe that both the sister ships also sank.

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      • Bianca

        June 25, 2014 at 19:37

        So peple still died even though you might have talked out of your arse?
        THIS IS WHY WE CANT HAVE ICE THINGS.

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        • Weanerdog

          June 25, 2014 at 20:43

          Sorry my point got lost somewhere, doing too much at once.

          The fact that people died created the hype not the other way round. The people dying was a great tragedy but they didn’t die because of the hype of the unsinkable ship, those people needed to get to america because of the economic situation in Europe and others were tourists that were going anyway. They were not just going because here was a nice new ship.

          The reference to the insurance was just to point out that Activision does not have that luxury and if this fails they could be in the doo – doo. Although I speculate that the investment amount is probably over the life time of the game (10 years) and not all up front.

          Reply

          • Bianca

            June 25, 2014 at 22:51

            You realize that the previous comment was just a joke?
            However, I do get your point, but I simply used the Titanic as an example of ‘Yes, things look promising and bright and fancy, but there can be numerous amount of things that can still go wrong’.
            The way people only looked at the “unsinkable” PR stunt is the same way we handle it when games disappointed us. Like with any COD for example, we get excited and squee about how awesome it looks, but when it’s Release Day then there are so many people that chuck their toys because it’s not what they were promised.
            If they fail, and I hope to Cthulu that they don’t, then it’s their ice berg. They might not be able to save themselves from that.

          • Weanerdog

            June 26, 2014 at 11:21

            No sorry didn’t see the Joke, I have no sense of humour. It is quite sad actually.

  13. Anon A Mouse

    June 25, 2014 at 13:07

    No SP = No love. Simple as that. I do hope it doesn’t fail though as Sony has very high hopes for profits from this game on their console.

    Reply

    • Sith JJ

      June 25, 2014 at 13:08

      What!?
      No SP?
      Yes. No love from here either.

      Reply

    • Rince&exhale

      June 25, 2014 at 13:19

      It has SP, but you still have to be online.

      Reply

      • oVg FX

        June 25, 2014 at 13:25

        DRM in other words. The 24hour check in seems so old.

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        • Sith JJ

          June 25, 2014 at 13:25

          Like a damn curfew

          Reply

        • Rince&exhale

          June 25, 2014 at 13:27

          It’s around 180 days old. It’s basically an MMO, they are saying it isn’t, but they are also not hiding you have to be online. If you don’t like it, then one doesn’t have to buy it.

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          • oVg FX

            June 25, 2014 at 13:28

            They will, in their troves paving the way for on-line only consoles.

          • Rince&exhale

            June 25, 2014 at 13:29

            Why can’t there be both?

          • oVg FX

            June 25, 2014 at 13:29

            “Cant go on-line? Then play the 360” 😛
            Thats how confident they are.

          • Rince&exhale

            June 25, 2014 at 13:33

            You mean PCs?

          • Sith JJ

            June 25, 2014 at 13:34

            Hey hey hey.

          • Rince&exhale

            June 25, 2014 at 13:35

            Not hey, Uplay! Origin!

          • Sith JJ

            June 25, 2014 at 13:35

            Both of which I do not have on my PC.
            *puffs out chest proudly*

          • oVg FX

            June 25, 2014 at 13:36

            I can see the Steam coming out of his ears as he activates the latest copy of Watch Dogs jumping frogs.

          • Rince&exhale

            June 25, 2014 at 13:37

            BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA!

          • Sith JJ

            June 25, 2014 at 13:37

            Uplay is the reason I don’t buy games like Watch Dogs. If they want to be stupid about it they can go look for their money elsewhere.

          • oVg FX

            June 25, 2014 at 13:37

            Still the biggest selling Ubisoft game of all time so expect more U-Play 😛

          • Rince&exhale

            June 25, 2014 at 13:38

            Must be because it was available to the PC market day 1? Too soon? 0-O

          • oVg FX

            June 25, 2014 at 13:39

            Far too soon, lets delay it.

          • Sith JJ

            June 25, 2014 at 13:39

            I’m sure you’re just all hyped up about Star Citizen though 🙂

          • Rince&exhale

            June 25, 2014 at 13:41

            What’s that? Oh, that game that will be out when I’m married? Teheheheh

          • Sith JJ

            June 25, 2014 at 13:41

            I don’t think marrying pillows is legal here yet. 😉

          • Rince&exhale

            June 25, 2014 at 13:42

            Don’t judge me!

          • Sith JJ

            June 25, 2014 at 13:42

            LOL!

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            June 25, 2014 at 13:45

            You just dashed his dreams of pillowgamy.

          • Sith JJ

            June 25, 2014 at 13:46

            Ha!

          • Sith JJ

            June 25, 2014 at 13:39

            Ubisoft can keep their games, honestly. I’m EA free for over a year now.
            The great indies on Steam are much better than those games anyway.
            And it’s *U(can’t)Play 😉

    • oVg FX

      June 25, 2014 at 13:26

      The 8th generation will be the death of the single player game. TOOOOO much money to be made via social competitive games.

      Reply

      • Sith JJ

        June 25, 2014 at 13:27

        TESO is almost the death of the Elder Scrolls Universe. I hope you’re wrong.
        Luckily we have indies bringing out brilliant SP games.

        Reply

  14. Rince&exhale

    June 25, 2014 at 13:31

    I for one and flipping looking forward to this game. I’m going to get my Nana on and run around screaming bloody murder!

    Reply

    • Alien Emperor Trevor

      June 25, 2014 at 13:46

      Get your nana on what exactly? O_o

      Reply

  15. Sageville

    June 25, 2014 at 13:52

    Question to those in the know: I heard you get Ships in the game, where do they fit in?

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    • Exalted Overlord Geoffrey Tim

      June 25, 2014 at 13:55

      You can spawn them at a whim using your Ghost Ai, and traverse the landscape like champions on speeders.

      Reply

      • Admiral Chief Cyber Commando

        June 25, 2014 at 13:57

        Can they be destroyed or do they have limitations?

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    • Tauriq Moosa

      June 25, 2014 at 14:55

      You get your inter-planetary ship, which as far as we know, you never control. Then you get the Shrike which is what happens when dreams become digital reality – traversing the large gameplay environments. Different models but not, as far as I know, customisable.

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  16. kevin

    June 25, 2014 at 13:56

    Hey the individual is entitled to wish , hope for whatever he wants . Beside I think he’s disdain is more at Activision and bungie . I say wish away .

    Reply

  17. Michael

    June 25, 2014 at 14:05

    “…that it will be too intricate for casual gamers to pick up and enjoy” one can only dream

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  18. Admiral Chief Cyber Commando

    June 25, 2014 at 14:34

    Good grief some of the comments on that article…..O_O

    Makes the community here look like a bunch of saints

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  19. Caveshen Rajman

    June 25, 2014 at 14:57

    Hmm, comment didn’t post… Copy-paste initiate!

    So we’re clear on this: I do not harbour any sort of grudge against
    Destiny, nor Bungie. I would very much like to see it do well. However,
    if it fails then it sends a very strong message to the industry that
    it’s time to wake up and stop spending all this money. I really, really,
    REALLY wanted to spend a few thousand words explaining that in the
    original article. I figured it would detract from the point, which is
    that the gaming industry is spending too much money too quickly. I
    understand fully that Activision would not undertake a venture such as
    this without some firm forecasts, but I also understand that throwing
    money at a game is not necessarily going to make it successful;
    regardless of how many years that money-throwing is spread across.
    Calling for some rational thought is not surely internet trolling, is
    it?

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  20. William Francis

    June 25, 2014 at 15:39

    The amount of flame the author is getting on the original article is amazing. I’m pretty sure he’s crying in a corner somewhere.

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    • Caveshen Rajman

      June 25, 2014 at 15:43

      The day I let the internet get to me… 😛

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      • William Francis

        June 25, 2014 at 15:51

        Eish guy you still around! just finished going through the comments on your article, sweet Jesus you got a riot on your hands! Although I too agree with the masses, hoping a game will fail to “send a message” is a bit distasteful. Considering the $500 mill is also over a 10 year period, it’s not that bad at all really.

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  21. Anon_Driver

    June 25, 2014 at 17:59

    Only one issue here: In 1998 Half-Life was released, to this day I can whip out that same disc, 16 years later and play it. In 1995 Doom for Win95 was released and still works nearly 2 decades later.

    10 years from now, can I play Destiny?

    We are paying more and more for less and less. :

    I’m sure it will be great, it just sucks that if you miss the train, you can’t try it out years from now. And that really is a bummer.

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  22. NoNeedToArgue

    June 25, 2014 at 18:39

    played the alpha extensively, have no worries, the game is FUN

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  23. Guest

    June 25, 2014 at 19:00

    They should just release it on the PC as well. The new consoles are crap and it being multiplayer on their servers only will stop piracy dead in its tracks anyway.

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  24. HisDivineOrder

    June 25, 2014 at 19:54

    Hm. I say let Destiny fail because yet again Bungie is ignoring the PC gamers out there that would gobble this genre up like cotton candy all in the interests of making 360 and PS3 versions of the game that’s going to noticeably drag down what aspirations the game reaches for.

    If you say, “Making a PC version don’t have nuffin to do wif last gen console ports!” I say to you that on multiple occasions when asked about a PC version, they’ve said, “We’re working on versions for four consoles right now and we’re focused on that” with an implied, “We only have so many resources!” Which is a joke given they had half a billion dollars to work with? And Kotick’s many horrible things, but he’s a portaholic. He loves porting games to every platform he can, including PC. Even when other companies were calling PC a piracy magnet (ie., Ubisoft), Activision could at least be relied upon to make a PC port (even if it sucked).

    So if it’s not Activision keeping out the PC port, then who is it? Well, now we have Bungie. Defectors from Mac (and PC) post-Halo, they had Gearbox make Halo for PC way, way delayed and then Microsoft ported Halo 2 for them (poorly) to run on Vista to sell that bloated OS.

    At no point since Halo has Bungie ever shown regard for PC gamers. This is not a company that deserves money.

    So yeah. Let it tank and serve as a reminder to all developers/publishers that if you skip the PC port, you are doomed to fail. Best to forget or delay them last gen ports than forego the PC port.

    Lest you be… Destiny’ed.

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  25. Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

    June 26, 2014 at 09:46

    I saw the link to the egmr article on N4G and decided “Fuck em’ that’s clickbait”. I’m excited to get Destiny, I loved the alpha and hopefully I’ll be in the beta as well.

    Reply

  26. Towerwatch

    June 26, 2014 at 21:39

    Play the alpha on ps4, it’s was very fun I was worried before but no longer

    Reply

  27. Relf

    September 7, 2014 at 23:16

    Ist doch nur aus diversen Games zusammengeklaut und was für Casual Gamer…

    Reply

  28. Bonez

    September 16, 2014 at 18:00

    Bungie means that is another Gameplay /Feeling when I reach Stage 20. I’m at Stage 26 now, and it’s still like the Beginning. 🙁 It’s nice, of course..but not a Revolution. I give it 6,5 / 10

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  29. Marc

    October 18, 2014 at 07:46

    ..and now…Destiny is a BIG Fail. *lol* You know it, I know it…and a lot of Gamers know it too. ^^

    Reply

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