I think we all get it by now – representation of women in gaming is important. No, not because it’s bowing to pressure to placate one group or another, but because it actually represents the population of humans and gamers on this planet. Also, by including people from diverse backgrounds, we can broaden our horizons and see things from various perspectives. Plus, it undoes some of the awful stereotyping in the gaming industry – that it’s all a white male dominated industry. But of course, someone messed up in this regard, again.
Earlier this week, Geoff told you about the Game Award nominations. Most of the nominees seem pretty solid, although we were all a bit surprised at the exclusion of Tomb Raider from the list of Game of the Year nominees. Still, it’s hard to argue with the titles on the list and The Game Awards is sort of the most official award show that you can get each year, with the exception of ours, of course. It makes sense that they selected the titles that they did – they worked with a jury of 32 international media to select and assess the games. But that’s where things get a bit hairier than Darryn’s toes.
The list of 32 jurors was announced, and it became immediately clear that something was a bit amiss – there was only one female juror. After a bit of twitter hullaballoo, that number has now doubled. Yes, there are now two female jurors, out of 32, excluding the eSports ones, which brings the sausage tally higher. I have to wonder how the jurors were selected. Clearly they were drawn from each publication, but could the publication choose who would represent them, or did it just default to whomever serves as managing editor?
I’m sure these 32 jurors will do a fine job and the games that they select as winners will be in line with the games that would have won if more women had been in the jury pool. However, it is a bit disconcerting on two levels. First of all, despite all the calls for more female representation in the past couple years, it’s a bit surprising that such a high profile award show would go forward without at least considering the composition of its panel. Secondly, what does it say about the levels of representation at these various international publications if only two of them were able to put forward women as their jurors? While plenty of sites and magazines have written about the issues of women and people of colour (of which there are apparently four on the panel) in gaming, it seems that the issues are even more embedded than previously imagined.
Are these jurors qualified? I’m sure they are. I’m not advocating that women are included on a panel simply because of their gender, but rather to better represent the population of gamers. It’s just disappointing that even after all the attention highlighting the issue, a high profile award show could completely overlook the fact that their jurors are predominantly white male. I know we’re all tired of talking about it, but until these types of things stop happening, apparently we need to keep reminding the world that it’s an important topic.
Last Updated: November 19, 2015
Jonah Cash
November 19, 2015 at 10:52
Just a few questions: How many lady janitors are there, are they represented? How many woman work in the road construction section who are in the sun the whole day? How many woman butchers are there? How many woman meter readers are there? How many woman mail carriers are there?
Why do articles around woman representation only ever discuss the “nice” jobs? Why not go after the crap jobs as well? (And I understand this is a gaming site and only does gaming news, but I am asking in general)
I agree that there should be better representation of woman in gaming, and black people in rugby. But the first and by far the most important criteria should always be competency to do the job or to play at the highest level. I have not seen one article about representation of blacks in chess, jukskei, tennis, swimming etc.
Or am I missing some point again?
miaau
November 19, 2015 at 11:12
No, no not missing it at all. I quote from sir Frik above “Equality is not about having the same number of both sexes on the panel, it’s about giving both sexes a fair chance to prove that they deserve to be on the panel.”
Her Highness the Hipster
November 19, 2015 at 11:35
would be nice to see what all the jurors did to deserve being on the panel, regardless of gender/race
miaau
November 19, 2015 at 12:18
Criteria of juror placement is important, but it probably, in reality, boils down to money in some form. Sponsorships and stuff
Darren Peach
November 19, 2015 at 13:53
Her Highness the Hipster…….. Does that nickname not serve to place yourself on a pedestal above others whom by virtue of your title are beneath you ? While in reality we all know it is probably a innocent nickname that serves to show a facet of ones personality in jest.
The Sten
November 19, 2015 at 11:50
How do we know they didnt give a fair chance to Males and Females? The article just assumes they didnt…
miaau
November 19, 2015 at 12:17
point
Hammersteyn
November 19, 2015 at 11:29
People see black and white, never grey
Grand Admiral Chief SpaceNinja
November 19, 2015 at 11:32
Only grey I see is on your SilverButt
Hammersteyn
November 19, 2015 at 11:34
50 shades?
*Twerks
Grand Admiral Chief SpaceNinja
November 19, 2015 at 11:36
Don’t strain yourself, we all know you have low AGI
Hammersteyn
November 19, 2015 at 11:49
Twerking with low AGI
http://i.memeful.com/media/post/odgOY6d_700wa_0.gif
BakedBagel
November 19, 2015 at 11:49
I never knew i could twerk by moving my chest in and out.
Ive been doing it wrong
RinceThis
November 19, 2015 at 11:58
kill it with fire! #views do not represent Lazygamer…
oVg
November 19, 2015 at 12:06
BWAHAHAHA
Greylingad[CNFRMD]
November 19, 2015 at 12:07
This is like rattling a bag of bones….
Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)
November 19, 2015 at 12:38
Oh man, I just want to give her a bagel… or maybe some mac and cheese. :/
Hammersteyn
November 19, 2015 at 10:55
Tomb Raider will be nominated next year. After the proper versions are released 😛
Greylingad[CNFRMD]
November 19, 2015 at 11:02
I’ll take the route of all the GTA V naysayers, I won’t play a game that’s a year old by the time it releases for my platform….
Dutch Matrix
November 19, 2015 at 11:10
Oh help me stay calm, oh mighty Alien Emperor Trevor!!!
Greylingad[CNFRMD]
November 19, 2015 at 11:18
Hehehehe, just as a disclaimer,I bought GTAV on PS3 and PC, I enjoyed both versions of the game, even though the PC version was almost two years late… I will not buy an XBone or 360 just to play tomb raider now…
Alien Emperor Trevor
November 19, 2015 at 11:22
I’m confused. Should I be upset with my name being taken in vain, or should I just be pleased someone acknowledges me as their god. Hmm.
Captain JJ the Goo
November 19, 2015 at 11:26
I will buy GTA V one day. I really will. But only once the newer and better games are actually more expensive than it, and not cheaper.
Greylingad[CNFRMD]
November 19, 2015 at 11:28
You raise a perfectly valid point!, at R800 for the PC version, almost 8 months after release….
Captain JJ the Goo
November 19, 2015 at 11:28
It’s been over 2 years since the first release. I count that. It’s an old game for R800.
BakedBagel
November 19, 2015 at 11:35
Im sorry if this triggered anyone. But i need to express my views
Captain JJ the Goo
November 19, 2015 at 11:44
I agree. 17 September is my birthday, so it bothers me a lot that it wasn’t released on pc on that day.
Grand Admiral Chief SpaceNinja
November 19, 2015 at 11:48
[makes notes for future trolling]
Captain JJ the Goo
November 19, 2015 at 11:52
Well, I got to play Witcher this year, so everything else doesn’t really matter much then 😀
BakedBagel
November 19, 2015 at 11:30
You know. i didnt mind the $60 for GTAV a couple months ago, but looking at it in Rands i just sit there and laugh. R800. straight. For a game that originally came out in September 17, 2013
2 years ago fam. 2 years. Na Cockstar suck my noodle.
Hammersteyn
November 19, 2015 at 11:28
If just for the SP which is terrific. Online heists was a brilliant addition
Captain JJ the Goo
November 19, 2015 at 11:29
But R800. Seriously. I bought Fallout 4 on RELEASE for R400. Rockstar is insane.
Hammersteyn
November 19, 2015 at 11:29
Insanely good.
Hammersteyn
November 19, 2015 at 11:29
You’ll get your money’s worth
Captain JJ the Goo
November 19, 2015 at 11:30
I doubt it. Because no one I know is willing to buy it for R800, so I’ll be playing alone.
Hammersteyn
November 19, 2015 at 11:32
Buy PS4. We are many XD XD XD
*Crying inside
Captain JJ the Goo
November 19, 2015 at 11:43
Haha. Well that does sound much cheaper. 😀
Greylingad[CNFRMD]
November 19, 2015 at 12:05
I…I’ll join you… There is at least one, bar the cheaters all around it…
Captain JJ the Goo
November 19, 2015 at 12:13
Eish. Can’t you just start a private server on GTA V? I’ve always wondered about that.
Ir0nseraph
November 19, 2015 at 12:16
Yes you can, only invite friends that’s how we did it.
Doing it that way I always knew Hammer would park my car at the correct spot in pieces 🙂
Captain JJ the Goo
November 19, 2015 at 12:17
The moment Rockstar makes the game price reasonable on Steam I know my friends will all get it. But as it’s at R800 now, even with 50% off (which Rockstar won’t do) it’s still just as expensive as a new game.
Ir0nseraph
November 19, 2015 at 12:19
That is true , but I took the plunge on the remaster as i never played the original, and i am happy I did, our heists crew allowed for such fun laughs which made the purchase price cheap in the end.
Captain JJ the Goo
November 19, 2015 at 12:22
I’ll get there. Eventually. I know I will 😀
Hammersteyn
November 19, 2015 at 12:55
hahahaha
Ir0nseraph
November 19, 2015 at 11:05
It is a shame sony has to wait, it is a really good game and was hard done not getting nominated.
Hammersteyn
November 19, 2015 at 11:10
I wouldn’t know
Ir0nseraph
November 19, 2015 at 11:49
Your hands still hurt from using the controller at rage 😛
Hammersteyn
November 19, 2015 at 12:11
My wrist, Doctor says I’ll never be able to play the piano again, nor the male organ
Ir0nseraph
November 19, 2015 at 12:12
XD as long as you can still hold a beer in your hand you will survive.
oVg
November 19, 2015 at 11:12
bwahahaha
RinceThis
November 19, 2015 at 11:58
HAHAHAHAAH
Greylingad[CNFRMD]
November 19, 2015 at 11:00
The problem with any dominated market is that it takes long to change, imagine, if you will, a worm moved past a window pane, for a minute, picture yourself as minute, standing next to said window, staring at one point, as the worm is moving past the window, you see it’s body moving up and down, with small increments going from right to left, in this moment you notice a single spot, call it yellow for now, that spot slowly increases and spreads the further you get to it’s end, it doesn’t mean that there is only a small amount of yellow on said worm, it just takes very long for the yellow to be whole fully represented on the worm…Stepping back from the window then allows for the observation of the complete form, showing homogeneous colour changes across the whole worm, yet from the start/head, it only looks like a singular green worm, having to fully comprehend the beauty of it, means taking the time for the change to apply… Unfortunately the “worm” of representation is not something that changes like the colour of a chameleon, which is instant, it is something that needs to grow accordingly as the gaps are being created and addressed….
At least now, we’ve seen the first yellow spot….
oVg
November 19, 2015 at 11:56
😛
https://media.giphy.com/media/8pn1kXad5fHO0/giphy.gif
Frik van der Hewerskink
November 19, 2015 at 11:03
Equality is not about having the same number of both sexes on the panel, it’s about giving both sexes a fair chance to prove that they deserve to be on the panel. there is no way to establish how these jurors were selected. Thus, this just feels like a feminazi topic to be honest.
I am honestly a supporter of equality, but like i mentioned above; giving all sexes a fair chance to prove they deserve what they are getting. if 32 woman proved that they deserved a spot i would feel no different than I feel right now.
Her Highness the Hipster
November 19, 2015 at 11:34
agree that all jurors should be qualified, but without knowing selection process sort of hard to know how qualified the men are, either. sad that the assumption is that they earned their spots while women wouldn’t…
oVg
November 19, 2015 at 11:49
In my mind non of them are qualified. These game of the year awards are so diluted and unofficial. Even the Oscars is biased as fuck based on how much money each pays into the guild. Its all bollocks 😛
BakedBagel
November 19, 2015 at 11:51
oVg hit the nail on the head. So damn hard.
Honestly the worst are those Indy Awards where really good indy games get the boot, and the friends of those judges get the awards. Its all a show. Its entertainment. nothing more nothing less.
oVg
November 19, 2015 at 11:52
hear hear.
RinceThis
November 19, 2015 at 11:59
agreed
oVg
November 19, 2015 at 12:08
Leonardo DiCaprio has still not payed his bar tab at the guild 😛
Hammersteyn
November 19, 2015 at 12:45
He’ll need to leave a bag of gold though
oVg
November 19, 2015 at 12:47
so they can melt it into an Oscar 😛
Hammersteyn
November 19, 2015 at 12:50
Hahahaha winna!
oVg
November 19, 2015 at 11:08
My feminist GOTY goes to Assassins Creed Syndicate. You get to shoot women in the face. Hows that for equal rights.
10 years ago it was about killing muslims in Assassins Creed, now its about women. 10 years from now… who knows.
oVg
November 19, 2015 at 11:09
2007
oVg
November 19, 2015 at 11:09
2015
Captain JJ the Goo
November 19, 2015 at 12:16
How about just “designed by people” because, you know accepting all that means that you see them all as normal people. This here is like telling the world how you donated money anonymously.
oVg
November 19, 2015 at 12:18
Jade Raymond was the first to invent the disclaimer at the start of a videogame.
I loved her game not because she is female but because she is talented and has vision. The shit that she went through back in 2007…
Captain JJ the Goo
November 19, 2015 at 12:21
Now that’s fine, and I appreciate it.
I just don’t want people to make a show of using equal rights.
Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)
November 19, 2015 at 12:41
2034 Assassin’s Creed – Inspired by revised historical events. This politically-correct narrative was designed, developed and produced by the Ministry of Truth.
Listen and Believe!
Alien Emperor Trevor
November 19, 2015 at 11:12
I love how you retcon stories to fit your theories. 😀
oVg
November 19, 2015 at 11:14
Aspergers just see things as they are. This feminazi shit goes right over my head because I view humans as humans not creed and colour.
WitWolfy
November 19, 2015 at 11:19
Aaggg please… In Until Dawn they sexualize these girls to no end (not that im complaining) and their deaths can be graphic.. very graphic like decapitations, burning to death ect ect ect!
Dont wanna post spoilers though…
oVg
November 19, 2015 at 11:20
But, that was the point. They made it 80s teen slash horror on purpose. Somebody always got into their undies before being slashed to death.
Dutch Matrix
November 19, 2015 at 11:55
Sweet Lords! that is the recipe for slasher movies for years now! Hell, I only hit puberty good and solid when I saw Friday the 13th VII.
oVg
November 19, 2015 at 12:01
I did notice that those oldschool slasher films never had sex or nudity. Just lots of gore. Kind of shows how indoctrinated modern American culture is today.
They are all going nuts over the nude mods in Fallout 4 but its fine to pop the head off of a human lol.
Dutch Matrix
November 19, 2015 at 12:07
Yeah no. Part of why I watched Friday the 13th flicks was for the brief nudity you would see. Not all of them had it, though. “No Ma! Not watching it for the boobs, but the horror of Jason’s Face!”
I have no problem with Nude mods, to be honest. Only issue I have with them is they seem ready three days before the game’s launch!
oVg
November 19, 2015 at 12:10
lol the Virgina mod is already out 😛
40 Insane Frogs
November 19, 2015 at 12:18
You mean in 10 years we might be killing non-normative transexual transhumans like John Flynn Brianna Wu or pedophiles like Nicholas Sarah Nyberg? Now that would be progress!
oVg
November 19, 2015 at 12:23
Hopefully games would have grown up by then and we will not have the urge to kill anything… 😛
Naaaa fuck it. KILL KILL KILL KILL
Captain JJ the Goo
November 19, 2015 at 12:24
This wisdom, I find it speaks to me deeply. 😉
Hammersteyn
November 19, 2015 at 12:44
Wise banana is wise. That insane frog guy not so much 😛
Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)
November 19, 2015 at 12:46
The Frog guy is a putz! He doesn’t have the fire in his belly. The fire that comes from being banana!
Hammersteyn
November 19, 2015 at 12:47
XD XD XD XD
Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)
November 19, 2015 at 12:29
Such pleasant mangina classics like:
“Call of Cooking Duty!”
“Feelings Rising”
and the game of the year for 2039
“Stop triggering me you white cis-normative shitlord”
oVg
November 19, 2015 at 12:30
You know it, and sex will be banned for its primitive mannerisms 😛
Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)
November 19, 2015 at 12:31
Banned!
Because merely touching a woman is rape.
In the future, young SJWs aren’t born, they emerge full-assholes out the asshole of Taurig Moosa.
oVg
November 19, 2015 at 12:33
Males will be in stasis, and thawed out to donate some sperm, then back to the fridge 😛
Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)
November 19, 2015 at 12:35
Who needs sperm when you can clone them? In fact, Warframe talks about how the grineer arose, through cloning…
I believe Warframe is our future!
oVg
November 19, 2015 at 12:39
Good point 😛
Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)
November 19, 2015 at 12:43
Also sperm can be used for other things, like distilled into a drink called “Male Tears”.
Why use men for sex when you can farm them for sustenance?… It will be the soylent green of the 21st century!
oVg
November 19, 2015 at 12:33
lol
Hammersteyn
November 19, 2015 at 12:43
What if a women touches me….. nah will never happen
Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)
November 19, 2015 at 12:45
lol!!
Captain JJ the Goo
November 19, 2015 at 12:46
Just don’t pull away if she tries to, then you’re the asshole.
Hammersteyn
November 19, 2015 at 12:47
I’m not a piece of meat. Oh wait….
oVg
November 19, 2015 at 12:50
she will be pregnant from your powdered spores 😛
Hammersteyn
November 19, 2015 at 12:53
I don’t use my spores anymore, bad things happen
https://media.giphy.com/media/PXVQF286eD2gM/giphy.gif
oVg
November 19, 2015 at 12:54
If women were allowed to be male for 1 day 😛
http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/a0Lb2mn_460sv.mp4
Hammersteyn
November 19, 2015 at 12:54
heheheheeeeeeeeeeeee
Captain JJ the Goo
November 19, 2015 at 12:54
Well, I definitely don’t see modeling in his future.
Hammersteyn
November 19, 2015 at 12:55
Mad Max movies?
Captain JJ the Goo
November 19, 2015 at 12:58
Hmm. There’s hope after all.
Captain JJ the Goo
November 19, 2015 at 12:31
Don’t forget about “Lecturer’s Creed”
Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)
November 19, 2015 at 12:33
with the tagline “Listen and believe, shitlord”
Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)
November 19, 2015 at 12:24
Stop deadnaming brah or Brianna will climb through your tv and eat your soul!
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/hpb2-ZOzc_o/maxresdefault.jpg
*Brianna Wu climbing through the tv to eat some souls…*
oVg
November 19, 2015 at 12:27
Oh shit!!! It just got chilly all of a sudden.
Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)
November 19, 2015 at 12:29
That’s because the ghoulish one has cast a beady eye upon us.
Hi Brianna!
BakedBagel
November 19, 2015 at 11:24
Has it not occurred to you that all those sites that pushed for woman in gaming WHERE DOING IT PURELY FOR CLICKS. If they REALLY cared about it, they would have sent a female POC. But nono all you get is men.
How much longer are people going to be fooled by clickbait?, how much longer are people going to be upset that the click-bait articles dont actually express the views of the publication?
Captain JJ the Goo
November 19, 2015 at 11:25
Tomb Raider being a filthy timed exclusive can stay off the list forever for all I care.
oVg
November 19, 2015 at 12:03
I wonder if it will win in the exclusive category… or will HALO and FORZA steal the show?
Captain JJ the Goo
November 19, 2015 at 12:11
Forza I say.
oVg
November 19, 2015 at 12:12
GOOD
Grand Admiral Chief SpaceNinja
November 19, 2015 at 11:38
“hairier than Darryn’s toes”
……aaaaaand there goes my appetite
Gavin Mannion
November 19, 2015 at 11:57
I’d guess that woman make up around 8-15% of the gaming media makeup so 2 our of 32 isn’t that far off.
Especially if we exclude all the ladies who are only in it to be the pretty face on a screen or to do nothing but whine about representation.
oVg
November 19, 2015 at 12:11
Women make up more than men in the Music industry but only 1 is allowed on the talent show panel 😛
RUNS
Captain JJ the Goo
November 19, 2015 at 12:12
Though, I think there are more male producers in music. Just you know…throwing a spanner in the works here.
oVg
November 19, 2015 at 12:13
tee hee hee, thats another rabbit HOLE 😛
Dutch Matrix
November 19, 2015 at 12:12
If I apologize on behalf of all white males for everything that has happened on this planet that has gone wrong, can we please drop the ‘white male’ is evil vibe from gaming articles?
Just asking.
miaau
November 19, 2015 at 12:20
No, unfortunately not.
Whether this is a real or incorrectly perceived injustice, I do not see it dying down any-time soon.
The real question for me is the relevance in the here and now. Where your focus should be.
oVg
November 19, 2015 at 12:28
lol your avatar. White dude armed to the teeth 😛
Captain JJ the Goo
November 19, 2015 at 12:31
Don’t forget that he’s trying to stop an alien who is invading his lands.
oVg
November 19, 2015 at 12:59
lol
Dutch Matrix
November 19, 2015 at 14:36
lol my ass. I was fighting for survival against a powerful enemy that wanted to use my skull to wipe the excrement from his arse.
Darren Peach
November 19, 2015 at 12:33
What a bunch of waffle. While there seems to be a lack of female representation, I doubt the inclusion or exclusion has anything to do with progress but more to do with appeasing a movement that has seriously damaged the position or image of the so called white male gamer. The biggest flaw in this movement against the mainstream gaming community is the attack of a certain demographic seems to be tolerated but if that position were reversed we would be called racists, bigots, sexist and whatever else serves to undermine the validity of our existence. Growing up in South Africa has taught me tolerance and acceptance but it has cost me a measure of self esteem because I am always reminded that I am inherently evil by mainstream politics. As a 38 year old man with two sisters and extensive experience in the professional world, I see far more female leaders who have served to be role-models and sources of inspiration. Every time I read a article on this debate I feel increasingly marginalised because it weighs on my conscious for no good reason. But, As a conviction, I will always remain doubtful of the intentions of people who openly criticise but can’t accept a measure of it from the people they seem to make examples of.
Captain JJ the Goo
November 19, 2015 at 12:36
I work in a professional environment and I am one of three men between over twenty women. I get this.
Hammersteyn
November 19, 2015 at 12:42
Wouldn’t mind a waffle with syrup and cream right now
Ir0nseraph
November 19, 2015 at 12:44
No ice cream
Captain JJ the Goo
November 19, 2015 at 12:45
Must have Ice Cream. Cream is for old people.
Ir0nseraph
November 19, 2015 at 12:45
^This
XD
Hammersteyn
November 19, 2015 at 12:46
OLD PEOPLE???
https://45.media.tumblr.com/4431f42d99923bb3054906ca5a8d7159/tumblr_mwl3fhs8331sb2ja1o1_500.gif
Captain JJ the Goo
November 19, 2015 at 12:47
LOOOOL!
Captain JJ the Goo
November 19, 2015 at 12:47
I’m having a terrible day, this just made me laugh. 😀
Hammersteyn
November 19, 2015 at 12:47
XD
Hammersteyn
November 19, 2015 at 12:47
Had one yesterday
Captain JJ the Goo
November 19, 2015 at 12:48
Well, they’re renovating the outside of our building and the builders spilled paint over my car. White paint. Over my red car.
No one said anything, so it’s had time to dry in the sun.
Ir0nseraph
November 19, 2015 at 12:49
O wow , that is bullshit, you will be forgiven if you drive over the culprit.
Hammersteyn
November 19, 2015 at 12:50
WTF!!! Drop some weights from your office on their van
Ir0nseraph
November 19, 2015 at 12:51
If you were an animal you would be an elephant, you never forgot do you 🙂
Captain JJ the Goo
November 19, 2015 at 12:52
Hehe. Sounds like they’re willing to pay to have it fixed. But you know how it is. Once a car has needed a “fix” it never feels the same again.
Hammersteyn
November 19, 2015 at 12:53
Agreed
Ir0nseraph
November 19, 2015 at 12:48
xDxD thanks hammer
Darren Peach
November 19, 2015 at 12:50
38 aint that old pal. Old enough to have a measure of wisdom but young enough to still play video games. I will probably say the same thing when I am 90 🙂
Hammersteyn
November 19, 2015 at 12:53
hahaha ditto
Darren Peach
November 19, 2015 at 12:58
Did you mean ditto ?
Hammersteyn
November 19, 2015 at 13:05
fixed it after posting, silly me
Darren Peach
November 19, 2015 at 13:25
Getting old does have it’s drawbacks. I find I have to trim my nose hairs and I have to wax my uni-brow……………………….The uni-brow is more vanity than necessity but although it was barely noticeable I felt compelled to start waxing it. 😉
Hammersteyn
November 19, 2015 at 13:37
lol
Dutch Matrix
November 19, 2015 at 14:31
So Ned Flanders finally snapped?
Hammersteyn
November 19, 2015 at 14:33
That was entertaining
Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)
November 19, 2015 at 12:49
A waffle with ice cream….
Ir0nseraph
November 19, 2015 at 12:51
There can be no other waffle .
Captain JJ the Goo
November 19, 2015 at 12:45
Damn you! Now it’s all I can think of.
Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)
November 19, 2015 at 13:12
I’m more upset that it’s the usual suspects (within the echo chamber of game journalism) that’s represented – the polygons, the vices, the igns….