When it comes to DRM, Denuvo’s the newest kid on the block. The tool, aimed to keep pirates at bay was at the centre of controversy when Russian hackers claimed that they way it worked – by constantly rewriting the EXE file to protect it from tampering – would severely degrade SSD lifespans, though it was later found to be quite untrue. It’s been a fairly successful one, keeping games like FIFA 15 and Lords of the Fallen safe from pirates for months. Rumours suggested it would be used with the PC version of GTA V. It has now been cracked.
It’s also the DRM that’s keeping pirates from slaying dragons in Thedas in Dragon Age: Inquisition. A group of Chinese hackers who really want to play Dragon Age but don’t want to pay for games has undone Denuvo, claiming that they’ve successfully circumvented the system.
Expect cracks for all Denuvo games to start flooding the internet. In fact, there’re cracks for Lords of the Fallen already doing the rounds, and according to anecdotal evidence, cracking the game actually increases performance. While piracy sucks and consumers should pay for the games they play, it sucks even more when DRM systems cause more issues for consumers than they do for pirates.
I suppose for publishers, that month or two of uncracked games was worth it in their eyes, even though sales of FIFA 15 on PC aren’t significantly higher than 14’s.
According to Denuvo itself, it’s not really a DRM solution, but rather one that helps protect DRM solutions.
Denuvo Anti-Tamper technology prevents the debugging, reverse engineering and changing of executable files to strengthen the security of games. It is not a DRM solution, but rather, Denuvo Anti-tamper protects DRM solutions, such as Origin Online Access or the Steam license management system, from being circumvented.
The license management from Steam or Origin grants legitimate consumers access to the game and our Anti-Tamper solution ensures that these DRM systems are not bypassed.
It’s essentially DRM for DRM.
Last Updated: December 2, 2014
Brady miaau
December 2, 2014 at 09:31
How does it degrade performance?
Ceyber, Slayer of Trolls
December 2, 2014 at 10:16
I noticed big frame drops in DA:I and FC4, so I’m guessing there’s some kind of encryption/decryption stream going on. Like if you walk ten steps then the game checks with Ubi and Ori if it’s okay to do that, like you need permission to open this door, or that chest.
No wait, you need real money for the chest, scratch that last one.
Brady miaau
December 2, 2014 at 10:30
Ok. I played DA:I on my shiny Xbox one and noticed nothing like that (except long load times)
That does suck
Ceyber, Slayer of Trolls
December 2, 2014 at 12:39
Shiny? Does that mean new? If so then congrats!
My PS4 is still in the shop. Just waiting on an arm and a leg.
Brady miaau
December 2, 2014 at 12:53
Yes, is new. With Kinect. Easy to use BUT Xbox 360 interface is slightly better in that pressing home button on controller brings up a quick menu and that is now GONE in Xbox one, home goes home.
Ceyber, Slayer of Trolls
December 2, 2014 at 13:20
That’s a shame. Is there a way to fiddle with the UI settings?
All I’ve ever had to use is alt-tab 😉
Brady miaau
December 2, 2014 at 13:26
I dunno yet. I do not care BECAUSE DA:I is too much fun.
We use the Xbox to play DVD’s as well, well that was Xbox 360 (still plugged in) and my wife says the One is not as easy to use in this regard as 360, but maybe time makes it easier.
I have console because, despite starting my career as It support, I could not care less to uograde PC and stuff. Home PC is Core2Duo and happy for it.
Laptop is fast though.
Ceyber, Slayer of Trolls
December 2, 2014 at 14:52
Have tp do a lot of graphics work so to have a better PC is more of a necessity for me, but I definitely see your point. Also, I got a crappy Mecer as my first touch of tech, long before my first console. Makes sense that my fondest gaming memories were first associated with computers, and only afterwards consoles.
I remember trawling through Encyclopedia Brittanica CD’s just to watch the video clips. Good times.
Lyserberg
January 17, 2015 at 22:29
The Encarta clips, man… i almost dropped tears there.
snakeeye
December 6, 2014 at 12:09
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XenitXTD
December 2, 2014 at 13:46
You can Double Click the Home to get the Pop Up Menu which allows you to snap apps ? cant remember XBOX 360 menu so cant tell how it compares…
Brady miaau
December 3, 2014 at 11:43
Thanks for the tip, but I tried it and does not seem to work.
Trouble is getting the Kinect system to think we are in England.
snakeeye
December 7, 2014 at 21:43
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snakeeye
December 4, 2014 at 20:32
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snakeeye
December 3, 2014 at 20:20
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December 3, 2014 at 23:16
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Brandon Banks
December 4, 2014 at 04:23
this is spam, troll, nice try though.
snakeeye
December 4, 2014 at 08:06
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snakeeye
December 11, 2014 at 20:21
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10178
December 2, 2014 at 21:42
jesus christ you console peasants. Denuvo is PC only.
Brady miaau
December 3, 2014 at 11:46
Hi.
I got an e-mail about a post here where somebody pointed out that the DRM is for PC only.
a) sarcasm is lost on the poster, but I see some people picked up on it.
b) post was rude, why? To improve the posters self worth and show superiority?
c) the post is deleted by staff?
Sean Torres
February 18, 2015 at 18:25
DRM is so not for pc only. There is a drm system for dlc and xbla so that is not true at all…
Juerias
December 3, 2014 at 12:09
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Matty
December 3, 2014 at 20:01
Denuvo is only for PC games so you won’t notice any degraded performance on consoles (other than them being, you know, consoles)
Brady miaau
December 3, 2014 at 20:05
Yes. I was pointing that out, but it seems only to myself. Sarcasm in written word is oftimes missed
Matty
December 3, 2014 at 20:58
oh. Yeah I’m just an idiot
Brady miaau
December 4, 2014 at 00:44
For not reading sarcasm? No way.
Brandon Banks
December 4, 2014 at 04:20
Your also talking about a console, not a PC.
Crysis85
December 2, 2014 at 12:15
Actually Far Cry 4 does not use denovo so your point is moot
Ceyber, Slayer of Trolls
December 2, 2014 at 12:22
When did I say it uses *Denuvo?
I gave an example of DRM mucking up your game. If I see UPlay achievements while I’m playing, I’d say there’s DRM involved.
Moot yourself.
Crysis85
December 2, 2014 at 12:28
The article is talking about Denuvo it was reasonable you were talking about it.
Anyhow, I don’t think the frame drops on these games are due to DRMs
Ceyber, Slayer of Trolls
December 2, 2014 at 12:31
Understandable misunderstanding.
I’d say it’s a mix of premature and poorly conceived DRM-implementation along with releasing products way too early.
RustedFaith
December 2, 2014 at 12:20
FC4 frame drops are from the bad engine besides they don’t use Denuvo …. your argument is invalid.
Ceyber, Slayer of Trolls
December 2, 2014 at 12:26
I fixed my frame drops engine-wise. The game runs perfectly fine after tweaking and about 10 gigs of patches.
If you’re okay with buying a game in the initial state it was after release then that’s fine. But like I said below, if I see UPlay achievements while I’m playing, I’d say there’s DRM involved.
RustedFaith
December 3, 2014 at 07:43
Denuvo is not DRM its copy protection for DRM …. DRM is a online form of copy protection by itself but it sells itself as value added features etc. Denuvo is pure copy protection and can only be compared to Securerom etc …
Sevic
December 3, 2014 at 08:37
Oh but it is DRM, don’t buy into that propaganda they are spouting that says otherwise. The intent of DRM is to control the use of content by the user which includes, but is not limited to, the ability to copy or alter said content but neither is a mandatory feature for a DRM system. And what is the purpose of Denuvo? To protect against unwanted modifications to the content, specifically program code, and thus has an intent of control over the use of the content. DRM does not need to operate online and the term can be used to describe any copy protection system like SecuROM or even just a basic CD key system (yes even they are considered a form of DRM).
So Denuvo really is DRM, them saying it’s not is just pure propaganda as an attempt to make themselves look better .
RustedFaith
December 3, 2014 at 08:47
DRM stand for Digital Rights Management and are used to verify your cd key with a online service or local cd key database to give you access to the product.
Copy Protection prevents you from launching the program and messing with the code to bypass the DRM.
Dont confuse DRM with Copy Protection its 2 entirely different things. In laymans I can see how you can think its the same but from a technical and historical standpoint they are worlds apart in what their functionality is.
Sevic
December 3, 2014 at 09:24
What exactly mandates that DRM operates online? You are getting caught up thinking DRM = online when this simply is not the case, just look at the Content Scrambling System used by DVDs or Advanced Access Content System used by Blu-Ray both of which lack online operation yet are still classed as DRM systems designed to protect copying.
I’m not confusing DRM with copy protection, copy protection is solely focused on preventing illegal copying whilst DRM is has a larger scope which encompasses that of copy protection. How exactly is copy protection not DRM when its purpose is to control how the user can copy the content when that is also an intent of DRM?
RustedFaith
December 3, 2014 at 09:32
DRM these days work exclusively online. Microsoft KMS service is a ofline DRM service but still runs over a lan.
There are allot of ofline DRM games/programs and they use local dotabases with cdkeys etc to verify your access.
I never stated its solely based online. But its exactly what it says Digital Rights Management it does checks to see what your cd key gives you access to in the package. ie. did you get the Collectors Addition and if so what items will be given for you ingame etc. Thats DRM in its truest form ….. or in the case of no cd key they COPY PROTECTION blocks you from playing it.
Sevic
December 3, 2014 at 10:09
“DRM is a online form of copy protection”
You said it is an online form of copy protection and never suggested otherwise until now.
And DRM does exactly what its name implies, it manages and enforces your rights to access digital content, that is DRM in its truest form. These rights include things like executing, copying, modifying, viewing or printing of the content. I think the problem is you are separating this enforcement out into its own thing and looking at DRM as it only saying what you can and cannot do, this however is wrong as the enforcement of these rights however are part and parcel of a DRM system. Now copy protection focuses on managing and enforcing your rights to copy and execute the content which may extend into modification to help protect this enforcement. This is exactly what DRM however with a broader focus.
RustedFaith
December 3, 2014 at 10:12
“You said it is an online form of copy protection and never suggested otherwise until now.”
I suggest you read my second last post again
Wait let me copy it from 2 posts ago below …
“DRM stand for Digital Rights Management and are used to verify your cd key with a online service or local cd key database to give you access to the product. It also might limit certain functionality or restrict how many times a game can install etc.”
Its obvious you are trying to play with words now but the facts are facts end of discussion cheers …
Sevic
December 3, 2014 at 10:36
What you mean a post you had edited some time after you originally posted it with no way of verifying the original content? Considering I didn’t see the your edit until after I posted my reply to it, I had never refreshed the page whilst I had the reply box opened, I cannot be sure whether that part about local CD key database was edited in or not but would lean towards the former since I do not recall seeing it and by my first question in my reply to that post (sorry if this is not the case, I openly admit I may have simply missed that part). But hey if you want to believe I was trying to play with words go right ahead, I’m not the one that have been editing their posts as you have done in all three of your replies to me with at the very least additional content at the end (take note I’m not saying you changed what you had said, just you have at least edited your posts to add extra stuff).
RustedFaith
December 3, 2014 at 11:02
Cool story you should use it as a fairytale to read to your kids before they go to bed… cheers
Sevic
December 3, 2014 at 11:38
So you are denying that you ever edited your posts? Your previous post shows otherwise where you went back and added a pointless blurb with nothing of worth after saying “end of discussion cheers” which one would typically be saying at the end of a post rather than the middle. But hey you want to continue living in your fairy tale world with your delusional belief about what DRM is and believing their propaganda that Denuvo isn’t DRM go right ahead, I’ve come to accept the fact you are too ignorant to be convinced otherwise.
shaggydawg
December 3, 2014 at 17:41
hey don’t knock Natsu that dude is BAD ASS and he is Fairy tail guild ( anime side rail )
Higira
December 5, 2014 at 03:55
did you just use Wiki as a reference.. LOL Did professors/teachers never teach you in school to NEVER EVER use wiki as a reference because it can be edited by ANYONE. It’s unreliable.
Mezmoin
December 9, 2014 at 00:51
You do know the at the bottom of wiki pages you can see the sources it is from SO it is entirely true you can get REAL info from wiki’s, as long as you check up on the information. SMH guess your teacher didnt explain that to ya since it would cut out the leg work in doing research.
Sam
December 2, 2014 at 13:37
I think it’s just your PC, it does have pretty decent recommended requirements. DA:I plays flawlessly for me, looks beautiful.
And I think they debunked that constant re-encryption thing.
Ceyber, Slayer of Trolls
December 2, 2014 at 14:43
My specs are over and above decent and I wan’tt talking about a hardware-level performance issue. I was guessing at how Denuvo is probably similar to the types of DRM used in games like DA:I. Whether it’s just cyclic online authentication or a simple memory bloating privacy-rapist, they’re all the same to me.
Sam
December 3, 2014 at 03:53
“Simple memory bloating privacy-rapist”? Geez, over-react much? If you think it’s “memory bloating” then that’s a hardware problem. And “privacy-rapist”? How exactly did you come to this conclusion?
DA:I works perfectly fine for me, it sounds like a hardware problem for you, or maybe you have too much junk running on your computer at the same time as the game.
Ceyber, Slayer of Trolls
December 3, 2014 at 13:49
For the last time, I don’t have hardware-related performance issues. Acting like you know more about my PC than I do is poor form on your part.
Also, calm down. I was describing DRM in a jovial way, it was meant to be light-hearted… so lighten up. Where in the entire fcuking world would I or anyone else realistically attribute or equate DRM to rape?! Get a grip man.
DA:I works fine but it has micro-stutters each and every time it (apparently) authenticates with the Origin servers. These stutters aren’t game-breaking or jarring in any way but they’re certainly a nuisance, simply because they shouldn’t be there in the first place. No GoG game has ever had this problem in my experience, so it’s defiinitely DRM-related.
Try not to comment during ungodly hours, maybe then you can think straight.
As for your ignorance with regards to DRM, bloatware and privacy invasion are characteristics of DRM. Go look it up.
Sam
December 4, 2014 at 09:31
I wasn’t the one who equated DRM to rape. And I don’t think I even dwelled on that either, although it is a shameful, idiotic and utterly untrue representation of DRM.
I agree with the general thought that set-ups are one of a kind in PC-land. My overall point was that hardware was most likely your issue. However it could be a software/malware/virus issue too.
And I don’t think my experience of having the game run just fine is singular or anything close to it. You say that slowed performance seems to be a common issue, can you link me to other reputable sources saying this? I have heard nothing about this from any news source and haven’t seen the community complaining about it either.
You seem to be the exception to the rule.
Ceyber, Slayer of Trolls
December 4, 2014 at 12:20
“I don’t think I dwelled on that either”
It was your entire first paragraph and the basis for your reply.
Here on this very site I’ve seen bug complaints on DA articles. A simple Google search turns up artifact problems, NPC glitches and other issues. Here’s an excerpt from Kotaku:
“Less happily, the version of Inquisition that I played had a whole bunch of bugs, from
small visual tics to game-halting glitches and crashes. A lot of those will likely be addressed in a couple of coming patches, but they’re still worth mentioning here.
Bottom line, don’t argue for the sake of it. You’re just making yourself look bad.
Sam
December 5, 2014 at 06:48
Can you tell me a game that I could google and NOT come back with results on X game + artifacts, bugs, etc???
And hilariously I read that article too and I remember that he played the PS4 version.
Didn’t help your argument there buddy. The game runs pretty flawlessly on a good PC. I am sure there are glitches and/or bugs you can find on DA:I, just like you could on literally every single other modern game in existence. The worlds are too big to iron out literally everything, let alone even have all these things come up in testing. But this game runs just fine if you have a good PC. You constantly experiencing hiccups with DA:I is a reflection on your PC and not on the game (and certainly not the DRM that protects Steam as you argue with no evidence!)
You’re the one who looks bad when you can’t even correctly make YOUR OWN POINTS and are too lazy/too stupid to even read/understand the entire source that you cite!
Ceyber, Slayer of Trolls
December 5, 2014 at 13:41
You said there are no problems with DA:I. You were the one who generalized. I have no time for hypocrisy.
Bugs are a separate issue to the one being discussed here. We’re talking about Denuvo and DRM.
You make a fair point about my quote. Unfortunately it’s irrelevant because I told you how I have no hardware-related problems. Last night I played with no “glitches” whatsoever.
You’re missing the point – go back to my original comment – which is that the game, (like the other purchase I’ve made recently, FC4), requires an always-online PC just to be able to play the single-player game.
These ‘authenticating’ procedures in no way improve the performance of your game. SHOW ME ONE CREDIBLE SOURCE WHERE THEY SAY OTHERWISE.
You’re arguing for the sake of it, not being constructive and proving your arrogance, never mind using my opinion as the platform for your high horse.
Sam
December 6, 2014 at 11:17
Let’s make your issue very clear. You’re saying that you’re consistently having frame rate drops when interacting with object or NPCs and that this is due to Denuvo, correct?
I’m curious why you would even link Denuvo to it. Do you work for them? Because unless you do or you work for the team that helped them with it on Steam/Valve, I’m not sure how you even have any knowledge at all of how it works. I don’t even know how it works. About the only thing we DO know about Denuvo is that it protects Steam. Really the DRM protecting DA:I is still Steam, but Denuvo is protecting Steam from being cracked. So I’m not even sure that Denuvo is running during the game
Not only that, but you continue to conjure up new lies or half truths. DA:I single player can indeed be played offline. And I think that brings up something I didn’t think of before and which also shoots your argument down about some constant DRM server authentication causing issues, you don’t even have to be online to play DA:I single player.
You talk of hypocrisy and yet you don’t even know what you’re talking about in the slightest. Not only that but you make things up. Once again, I think it’s clear that you don’t even own the game and are just raging because you aren’t able to steal it.
One last point, every single EA game has a 24 hour money back guarantee with digital copies (and even some hard copies, depending on the game). If you don’t like the game for whatever reason you can get 100% of your money back within 24 hours no matter how much you’ve been able to play. So I’m not sure why this would even be an issue with an EA game.
One point you make I do agree with is micro-transactions. If it’s a free-to-play game and you can still have a good experience without them, I don’t mind. I also don’t mind if it’s a paid game or subscription game with microtransactions that provide very little to no benefit (like graphical stuff or some kind of mount/run-speed thing in an MMO). I had thought though that games with microtransactions that didn’t fit within those two parameters have been pretty much weeded out of the industry these days.
Please don’t call me a hypocrite when you can’t even get your own facts straight in any of your arguments. I’ve been hypocritical about nothing
Ceyber, Slayer of Trolls
December 6, 2014 at 12:19
…
Sam
December 6, 2014 at 21:07
Oh man, I had you pegged from my first comment. And now that your entire argument has unraveled you try to obfuscate and turn the tables on me.
First off, you say “LOL Now you’re accusing me of piracy?” Then admit to piracy two seconds later?
It’s really annoying when people can’t even admit they’re wrong. You originally said that Denuvo was doing some kind of constant authentication with it’s servers and that’s what was causing you issues. Well from what we know of Denuvo, it doesn’t sound to me like it would even be doing that. It’s not doing anything extra special during the game. It’s not another layer of protection working alongside Steam, it’s just working to protect Steam. Whatever Steam does during the game (I don’t want to get into specifics here, but I could if you’d like) isn’t changing. If that doesn’t discredit your argument, the fact that it’s not even necessary for the game to be online to play single player means that it’s certainly not doing any extra “checking” with whoever’s servers.
And I see you still can’t quite bring yourself to admit you haven’t actually purchased DA:I and are just raging because you can’t steal it. Again, you didn’t even know the game could be played in off line mode. That’s something you would have seen if you owned the game. Second, your issues you discussed are either hardware related or you’re making them up because the issues you describe haven’t been reported elsewhere. You swear they aren’t hardware related (I believe it, since I don’t believe you don’t actually own the game) and so the only thing we’re left with is that you don’t own the game.
Did I break it down for you enough this time? You are pretty transparent man. You’re already an admitted pirate. You’re pissed because you can’t steal it and decided to just bad mouth the game. Pretty simple, Mr. Slayer of Trolls
Ceyber, Slayer of Trolls
December 6, 2014 at 22:36
Why is the internet so full of idiots?
Your accusations are pathetic.
My piracy of AC:U doesn’t go against anything I’ve ever said, here or anywhere else for that matter. I just gave you an honest answer.
When did I say DA can’t be played offline? Is it less enjoyable offline? Hell yes.
I didn’t say Denuvo was doing server authentication.
I guessed at how it degrades performance. I’ll paste it here, again, just for your thick and oh-so-special skull:
“I noticed big frame drops in DA:I and FC4, so I’m guessing there’s
some kind of encryption/decryption stream going on. Like if you walk ten
steps then the game checks with Ubi and Ori if it’s okay to do that,
like you need permission to open this door, or that chest.
No wait, you need real money for the chest, scratch that last one.”
You’re so out of touch it’s sad. Do you honestly think you’ve got me “pegged”?
I haven’t changed the subject, nor have my arguments changed or been altered. You for some reason see the need to make something out of nothing. Good luck with life.
bbqz
December 7, 2014 at 12:36
Your elegant way with words have inspired me to make a account so i can comment and inform you.
that you rock!
sorry sammy boy 🙁
Ceyber, Slayer of Trolls
December 7, 2014 at 23:16
Thanks man, I try.
Don’t be scarce now, can never have too many sensible people 😉
Sam
December 8, 2014 at 02:11
You are unbelievably stupid and can’t even keep all your stories straight.
“Your accusations are pathetic. When did I say DA can’t be played offline?”
Right here stupid;
“Go back to my original comment, which says that the game, (like the other purchase I’ve made recently – FC4), requires an always-online PC just to be able to play the single-player game”
“Your attempts at intellectual superiority are amusing to say the least.”
Speaking of potatoes, *they* have intellectual superiority over you
“Again. LOL.”
I feel the same way each time you respond.
“Are you saying that extra bandwidth (for example) is not needed for extra protection like Denuvo??”
You keep acting like you know how Denuvo works WHEN YOU HAVE NO IDEA and not only that but you blamed some mysterious issues on it. I don’t really know how it works either, but from what we do know and what I know of DRM in general, I think it requires very little to no bandwidth use (in any “bandwidth” category, although I assume you’re talking about the internet here). This really is the crux of my whole issue with you. You’ve reported problems haven’t been reported by anyone else, let alone having anyone connect it to Denuvo. Do you think think that anyone would license Denuvo if it caused issues like what you report? Especially Bioware/EA?
“I didn’t say Denuvo was doing server authentication.”
Huh? Yes, you did. If not, then what in the world does this mean;
“I noticed big frame drops in DA:I and FC4, so I’m guessing there’s some kind of encryption/decryption stream going on. Like if you walk ten steps then the game checks with Ubi and Ori if it’s okay to do that, like you need permission to open this door, or that chest.”
“You’re so out of touch it’s sad. Do you not see the point I was making? Do you honestly think you’ve got me “pegged”?
I haven’t changed the subject, nor have my arguments changed or been altered.”
I don’t believe you have been changing the subject or trying to change your arguments or altering them on purpose. I think you’re either brain damaged and have memory issues or you’re just really stupid.
“Again, are you sure you wanna keep this up? You’re too far in now and see the desperate need to try and make something big out of nothing as the only means of saving face. Good luck with life… Sam?”
So what are you doing here then? Is your continuing to respond somehow morally superior? You make all these arguments, forget you’ve made them, then act like I’m the idiot for bringing them up.
Good luck to you in life Mr. Slayer of Trolls. I sure hope you aren’t in charge of anything important.
Idiots Everywhere
December 8, 2014 at 06:47
When did he report an issue with Denuvo? The man guessed and made a joke. You’re full of shit and you’ve obviously lost the plot.
This is very entertaining though. Thank you.
Sam
December 9, 2014 at 16:44
When did he report an issue with Denuvo? Seriously? That’s what this entire argument has been about. Did you even read the article you’re posting under?
Apparently I’m the only one here able to comprehend the plot. Ceyber can’t remember what he says and contradicts himself, and the idiots supporting him are bringing up religion and don’t even realize we’re talking about Denuvo.
My god, people are stupid.
Ceyber, Slayer of Trolls
December 8, 2014 at 07:31
THANK YOU!
You deserve this, you stubborn little asshole you!
I’m still replying because you’re wrong, or was that not obvious??
I gave you a chance to curb that arrogance. But no, you think you’re SO clever. I don’t know what I’m talking about when it comes to Denuvo, I never said I was an expert, yet it’s completely okay for you to guess at everything you’ve ever brought up, to coalesce in to this puddle of muddled guesswork-drivel and dumbfounded accusations, with nothing but your blind arrogance to keep together that despicable pile of feces you dare to think you can call a person.
http://i.imgur.com/zDcswVr.jpg
You now have no foot to stand on, like I’ve consistently said, you’re on a delusional vendetta that in the end no-one gave a shit about, but now you look stupid anyway. Go ahead and search Google for that image, like I now you will, because that’s your last resort now.
I’m not usually a dick, but you have most definitely deserved this. Your idiocy is now on full display for the entire world to see. How’s that for clarity?
You twat.
Ryanza
December 8, 2014 at 07:38
DSTV?
Ceyber, Slayer of Trolls
December 8, 2014 at 07:40
Don’t you mean DRM?
Sam
December 9, 2014 at 16:37
You really want a display of idiocy do you? Well, here you are in your full glory:
****************
“The ‘micro-stutters’ are without interacting with anything. You have no idea what games I own, let alone the ones I play. Don’t tell me my facts are wrong then make no attempt to disprove them.”
That one was after you yelled at me for mentioning you said your issues were happening when interacting with objects in the game….. here is a previous comment where you mentioned it happening in the game;
“Like if you walk ten steps then the game checks with Ubi and Ori if it’s okay to do that, like you need permission to open this door, or that chest.”
****************
“I don’t have hardware-related performance issues.”
“Whether it’s just cyclic online authentication or a simple memory bloating privacy-rapist, they’re all the same to me.”
This is one of the dumbest to me, because after I talk about how it’s probably a hardware issue for you, you come back with this. If you don’t have enough memory, THEN IT’S A HARDWARE ISSUE. And the privacy rapist thing? You yourself just said you don’t know anything about Denuvo. You’re just grasping at straws to try to insult the game and the DRM with that one, which you still haven’t attempted to explain your reasoning for.
Then here’s you YELLING AT ME LATER FOR SAYING YOU SAID IT WAS DOING ONLINE AUTHENTICATION
“I didn’t say Denuvo was doing server authentication.”
And here’s you changing your mind again;
“DA:I works fine for me but it has micro-stutters each and every time it (apparently) authenticates with the Origin servers.”
You just change your story from one reply to the next. If it’s not doing server authentication or anything online and it’s not a hardware issue, isn’t the whole basis of your argument (memory-bloating privacy rapist) just completely null and void? It’s as if you argue against yourself sometimes because you can’t even remember what you’ve been saying.
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“Your accusations are pathetic. When did I say DA can’t be played offline?”
Yet another example of you saying something then not remembering you said it two replies later, then getting mad at ME and trying to make ME look like the idiot here! You keep thinking I’m going off on tangents BECAUSE YOU CAN’T EVEN REMEMBER WHAT YOU’RE SAYING FROM ONE REPLY TO THE NEXT. Below is where you say DA can’t be played offline;
“Go back to my original comment, which says that the game, (like the other purchase I’ve made recently – FC4), requires an always-online PC just to be able to play the single-player game”
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Would you like me to go on? Because this isn’t the complete list of your contradictions and display of horrible memory.
As for being rude to you, I obviously was, but you were the one who started off with the bad attitude here so please spare me the righteous indignation. And what is that screenshot supposed to show me exactly??? You never even explained why you linked it and I can’t see any sort of bugs or issues in it, although I guess I’m missing something?
This is the longest argument I’ve ever had with anyone on the internet. If you want to call a truce, I’ll just offer that now and extend my hand. I think we’ve both gone off the deep end a little bit here and the argument has turned ridiculous.
Ceyber, Slayer of Trolls
December 9, 2014 at 20:26
SMFH.
You know, if you take a step back and have a look at this conversation, the votes kinda tell the story. Having an opinion is a respectable thing to aim for, but you’ve gone about it the wrong way.
The reason as to why we clash heads so spectacularly, and why it seems like you’re very much in the minority here; is because you’re a very literal person. If I were you I’d just be more careful before posting anything, at least until you learn some metaphors and similes (at the very least).
Doesn’t matter if you want a truce because whether you like it or not this is over. I really shouldn’t have entertained this, sorry to LG for wasting so much space.
I’m not trying to belittle you but… you’re this guy!
http://33.media.tumblr.com/279fb8cdc0106c81aa043d62323008a6/tumblr_nakn244B731tv0602o1_500.jpg
Sam
December 10, 2014 at 06:01
I love how you don’t even address your contradictions and/or horrible memory. Are you trying to play it off as some sort of a joke that I don’t get? If so, that’s absurd. We both know all those examples I listed weren’t some kind of intentional comedy from you.
All you can come up with is yet more strawman attacks, insults and obfuscation. I don’t want or need a truce, I was offering you one because you just keep digging yourself a hole.
As for your precious handful of votes, they’re coming from fellow iThieves who hate me for supporting DRM and the right of studios to protect their products. It’s no mystery. If you step back and look at the votes on any comment on this article you’ll see the pattern. It’s just people googling around trying to find a crack for DA:I, two people who replied to me even said so.
I feel like I’m in some bizarro universe here. You were pissy from the start and started to attack my points about the DRM not being a hardware issue by telling me I was going off on tangents or making things up about what you’ve said when in reality it was just you being ignorant or idiotic or having horrible memory or some combination of those. Then when I call you on it you ignore that too and now you’re just into pure insults. You couldn’t even answer my question about what you were trying to show me in the screenshot YOU posted. I don’t think this conversation can go any lower then it is right now so unless you’ve got something constructive to add you can have the last word 🙂
Ceyber, The Metal Rabbit
December 10, 2014 at 14:30
Buffoon. Have you heard about the patch that’s coming? The one that fixes bugs and glitches and stutters?
Not once have I contradicted myself. All those “examples” you listed are pointless, that’s what everyone’s trying to say. Pic is a screenshot of my game. The fact that I have to spell it out for you says more than any amount of vomit you could possibly attempt to spew.
Have a nice life.
Sam
December 10, 2014 at 21:30
Thanks for letting me know what the screenshot meant. Unfortunately for you, that’s a lie too;
https://www.google.com/search?q=dragon+age+inquisition&tbm=isch&tbs=simg:CAQSZRpjCxCo1NgEGgIIBAwLELCMpwgaPAo6CAISFLsJ4BnjGe8avwmzD60JoA-5G_1oYGiD11bwBiigOlQvFrgjSyKF00YOv6Lcud_1ITn5gAUi-e6AwLEI6u_1ggaCgoICAESBMM4L24M&sa=X&ei=5p6IVJfCOoqxyQS1_IDQAw&ved=0CBwQ2A4oAQ&biw=1278&bih=715
That screenshot is all over the internet. To the rest, like I said earlier I’m done with the bickering.
Ceyber, The Metal Rabbit
December 10, 2014 at 22:19
Not the same pic, almost though. Put yours next to mine (nice try).
Love girls and games
December 7, 2014 at 00:59
Dude. Youre outta line, doesnt matter if he got the game, this is all pretty stupid. I’m givin him benefit of doubt and looks like other people too.
Ceyber, Slayer of Trolls
December 7, 2014 at 01:54
Uh… Thanks?
Srivinasa
December 7, 2014 at 14:41
Don’t bother him, man. Some people are simply unsatisfied with everything in the world. Sad, raging, kid
I had AMD 7870 card with 8 Gb memory and I was able to play the game without lag at all. Not to mention I open 40 tab of Chrome, 4 power power point, 10 pdf for my research, 4 MS Word and occasionally stream for some other game. All that without any lag, stutter, graphic overheating, blue screen, fps drop or any other shenanigan that this fella come up with.
What he talk about, regarding Denuvo frequent interact with memory is a statement taken from russian hacker, of course without any single shred of credibility. What a bait
Ceyber, Slayer of Trolls
December 7, 2014 at 22:46
So this is the type of person I’ve been dealing with? Goddamn that explains a lot. Thanks.
Me me me
December 19, 2014 at 14:37
mate how many projects are you doing each hour XD
Mezmoin
December 9, 2014 at 01:00
I am sure mr do right Sam i am pretty sure you pirated something a movie, a game, a pack of gum. Doubt you ever played a game with out using exploits cheats etc etc. HELL everyone used the turtle bounce to get a crown in Super Mario Brothers which in its own right is a exploit to gain a advantage dont be so high and mighty. The fact that it went from him stating Denuvo is a DRM type thing (which it is) and you blowing off on far to many tangents is quite funny. Ohh i wont get a email to alert me about a repost, and I doubt i will find this site again. Quite funny how you pulled a I am christian and all other religion types are evil bad, and must be purified holier then thou outlook towards this person, just pretty much explains why everyone cant ever get along without raping, pillaging, marauding, or basically savages through the ages.
Sam
December 9, 2014 at 16:09
wtf are you talking about, you’re worse then Ceyber. Where did I get into a discussion about religion??? Have I entered bizarro world?
Danny
December 2, 2014 at 14:05
The frame drops weren’t because of Denuvo. Cutscenes are locked at 30 fps and the driver optimisations are not good
Kyle Warford
December 3, 2014 at 17:26
i read your later post, but this one is worded very poorly. you lump dai and fc4 together.
Ceyber, Slayer of Trolls
December 3, 2014 at 17:29
Neither does Dragon Age: Inqusition, I didn’t say they use it. Read carefully.
Kyle Warford
December 3, 2014 at 17:32
correct, you just aren’t clear in your point. what do you mean da:i does not use denuvo? knowing you think that it makes even less sense that you replied to this at all, let alone how you worded your post.
Ceyber, Slayer of Trolls
December 3, 2014 at 18:51
My mistake, no one would say DA:I isn’t Denuvo. Long day at work I guess, typed that out a bit too prematurely. But I get your point, you get mine.
Woohoo.
Miguel Leiva-Gomez
December 9, 2014 at 23:35
FC4 is not protected by Denuvo. But yes, it’s a very poor port, like… uhm… everything else released in 2014.
Ceyber, The Metal Rabbit
December 10, 2014 at 14:40
Very true, sad year for gaming overall. Hopefully 2015 can reignite the spark!
Kromas, Guardian of Cenarius
December 2, 2014 at 10:21
Most DRM launch during game launch and comsume memory in the background while also slowing down load time as they check file integrity during file initiation. Some DRM go as far as to be TSR and just crap on your pc’s memory. Also some older Ubisoft based DRM modified your your CD-Roms laser to read at the edge of a disc causing stability issues and eventually made discs go boom in your drive. Not really a performance degradation but just an example of how DRM just screws with your crap. The only DRM that is slightly less obtrusive is online digital platform DRM aka Steam and to an extent Origin. The problem is most games have more than one form of DRM running.
Raptor Rants A Lot
December 2, 2014 at 11:09
Dude, I remember that teribad disc laser DRM. I actually lost a CD-Rom drive due to that.
Kromas, Guardian of Cenarius
December 2, 2014 at 11:14
I will never forget Starforce even though every night a try to and break down in tears.
Brady miaau
December 2, 2014 at 12:52
Close for me too. Feck em
HairyEwok
December 2, 2014 at 09:38
Yep enough internetz for me today, i read circumcised instead of circumvented… Crackers will crack and it won’t likely be stopped.
Norm (@e3zype3zy)
December 2, 2014 at 10:09
You Sir, need a drink.
I'm really feeling it! (Umar)
December 2, 2014 at 09:39
RyanZa gonaa explode hahahahahaha I see your DRM and I raise you…MORE DRM!!!
Alien Emperor Trevor
December 2, 2014 at 09:40
LOL. DRM has ALWAYS been more of an inconvenience for paying customers than pirates.
Hammersteyn
December 2, 2014 at 09:45
Agreed, Pirates don’t use DRM
Alien Emperor Trevor
December 2, 2014 at 09:47
… or support it? 😀
Quo Vadis?
December 2, 2014 at 09:50
yea, why buy the cow when you can steal the milk, slaughter it and eat for free? lol
Ceyber, Slayer of Trolls
December 2, 2014 at 10:12
I shouldn’t have to get more shrewd with my hobby, instead this “AAA”
industry should stop making false claims and releasing broken products.
Maybe then piracy would become less of a plague?
Alien Emperor Trevor
December 2, 2014 at 10:16
Doubt it, there’ll always be those who’re just unwilling to pay for their games.
Ceyber, Slayer of Trolls
December 2, 2014 at 10:21
Instead of making pirates a minority, this sorta thing just aggravates the problem and more and more landlubbers sign up. Or in my case, an old sea dog feeling the pull of the open sea once more…
Alien Emperor Trevor
December 2, 2014 at 10:33
I’d rather just wait & get the final, complete, working game a year after release. I’m too old to waste time with beta versions.
Ceyber, Slayer of Trolls
December 2, 2014 at 12:16
How do you suppress your inner hype?!
http://www.troll.me/images2/goat-anymore/teach-me-master-.jpg
Alien Emperor Trevor
December 2, 2014 at 12:55
Years & years of cynicism heh.
Ceyber, Slayer of Trolls
December 2, 2014 at 13:15
If I found a couple of white hairs in my beard (I’m 27), doesn’t that shave off a few years?
Eish, ‘scuse the pun.
Ozzh3D
December 2, 2014 at 12:12
Anyone know the piracy rates of the Witcher 2? Projekt Red don’t do DRM, so seeing the ratio at which their games are pirated vs legit copies would be an interesting study.
Ceyber, Slayer of Trolls
December 2, 2014 at 13:12
After a quick search, it’s estimated that Witcher 2 was pirated 4.5 million times o_O
Here’s a great interview with CDPR CEO on DRM:
http://www.pcgamer.com/interview-cd-projekts-ceo-on-witcher-2-piracy-why-drms-still-not-worth-it/
Something their game director said caught my eye. They’ve been countering piracy by adding proper value to your purchase of their game, with books or trivia or collectibles, along with other types of lore-enhancing content. The proof of the success of this method is in how the DRM-free GOG version of Witcher 2 was actually pirated way less than the SecuROM version (which had DRM).
Also, a few people are overly-cautious regarding the download assistant that’s coming with Witcher 3. Here’s what their MD said,
“We use no DRM and we never will. The fact that we have a download
assistant has worried a few people because they’re afraid it’s the first
step on the way to having an always-on client like some other
distributors out there. We’ll never do that. Our download assistant has
a very limited scope of information that it accesses.
There’s no authentication server. There’s no functions to sweep through
your memory or your storage device looking for other active programs or
data. There’s no bloatware or privacy invasion. It just helps you
download games at incredibly quick speeds.”
shaggydawg
December 3, 2014 at 17:45
ok so if i understand it all then the drm work around for i tunes video lets say can be fooled, now add origin or steam (stem is eaisier origin is a bitch atm for me, but if u maybe put it in a virtual machine with no internet access can you fool origion?
Brandt Mackay
December 15, 2014 at 20:37
Why do you think I circumvent all the DRM my games have that I legally purchased? DRM is for pussies XD
Hammersteyn
December 2, 2014 at 09:44
Delay all PC games immediately until they get new DRM up and running 😛
Reid
December 2, 2014 at 09:45
So GTA 5 will be delayed even more.
Hammersteyn
December 2, 2014 at 09:45
Till 2017
Corrie
December 2, 2014 at 10:09
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
That game is coming out January 27 2015, if it likes it or not
Hammersteyn
December 2, 2014 at 10:18
It’s coming all right, to Pirate Bay
Corrie
December 2, 2014 at 10:49
Lol I want to hold the discs in my hand and throw and flip the bird to all that have laughed that we wouldn’t get it
Hammersteyn
December 2, 2014 at 10:50
I can just imagine how good it will look on Pc
Corrie
December 2, 2014 at 10:58
I just hope they don’t pull a ubi with the requirements
Brandt Mackay
December 15, 2014 at 20:37
DRM sycophant alert!!
Reid
December 2, 2014 at 09:45
It took them 15 days to crack it. They could have gotten jobs in that time to pay for it
Hammersteyn
December 2, 2014 at 09:45
It’s the principle I guess?
Reid
December 2, 2014 at 09:46
Yeah the sticking it to the man principle
CC
December 2, 2014 at 09:52
How much did it cost to create the ‘not a DRM’ software… The developers could have paid the crackers to play the game…
Just saying
Manash Kr Pathak
December 2, 2014 at 21:28
I believe the crackers already buy the game in order to crack it.
geelslang
December 2, 2014 at 14:38
Its not on piratebay yet. Untill I see it there I consider it not cracked.
Maxx Kilbride
December 2, 2014 at 14:45
Usually cracked games hit TPB last.
geelslang
December 2, 2014 at 14:51
oh, ok, shows what I know.
Justin Brower
December 3, 2014 at 01:01
That’s because they have a very nice system of weeding out fakes and virus infested torrents. I still have yet to ever get a virus from using the bay. Ever.
Matthew Holliday
December 2, 2014 at 14:49
the cracking sites will upload it first.
so sites for skidrow, nosteam, repack etc will get it a few days earlier.
or so i hear.
Maxx Kilbride
December 2, 2014 at 14:45
What a joke.
You think people who can crack software that a company spent tens of millions developing(Their words), over the course of nearly a decade, they crack it in 15 days…
They have jobs. High paying ones, no doubt.
Rahkem
December 3, 2014 at 03:29
yess they do , they crack games for fun and to help the certain ppl who cant play these games legally if they wanted to.
Brandt Mackay
December 15, 2014 at 20:38
Yes because DRM isn’t invasive to legit users at all. Oh wait.
Shafi Rpl
December 2, 2014 at 18:01
Thank god do u have any idea about them, they are not your average starving college student. Most of them, if not all of them have decent job good enough to live an affluent life. They go to work at dawn, and after coming home at dusk, they start pirating stuff. Its like living a double life. And most of them do this not for money but for having fun, ok.
Reid
December 2, 2014 at 19:15
Yeah, but 3DM didn’t do it for fun. They had other reasons. One of which is the distribution of pirated games for the good of the pc gaming market. They sound just like these guys http://www.lazygamer.net/xbox-360/xbox-live-is-down-hackers-claim-responsibility/
.Their actions will just cause the companies to send their DRM gnomes working on even more intrusive and stronger DRM. Which will be cracked eventually. Causing the same cycle to start over again. I don’t like some of the DRM methods, but the companies won’t stop that easily.
Justin Brower
December 3, 2014 at 01:02
Nothing anyone will ever do will stop piracy. Pure and simple.
All anyone can do is embrace it for what it can be used for (free publicity and beta testing)
Justin Brower
December 3, 2014 at 00:57
You’re a fucking idiot.
You’re not including any other statistics.
So, let’s say that they get a minimum wage job because that’s all that’s available (not even talking about how it’s actually quite difficult sometimes to get a job). Depending on where you live, minimum wage is different (here, it’s about $8.25). So, they get a job working part time. Well, you’re not including any stats about how many hours they fucking work. So, let’s say they work part time and get roughly 20 hours a week. That’s 40 x 8.25 for a two week paycheck. That’s $330 (without taxes taken out). Ok. So, depending on who we’re talking about here, a person may be young or old and living with their parents or by themselves. They may pay rent (there goes $300-$400 AT LEAST), they may pay a lot in gas such as I do (every other week, it’s about $45-$50), they may–actually they NEED–pay health insurance (which is expensive as hell. avg monthly premium of 2013 was $197). They need car insurance ($50 onward per month). They need to buy food, if they live alone or even with their parents (per month, for me and my girlfriend: $700-$1000 roughly). They need to pay for phone (at least $70 a month), heat (ranges from $25 in the summer to $300 or more during the winter), water ($20-more depending on usage), internet/cable (packages can range from $100-$300. just internet could be $30-$100), electric (depending on your setup, could be $125 or more), garbage ($30 roughly).
Let’s add all that up shall we? We have $330 (pre-taxed) to spend per month. We HAVE to spend money on these per month: gas ($50 filling up once), food ($100 eating very, very light), health insurance ($197), car insurance ($50 with minimal coverage), water ($25 light usage month), garbage ($30), electric ($125 very light usage), phone ($70 with smartphone), rent ($300 which is amazing rent), internet ($30)… all that adds up to: $977.
Yeah, so, from this ONE fucking paycheck that is still not having tax taken out of it, we have gone OVER by $647. Well, let’s say that they live in an apartment where they only have to pay electric from utilities: gas ($50), food ($100), health ($197), car insurance ($50), electric ($125), phone ($70), rent ($300), internet ($30)=$922. Over by $592.
Well you say, let’s cut back on other things, so now they don’t have a car and get rides to work (no gas and car insurance) and they still have yet to sign up for health insurance and they forgo having a phone deciding only to email: food ($100), electric ($125), rent ($300), internet ($30)=$555. Over by $225.
That is about as bare bones as you can get while still trying to have entertainment and live a somewhat normal life. It is not possible in the scenario you set out that they could afford it with ONE PAYCHECK (in the 15 days that it took to crack the DRM). And you fucking sit there thinking that they could have gotten a job and payed for it right away? Fucking idiot.
Reid
December 3, 2014 at 08:30
That all just boils down to justified piracy. There are cheaper and often better games then the triple A ones. There are sales and a lot of free to play games out there. Don’t justify piracy. I can’t afford all these new games so I wait. Go on and do other things and eventually play when I can get it for cheaper.
Justin Brower
December 3, 2014 at 09:05
Piracy has a purpose: publicity and beta testing.
In that way, yes it is justified piracy. As you can plainly see, the game Dragon Age Inquisition has NOT been cracked yet and piracy had NOTHING to do with sales, so drop that argument from the equation entirely.
By the way, I’m a person who bought the game, yet I’m waiting patiently for a cracked version so that I CAN UNINSTALL THIS PIECE OF FUCKING SHIT PROGRAM CALLED ORIGIN. Resource hog! Holy shit! I run a plex server on this same computer and I barely experience any lag at all while others watch…but origin has slowed down my gameplay (either origin or the Denuvo DRM has). I hate game clients, they’re horrible. Almost as bad at resource hogging as itunes was.
I will justify piracy of cracked products for as long as companies make buying the damn thing difficult (initial stock) and the operation of said product shitty (glitches in installation and operation) from the onset. At the same time, they all attempt to crack down on modification and fixing of the product by end users, which is another reason why I support cracked product piracy–those issues can then be worked on and solved by those who have the means to when they want. We don’t have to rely on product patches that may take months or years to reach us.
Rahkem
December 3, 2014 at 03:28
They crack these games for people in other countries who pay triple what we pay for games , or in countries like india where this game was banned for homosexuality. They have to buy it to crack it anyways. Sure americans like us could just buy the game but its not that simple for alot of ppl around the world
David Joseph Robinson
December 4, 2014 at 08:45
In order to crack a game, one has to own it.
Reid
December 4, 2014 at 08:49
1 copy is needed, but cracked and copied for many.
Mathias
December 2, 2014 at 09:47
Finally… Let’s hope publishers stop using this piece of garbage.
Bender
December 2, 2014 at 22:47
Yeah and let’s hope banks just stop locking the doors at night too.
Because “logic”.
Idiot.
Troll
December 3, 2014 at 15:30
Not the same thing. Idiot. The product you buy from a retail store is not the same as a bank. If you want to compare the two then the product would be more like the money you withdraw from the bank.
Anyway your post was just a troll post.
Matthew Holliday
December 2, 2014 at 10:01
good, he hasnt posted yet.
Dont support DRMception.
Ceyber, Slayer of Trolls
December 2, 2014 at 10:12
You beat him by about 7 minutes 😛
I got burnt, bad.
Bought both FC4 and DA:I but only managed to get them both working 100% this past Friday. That’s almost two weeks after I got FC4, and definitely after pirates have already completed it.
Matthew Holliday
December 2, 2014 at 10:49
actually, i really dont care about DRM, i just wanted to inb4ryan.
DRM is here to stay and no amount of arguing is going to change that, same as DLC and microtransactions. its best to just deal with it.
with sales and stuff from both origin and steam, im ok with it.
preordered DA:I, im about 70 hours in sofar…
still first playthrough.
I think Im just a little over levelled now.
Ceyber, Slayer of Trolls
December 2, 2014 at 12:10
Yeah we’re in the same boat with DRM. My gripe is all the patches and tweaking necessary just to get a supposedly “AAA” and “Gold” game running.
70 hours?! You have a lot of time for this hobby of ours! 😉
I’ve gotten about 3 hours in to DA:I but think I’ll get another GTX680 before I get properly lost in that world, one card isn’t enough. (Strangely though I can play FC4 at max with down-sampling)
Also, played Unity at a friend’s last night on PS4, jerked all the way through the 30min I spent running around. No wonder they gave out free DLC.
Matthew Holliday
December 2, 2014 at 14:47
i dedicate, i get super into games when i play them, so when a new one comes along, thats it, dont bother me till im finished.
to be honest though, this is taking a fair bit longer than expected and the dedication is starting to wear on me.
Ceyber, Slayer of Trolls
December 2, 2014 at 15:19
I admire that passion, but doing that with a game like this is like wolfing down a whole bag of Doritos all at once.
I’d rather pace myself and sink in the sights properly. Enjoy every flavorful crunch!
Matthew Holliday
December 2, 2014 at 16:15
i actually think the opposite.
a game this size requires forward momemtum, im not saying rush through it, im taking my time, but investing heavilly.
it isnt the kind of game that works with one hour sessions.
Ceyber, Slayer of Trolls
December 2, 2014 at 16:31
Agree with you in that an hour is way too short. To avoid burnout I meant a weekend then maybe playing something else during the week (as an example).
I tend to always focus on finding the middle ground in everything that I do, so I do occasionally miss out on the benefits of exploring the further ends of the spectrum, if you know what I mean.
Raptor Rants A Lot
December 2, 2014 at 10:59
Hahahahahaha. Well played
Ryanza
December 2, 2014 at 10:08
Don’t support DRM!!! The paying customers deserves more. The Witcher 2 was released with SecuROM DRM and it come with a big performance hit. CD Projekt RED got rid of that shitty DRM quickly because the paying customers deserves more.
Now we have Denuvo DRM, the miracle DRM cure, DRM on top of DRM, and it’s been cracked, showing that DRM is not the solution.
DRM = segregation. And we know all about how bad segregation is.
Anyway. DRM is bad. Sad to see even more DRM added. Denuvo DRM has been cracked but for all the wrong reasons. Better news would be if DRM just fucks off from retail products.
Don’t support DRM. The Witcher 3 is coming.
Hammersteyn
December 2, 2014 at 10:39
There he is 😀
Hammersteyn
December 2, 2014 at 10:39
Check the tag lol
Matthew Holliday
December 2, 2014 at 10:48
http://i.imgur.com/jFVsVix.jpg
Ryanza
December 2, 2014 at 10:51
I don’t like DRM. I don’t support DRM.
http://img.bhs4.com/d9/9/d99968f88ec7f21eb34c7806567c210f0d2513f4_large.jpg
Bender
December 2, 2014 at 22:48
The logic of crack cocaine ladies and gentlemen.
Ryanza
December 3, 2014 at 16:36
Let me not comment on this type of shit. Ok let me say this, go make your own damn comments instead of replying to other peoples comments.
Liquidacid
December 4, 2014 at 03:18
DRM = segregation is the type of logic that will even make a crackhead laugh at how dumb you are if you say it to them
The answer is no.
December 4, 2014 at 04:58
Can everybody with a PC buy and play PC games?
Liquidacid
December 4, 2014 at 05:07
yes actually they can
PC + Browser + Internet + ....
December 4, 2014 at 05:13
PC + internet + DRM Client + PC game + patch = Play the game
PC + The Witcher 3 = Play the game.
Two groups of people.
Liquidacid
December 4, 2014 at 05:16
that’s not segregation that’s differing requirements… your argument is akin to saying not giving everyone an Olympic gold medal is segregation because it creates 2 groups… those who win one and those who don’t
it’s retarded
Separate for the Gold
December 4, 2014 at 05:24
Wow . DRM = winning Olympic gold medal. All runners have access to the track to run for gold. Equal ground and access.
How many times do I have to say the same damn thing. Separate. 2 people have computers. One person has internet and the other one doesn’t. Separate. The one person can play PC game. The other can’t. Separate. They both have PC but they both can’t play PC game. Separate.
Liquidacid
December 4, 2014 at 05:31
so everyone in the world has access to the Olympic track to win a gold medal? no only those who meant the qualifications do… just like only those who are willing to meet the qualifications to run a piece of software can
using your logic that also means The Witcher 3 = segregation because it requires a PC to play therefor creates 2 groups… those with a PC and those without one… oh even if both people have a PC it requires hardware of a certain power to run therefor even if 2 people have PCs it still creates 2 groups… those with a powerful enough PC and those without… IT”S SEGREGATION!!! lmao
your inability to understand a basic analogy or simple logic is amazing
Honestly I’m not a fan of DRM but your arguments and points are just so mindbogglingly stupid it’s surreal
Special Olympics
December 4, 2014 at 05:34
Meeting requirements for the Olympics = CPU, GPU, RAM.
Requirements for DRM = Special Olympics.
Liquidacid
December 4, 2014 at 05:41
not having an internet connection is no different than not having a fast enough CPU, a powerful enough GPU, enough ram or even having a computer at all… internet access is just one of the requirements you have to meet to use that specific piece of software… if you don’t have them that’s not them segregating people that’s you failing to meet the basic requirements to do what you want to
again by your logic everything from having a PC, to having the right PC components, to electricity or a job to buy said things would make ALL Games = segregation because they separate people into groups of those with and without them
the only thing here that meets the requirements for you special Olympics is you… as is demonstrated every time you have made a post
I am SAM
December 4, 2014 at 05:49
Internet is not needed to play a PC game. Internet is needed for DRM. So DRM needs to fuck off.
As it stands there are millions of people who can’t buy PC games because of internet. So the DRM is cutting off millions of PC gamers from buying and playing PC games.
Liquidacid
December 4, 2014 at 05:57
Internet IS needed to play some PC games (MMOs for example or the MP of almost every game)… games being made that require an Internet connection is no different than them being made to require a certain speed processor… as it stands there are millions of people who can’t play PC games because they don’t have a computer, or the gaming hardware needed, or a job to afford them, or a house with electricity
so Computers themselves, jobs, PC hardware, electricity and housing are all also cutting off millions of people from buying and playing PC games
again a game requiring the internet is no different than all the other requirements that are needed to play… that’s not segregation that’s simply you choosing to not get or do what you need to meet the basic requirements to use them
Electricity
December 4, 2014 at 06:38
This has gotten so far off course. Electricity. The original sentiment was DRM = segregation. So what does DRM implicate. Electricity. lol.
I guess if you buy a PC in 2014, it comes with internet, a job and electricity. lol.
Fuck. I meet all the requirements (electricity) and I don’t buy PC games just because of DRM. Take DRM away and I would buy most of these big releases.
And then you get people who has electricity and the powerful PC who just can’t get cheap uncapped internet, who wants to buy PC games and can’t. But fuck those people. Just get with the internet or fuck off.
DRM is not the problem. Electricity is.
Liquidacid
December 4, 2014 at 06:46
Hey I’m just using your logic… not my fault it’s retarded
Well at least it’s been amusing watching your downward spiral of stupidity
Let's get Retarded in Here
December 4, 2014 at 06:55
You know when people start name calling on the internet it shows something about that person. I don’t recall speaking to you in that way. I just asked if all PC users can buy and play PC games. You said yes but if a PC user doesn’t have internet then the answer is no.
Ryanza
December 4, 2014 at 08:09
What shit storm as my comment made. If you know me, I like to make extreme, out there comments. Long ago I used segregation to explain DRM. No shit storm then. Yes DRM is not on the same level as racial segregation but it’s an extreme comment to show the severity of DRM.
Don’t support DRM. Is that simple enough for you.
Kromas, Guardian of Cenarius
December 2, 2014 at 10:16
DRM on top of DRM. Sounds like the Chines like DRM cakez! Dericious!
Brady miaau
December 2, 2014 at 10:34
Hi. time to weigh in.
Take commercial software, say a Point of Sale System. It needs some sort of DRM system in place to protect both the system and the clients using the system. Unauthorised use is called fraud and damages everybody. Extreme efforts are made to ensure that the DRM is as unobtrusive as possible and sometimes works on a token basis, i.e. you can function offline for period X or X number of activities or something like that.
I do not know how Steam or Origin or whatever handles DRM for games.
Alien Emperor Trevor
December 2, 2014 at 10:46
When it comes to games a DRM system is a PoS system, just with a different definition of the acronym. 😉
Brady miaau
December 2, 2014 at 10:58
Hmm.
When I buy Adobe Photoshop, I pay a license fee for that. Some sort of DRM system enables it to work on my system. Microsoft Office, Windows all activate on-line, to get permission to work. Is that not DRM as well?
I, in the product development field, want to protect my product as long as possible. It costs a fortune to develop new product, software, engineers, electronics, prototypes and all that jazz. Why should I create something that can be easily stolen?
I know, I know, I am going to be told that all the stats support the fact that enough people buy PC games that if all DRM is removed, the developers would still make their money. I am not so sure. the triple A games, sure. But some of the smaller titles. How many people pirate a game, find out its sort of ok, not earth shattering and then never buy it? Why should people be able to use a product that they did not pay for and then never pay for it?
Yes, yes, the quality of the game is the problem, but people still tried it out before they decided, which is a whole other kettle of fish.
Ok, now hear this: I DO NOT SUPPORT DRM at all. I do think we need to protect the products, but the way they go about it does seem a problem .I remember I could not play Battle for Middle Earth 2 until I got a new CD rom drive, for example. That sucked.
What about a game renting service? Lots of bandwidth and internet, but I pay a fraction of the retail price for 2 days with the game. After two days, I can decide to purchase full price or have it removed from my system.
Alien Emperor Trevor
December 2, 2014 at 11:04
I just wanted to make the PoS acronym joke :/
Brady miaau
December 2, 2014 at 11:09
Well, I just wanted a small rant. So there!
So we both get what we want, win win.
Raptor Rants A Lot
December 2, 2014 at 11:10
A small rant???? No such thing!
Alien Emperor Trevor
December 2, 2014 at 11:27
I don’t have a problem with DRM as a copy protection measure. If it’s simple, unobtrusive, and has no real impact on your usage of the product – great. Entering a serial key or linking a product to an account is nothing. The problem I have is when that DRM, which does not benefit you the consumer in any way – it’s purely for the benefit of the company you bought it from, actively affects your usage of the product you’ve bought. Like uPlay and it’s regular failures.
I think DRM has become less a means of preventing piracy, which was its original intent, and more a means of controlling your access to your content completely.
Kromas, Guardian of Cenarius
December 2, 2014 at 11:44
Like I said DRM is needed to protect both parties. DRM implementation however is horrible and designed by what I can only think of as people who took a 2 day programming course (and failed at design).
Kromas, Guardian of Cenarius
December 2, 2014 at 11:41
I support DRM. It is DRM implementation that I do not support.
Same as with our roads. I support paying for the roads but I do not support paying for our roads …. and new houses for government officials …. and the rest of the countries pension funds that mysteriously went empty …. and for a piece of crap system that essentially uses R1 for every R10 payed on the roads and “loses” the other R9.
Brady miaau
December 2, 2014 at 12:51
Nah, I only said I DO NOT SUPPORT DRM at all because the word DRM has changed meaning from the old days to now mean something more than a simple copy protection scheme
Raptor Rants A Lot
December 2, 2014 at 11:05
A key links the game to your account. The account is managed on Steam servers. You have a 2 week token to be offline with Steam at which point you just need to log on and re-auth your steam account (I am not sure if the 2 week auth system is even in place anymore though)
Brady miaau
December 2, 2014 at 11:09
I think the two week (or however long, no clue) token works on Steam, cause I can play offline on my laptop, which I only reboot once a month.
Raptor Rants A Lot
December 2, 2014 at 11:10
That’s why I said I’m not even sure if they force you to relink every 2 weeks. I think it’s indefinate now because I’ve heard people say they can go a month offline on steam and more
Ryanza
December 2, 2014 at 10:43
What does it mean to not have DRM on retail products. As it stands not everyone who has a PC can buy and play PC games. Only PC users with internet can buy and play PC games. Not having DRM means that PC games has to be complete and thoroughly checked for bugs before it can be released.
Only when full DRM hits consoles is when there will be a serious reaction and fight against DRM. The gaming industry crash. Next gen of consoles.
Anyway not going to go into detail. Fuck DRM.
Don’t support DRM.
Raptor Rants A Lot
December 2, 2014 at 11:07
That Ryanza tag hehehehe.
Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)
December 2, 2014 at 11:14
Open the flood gates?
Alien Emperor Trevor
December 2, 2014 at 11:29
#DRMDamGate!
Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)
December 2, 2014 at 11:33
#DRMLEAKYFAUCETGATE
Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)
December 2, 2014 at 11:14
Open the flood gates?
Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)
December 2, 2014 at 11:16
Wait for it, now we’re going to get DRM for DRM that protects the DRM!
Kromas, Guardian of Cenarius
December 2, 2014 at 11:46
Nope … that will be DLC to add more DRM for DRM that protects DRM.
At least it will be a free DLC (Unless EA). 😛
Greylingad
December 2, 2014 at 13:24
I don’t think that this problem would be resolved until publishers implement a hardware crypto module into the distribution of their games, you see, when you use a software crypto solution it becomes resource hungry, whereas if you use a hardware module it’s a lot harder to firstly break the encryption and secondly intercept the data, but the costs involved would skyrocket, exponentially….
AliceEngine
December 2, 2014 at 13:53
Great, maybe people will now actually talk about LotF instead of letting discussions always devolve into Denuvo whinery.
Jackie
December 2, 2014 at 16:00
You go guys! By greed is was made, and by freedom it was unmade! will over look two made in china product rips offs, to celebrate!
Ryanza
December 2, 2014 at 23:03
Still don’t know why I am gonna explode. It’s not like it’s No DRM news. If EA and Ubisoft starts releasing PC games at retail with no fucking DRM then:
https://38.media.tumblr.com/f6e478197208dfa7b6f480761c34e0c9/tumblr_ms49w4tarp1sv551qo1_500.gif
baizen
December 2, 2014 at 23:07
FIFA 15 is still uncracked and sales are barely higher than those of FIFA 14. Lords of the Fallen doesn’t have great sales either. Dragon Age: Inquisition sales haven’t been spectacular either compared to other massive AAA titles. So where is this supposed massive damage that piracy does to the video game industry? Most of those who pirate either pirate it or just dont play the game overall, so it’s not a lost sale since it wasn’t going to happen anyways
Ghost In The Rift
December 3, 2014 at 00:19
This is really bad,if it ends up in full pirate circulation then mass effect 4 has a less chance getting a pc release:-(
(*)SoulCaliber(*)
December 4, 2014 at 16:39
Every ME game has been release for the pc though, so I don’t understand.
deadtrooper
December 3, 2014 at 11:51
is this story true?
Atheist
December 3, 2014 at 17:00
It’s about time 🙂 Well done.
Thank you.
mazabdul
December 3, 2014 at 18:07
Yeah this looks pretty fake. It’s from 3DM, which is full of shit for the most part.
snakeeye
December 3, 2014 at 20:49
http://hackindustry.com/dragon-age-inquisition-key-generator-2014/
Blaithe
December 4, 2014 at 01:00
Wow can’t beleive people would put so much effort into this when they could use there skills for a job :/
Mohammed Ismail
December 4, 2014 at 14:49
Great!!!
(*)SoulCaliber(*)
December 4, 2014 at 16:37
Where is all the people who said this was the definitive DRM at?
deadtrooper7777
December 5, 2014 at 06:19
viva la revolucion!
disqus_rybrjIFQ9F
December 5, 2014 at 07:57
Is this legit?
CTN
December 5, 2014 at 13:20
I live in South Africa and if you purchase DAI, they still expect you to download it. With our expensive bandwidth, that’s like paying for it twice. I asked them to zero rate downloads in my country, but they’ve ignored me. So I’m waiting for it to be cracked. If they were at least to reduce the price for those who have to download it, I’d buy it, but they’re not giving an inch.
Y- nZ
December 6, 2014 at 08:30
“A group of Chinese hackers who really want to play Dragon Age but don’t want to pay for games has undone Denuvo”
Well, if they are not selling the game for 69.90 USD on SEA country which equal to 1/3 or even 1/2 of their monthly standard wage, they won’t even need crack. While they sold this game on RUSSIAN, Ukraine, for only for only 30 USD.
Don’t blame Asian for making the largest piracy target. The publisher itself force them to.
KD
December 7, 2014 at 05:58
Anyone cracked FIFA yet?
lamps8
December 8, 2014 at 02:16
so when the crack fifa 15 will be out?
jolli
December 9, 2014 at 00:27
I don’t believe, still no denuvo drm games crack on the internet…
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allev
December 9, 2014 at 12:38
hi everyone im from malaysia. 1 dvd game was like RM220 it can feed my self and my family for a half month. im tired of waiting for crack 🙁 and it even worst when i downloaded Pes 2015 i got lag on my pc if i turn on the V-synce on nvidia it have an input lag, so im thinking about upgrade my cpu or buying a ps4/xbox one? any suggestion? my cpu rig now – Amd athlon 2 II X2 260 processor / 4gb ram / 1920 x 1080, 60hz, Nvidia Geforce GT 630 2GB. Please help me i really wan to play Dragon Age : Inquisition its okay if i have to buy the original dvd but should i play on pc or xbox or ps4 ?
wicked world
December 14, 2014 at 23:35
get ps4.
xbox slightly less power.
your pc is too old, sorry friend.
dd
December 9, 2014 at 22:35
Article written without proof or facts. Trash.. it was debunked and no crack insight.
Mariano
December 11, 2014 at 13:57
“don’t want to pay for games” that is an unbiased accusation and it’s FALSE. They can’t buy DAI in chine because is not allowed by the government in that country. Like GTA V on Australia.
Bullshit article.
Sevic
December 12, 2014 at 09:01
It’s nothing like GTA V here in Australia as the government has not banned the game, it’s just two non-video game centric retailers have decided to stop selling it due to idiots complaining about the game despite it having an R rating and this coming after over a year of it being available from said retailers. But as I said this is just two retailers which are general department stores and there are other retailers out there, including stores dedicated to video games, from which the game is most definitely still available from.
Vasile
December 12, 2014 at 03:17
Hey guys I found Fifa 15 cracked by 3DM GAME
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Mark Treloar
December 12, 2014 at 05:14
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james
January 15, 2015 at 15:35
bullshit site.. just obvious spam and shit and advertisment.. glad I had adblock
Kehool
December 13, 2014 at 23:22
“I suppose for publishers, that month or two of uncracked games was worth
it in their eyes, even though sales of FIFA 15 on PC aren’t
significantly higher than 14’s.”
Not much point in comparing FIFA 14 to FIFA 15 since FIFA 14 was already protected by Denuvo and has been cracked after roughly 1 and a half months (confirmed by the Denuvo developer site if you take a look at it in the waybackmachine)
Brandt Mackay
December 15, 2014 at 20:35
DRM’s for pussies.
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CHUCK NORRIS
December 23, 2014 at 15:10
Anything a man makes, a man can destroy.
Seryoga93
December 25, 2014 at 04:06
Why should consumers pay for games, while they can get it for free?! There is no logic in your “wisdom”, my friend!
Piracy sucks?! Try working for 10 euros a day… Piracy exsist, because some of us have money only for food and bills.
Your goverment sucks for makeing piracy illegal. You suck for supporting that law.
If Denovo is truly hacked, then this is a day for remembering!
Frank Castle
December 28, 2014 at 03:53
None of the cracks work
slade
December 31, 2014 at 13:26
why then FIFA 15 hasn’t been cracked yet?
so there is no posibility that GTA 5 will be cracked.
Frank Castle
January 2, 2015 at 01:48
None of the cracks work, tried them all. just wait a year or 2 and you will be able to get the game for $10 new, no game is worth $60 or more.
Frank Castle
January 2, 2015 at 21:09
None
of the cracks work, i tried all of them, downloaded 3 versions of the
game and tried over 20 times following all the different instructions
all i get is origin screen. denuvo is unbreakable drm. the day of free
games is over, all good games will now have this to stop pirates.
Tuminure
January 3, 2015 at 16:02
Thanks god you are wrong. 3DM version of DA:I works perfectly.
acrodite
January 14, 2015 at 06:48
Hey so games like not cracked what about them does it mean they will be crack in the near future
Roger
April 1, 2015 at 22:40
this piracy crap is giving me a headache people should just stop with this i personally buy games but drms like denuvo deserve to be cracked cuz of bad reb and these days you can buy cheap games like in this site where there is some good prices https://www.g2a.com/r/mbc312
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April 4, 2015 at 18:11
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if you wanna support the developers behind the witcher 3 aka cdprojekt red who put there trust in the modern gamer by releasing a DRM free game which is something that is done by few developers these days, so again if you want to show your appreciation other than empty words you should show it financially by buying the game and the best prices i know of for people living outside the US are in here: https://www.g2a.com/r/mbc312
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September 1, 2015 at 20:32
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