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Has Valve secretly released Source 2?

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Valve’s Dota 2 just had a new set of workshop tools released, and there seems to be something different about them. So different, that some are claiming that the tools are actually part of Valve’s fabled Source 2 Engine.

“Everything in this package is a new game,” wrote RoyAwesome on the Dota 2 subReddit. “It’s all the Dota assets and code ported over to Source 2. That’s why Hammer is different. That’s why the console is different.”

Hammer is the name of the Source-based map creation program within the tools – and its so different from what was available before that all signs point to it being based on a new version of Source.

“The general consensus around the Source reverse engineering community is that this is really Source 2,” RoyAwesome said, adding that “Everything that would share a name with Source is named ‘…2’. That’s ‘engine2.dll’, ‘vconsole2.exe’, ‘vphysics2.dll’.

That script also allows for different dlls to load and render different assets (vmaps are rendered by worldrenderer.dll, etc). This is a completely new architecture from Valves previous system. This bit alone would indicate a significant amount of engine work has been done to split these bits out of the engine and into their own libraries. That means the engine is also completely plug-and-play with new engine level components if valve creates them for different games. This is pretty freaking huge.

Is it Source 2? Probably. Does that really mean anything? Ricochet 2? Left 4 Dead 3? That other game?

Last Updated: August 7, 2014

59 Comments

  1. Jonah Cash

    August 7, 2014 at 13:04

    Can we please rather go back to a Destiny overload and skip these Dota 2 stuff…..
    *runs*

    Reply

    • Rince

      August 7, 2014 at 13:08

      Runs with*

      Reply

    • Admiral Chief Dovahkiin

      August 7, 2014 at 13:09

      A moving target. Eeeeeeeeeexcellent….

      Reply

    • Alien Emperor Trevor

      August 7, 2014 at 13:14

      Fun fact: Skipping is the default mode of locomotion for Dota players.

      Disclaimer: This may or may not be true.

      Reply

      • Sith JJ

        August 7, 2014 at 13:17

        Is that your disclaimer to everything you tell people?

        Reply

        • Alien Emperor Trevor

          August 7, 2014 at 13:18

          I don’t have time to fact check everything I say.

          Reply

          • Sith JJ

            August 7, 2014 at 13:18

            LOOOOOL

          • Admiral Chief Dovahkiin

            August 7, 2014 at 13:20

            That may or may not be true

          • Sith JJ

            August 7, 2014 at 13:22

            Like Rince having been created in a lab?

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            August 7, 2014 at 13:26

            I heard from a reliable source that’s definitely true.

          • Sith JJ

            August 7, 2014 at 13:27

            I believe you, without question. The signs are there after all.

      • z1n

        August 7, 2014 at 14:22

        Only as long as you stay near the trees!

        Reply

    • Joe Black

      August 7, 2014 at 13:45

      Accurately lobs an avocado at your head at 50 paces.

      Reply

      • Admiral Chief Dovahkiin

        August 7, 2014 at 13:46

        BOOOOM melonshot!

        Reply

      • Jonah Cash

        August 7, 2014 at 13:47

        I played dodge ball in my youth…. I can surely dodge an avocado!!!

        Reply

        • Joe Black

          August 7, 2014 at 13:55

          Tilk would get you.

          Reply

  2. Jonah Cash

    August 7, 2014 at 13:04

    Can we please rather go back to a Destiny overload and skip these Dota 2 stuff…..
    *runs*

    Reply

    • Rince

      August 7, 2014 at 13:08

      Runs with*

      Reply

    • Admiral Chief Dovahkiin

      August 7, 2014 at 13:09

      A moving target. Eeeeeeeeeexcellent….

      Reply

    • Alien Emperor Trevor

      August 7, 2014 at 13:14

      Fun fact: Skipping is the default mode of locomotion for Dota players.

      Disclaimer: This may or may not be true.

      Reply

      • Sith JJ

        August 7, 2014 at 13:17

        Is that your disclaimer to everything you tell people?

        Reply

        • Alien Emperor Trevor

          August 7, 2014 at 13:18

          I don’t have time to fact check everything I say.

          Reply

          • Sith JJ

            August 7, 2014 at 13:18

            LOOOOOL

          • Admiral Chief Dovahkiin

            August 7, 2014 at 13:20

            That may or may not be true

          • Sith JJ

            August 7, 2014 at 13:22

            Like Rince having been created in a lab?

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            August 7, 2014 at 13:26

            I heard from a reliable source that’s definitely true.

          • Sith JJ

            August 7, 2014 at 13:27

            I believe you, without question. The signs are there after all.

      • z1n

        August 7, 2014 at 14:22

        Only as long as you stay near the trees!

        Reply

    • Joe Black

      August 7, 2014 at 13:45

      Accurately lobs an avocado at your head at 50 paces.

      Reply

      • Admiral Chief Dovahkiin

        August 7, 2014 at 13:46

        BOOOOM melonshot!

        Reply

      • Jonah Cash

        August 7, 2014 at 13:47

        I played dodge ball in my youth…. I can surely dodge an avocado!!!

        Reply

        • Joe Black

          August 7, 2014 at 13:55

          Tilk would get you.

          Reply

  3. Alien Emperor Trevor

    August 7, 2014 at 13:05

    Does that make it SECRET SAUCE?

    Reply

    • Admiral Chief Dovahkiin

      August 7, 2014 at 13:06

      So spice! So spice!

      Reply

  4. Alien Emperor Trevor

    August 7, 2014 at 13:05

    Does that make it SECRET SAUCE?

    Reply

    • Admiral Chief Dovahkiin

      August 7, 2014 at 13:06

      So spice! So spice!

      Reply

  5. Sith JJ

    August 7, 2014 at 13:08

    Three dials on that clock
    Half Life 3 confirmed

    Reply

    • SargonTheGreatPandaOfAkkad

      August 7, 2014 at 14:17

      “Next Month” on the clock is September, which is the 9th month of the year. “Next week” is the 2nd week of August. “Today” is the 7th day of the month. There are 3 dials on the clock.

      9 – 7 = 2
      2 + 3 = 5
      5 – 2 = 3

      Half Life 3 confirmed twice.

      Reply

  6. Admiral Chief Dovahkiin

    August 7, 2014 at 13:08

    • Sith JJ

      August 7, 2014 at 13:09

      So it’s a Flash Drive that makes a lot of noise but doesn’t provide much space?

      Reply

      • Admiral Chief Dovahkiin

        August 7, 2014 at 13:10

        Also able to be drop-kicked like a baws

        Reply

    • Alien Emperor Trevor

      August 7, 2014 at 13:16

      Hope it’s house trained.

      Reply

  7. Sith JJ

    August 7, 2014 at 13:08

    Three dials on that clock
    Half Life 3 confirmed

    Reply

    • SargonTheGreatPandaOfAkkad

      August 7, 2014 at 14:17

      “Next Month” on the clock is September, which is the 9th month of the year. “Next week” is the 2nd week of August. “Today” is the 7th day of the month. There are 3 dials on the clock.

      9 – 7 = 2
      2 + 3 = 5
      5 – 2 = 3

      Half Life 3 confirmed twice.

      Reply

      • Sith JJ

        August 8, 2014 at 11:13

        You just blew this case wide open!

        Reply

  8. Admiral Chief Dovahkiin

    August 7, 2014 at 13:08

    • Sith JJ

      August 7, 2014 at 13:09

      So it’s a Flash Drive that makes a lot of noise but doesn’t provide much space?

      Reply

      • Admiral Chief Dovahkiin

        August 7, 2014 at 13:10

        Also able to be drop-kicked like a baws

        Reply

    • Alien Emperor Trevor

      August 7, 2014 at 13:16

      Hope it’s house trained.

      Reply

  9. Rince

    August 7, 2014 at 13:12

  10. Rince

    August 7, 2014 at 13:12

  11. Joe Black

    August 7, 2014 at 13:58

    I just hope there’s a new Halflife and Portal on the way then

    Reply

  12. Joe Black

    August 7, 2014 at 13:58

    I just hope there’s a new Halflife and Portal on the way then

    Reply

  13. Praise Lord GabeN

    August 7, 2014 at 14:01

    If you can’t trust someone named RoyAwesome then who really can you trust?

    Reply

  14. Praise Lord GabeN

    August 7, 2014 at 14:01

    If you can’t trust someone named RoyAwesome then who really can you trust?

    Reply

  15. Sir Rants A Lot Llew

    August 7, 2014 at 17:26

    lol. Love the tags

    Reply

  16. Sir Rants A Lot Llew

    August 7, 2014 at 17:26

    lol. Love the tags

    Reply

  17. CypherGate

    August 7, 2014 at 17:36

    Ill most probably get hacked and slashed for this, but i dont find DOTA or WOW interesting at all. I dont understand why its such popular games. Tried them and just didnt enjoy them at all. Am I missing something here?

    Reply

  18. CypherGate

    August 7, 2014 at 17:36

    Ill most probably get hacked and slashed for this, but i dont find DOTA or WOW interesting at all. I dont understand why its such popular games. Tried them and just didnt enjoy them at all. Am I missing something here?

    Reply

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