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BioShock is coming back…one day

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BioShock Infinite, I felt, provided closure on the entire series. That closure was fortified with Ken Levine shutting down  his studio, Irrational Games. Still, as one of the more popular and best selling franchise of the last generation, 2K games parent Take-Two would be stupid to just give up on the brand. They’re not stupid.

According to Take-Two’s Strauss Zelnick, the future of BioShock will be in 2K Marin’s hands. Asked by Gamespot about the future of the series and its commercial potential.

“We haven’t given any color on how you should think about it yet except we do believe it’s beloved; we think it’s important [and] certainly something that we’re focused on; something 2K Marin will be responsible for shepherding going forward.

I don’t want to say much else except to agree with you. I think there’s a lot of upside in that franchise,” Zelnick said. “It hasn’t necessarily been realized yet. And the question for the future, assuming we decide to answer the question, would be ‘How do you stay true to that creatively?’; ‘How do you do something exciting?’; and ‘How do you do expand the market?’. That would be the natural drill. We’re starting from a good point on it. And certainly it’s been a great piece of business for us; it’s been a profitable piece of business.”

2K Marin was responsible for BioShock 2, which other than the shoe-horned multiplayer and the recycled setting of Rapture, was actually excellent. It subverted BioShock’s main themes, giving a whole new experience within the same setting. It’s a game that just doesn’t get the respect it deserves. while I’m not sure I want more BioShock, I am certain it’s in the right hands.

Unfortunately, BioShock 2’s creative director and the team behind the excellent BioShock 2 DLC Minerva’s Den have left 2K, off to do their own thing. They were essentially the people responsible for Gone Home.

Last Updated: May 30, 2014

70 Comments

  1. Sir Rants A Lot Llew. Jelly!!!

    May 30, 2014 at 08:32

    “…shutting down the his studio”

    Heh. Two differant trrains of thought there for how the sentence was supposed to read bud?

    Reply

    • Exalted Overlord Geoffrey Tim

      May 30, 2014 at 08:49

      MOAR COFFEE.

      Reply

      • Sir Rants A Lot Llew. Jelly!!!

        May 30, 2014 at 08:52

        YAR!!!! (wait… that’s for moar rum… apologies)

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      • HisDivineOrder

        May 30, 2014 at 14:21

        Now you have an extra space in there.

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    • Admiral Chief in Space

      May 30, 2014 at 08:57

      *trains

      Or is it a s s s stutter trrain?

      Reply

      • Sir Rants A Lot Llew. Jelly!!!

        May 30, 2014 at 09:00

        fu-fu-fu-fu-funny how I messed that up after pointing out Geoff’s mistake hey?

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        • Alien Emperor Trevor

          May 30, 2014 at 09:08

          I gave you the benefit of the doubt that it was deliberate… different *cough*

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    • Weanerdog

      May 30, 2014 at 09:03

      That’s a lot of RR’s in trains, is it talk like a pirate day already.

      Reply

      • Sir Rants A Lot Llew. Jelly!!!

        May 30, 2014 at 09:06

        mmmm. We haven’t had one of those in a while. What say ye @Admiral Chief in Space:disqus? Arrrrrr we gonna be pirates this day?

        Reply

        • Admiral Chief in Space

          May 30, 2014 at 09:19

          AVAST TODAY BE THAR DAY

          Reply

  2. Sir Rants A Lot Llew. Jelly!!!

    May 30, 2014 at 08:35

    Mmmmm. I don’t know. I think Bioshock has run its course.

    It came round full circle and I don’t see how one could have another game within the setting of Rapture or Columbia. I’d be very careful with this. It has the potential to seriously backfire by creating another Bioshock game

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  3. Alien Emperor Trevor

    May 30, 2014 at 08:38

    Bioshock Infinite is next in line to play. Quite looking forward to see if it lives up to the hype.

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    • RinceofFuturePast

      May 30, 2014 at 08:46

      Awesome game mate. Really enjoyed the story.

      Reply

    • Admiral Chief in Space

      May 30, 2014 at 08:47

      I might jam that tonight seeing as WD is a bust 🙁

      Reply

      • Kromas

        May 30, 2014 at 08:48

        Hoping you did not forget about the event tonight.

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        • Admiral Chief in Space

          May 30, 2014 at 08:48

          Oh snap, yeah, lets do that!

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          • Kromas

            May 30, 2014 at 08:49

            Yeah I already forgot. Got invited to go watch Maleficent and now I am not sure.

          • Admiral Chief in Space

            May 30, 2014 at 08:50

            I’m scheduling the Steam event as we speak

        • Sir Rants A Lot Llew. Jelly!!!

          May 30, 2014 at 08:52

          I’m out of cap on my 3G!

          *Cries uncontrollably*

          Reply

          • Admiral Chief in Space

            May 30, 2014 at 08:56

            Wanna borrow mine for tonight?

          • Sir Rants A Lot Llew. Jelly!!!

            May 30, 2014 at 08:57

            server move tonight as well *cries harder*

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            May 30, 2014 at 09:07

            So your cap isn’t iconic?

          • RinceofFuturePast

            May 30, 2014 at 09:09

            How ironic 0-O

          • Sir Rants A Lot Llew. Jelly!!!

            May 30, 2014 at 09:10

            ouch

      • Alien Emperor Trevor

        May 30, 2014 at 09:07

        Not run or still updating?

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        • Admiral Chief in Space

          May 30, 2014 at 09:18

          It runs, poorly

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    • Hammersteyn

      May 30, 2014 at 08:52

      Were you waiting for a price drop? All I am going to say is fortunately you don’t need to babysit Elizabeth which is good. The graphics should be glorious on PC.

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      • Sir Rants A Lot Llew. Jelly!!!

        May 30, 2014 at 08:52

        They are

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        • Hammersteyn

          May 30, 2014 at 08:54

          Wasn’t bad on PS3, can only imagine what it could have looked liked on PS4

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          • Sir Rants A Lot Llew. Jelly!!!

            May 30, 2014 at 08:56

            Yeah I reckon it would have looked epic on the PS4

          • Hammersteyn

            May 30, 2014 at 08:58

            Tomb Raider was testament to that. Still have it installed and I reckon I will play it again some day. It’s funny. For every AAA title installed I have maybe two indie games on the PS4

          • Sir Rants A Lot Llew. Jelly!!!

            May 30, 2014 at 08:59

            Good AAA titles are very rare in this day and age.

          • Hammersteyn

            May 30, 2014 at 09:17

            Any good AAA titles are rare on the PS4. This weekend Im locking myself in the house. Gonna get my Wolf and my Dog on

      • RinceofFuturePast

        May 30, 2014 at 08:55

        Elizabeth, man, what a character! So frigging amazing, dem eyes!

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        • Hammersteyn

          May 30, 2014 at 08:57

          She’s mine! Step away from the girl!

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          • RinceofFuturePast

            May 30, 2014 at 09:04

            Neva! *Readies weapons

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            May 30, 2014 at 09:12

            You can’t have all the female video game characters, they’re not Pokemons.

          • RinceofFuturePast

            May 30, 2014 at 09:20

            They will be when I get hold of em!

      • Alien Emperor Trevor

        May 30, 2014 at 09:05

        Yes, got it over the last Xmas sale.

        Reply

  4. RinceofFuturePast

    May 30, 2014 at 08:45

    I thought Geoff was supposed to start every article about Bioshock with “Many thought Infinite was amazing, I thought it was a regular shooter and can’t compete with the first”? I feel cheated…

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    • Alien Emperor Trevor

      May 30, 2014 at 09:06

      I bet he wishes he could go back & change his initial review score. trollol.

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      • RinceofFuturePast

        May 30, 2014 at 09:07

        Eish!

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      • Exalted Overlord Geoffrey Tim

        May 30, 2014 at 09:15

        I didn’t review Bioshock infinite. I’d have given it an 80.

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        • Alien Emperor Trevor

          May 30, 2014 at 09:29

          An 80? So it’s average? 😉

          Reply

  5. Admiral Chief in Space

    May 30, 2014 at 08:47

    SYSTEM SHOCK HD!!!!!

    Reply

  6. Delano

    May 30, 2014 at 08:53

    Yep, I thought Minerva’s Den had a better story than the original game, though it was unfortunately too short. Out of the entire series, Charles Porter is perhaps the only character who is truly likeable.

    There’s a lot of loose threads and possibilities for expansion; what happened to The Thinker? Was Rapture ever discovered in the following years? You can already see a potential story develop where Rapture’s ruins are discovered in the 90’s, a team is sent to investigate and they discover the spilcers have evolved and mutated further over the decades.

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    • Hammersteyn

      May 30, 2014 at 08:55

      My mind was totally blown near the end of the game. I had to read up on the plot at Wikipedia to make sense of it all.

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  7. oVgeeeeee Comet Drop

    May 30, 2014 at 08:56

    RAAAAAANT INCOMING
    I look forward to the day when all FPS games stay in the past. BORING SHHOT FEST.

    AIM (AUTO LOCK FOR MOST) SHOOOOOOOOT, RELOAD rince repeat. ZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    The FPS game is lazy and was only created in the 90s as a demo before coding a CHARACTER in. But alas they found out that the frame rate was better and production halved by not making a PROTAG to ride along with.

    I HATE FPS GAMES and as a NEW SONY FANBOY I will even go as far to say that KILLZONE can suck my lollipop.

    NO mattare how stunning the art direction was in Infinite, its still a fcking boring shooter.

    RANT NEEDS RELOADING.

    P.S. WHY THE FUCK DO THE ROUNDS IN A MAG NOT VANISH WHEN CHANGING MAGS??????

    Shoot 2 round in a 30 round mag and reload in real life and you have just wasted 28.
    JUST SAYING.

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    • Admiral Chief in Space

      May 30, 2014 at 08:58

      In the old rainbow six games and ghost recon games, you “swapped mags” instead of reload.

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    • Sir Rants A Lot Llew. Jelly!!!

      May 30, 2014 at 08:58

      “RANT NEEDS RELOADING.” <– This absolutely killed me hahahahaha

      Reply

    • RinceofFuturePast

      May 30, 2014 at 09:06

      COFFEE, STAT! And agreed, over the shoulder FTW

      Reply

    • Alien Emperor Trevor

      May 30, 2014 at 09:10

      I thought you enjoyed the story?

      Reply

      • oVgeeeeee Comet Drop

        May 30, 2014 at 09:15

        Exactly, THE story. Not MY story that is inhanced when taking MYSELF out of the real world and placing it on the shoulders of a CHARACTER that one can SEE in third person.

        At least BETHESDA knows this and gave us a third person view. ALSO… nothing wrong with staring at female Sheperds ASS for 90hours 😉

        Imaging if Mass Effect was an FPS 🙁

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        • Alien Emperor Trevor

          May 30, 2014 at 09:42

          It’s never your story, only your character. You still follow the story. I don’t have to see my character to feel connected to him/her.

          Otherwise my Shepard would have settled down on Eden Prime & become the galaxy’s foremost line dancing expert & ignored the whole Reaper nonsense. Then the ass watching would be epic 😀

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          • oVgeeeeee Comet Drop

            May 30, 2014 at 15:10

            The Mass Effect story is actually about Space Hamster.

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            May 30, 2014 at 20:13

  8. Weanerdog

    May 30, 2014 at 09:06

    I am always curious when someone says “which direction” it means that they are aware that is is done, but now how to milk it. I would love to see the brainstroming on this one, bet first two out the bag are prequel and RPG (or both).

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  9. Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

    May 30, 2014 at 09:44

    Please no, I liked the original bioshock, Infinite was a little lacklustre and the second one was ok, but this is one of those titles that doesn’t need to be revisited. It did it’s job, it was mesmerising. It had a marvelous and confusing universe with interesting characters. Otherwise, if they revisit it, it’ll be like that second season of Heroes or every single season of Lost after the first one, just a sticky mess of meh!

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    • Hammersteyn

      May 30, 2014 at 09:45

      Missed your insight a lot, were you kidnapped or something?

      Reply

      • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

        May 30, 2014 at 09:52

        Sigh! Work man.. work! It’s exam time, and prior to that I was busy with a postgrad workshops, a fieldtrip and setting my damn paper… like a noob. 🙁

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  10. Biran53

    May 30, 2014 at 12:23

    Have something that is creative, original, and true to the Shock feel, and then we’ll talk.
    Do I believe there is potential for a great revitalizing of the series? Of course.
    Do I also believe that it could go terribly wrong? Yoooooou bet.

    Infinite (and it’s DLC) is a a tough act to follow.

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  11. James Blacksmith

    May 30, 2014 at 12:35

    There are very few original games out there. I’ve found most FPS’s to be monotonous, caring only about finishing it (as opposed to actually enjoying the experience).

    Half life 2 and Farcry being some exceptions.
    Multiplayer of course is a different challenge, but I far prefer games where the winner isn’t determined by the guy going 30-29 kills/deaths compared to the guy going 15-2.

    In RL you’re probably not gonna go around all Rambo knowing you’ll die in 3seconds.

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  12. Ryanza

    May 30, 2014 at 12:45

    After playing Bioshock Infinite, they should just let Bioshock die.

    Boishock 1 was a good game but Bioshock infinite, oh, what a nice try, just to be, meh.

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  13. HisDivineOrder

    May 30, 2014 at 14:29

    I think if the Bioshock Infinite DLC shows anything clearly, it’s that people want to go back to Rapture and stay the hell away from Columbia.

    That said, I think there are other time periods and shticks that could easily be turned into a full-on Rapture replacement. I think inherently the problem with Columbia was that they just weren’t committed to the concept when they did it.

    See, Rapture worked because it was supposed to be post-crazytowning. So when it was devoid of real people, save a couple of notable examples, that worked and it didn’t require a lot of citizens or whatever milling about. The story helped explain away the lack of civilians or innocents or whatever.

    But Columbia didn’t do that. The story just basically glossed over them. That’s bad writing or bad game design if you don’t bother to remember it when you code the game. It doesn’t help that Columbia felt so Bioshock-redux in terms of the same kinds of tonics/plasmids, etc.

    Might have been better if they had either chosen to fully integrate Columbia and Rapture in the same world (instead of calling them alternates) or had the mechanics really evolve instead of be slightly iterative.

    I think another visit to Rapture could work, but they’ll need to do something different with it. The Infinite DLC might be a hint as to how to do it with a full commitment to showing us a pre-new year’s Rapture or 2K Marin could, y’know, commit to fully realizing a Columbia that includes the people it supposedly had in the background and to the floating city motif.

    I imagine the only way to do that would be to go fully next gen and forget any idea of porting to older consoles. I say this because I think memory constraints kept level sizes too small to fully realize Columbia the way it may have originally been envisioned.

    Also, no multiplayer. That’s just a bad idea for Bioshock. Not unless you do something very Dark Souls-esque (or potentially Watch Dogs-ian with the hacking in aspect) with it.

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    • oVgeeeeee Comet Drop

      May 30, 2014 at 16:49

      I will never forget Rapture. Back when the FPS game was still fresh. The first title that I owned on the core 360 back in 2007. The water blew my mind. The tight corridors and under water claustrophobia gave it a more horrific vibe.

      I will never sell it.

      Reply

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