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CD Projekt RED responds to “Downgrade” claims. Sorta.

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Actual screenshot of the retail release

The Witcher 3 Developer CD Projekt RED is being showered with praise right now. Their game is, according to the select media that have been able to review it, pretty damned amazing. They’re being lauded for how they’re handling their Day One patch (where other developers would be crucified) and they’re even being given a pat on the back for being nice to pirates. It’s because they’re generally pretty forthcoming, and tend to hold back on the BS. Strangely, not where that blasted “Witcher 3 downgrade” is concerned.

According to many angry pixel and particle counters on the internet, The Witcher 3’s visual have seen a significant downgrade since its first reveal. There’s less smoke, fewer particles, worse lighting, shoddier textures and all manner of other things wrong with the game, according to the sort of people who get very, very angry about video games. And of course, the console versions are being blamed for everything.

CD Projekt Red has responded to the claims of a downgrade. Sorta. Ok not really.

“Ok guys, I belive a word of clarification is required. These are just rumors, and as we’ve said before we don’t comment on such. Secondly you have to remember that our game is a big release – a lot of people have been anticipating it and quite a few would like to gain some publicity from it even when it means talking about things which are not true,” says CDPR’s Marcin Momo (via Gearnuke)

“Wild Hunt comes out in a few days and you will be able to find out for yourself if the game is up to your standards. We believe so – we’ve worked really hard for 3 years to deliver you best possible experience – we love The Witcher as much as you do. To conlude [sic] we’d rather have you focus on the game and the fact that it’s going to be in your hand in a matter of days. And one more thing – whenever we say something officially, we always put a person behind it.”

Essentially, they’re still in PR mode – and can neither confirm nor deny a visual downgrade. They’d prefer you judge for yourself when you play it. From my own perspective, it does look like The Witcher 3 isn’t as pretty as initial reveal trailers showed it to be – but the game is still an incredible game to look at, and more importantly, to play.

Last Updated: May 14, 2015

140 Comments

  1. Admiral Chief

    May 14, 2015 at 14:02

    Hmmmm, I should probably check my download progress…

    Reply

    • Admiral Chief

      May 14, 2015 at 14:04

      86.8%
      For some reason it did not download through the night.
      Has anyone else had issues with the Galaxy client. So far, it is ok for me. I just can’t find the pause download option (well, did not spend a lot of time looking for it tbh) and apart from the ‘no-download’ last night, it is not too bad.
      At least I can unlock achievements now haha

      Reply

      • RinceTriss

        May 14, 2015 at 14:08

        Was your PC turned on? *RUNS

        Reply

        • RustedFaith

          May 14, 2015 at 14:11

          lol

          Reply

      • Hammersteyn

        May 14, 2015 at 14:10

        Click Resume torrent?

        Reply

        • Blood Emperor Trevor

          May 14, 2015 at 14:11

          huehuehue

          Reply

        • equivilency

          May 16, 2015 at 19:55

          Haha.

          Reply

      • Valenlord

        May 14, 2015 at 14:16

        I think if your download stopped you can always put the blame to Eskom

        Reply

      • Kromas,powered by windows 10.

        May 14, 2015 at 14:50

        Took me almost 2 full days to completely redownload Star Citizen. Devs have no idea how to optimize game downloads anymore. Well maybe Blizzard but that’s about it.

        Reply

        • RustedFaith

          May 14, 2015 at 14:54

          Im sitting at 3 days now to download the ptu files, its brutal.

          Reply

      • Mark Treloar

        May 14, 2015 at 16:22

        Couldn’t find a pause option

        Reply

    • Mark Treloar

      May 14, 2015 at 16:21

      100%

      Reply

  2. Krabby Paddy

    May 14, 2015 at 14:07

    Thank you CDPR for thinking about us and downgrading for those with crappy (relatively) graphics cards and consoles. You really can’t do anything wrong 🙂

    Reply

  3. Valenlord

    May 14, 2015 at 14:09

    OOOO I can’t wait to get my hand on that silver sword!!!!

    Reply

    • Pariah

      May 14, 2015 at 14:10

      That’s what sh… Um. O_o

      Reply

      • Valenlord

        May 14, 2015 at 14:13

        I wasn’t referring to a greatsword….

        Reply

        • Pariah

          May 14, 2015 at 14:14

          Of course not, that would be lying.

          Reply

          • Valenlord

            May 14, 2015 at 14:15

            Ouch….

        • Umar

          May 14, 2015 at 14:17

          Is that a throwing knife in your pants?

          Reply

          • Valenlord

            May 14, 2015 at 14:21

            No that my dear friend is called a german greatsword….

          • Umar

            May 14, 2015 at 14:24

            my eyes! It’s so bright…..

    • RustedFaith

      May 14, 2015 at 14:11

      I always carry my silver sword with me … oh sorry what are we talking about again.

      Reply

  4. Hammersteyn

    May 14, 2015 at 14:10

    Those Damn peasants are gimping games again!

    Reply

    • Pariah

      May 14, 2015 at 14:10

      Stop talking about your fellow species like that. They have enough problems as it is without their own kind turning on them…

      Reply

      • Hammersteyn

        May 14, 2015 at 14:11

        I get confused where I belong when I play PC games for a while

        Reply

        • Pariah

          May 14, 2015 at 14:12

          I wonder if the term mudblood is appropriate here or not?

          Reply

          • Blood Emperor Trevor

            May 14, 2015 at 14:16

            Maybe bluemudblood?

          • Hammersteyn

            May 14, 2015 at 14:17

            Alabanyblood, best of both worlds? Aah who am I kidding,console doesn’t have a best part.

          • Blood Emperor Trevor

            May 14, 2015 at 14:19

            That’s not true, you can use an Xbone as an emergency nuclear shelter.

          • Dutch-Trevor Matrix

            May 14, 2015 at 14:19

            Bone… Badger… Ducky… Trevor…

        • Dutch-Trevor Matrix

          May 14, 2015 at 14:12

          “Get” confused? How rich. You are the embodiment of confusion!

          Reply

    • Kromas,powered by windows 10.

      May 14, 2015 at 14:51

      When will they learn to just make games for PC’s. 😛

      Reply

  5. Uberutang

    May 14, 2015 at 14:12

    I have downgraded my pre-order to a ‘buy on sale’ level to match the visual downgrade.
    Fair is fair.

    Reply

  6. Dutch-Trevor Matrix

    May 14, 2015 at 14:15

    Have to ask, Geoff. Who did that wonderful header art? Certainly is some ballsy art right there!

    Reply

    • The D

      May 14, 2015 at 14:15

      That would be me! I didn’t go barefoot in a fine arts campus for a year for nuthin’!

      Reply

      • Blood Emperor Trevor

        May 14, 2015 at 14:17

        It made your feet tough enough to grip the pencil properly? *run*

        Reply

        • Dutch-Trevor Matrix

          May 14, 2015 at 14:18

          My Ducky is still waiting for your Badger! Twice the Trevors! Twice the FUN!!!

          Reply

        • RinceTriss

          May 14, 2015 at 14:24

          HAHAHAHA!

          Reply

        • The D

          May 14, 2015 at 15:07

          You ever been shot by a guy who holds a gun with a foot?

          Reply

          • Blood Emperor Trevor

            May 14, 2015 at 15:11

            Water pistols don’t count!

      • Dutch-Trevor Matrix

        May 14, 2015 at 14:17

        That sounds way too much like my first girlfriend I had to be a coincidence. If I say Toy Story, what is the first thing that pops into your mind?

        Reply

        • The D

          May 14, 2015 at 14:21

          THE CLAW!

          Reply

          • Dutch-Trevor Matrix

            May 14, 2015 at 14:22

            OK. Thank the Gods! I never screamed that…

      • Hammersteyn

        May 14, 2015 at 14:18

        skills broe!

        Reply

        • Valenlord

          May 14, 2015 at 14:22

          Ja nee skills to the D

          Reply

      • RinceTriss

        May 14, 2015 at 14:24

        Did you have to focus on his… Junk? 0_O

        Reply

        • Hammersteyn

          May 14, 2015 at 14:27

          Used his face as inspiration?

          Reply

          • HairyEwok

            May 14, 2015 at 14:28

            Probably body too (reference to the balls he drew)

      • Greylingad[CNFRMD]

        May 14, 2015 at 14:36

        I also have a question with regards to this, is that Geralt Grrrrrr-ing away or the griffin? It must be Geralt…

        Reply

        • The D

          May 14, 2015 at 15:06

          That’s not a Griffin. It’s a Grrrrrrrrrriffin.

          Reply

          • Greylingad[CNFRMD]

            May 14, 2015 at 15:09

            Hahahahah!!!!

          • Blood Emperor Trevor

            May 14, 2015 at 15:10

            And it’s GRRRRRRRRRRRRR…EAT! ;P

          • Thats_how_I_Troll

            May 14, 2015 at 16:16

          • Thats_how_I_Troll

            May 14, 2015 at 16:17

            I hope someone gets the reference…

          • Wolfgang Wilkes

            May 15, 2015 at 03:19

            Goodness gracious!

  7. Blood Emperor Trevor

    May 14, 2015 at 14:15

    I looked at the evidence on the article you posted the other day & couldn’t see any meaningful difference. And I was wearing my make-seeing-better glasses, not my honey-rainbow-cantseeanythingwrongwithCDPRever-fanboy glasses. Storm, meet teacup. Teacup, storm.

    Reply

    • Wyzak

      May 14, 2015 at 14:21

      Time to go to the optometrist then if you couldn’t see the difference between those screenshots. Granted they weren’t all at exactly the same spot.

      Reply

  8. Umar

    May 14, 2015 at 14:16

    F CDPR for giving us this amazing games to the best of their ability, F them for not blindly hyping a game to fake iconic level, F them for the free DLC and good practices and finally, praise the gamers for for their endless crusade to destroy everything in their path!

    Reply

    • Hammersteyn

      May 14, 2015 at 14:17

      And that DRM, no one will be able to play day one

      Reply

      • Umar

        May 14, 2015 at 14:18

        Oh yeah, these guys are scum!

        Reply

        • Blood Emperor Trevor

          May 14, 2015 at 14:20

          I know. I’m cancelling the pre-order I’ve had for about a year immediately. So upset! WHERE DID THE PARTICLES GO? I bet they’re on-disk DLC that you unlock with a MT!

          Reply

          • Dutch-Trevor Matrix

            May 14, 2015 at 14:22

            Oh we can spend the whole night doing MT’s and Particles and DLC… Twice the Trevors..

          • Hammersteyn

            May 14, 2015 at 14:22

            I heard you need to use their game client.

          • Blood Emperor Trevor

            May 14, 2015 at 14:23

            OMG DRM WTF LOL

          • Umar

            May 14, 2015 at 14:23

            I say gamers should vote with their wallets. Don’t support this filth! I’m so glad everyone decided to support Evolve and ALL it’s DLC rather!

    • RinceTriss

      May 14, 2015 at 14:23

      Hail what you said!

      Reply

  9. Ottokie

    May 14, 2015 at 14:17

    “And of course, the console versions are being blamed for everything.” Makes me think of this…
    (Refresh for pic)

    Reply

    • Valenlord

      May 14, 2015 at 14:23

      Who cares about graphics????? Please who?????

      Reply

      • HairyEwok

        May 14, 2015 at 14:23

        People that don’t have a imagination?

        Reply

      • Ottokie

        May 14, 2015 at 14:25

        Firestarters usually

        I do like my eye candy but the general concenses is usually Gameplay > Graphics

        Reply

      • Hammersteyn

        May 14, 2015 at 14:27

        Console gamers?

        Reply

        • Valenlord

          May 14, 2015 at 14:31

          Nope definitely not console games… I am of the x1 master race, and I must agree with Ottokie, gameplay + storyline > graphics… anyway if your screen/tv is so small does the graphics really have such a big influence…

          Reply

          • HairyEwok

            May 14, 2015 at 14:32

            1st World problems…. My TV screen is too small to have nice graphics.

          • Valenlord

            May 14, 2015 at 14:34

            Make like Soweto… go buy a brand new big screen TV and then when the time comes that you must pay…………… *must keep quiet now….

          • Ottokie

            May 14, 2015 at 14:35

            Luckily its the minority of the supporters that complain, but its usually those who makes the most noise and is actually mistaken for “everyone”

          • Valenlord

            May 14, 2015 at 14:36

            Like everyone must pay for Eskom….

          • HairyEwok

            May 14, 2015 at 14:37

            It’s those poepols that went and upgraded their pc’s with multi gpu cards and super processors that are moaning…. I would surely be pissed too if I upgraded for those graphics and I’m getting mediocre console graphics *runs

          • Ottokie

            May 14, 2015 at 14:39

            Hahahaha the pitch forks are comming.

            If you upgrade your PC its for your hobby and love of “gaming”, not one single game.

          • RinceTriss

            May 14, 2015 at 14:46

            And here I am just laughing at them teheheheh

  10. HairyEwok

    May 14, 2015 at 14:20

    People most of the times get in-game engine and in-game footage wrong. In-game engine basically throws it all in and a bit more to make it as pretty as possible so you would go OMG WTF NEXT GEN GRAPHICS RULE (Behind the covers it’s multi GPU cards working real hard to get you maximum eyecandy) and then theres in-game footage that actually runs on equipment you have in you PC box/console.

    Reply

  11. Loftus

    May 14, 2015 at 14:23

    hahaha i read “According to many angry pixies”! Damn my sometimes amusing dyslexia! For my money the game is absolutely stunning. Until about a month or two ago i was aware of this game but it wasn’t something is was into so i didn’t even read stuff about it. Now i can’t wait for 19 May to win this game!

    Whoohooo all aboard the Witcher Hype train !

    Reply

  12. ReaperOfSquirrels

    May 14, 2015 at 14:25

    GoG was recording hectic speeds on it’s Galaxy client for The Witcher 3 preloads… Somewhere around 220 Gbps (27.5 GBps)… which is apparently an install per second.

    I want that line at home!

    Reply

    • RinceTriss

      May 14, 2015 at 14:37

      Heck is Guardians of the Galaxy downloading Witcher III for? 0_O

      Reply

      • Blood Emperor Trevor

        May 14, 2015 at 14:40

        To get in the mood for some pelvic sorcery?

        Reply

        • RinceTriss

          May 14, 2015 at 14:44

          Before or after the Jackson Pollock session?

          Reply

          • Blood Emperor Trevor

            May 14, 2015 at 14:46

            Presumably before, otherwise it’s just a blank canvas. O_o

          • RinceTriss

            May 14, 2015 at 14:47

            There are pills for that!

          • Blood Emperor Trevor

            May 14, 2015 at 14:49

            CAAAAAAAANDIES!…

      • ReaperOfSquirrels

        May 14, 2015 at 14:41

        I am Groot! 🙂

        Reply

        • Pariah

          May 14, 2015 at 14:54

          *Ek is

          Reply

          • ReaperOfSquirrels

            May 14, 2015 at 14:55

            I am not touching that comment.

          • Pariah

            May 14, 2015 at 14:56

            That’s what she said? Shame boet. XD

            *RUNS

        • RinceTriss

          May 14, 2015 at 14:58

          Good for you, I’m wood… No wait 0_O

          Reply

  13. Dutch-Trevor Matrix

    May 14, 2015 at 14:27

    This game releases the day before my birthday. Nudge Nudge Wink Wink… GUYS!!! COME ON! IF YOU ALL KLAP IN R100.00 YOU CAN DO IT!!!! PS4 by the way…

    Reply

    • HairyEwok

      May 14, 2015 at 14:29

      I thought you were going to win the game…… Go wink wink at random.org not us XD

      Reply

    • Valenlord

      May 14, 2015 at 14:31

      I will never support a Trevor… I am a Micheal man…

      Reply

      • Dutch-Trevor Matrix

        May 14, 2015 at 14:32

        Good! I don’t want to be supported by a guy who can’t spell the name of his boyfriend!

        Reply

        • Valenlord

          May 14, 2015 at 14:36

          Ag Trevor don’t be like this… earlier you were still nice… is it the crack talkin???? *runs of laughing!!!!

          Reply

    • Admiral Chief

      May 14, 2015 at 14:43

      You’d need 6-8 friends, I don’t see that happening

      Reply

      • RinceTriss

        May 14, 2015 at 14:45

        Ohhh!

        Reply

      • Valenlord

        May 14, 2015 at 14:48

        I think the term would be LAWYERED…

        Reply

      • Dutch-Trevor Matrix

        May 14, 2015 at 14:57

        Do take note: I said Guys, not Friends…

        Reply

        • Pariah

          May 14, 2015 at 14:59

          Guys don’t buy other guys gifts. Only beers.

          Reply

          • Dutch-Trevor Matrix

            May 14, 2015 at 15:00

            I do not drink.

          • Pariah

            May 14, 2015 at 15:00

            Which leaves only drugs as an explanation.

          • Dutch-Trevor Matrix

            May 14, 2015 at 15:04

            It’s Herpes. Of the brain. I had a chat with Pamela Anderson once… http://cdn.3news.co.nz/3news/AM/2013/8/29/311077/pamela-anderson_wenn_1200.jpg

          • Pariah

            May 14, 2015 at 15:07

            That’s pretty scary. Explains a lot though. O_o

          • Dutch-Trevor Matrix

            May 14, 2015 at 15:10

            You have no idea. It was kind of awesome being able to read some great stuff. Tolstoy, Shakespeare, Twain… Thanks that to that murderous brain infection, all I can now manage is Moosa’s stuff.

          • Pariah

            May 14, 2015 at 15:15

            At least we know how Twilight was written.

  14. Blood Emperor Trevor

    May 14, 2015 at 14:29

    I can picture it now, Geralt rides up to a village and a random peasant comes running up to him, “Help Witcher, my house is on fire!”, “I don’t believe you, there can’t be a fire because there’s no smoke, WHERE ARE THE PARTICLE EFFECTS!”

    Reply

    • HairyEwok

      May 14, 2015 at 14:30

      What if the peasant himself is also on fire and he points he’s on fire to Gerald…. Gerald would laugh at his peasantly lies.

      Reply

  15. RinceTriss

    May 14, 2015 at 14:45

    So it must be those 4 people out there who think that having the bestest graphics card ups them as being anything but insecure, sad losers?

    Reply

  16. WitWolfy

    May 14, 2015 at 14:48

    I would lie if I said I wasnt upset. Lets be realistic here…. If these were any other devs like EA, ACTIVISION or UBI then people would’ve ripped it a new one. But seeing that its CDP (the company we all wish Bioware still could be), is instantly forgiven.

    Typical E3 trailers. Show bullshots, then act all innocent when the actual product releases. IF ITS PC FOOTAGE THEN FFS TELL US CONSOLE OWNERS:

    “Uuuuh listen you console peasants, that was the PC version running on MAX ultra settings DX13 at 4K with 6 ULTRA NASA PCs spliced into one massive SERVER, all SLI’d with TITAN X GPU’s.

    Then show us what we can expect from the console versions! EASY!!!!

    Man I’m PO right now.

    Reply

  17. Ranting Raptor

    May 14, 2015 at 14:48

    Whatever. It’s just the Witcher 3. I don’t care.

    *runs away crying*

    Reply

    • Kromas,powered by windows 10.

      May 14, 2015 at 14:49

      Don’t care either as money has already left my bank account ages ago.

      Reply

      • Ranting Raptor

        May 14, 2015 at 14:53

        Same here…. except not for Witcher 🙁

        Reply

        • Dutch-Trevor Matrix

          May 14, 2015 at 15:01

          Yup. “Date NIght” is quite expenisve these days, right?

          Reply

          • Ranting Raptor

            May 14, 2015 at 15:04

            I am already married and have a kid. It’s the kid that’s expensive lol

          • Dutch-Trevor Matrix

            May 14, 2015 at 15:05

            You pre-ordered a kid?????

          • Ranting Raptor

            May 14, 2015 at 15:30

            Yeah. 9 months before launch

          • Dutch-Trevor Matrix

            May 14, 2015 at 15:35

            Must have been a hefty deposit! Just kidding.

          • Ranting Raptor

            May 14, 2015 at 15:35

            *waggles eyebrows*

          • Blood Emperor Trevor

            May 14, 2015 at 16:08

            Can you resell them later, or are they more like PC games?

          • Ranting Raptor

            May 15, 2015 at 08:11

            mostly like PC games

  18. Tbone187

    May 14, 2015 at 15:00

    If you’re a console owner and complaining bout a downgrade in visuals, please reach for your toes, sling your hand back as hard as possible and klap yourself on the forehead.

    Reply

    • Hammersteyn

      May 14, 2015 at 17:51

      ROFL

      Reply

  19. Gr8_Balls_o_KFM_Fire

    May 14, 2015 at 15:16

    Well they IMPLIED its not true.. does that count?

    Reply

  20. CuddlesaurusRex

    May 14, 2015 at 15:18

    I actually cant believe how angry people get over this kind of thing. If the story is good and the gameplay is good then its a good game. Awesome graphics are a bonus.

    Reply

  21. Greylingad[CNFRMD]

    May 14, 2015 at 15:19

    I thought Wart_dodgey_Doge had a lot of people complaining about it… Dear Lord! This is even worse… At least I didn’t see any stuttering during any of the gameplay videos for the Witcher 3….

    Reply

  22. The Downgrade Is Real

    May 14, 2015 at 16:32

    2013 was a tough time for CD Projekt RED simply because
    we were trying to create an entire bulk of the game on the older DirectX
    9 renderer that we had in place for The Witcher 2. Most of the assets
    were created during the time we were creating our DX11 solution render
    pipeline to bring the next-generation experience to everyone. A lot of
    the footage including the debut gameplay trailer was done when the
    consoles were not even out and we only had an idea of the specifications
    of the system. This landed itself into problem territory when we
    realized the next-generation systems could not simply meet our graphical
    output to the desirable level of quality that we needed. There were
    several options: build three different builds or consolidate to the
    nearest denominator, which is what we did. We took the specifications of
    the lowest performing throughput system which I don’t care to mention
    here at all to avoid that discussion, and worked our way up from there.
    As almost a 250 man team, we sequentially had to take out/turn down a
    lot of features not just from our NVIDIA GameWorks pipeline but our
    normal game solution scripts as well – these include the following:

    Level of horizon detail (essentially the draw distance had to be completely tuned down to tax the consoles less)

    Volume based translucency

    Ambient occlusion and foliage density / tree count

    Flexible water simulation / tessellation we resorted to a (script
    texture effect similar to most games than physical based simulation)

    Ground/building tessellation

    Forward lit soft particles (this is the fire, smoke, fog that you
    would encounter while going through thick terrain into open space)

    Real-time reflections in the water are completely off and replaced
    with a cheaper render solution estimator (this is a primary reason blood
    splatter was also removed from water)

    We just did not have the manpower, budget or the console power to
    produce the vision we intended before the consoles were released to
    create a more visually stunning game of higher fidelity like 2013
    assets. The PCs themselves had more than enough power to achieve this
    vision, almost certainly. But working on the game across 3 platforms did
    not make it feasible to keep features included that could potentially
    break the game as we kept building around it. All the 2013 trailers were
    actually in-game footage (not prerendered or vertical slices) but
    essentially just not an entirely finished world running on a high-end PC
    at the time.

    In game development you simply just don’t explain it like this. It isn’t
    something a developer ever wants to admit to because it would make us
    look bad even if it is plain as day. It would make us seem like we’re
    incapable and that next-gen is not as next-gen as people would think.
    The team would rather focus on the positives than admit to any faults,
    negatives, or that the final product is not the vision they intended
    politically speaking (because the game still looks good but not 2013
    good). As for the PC version, it looks just like the console versions
    just with a higher resolution and a lower-form of HairWorks in effect.

    http://whatifgaming.com/developer-insider-the-witcher-3-was-downgraded-from-2013-list-of-all-features-taken-out-why

    Reply

  23. Bitfenix

    May 14, 2015 at 16:36

    Click on it

    Reply

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    May 14, 2015 at 19:05

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  25. JessicaConnolly

    May 14, 2015 at 22:58

    ????

    Reply

  26. JayDiCee

    May 15, 2015 at 07:40

    Anybody here remember FFVII? Anybody got sidetracked by the polygons? if you did i guess you did not experience the story playing off infron of you…

    Reply

  27. equivilency

    May 16, 2015 at 19:59

    I can’t believe they downgraded this. PC gaming is getting very expensive and the game selection is becoming very limited. I hate to say it, but PC gaming seems to be getting worse – not better.

    Reply

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