Patch adams

I still remember the day my family upgraded from the NES to SNES. That brand new console with new on-and-off mechanisms, new cartridges. It was beautiful – we plugged it in and started playing the newest Mario. Well, that’s not how it will be with the PS4 – you get to plug it in and start downloading.

Sony has confirmed a 300MB ‘update’ to version 1.50 to add support for remote play, multi log-in, second screen as well as broadcasting/spectating gameplay features. Β However, not all features touted for PS4 will be available at launch:

Some features will not be available at launch, such as β€œsuspend/resume mode” which is a feature that keeps the PS4 system in a low power state and promptly takes users back to their game.

300 MB so that I can have some of the features my console should come with built in. Even the Blu-Ray/DVD player needs to be activated online when used for the first time. This might not be an issue for plenty of people – I know that I have the slowest internet of anyone in the office. However, I also know that when my internet is slow, it can take me ages to download 100 MB, let alone 300…and what happens if my connection drops mid download?

Are day one patches the new status quo? I would love for South African infrastructure to catch up with the rest of the world so that I don’t even have to think about these things. Unfortunately, my power went out while updating my Wii U and that pretty new console of mine could have been bricked in the process (luckily, it wasn’t). After spending a small fortune on a next generation console, I want to know that it will work straight out of the box.

But hey, maybe I’m just old school.

Last Updated: October 28, 2013

1.1
was reviewed on PC

117 Comments

  1. oVg

    October 28, 2013 at 11:34

    Day 1 DRM. Who would have thought that gamers would be happy with this feature 5 years ago. Well I suppose day 1 is better than every 24hours. But who is to say that they will not change their policies whenever they like.

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    • Ultimo_Cleric N7

      October 28, 2013 at 12:44

      Well said oupal! how sad that this is the new norm.

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      • oVg

        October 28, 2013 at 12:58

        I remember how we all laughed our asses off when we heard the news that Bethesda were selling Horse Armour. Look how that became the norm and changed gaming forever.

        Watch this space, because all those mandates that Microsoft wanted before the 180 will be the new norm 2 years from now when the do their next 180.

        We vote with our wallets. But when the new gen have 3 Fables in their top ten, then I am afraid it is a lost cause πŸ˜›

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    • Alien Emperor Trevor

      October 28, 2013 at 12:48

      Lots of people complained 5 years ago about their rights being trampled on. Unfortunately a metric ton more of people went, “WOOO SHINY GAMEZ!!! MUST HAVE!11! LOL WOOOOO!!”

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      • oVg

        October 28, 2013 at 13:03

        lol and all stare in wonderment at the ERROR 37 screen for 48hours with a huge grin on their lemming faces πŸ˜›

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  2. SargonTheGreatPandaOfAkkad

    October 28, 2013 at 11:35

    What was all that talk about consoles never needing to update anything? Just plug and play? Something about PC’s always updating? Digital taking too much time to “download”?

    Oh yeah. It’s your time now, consoles. Feel the download rage! Feel the Error 37!

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    • oVg

      October 28, 2013 at 11:36

      I don’t know why they call them consoles.

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      • SargonTheGreatPandaOfAkkad

        October 28, 2013 at 11:39

        Run! Run for the Hills! You dun awoken the CONSOLE FANS!

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        • oVg

          October 28, 2013 at 11:47

          Shall we console them πŸ˜›

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    • FSR

      October 28, 2013 at 12:41

      I’m lolling on the inside since i made the decision to go PC next gen instead. It’s one balls-up after the next. Our console can do THIS….. (but not on day one, we’re still working on it).

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  3. Martin du preez

    October 28, 2013 at 11:35

    Luckily we are getting the console later so it will be easy to just download from pc to a flash and update on launch. Also,doesn’t some blu ray players need an update (region bs) before you can use it?

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    • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

      October 28, 2013 at 13:22

      That’s exactly what I’m going to be doing. I’m going to download the firmware update before hand and wait for my precious to arrive.

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  4. Craig Boonzaier

    October 28, 2013 at 11:35

    I get the same feeling about Day 1 DLC’s, like really, you could have just added that to the game.

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    • SargonTheGreatPandaOfAkkad

      October 28, 2013 at 11:37

      “Thank you for buying from [insert TransNational Corporation of Thievery here]. We appreciate your business. For an additional $9.99 you can buy day one DLC that you don’t even have to download. We here at [insert TransNational Corporation of Thievery here] anticipated your desire to get more content a.s.a.p and so packaged your game with additional content. All you need to do is buy it to activate it.

      And once again, mindless peon, [insert TransNational Corporation of Thievery here] appreciates your support.”

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    • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

      October 28, 2013 at 13:30

      With hardware though, I’d be pissed off if they didn’t keep it updated. So day one firmware updates are ok, especially so if I’m being informed of them AND there’s a chance to download the update from a website, chuck it on a flashdrive and apply when I want to.

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  5. iAmWeasel

    October 28, 2013 at 11:36

    Article is a little misleading because you can plug in and start playing. The patch is just an extension of features.

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    • oVg

      October 28, 2013 at 11:39

      Can it work out of the box if one does not have internet access?

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      • iAmWeasel

        October 28, 2013 at 11:40

        That is my understanding.

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        • SargonTheGreatPandaOfAkkad

          October 28, 2013 at 11:40

          So you never actually need to connect the PS4 to the interwebz? Ever? I mean.. unless you want to use Blu-Ray. Then you need to. But besides that..?

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          • Pieter Kruger

            October 28, 2013 at 11:43

            Well, don’t you need Blu-Ray to play games?

          • oVg

            October 28, 2013 at 11:44

            They are clever, instead of being honest like Microsoft and getting shot in the foot for it, the skirt around the back door instead. They are all as bad as each other.

            The next gen is in for a rough ride. Never mind the 66% failure rate like 2007.

          • iAmWeasel

            October 28, 2013 at 11:48

            Shame dude, you still bitter about not being able to play GTAV on your PC?

          • SargonTheGreatPandaOfAkkad

            October 28, 2013 at 11:49

            Being critical isn’t the same as being bitter. I would suggest you learn the difference. Being critical isn’t bad. Ever.

          • ToshZA

            October 28, 2013 at 11:54

            Sargon rolls for hit, D20, critical, scores 500% damage.
            Rolls 2d4 main hand, result: 6 x 5 = 30 damage.
            Rolls 1d6 off hand, result 5 x 5 = 25 damage.

            Edit: yeah I know, I just totally nerded out there.

          • NecroRince

            October 28, 2013 at 11:56

            What you said, times 9000.

          • iAmWeasel

            October 28, 2013 at 11:58

            Guys relax.. friendly banter πŸ™‚

          • NecroRince

            October 28, 2013 at 11:56

            He doesn’t have a PC and was playing GTAV all day on sat πŸ˜›

          • SargonTheGreatPandaOfAkkad

            October 28, 2013 at 11:48

            My head just exploded. πŸ˜›

        • oVg

          October 28, 2013 at 11:40

          Just cant use the Blu-Ray drive.

          I am staying the hell away from these on-line DRM machines.

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      • ALKi1234

        October 28, 2013 at 11:40

        What cave have you been living in these last 6 months??

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        • oVg

          October 28, 2013 at 11:41

          The one with no internet access.

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      • Pieter Kruger

        October 28, 2013 at 11:41

        Blu-Ray needs to be activated online, so no!

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        • iAmWeasel

          October 28, 2013 at 11:43

          That’s for blu-ray movies I believe.

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        • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

          October 28, 2013 at 13:36

          Meanwhile, for the XBone720… the whole thing needs to be activated online! πŸ˜›

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          • ToshZA

            October 28, 2013 at 13:38

            hahaha. Yeah it does, doesn’t it? Makes play that people complain about something that won’t actually affect your gaming if you intend to stay offline.

      • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

        October 28, 2013 at 13:23

        Yep, it”l work out of the box (without internet access). It doesn’t need to be activated or DRM-freed – unlike the XBone 720

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    • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

      October 28, 2013 at 13:23

      True, Yosp confirmed that you can download in the background and play out of the box. No need to first wait for the patch to download.

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  6. Deano

    October 28, 2013 at 11:40

    I’ve done a very bad thing. PS4 pre-order has been confirmed πŸ˜›

    Day 1 patch’s are a norm now, not great but it seems to be the norm.

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    • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

      October 29, 2013 at 11:20

      Wait… Deano’s getting a PS4? Sweet mother Russia! Are you the real Deano?

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      • Deano

        October 29, 2013 at 11:50

        Yep im the real Deano, I own a PS3 and Xbox 360. but bearly use the PS3.

        I have my PS4 pre-order confirmed but the guy said I can cancel it on the day, which im leaning towards, just cant justify a day 1 purchase, but will see when Dec 13 rolls around and make a call.

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  7. Lourens Jordaan

    October 28, 2013 at 11:40

    I thought the day 1 patch would be greater than 2 GB. Although the PS4 won’t force you to be online, it does have a lot of online features to “improve” or “enhance” your experience. A lot of newly released games will also have day 1 patches to fix some bugs even while being singleplayer games. This means that software bugs is the new DRM.

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  8. Admiral Chief Ninja

    October 28, 2013 at 11:42

    We had a nickname for a dude at school, patch adams.

    Kids can be cruel.

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  9. ToshZA

    October 28, 2013 at 11:43

    Or you could just wait a few months for the decent bundles and have the software update come with the console?

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    • Kensei Seraph

      October 28, 2013 at 11:44

      By the time you get the console home there will be another 300MB software update.

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      • ToshZA

        October 28, 2013 at 11:45

        Interesting assumption. But incorrect reasoning. See, I won’t NEED that update to use the extra features, because that specific patch will already be installed. Which means I could keep my console offline as I intended, without needing to update a damn thing. Only getting the updates with new games. That works just fine for me, has been for years.

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        • Pieter Kruger

          October 28, 2013 at 11:48

          But you’ll need to activate your Blu-Ray player online 1st!

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          • ToshZA

            October 28, 2013 at 11:49

            Did you miss my comment? The patch will be ready installed since I’m waiting for next year.

            I have a 5.1 Blu Ray system already, so console is purely for games anyways.

          • Pieter Kruger

            October 28, 2013 at 11:58

            Yeah, missed your comment re having the 5.1 Blu Ray system already and not going to use the PS4 for movies, my bad!

          • ToshZA

            October 28, 2013 at 11:59

            That wasn’t my comment. *le sigh*

          • Pieter Kruger

            October 28, 2013 at 12:02

            Exactly! *le sigh* x10

          • ToshZA

            October 28, 2013 at 12:04

            Lol, ok ok ok. FINE.

        • Kensei Seraph

          October 28, 2013 at 11:48

          True.
          I personally haven’t connected my PS3 to the internet, let alone update it, in nearly 2 years.

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  10. ElimiNathan

    October 28, 2013 at 11:45

    Sorry for all the guys with slow internet, this is gna be a kak one. For me, 10 minute update

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    • ToshZA

      October 28, 2013 at 11:46

      So you’re on 3G then, like me. I feel for Telkom users.

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      • ElimiNathan

        October 28, 2013 at 13:03

        10MB dsl bro, the only way

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        • ToshZA

          October 28, 2013 at 13:08

          I get 10 – 20mb’s on my 3G. And my 4mb telkom line gave me around 1.5mb speeds at best – so I can only surmise that 10mb’s on telkom will on average give people around 5mb’s or less real speed.

          The only catch is the price.

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          • ElimiNathan

            October 28, 2013 at 13:13

            I’m not too sure what you mean. A 4mb line is a 4Mbit line, not a 4 Mbyte line. If your line is syncing @4MBits your maximum download speed will be 460 KBytes p/s. On a 10 Mbit line, the max download speed is 1.2 MBytes p/s. So I’m not too sure what you mean when you say your 4mb line gave you around 1.5mb speeds ?

            And on services like Steam and Origin I get a constant max download speed with Mweb.

            So 300 MB done @1.2 MB p/s = 4.16 minutes to download

          • ToshZA

            October 28, 2013 at 13:17

            I’m talking Mbit’s here. The actual speed I was getting on a 4mb line was 150kb/s max. Usually around 90-100.

            My normal speed on the 3G is around 1.5mbytes/s, sometimes more, sometimes a little less.

            What I’m saying is that on a 10mb line, your max speed is 1.2MB/s, but the reality will be about 500-600KB/s for a lot of people. Getting max speed on a telkom line is not the norm.

          • ElimiNathan

            October 28, 2013 at 13:19

            Ye depends on where you stay/your ISP. I know Mweb unshapes their gaming protocols so like I said Steam and Origin etc are a constant max download speed.

          • ToshZA

            October 28, 2013 at 13:20

            I was with Afrihost, capped so unshaped. The max I could ever squeeze out of my line was 150kb/s – and that was the real speed of the line. speedtest.net at varied times of day produced the same result, 1.5Mbit speeds. This is normal for Telkom. Ping was decent, but downloading stuff took a while.

          • ElimiNathan

            October 28, 2013 at 13:22

            Definitely where you stay then, I’ve stayed in 3 areas where I haven’t had any issues with my Telkom line speeds but I have friends who have issues all the time who stay in other areas

          • ToshZA

            October 28, 2013 at 13:24

            You got rather lucky then man. πŸ™‚ Enjoy it, and keep staying in good areas.

            I can’t even get access where I am. In Randburg. Like, 3 blocks from the Multichoice buildings. But no access. I’ve been waiting 2 years for a line to be installed. And, it’s 2 blocks from where I stayed before, with my ADSL line. Go figure.

          • ElimiNathan

            October 28, 2013 at 13:27

            Some areas are just dead zones, Bothasig in Cape Town is one of them. Latency spikes like crazy, not even worth paying for a line cos its unusable

          • ToshZA

            October 28, 2013 at 13:31

            Thats the thing, my ping was really good, so latency wasn’t an issue. Just max line speed. Playing games was no problem online, so line was very stable and very usable, just not max speed.

            Whatever, I’ve given up with Telkom.

  11. Umar heartless

    October 28, 2013 at 11:46

    Man remember the time when you were all excited in the store while you stand anxiously in the line with your brand new PS1 that your loving mom bought for you because you did so well at school? You worked your ass off, putting up with Mrs Erasmus boring comprehensions. You created the finest Essays known to man! And then you got home…plugged your PS1 in, Played the shit out of Crash Bandicoot….

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    • ToshZA

      October 28, 2013 at 11:48

      I never had a PS1. Was an exclusive PC gamer back then. Bought myself a PS2 though, and was no longer purely Master Race.

      I remember when PC games were just an install, crack, pass around to your LAN friends, and kick each other’s asses.

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      • Umar heartless

        October 28, 2013 at 11:48

        lol…..crack? Arrr matey….

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        • ToshZA

          October 28, 2013 at 11:50

          Yeah, that was then, this is now. No more LAN in most games, and I can afford not to pirate since I’ve been working. So, no need to any more.

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          • Umar heartless

            October 28, 2013 at 11:53

            hehe πŸ™‚ yeah dude, know how it goes. But I feel you hey, it’s just not the same anymore. buy a game, validate online and check in while you play …it’s all f**ked up

          • ToshZA

            October 28, 2013 at 11:55

            I miss proper LAN sessions. Most games just do it online now, so whatever. Expanding the community, while killing all your social skills.

            Now we just grab beers and play console on the couch.

          • SargonTheGreatPandaOfAkkad

            October 28, 2013 at 11:57

            I miss the good old days. A Lan with a few good mates connected to a router (or appropriate switch like device) and a ton of beer, pizza, etc. I used to be able to go whole weekends. Now, we’re lucky if we do it once a year for a single evening. Ah well. How the times are changing.

            I generally game with the same people online though. It’s not all bad.

          • ToshZA

            October 28, 2013 at 11:58

            We did our 2am Fontana’s at LAN’s. We used to go all weekend as well. I could never do that now haha.

            I need more local online friends though, most of my online play buddies (is that a term?) are from overseas.

          • SargonTheGreatPandaOfAkkad

            October 28, 2013 at 12:00

            You got the Steam?

          • ToshZA

            October 28, 2013 at 12:01

            Le yebo. Thinguy. Don’t ask.

          • SargonTheGreatPandaOfAkkad

            October 28, 2013 at 12:06

            I shall add upon my return to a Steam friendly network.

          • FSR

            October 28, 2013 at 13:32

            Upvotes for nostalgia to you and Umar.

    • Double-O-Six and a half

      October 28, 2013 at 12:51

      I really miss the good old days of “no patching” for anything, ever (PS2 and early Xbox days)… It meant games developers HAD to get it right first time or fail dismally!!! These days game developers often release what wouldn’t even have been considered Beta code back in the day and work on the premise that they’ll just patch it as needs dictate.
      I hate being used as a non-paid beta tester, and whats worse is that on the consoles they’re developing for a closed system architecture so surely the development process should be easier… Somebody once told me “if debugging is the process of removing bugs from a system, then surely programming is the process of putting bugs in…”
      Sigh, I miss the old days when developers couldn’t get away with delivering cr@p…

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      • Umar heartless

        October 28, 2013 at 16:17

        Same here. Really miss those days too…it all just leaves a huge sour taste in my mouth

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    • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

      October 28, 2013 at 13:28

      πŸ˜€

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  12. Melasco

    October 28, 2013 at 11:58

    I think they start manufacturing and packaging the hardware before the software is finalized… It’s the only way to meet the launch dates. Not ideal but 300Mb is not too bad imo.

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  13. LAblak22

    October 28, 2013 at 12:01

    Ha! Us poor people don’t have to deal with that patch. Mwhahaha — the poverty ridden finally win one! Mwhaha… Wait.

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  14. Umar heartless

    October 28, 2013 at 12:01

    Is it just me or does something smell really fishy with Sony?

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    • ToshZA

      October 28, 2013 at 12:03

      Its the sushi.

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      • Umar heartless

        October 28, 2013 at 12:04

        Or it could be the shady business tactics

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        • ToshZA

          October 28, 2013 at 12:05

          But sushi. πŸ™

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          • Umar heartless

            October 28, 2013 at 12:06

            WHASSSSSSSSSSUBIIIII

          • ToshZA

            October 28, 2013 at 12:07

            I just said that in my head. Laughing my ass off right now. πŸ˜€

            The business ethics, they burn.

          • RangerMossel

            October 28, 2013 at 12:57

            It is agreed then! I shall eat sushi tonight!

  15. Weanerdog

    October 28, 2013 at 12:12

    I don’t know why but that Robbin Williams fellow just gives me the shits. I am really not an aggressive guy, but I really, really want to punch him in the face. And 300 gb patch is really not the end of the world.

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    • SaintsRowNigri

      October 28, 2013 at 12:20

      It is, actually. 300MB download on day one? If it was 2.5 MB then I would have agreed with you. But as the lady stated, she got a slow connection. And why can we not expect something that we have paid thousands for to work out of the box? All features enabled?

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    • Gavin Mannion

      October 28, 2013 at 12:52

      300Gb patch would be more than a serious issue πŸ™‚

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      • Weanerdog

        October 28, 2013 at 13:46

        Mean’t Mb, yes 300 Gb would be a little OTT. But as you can play without it, get the game on and update overnight, even on a slow connection it’ll be done by the next morning.

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  16. Rikus

    October 28, 2013 at 12:44

    I truely think this is taken out on context. Every console Sony has released form the PS3 (read: PS3, PSP, PS VITA) had to be updated to ver 1.50. We just never had to in SA, since we got the consoles much later after release. If you’ve ever played on a modern console, you will know that the games include the update and since this is a day one update, I would expect the launch games to include the 1.50 update on disc. So you don’t need internet to start playing.

    This is the first time I’m hearing about the Blu-Ray/DVD activation, but this probably has to with the movie capability and you need to activate this before you can watch movies. My guess is this has to do with licensing. Similarly to the AAC activation on the PS3 or DIVX activation on the Xbox 360. I can also add the Wii here. It has a DVD drive, but you cannot watch DVD movies because Nintendo opted not to buy the license.

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    • Sageville

      October 28, 2013 at 12:56

      Yeah, we update all the time to play online, it doesn’t bother me that the update happens to be day one.

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  17. Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

    October 28, 2013 at 13:20

    300Mb seems so little, but I’d rather they kept the firmware updated and the engine running smoothly. Of course, I doubt there won’t be teething problems.

    Whenever the cloud is involved, hairy balls are displayed. Hopefully that doesn’t mean a 2gb patch by the time it launches in Mzansi. Fortunately, Yosp assures us that we can play offline, and that the PS4 will download patches in the background. Yay!

    But at least, by the time we get it, the Americans and Europeans would have beta tested for us, and we will be able bath in their tears of joy or dread. I guess the situation is exponentially more so for those 4 people (in South Africa) daring to buy a Xbone 720. Poor bastards….

    Although, it’s a comforting thought that in 2018 all the issues would have been sorted out, and we would benefit from a lengthy paid beta season.

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    • ToshZA

      October 28, 2013 at 13:22

      Many, many people will buy an xbone. Just not in the next year. By then, Sony will have a nice chunk of our local market.

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      • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

        October 28, 2013 at 13:27

        I’m sure, I might even get one myself, but we’re talking about years from now, when it’s shown that the “POWA of THE CLOUDZ” is bollocks, or when ESRAM finally comes into its own as developers become familiar with it.

        But a launch xbone720? Hell no! Not a damn chance! The writing is one the wall, their launch is going to be disastrous. Bookmark my comment lads! A storm is coming!

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        • ToshZA

          October 28, 2013 at 13:28

          We won’t ever get the launch version. We’ll get the one released a year later. So, we won’t ever have that problem. Your point is moot.

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          • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

            October 28, 2013 at 13:32

            I’m hoping for a Xbone720 S, with beefed up internals that can actually output 1080p. But most of all, I’m hoping that the inevitable S comes with a software rewrite, something that’s completely devoid of the DRM-crap they tried to force on us.

          • ToshZA

            October 28, 2013 at 13:33

            The slim versions have always been superior and looked better in every case. It might be a smart move to wait for those.

          • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

            October 28, 2013 at 13:35

            Most definitely, I’m actually toying with the idea of getting an xbox 360 S in 2014, and retiring my old elite to the vault. I think it deserves the rest.

          • ToshZA

            October 28, 2013 at 13:36

            Well, I got the 360S as it was released (upgraded from a PS2 / ancient PC) and have not had a day’s problem with it since then. 3 years? 4? Idk, but its still rocking without any hassles.

          • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

            October 28, 2013 at 13:38

            My elite has been rocking for a couple of years, and I’m sure there’s going to be a nice little sale on the 360S’ next year πŸ˜€ Might even get a backup PS3 as well.

            The man cave must be stocked! πŸ˜€

          • ToshZA

            October 28, 2013 at 13:40

            A PS3 might be a good idea actually. I can get those exclusives I missed. Still, 3DS first. Must play Pokemon.

          • Double-O-Six and a half

            October 29, 2013 at 08:57

            I’m with you on this one, I am even thinking of getting a “spare” one to keep in case something happens to mine… I don’t picture Microsoft keeping the 360 alive for any great length of time (like Sony did with the PS2) as they want everybody to buy into their expensive gesture and voice based TV remote control…

            Hmmm, leads me to an interesting point, I wonder what the XBone does if you give it the finger? If I could I’d program it to switch off the XBone and switch on the PS4…

  18. Hillbillly Gamer

    October 28, 2013 at 13:31

    Starting to wonder what is the point having a console you guys have just the same BS as us PC player these.

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    • ToshZA

      October 28, 2013 at 13:32

      Overall, its cheaper. And there’s local co-op, which PC doesn’t have. And with PS4 you don’t need to be online to play your single player games.

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      • Hillbillly Gamer

        October 28, 2013 at 14:01

        In our defence

        Local co-op : Counter Strike LAN PARTY BABY!!!!!, always classic πŸ™‚

        Only one good game in my opinion, required persistent internet connetion that was AC2, others wil not touch with 20 yard stick that is on fire on the end.

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        • ToshZA

          October 28, 2013 at 14:06

          Diablo 3, local, on the couch, without internet, is awesome. As are certain fighting games (Soul Caliber, Injustice). PC just can’t give that.

          Still, I have both so I really have nothing to complain about.

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          • Hillbillly Gamer

            October 28, 2013 at 14:09

            The best and worse of both worlds. NICE!!!!

          • Brian Murphy

            October 28, 2013 at 18:29

            Wrong. PC can give that, you just don’t want to put your PC in your living room. That’s really the more appropriate thing to say.

            PC has HDMI out, PC has controller support (Steam’s hardware beta candidacy, requires users to access their ‘Big Picture’ UI, and launch a game with a controller. As of this morning, there are 418,234 eligible beta candidates. So clearly, it’s a matter of choice, not the hardware’s ability.

          • ToshZA

            October 28, 2013 at 22:14

            Really, so PC can give you offline Diablo 3, same screen co-op? When did the PC version do that? Oh wait, it didn’t.

            And its not a matter of “don’t want to”, its a matter of can’t. Yes, that’s right. I don’t have the space required to set it up, so no, that’s not the more appropriate thing to say. Way to assume, genius.

            That’s not my point though. There are things consoles give that pc doesn’t. Your games are guaranteed to work on a console. Your pc? Got the latest drivers? Graphics card? What about that game breaking bug that only happens on your specific model of motherboard? Or that screen tearing issue that’s only on your specific graphics card? Console? Pfff, they laugh at those issues. And of course, you don’t currently have to install a game on console to play. You open the package, pop the disc in, and play. If you’re not connected to the internet, you don’t have to update, and you play as you get home. PC? Well enjoy your 45 minute install, followed by a 3 hour update. That last bit is changing sure, but not all games, and at the moment there’s only 1 game I know of that requires an install – GTA 5 – and only on an xbox.

            My point, since you missed it, is that they are different, and provide different experiences. Console has its own advantages. PC isn’t the do all and end all. It has many of its own downfalls. There’s loads of appeal to a console, which is why I actually own one, even though my PC can play games with better graphics. Its about the experience.

            Think of this, since I’m sure you still won’t quite understand what I’ve said above. Emulator vs the real console? Which is better? The real deal, in every case. Why “play” at console gaming with a PC when you can just buy the console and get the full experience? Hint: your graphics card upgrade costs more than a full console.

          • Brian Murphy

            October 29, 2013 at 04:56

            Yeah, because consoles have NEVER had an issue with games. Hey Skyrim, Diablo 3, GTA 5, etc… your hyperbole is lost on someone who actually plays on console and PC.

            You act as if having a mobo issue with a game is a regular thing (hardly EVER, in fact, has never happened to me, or any of my family members), you act as if screen tearing has never happened on consoles (yeah, that’s a laugh). You act like PC’s have the same install times as consoles (laughable hyperbole), it took me less than 45 minutes to reinstall Windows 7 64-bit, Microsoft Outlook, and download and install all of my drivers last time I cleaned my PC and rebuilt it. Installing both DVD’s of Prototype 2, took about you know, 5 minutes.

            So, you’re more than welcome to not want to set your PC up in your living room, never said that wasn’t your choice. But, making goofy claims that this entire console cycle has only helped to undermine? What was even the point?

            And don’t act like you can’t put it in your living room, again, horseshit, you simply lack the motivation/ingenuity/resources/skill to do so. Not a knock against you, some of the form factors you might need to put it together simply requires above average experience to build. And yes, I realize I’ve never seen your house, but unless you live in a closet, you’re simply not motivated enough to do it, and consoles provide a very simple alternative.

          • CRAZY

            October 30, 2013 at 04:36

            YOU’RE SUPPOSED TO SAY “BUT STILL” YOU FUCKING IDIOT!!!!

  19. Uberutang

    October 28, 2013 at 16:32

    IF you do not have fast stable internet, then next gen is not for you.

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  20. Brian Murphy

    October 28, 2013 at 17:19

    Haha, 300m, yeah, I downloaded 28g last night. Sounds like 3rd world problems.

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  21. Robert Sims

    November 1, 2013 at 07:05

    So an internet connection is required to use the Ps4 as it was intended to be used? Xbox got such a bad rep for everything Sony had planed it looks like. its a shame Sony had to be so secretive about their plans, drm looks like it was on the agenda for them also. I just don’t trust them…. they couldn’t keep my personal data safe and now it lookers like they lied to people just to get ahead in the game. such a shame. This is just my opinion though.

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