Remember the Playstation Move? It was those those motion controller glow-ball thingies that were released for the Playstation 3 at some point and were supposed to be all accurate and stuff.
So really, what happened to the Playstation Move? Our comment threads were full of Kinect vs Move comments for the last year or so and since the Move has been released, it’s been very quiet. I think it’s about time we asked what the heck happened. Release day for the Move was fairly quiet and I personally expected my Twitter feed to generate way more buzz in the community than it did.
It seems like some people went out to buy it as planned, while others backed down at the last moment and decided to keep their money for a short while longer. There are a lot of factors involved with why someone would or wouldn’t buy the Move at launch, but I will leave those for you to discuss. So here’s what we want to know:
Did you buy the Move at launch or did you hold off? If you did, are you still using it or is it already collecting dust while you wait for the first hardcore software to release? Is the Move worth it in the end, or should the hardcore gamers just hang on to their money and rather spend it on great games?
It’s Friday folks, the gloves are off, let’s hear it.
Last Updated: October 29, 2010
Uberutang
October 29, 2010 at 10:43
Got the whole Move getup, loving it.
Playing some MAG and mini Golf and tumble on it.
Airtraffic control game is also rad. :kissing:
Now I await my battle rifle attachment !
Just wished the KZ3 demo supported Move also :heart:
Uberutang
October 29, 2010 at 10:44
Is that Jason from True Blood?
Zulu Gamer
October 29, 2010 at 10:47
It sold 1.5 million units in Europe (approximately 1 million in the States, it was only recently sold in Japan, but it’s been well received in the land of the rising sun), and continues to sell out. Which in itself is a remarkable feat since unlike the Kinect it hasn’t been forced down our throats. My guess is by the end of 2010, it would have reached 5 million units in global sale.
We just need more games!
Zulu Gamer
October 29, 2010 at 10:48
I still play it though Tumble is keeping me entertained and I’m obsessed with the last few trophies in Sports Champions.
It would have been nice if Medal of Honor had been given move support 🙁 Sure it’s a mediocre game but I want to go pew pew, and I don’t really care much for MAG.
Milesh Bhana
October 29, 2010 at 10:49
i have the PS3 move, and we play Sports CHampions alot. Waiting for The Shoot, and will grab a gun attachment.
I’ve not had a chance to fire up my copy of Heavy Rain to play with the Move update.
Uberutang
October 29, 2010 at 10:52
I forgot about HR! I have it somewhere!
Zulu Gamer
October 29, 2010 at 10:53
I was going to get the small handgun attachment, but then I saw that battle rifle one on Amazon. Must HAVE!
I guess the only major problem is games at the moment, as much as I enjoy Sports Champions and Tumble, I’ve been playing them for over a month and a half now, which is cool but SONY WE WANT MOAR GAMES!
Kilzone 3 needs to come out now, but only after I have my battle rifle attachment.
Christo Le Grange
October 29, 2010 at 10:57
DUDE, i just wanted to post that! looks like him!hahaha
Christo Le Grange
October 29, 2010 at 11:08
well, like someone said in a thread the other day, prob Kotick, its only in SA that it seems so ‘mellow’.
I dont own a PS3 but I specifically went to Menlyn the Saturday after launch and there was no ‘launch stands’ or playing stands or hype about it… Disappointing, but then again thats what happens when all your staff go to the Drakensburg for the weekend (Laughed my ass off when I heard the SK folk had a weekend getaway at Move launch)
We can all just hope it won’t be the same for the Kinect…I’d just like to SLAP the distributers at the back of their heads, and ask them;”WTF, guys, its motion gaming, we’ve been waiting for, like, ever! Market the sh!t out of it, especially your target market, the families!… dont you like PROFIT!Guess you guys hate profit!FINE!”
Fox1
October 29, 2010 at 11:20
Wii stands in shops were queued up as usual during that same weekend :za:
RSA-Ace
October 29, 2010 at 11:26
Sold to retailers. Still good but not in the consumer’s hands.
RSA-Ace
October 29, 2010 at 11:26
It’s quite cause everyone is playing with them.
AC!D
October 29, 2010 at 11:27
Move is going great and its selling well. Its Lazygamer posting 4 articles a day on Kinect and ignoring Move. If there are Move articles we comment on Move its as simple as that. Move has shipped 2.5 million untis in the first month and considering most places in particular Europe are selling out its looking better than i expected. I expect a nice little boost in sales also when the holidays begin and Japan’s first week figures are released.
I think ppl forget that Sony arent betting the bank on Move like MS is with its $500 million marketing campaign and gimmicky Oprah and Ellen Kinect talk shows. Sony bet the bank on Blu Ray and slowly but surely its working out despite the MS brain washed detractors stating otherwise. I think its prudent not to bet the bank when you have so much competition for motion control already out in the market. Sony needs to save up and market the PSP2 heavily instead in my opinion. Lets hope they pull off a great portable release because that will compliment the steady sales of PS3 nicely.
RSA-Ace
October 29, 2010 at 11:28
Ha ha ha. Yeah that definitely is him!
Zulu Gamer
October 29, 2010 at 11:30
Gaming isn’t such a big thing in South Africa, thus even the Wii launched with very little fan fare. The PS3 and Xbox 360 got a bit more love, but that was probably because the distributors were keen on advertising (and the PS2 was a huge success), but generally, gaming comes third or fourth after braai, rugby and/or football.
It’s getting better now, but gaming is still not mainstream in South Africa, and even the Wii sales reflect that. It wasn’t picked up by non-gaming South Africans to the same degree as elsewhere in the world. With those who were already gamers latched onto the wii, and would probably also have either an xbox 360 or a PS3.
We just need to accept that as a nation, the majority of South Africans are not gamers.
easy
October 29, 2010 at 11:30
hook.line.sinker
this is the comment they were after 😉
Zulu Gamer
October 29, 2010 at 11:33
Gavin how is Move doing in Australia?
Zulu Gamer
October 29, 2010 at 11:39
The shipped vs sold argument? Actually for Europe and the States, they did count “sold” units (instead of merely shipped), but what you should really be asking is, what are they counting. Is it the individual controllers? Is it the cameras with the controller? etc.
But to get back to your point, the shipped vs sold argument no longer applies to Sony or Microsoft, since both actually post figures from retailers. In any case, shipped would still be valid, such the companies would have ‘sold’ stock to retailers, but I get what you’re trying to say, but your point is no longer valid, and hasn’t been since 2007.
RSA-Ace
October 29, 2010 at 11:45
quiet. (Not quite)!
AC!D
October 29, 2010 at 11:49
Happy to oblige with the truth. By the way where are the Kinect reviews from gaming sites? Move reviews were out two weeks before launch. What are MS worried about? They couldnt possibly have deceived ppl about Kinect in anyway could they?
Fred
October 29, 2010 at 12:05
Still enjoying Sports Champions, Planet Minigolf , Traffic control HD with Move. Just need a gun attachment for some light gun action.
easy
October 29, 2010 at 12:09
there is an embargo till the 4th of nov as far as i understand.
Zulu Gamer
October 29, 2010 at 12:09
I just hope lazygamer remains objective, regardless of being mostly xbox 360 gamers* and actually post objective reviews of Kinect and its games in the next few weeks.
*
Of course, Nick has a PS3, but most of his reviews are on xbox 360, and he has mentioned on more than one occasion that he prefers the xbox.
Geoff also mostly reviews on xbox 360, and it seems he kills off all his PS3s by pouring water into them
Gavin although an owner of a wii for the kids, practically lives on xbox live.
The New guy? Miklos? I have no idea. He probably likes to touch himself 😀
Nick de Bruyne
October 29, 2010 at 12:14
It is ! :happy:
Zulu Gamer
October 29, 2010 at 12:16
I hope that Harry Potter Kinect game has been fixed, but I think Dance Central will be very popular, although it is very limited in scope. It’s more like Guitar Hero, instead of actually allowing you to learn dance moves, you’re merely copying what’s on screen. Chicks will dig it like Konami’s Dance dance revolution.
Zulu Gamer
October 29, 2010 at 12:17
@ACID but surely Oprah and Ellen won’t endorse a mellon and deceive the public :O Tyra Banks yes, but Ellen and Oprah? I find that hard to believe.
Zulu Gamer
October 29, 2010 at 12:20
The dude that place Jason in True Blood makes that show bearable, awesome comedic timing. I actually find Snookie and Bill to be the most annoying.
Oh Snookie I love you
Oh Bill I love you…
Yawn!
Zulu Gamer
October 29, 2010 at 12:20
uh plays… not place.. damn you mad cow!
Nick de Bruyne
October 29, 2010 at 12:26
Of course we will be objective :/
We actually only prefer xbox 360 for reviews with multiplayer, as we are better connected to friends on XBL and all have headsets etc. Geoff loves his PS3 to death (literally I think).
You guys have to remember that while we will have fun and partake in flame wars, we are well and truly far past any sort of fanboyism and just love gaming on evereything. Honest truth… The only machine I like a lot less than the others is the Wii, it barely gets any love from me, ever.
Oh, and you may notice we didn’t give the Move review a 2/10 saying “teh Ps3 is da sUxxorz LOL XBOX 4ever!!” :biggrin:
Aussious XBot Leader
October 29, 2010 at 12:27
It will interesting just how the Move will after the 4th November Kinect drops and hits gaming like Nagasaki and Hiroshima…
Nick de Bruyne
October 29, 2010 at 12:30
I actually think the Move is going to benefit with the Kinect launch, as it’s going to put it back in the spotlight and get coverage with the whole vs thing.
The one thing that kinect really has going for it now is that people have seen motion controllers before, but this whole “you are the controller” schpiel is the sort of thing that… Well… Gets Oprah moms all giddy.
RSA-Ace
October 29, 2010 at 12:35
Yes that argument. But this argument is for accessories. I agree for consoles it isn’t valid anymore.
A ship to retailers is great for Sony but no as great for developers. Developers need to know how many consumers have Move controllers.
I think we both understand each other though 😀
http://gamrfeed.vgchartz.com/story/82557/playstation-move-sell-through-update/
RSA-Ace
October 29, 2010 at 12:37
And just to add
“We’ve SHIPPED over one million units in the first month in North and Latin America” – Jack Tretton
Nick de Bruyne
October 29, 2010 at 12:48
Umm, it’s Sookie, not snookie.
And for the record, when Bill says it, it’s : Soooooookkkkkiiiiiiiiiiiiee
Geoffrey Tim
October 29, 2010 at 12:53
Yeah, Snookie’s that fat orange bird from Jersey shore, innit?
al360
October 29, 2010 at 12:54
i gotta move it move it i gotta move it move it i gotta move it move it i gotta move it move it MOVE IT!!!
(think chief in madagascar) :silly: :silly:
i love my move all 3 of them actually hahahahhahaha
Ndibu
October 29, 2010 at 12:54
Shipped, not sold. Shipped to retailers. There aren’t 2.5 million Moves in people’s homes. There are 2.1 million Moves in shops
Ndibu
October 29, 2010 at 12:58
What’s a Move?
Imphobia
October 29, 2010 at 13:08
Just not enough games worth it. It’s true for the Playstation Move like for Kinect right now.
Aussious XBot Leader
October 29, 2010 at 13:11
Hahn good one…
Steve Hofmeyr
October 29, 2010 at 13:37
I got move but I’m already bored with sports champions ( I had a Wii). Maybe I should pick up MAG, looks interesting
Miklós Szecsei
October 29, 2010 at 13:39
@Zulu Gamer: you don’t know what platforms I play on so you assume I touch myself…? I… umm… WHAT? :wassat:
But FYI: I have them all as well. I seem to be spending more time on my Xbox at the moment, but that will change soon when I get more PS3 games, or PC games, or Wii games to review… It really just depends on what I’m playing at the moment. I do not buy into the whole console fanboy shitfest; I’m way too busy, you know, playing games. :tongue:
Zulu Gamer
October 29, 2010 at 13:50
Snookie, Sookie same boring vamp lover 😛
Zulu Gamer
October 29, 2010 at 13:52
@Miklos, Hey, it was a valid guess 😛 You are the controller.. ho ho ho!
Zulu Gamer
October 29, 2010 at 13:56
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Miklós Szecsei
October 29, 2010 at 13:57
LOL! You amuse me; have a cookie. :cheerful:
Zulu Gamer
October 29, 2010 at 13:58
@Aussious Xbot Leader …or maybe Kinect will be Microsoft’s Vietnam?
Zulu Gamer
October 29, 2010 at 14:01
@RSA-Ace VGcharts? Didn’t they recently write a long diatribe to account for underestimating Move sales? Oh that’s the one.
But no one takes them seriously any more.
Zulu Gamer
October 29, 2010 at 14:08
Judging by your previous comments on the PS3, I seriously doubt that you actually own a PS3 or move. 😀
Zulu Gamer
October 29, 2010 at 14:08
Aussious = Ndibu? Or has it spawned another troll?
Christo Le Grange
October 29, 2010 at 14:09
haha…there you have it folks, you heard it here first …Nick De Bruynes’ official statement is “teh Ps3 is da sUxxorz LOL XBOX 4ever!!”
lol!
Zulu Gamer
October 29, 2010 at 14:12
Thank you sir, but can it rather be an achievement? Like, Achievement Unlocked: Made Miklos chuckle with delight!
Zulu Gamer
October 29, 2010 at 14:13
Quick post it on twitter!! Spread the word!
Zulu Gamer
October 29, 2010 at 14:16
Does anyone know how the Fight is for PS Move?
AC!D
October 29, 2010 at 14:30
It’s only coming out on the 16th so i doubt anyone has tried the latest build of the game. Im tempted myself not for the game but because MR Machete himself is in the game 😎
There will probably be a demo as with all Move games on PSN a week before release.
Geoffrey Tim
October 29, 2010 at 14:31
Yeah, Danny Trejo (Machete, the Mexican Chuck Norris) says it’s rad..and i’ll believe anything he says.
Zulu Gamer
October 29, 2010 at 14:49
Isn’t he your trainer in the game as well?
Danny Trejo >> Chuck Norris!
RSA-Ace
October 29, 2010 at 14:50
Yes VGChartz. While I don’t agree with their numbers or how they get their data the worst they can do is under sell something.
Fred
October 29, 2010 at 14:54
I want a move game where you can punch zombies in the face till their heads explode. I think The Fight will be ok , but might still need some work as a first generation move game.
Ndibu
October 29, 2010 at 14:57
So glad you asked. NowGamer has given The Fight a 4.2. . .out of 10. Something about intrusive calibrations bla bla bla. Point is, you can’t move forward or else you’ll mess up the calibrations and will have to reset. Lol.
Oh and anybody else notice how Move was supposedly well recieved in Japan, according to an uninformed commenter, but failed to do anything for the ps3’s sales during its launch week last week? Yeah in fact, ps3 sales were down. System seller huh? Lol
easy
October 29, 2010 at 15:00
rest easy tonight china, your work here is done.
Zulu Gamer
October 29, 2010 at 15:05
So glad you commented because in terms of review reliability:
Nowgamer < Hip Hop gamer <IGN < Destructoid = Eurogamer < Gamespot < Lazygamer < Kotaku
Nick de Bruyne
October 29, 2010 at 15:08
We tried The Fight at E3 and it was pretty terrible, I hope its better at launch because something like that would be awesome.
Danny Trejo was also playable in Def Jam (can’t remember which one) on PS2
Zulu Gamer
October 29, 2010 at 15:09
Quick call Oprah, all the consoles were doing badly last week, and those figures are “terrible” (sarcasm) lol, you’re funny dude.
Japanese Hardware sales week ended October 24 (previous week):
PSP: 32,591 (37,127)
PS3: 20,128 (22,201)
DSi LL: 15,819 (21,084)
DSi: 14,703 (20,749)
Wii: 11,971 (12,810)
DS Lite: 3,887 (5,268)
X360: 2,162 (2,342) <– LOL!
PS2: 1,222 (1,715)
PSP go: 924 (1,590) <– LOL!
What about the sales for PS Move dude? Thought so! 😆
Zulu Gamer
October 29, 2010 at 15:16
I think it was the second one. Danny Trejo is one of the most underrated actors ever! He should be in more movies.
Zulu Gamer
October 29, 2010 at 15:17
Let’s revisit this topic when this week’s Japanese totals are released. :sleeping:
Zulu Gamer
October 29, 2010 at 15:18
That’s not a lot of time to improve the game, but I’ll stay optimistic. Hopefully it’s not as dismal as that boxcart one, whatever it’s called.
Ndibu
October 29, 2010 at 15:27
Lol at lazygamer being so high up.
It is what it is, so far The Fight is a 4.2 game. Hate it or love it.
YOU claimed Move was well recieved in Japan, yet it failed to raise ps3 hardware sales I mean it can’t have had any impact if the week it releases sales go down. It does not matter if sales were down for the other consoles, they didn’t have a major wiildo device releasing. Looks like nobody wants move expect die hard Sony apologists
Zulu Gamer
October 29, 2010 at 15:31
Incidentally, I do hope kinect helps xbox 360 sales…
🙁
http://bit.ly/b0mW9d
Zulu Gamer
October 29, 2010 at 15:46
Lol Dude.
Not really since, even with the European and American Move sales, there wasn’t much of a gain in new PS3 sales from previously. It seems those who are buying PS move are PS3 owners.
So your point that it’s “failed to raise PS3 hardware sales” is moot. You could actually argue that for Japan since the market is already saturated you won’t see a huge rush to buy PS3s, but rather increased PS Move sales as the local gamers latch onto it, and that’s exactly what’s happening. PS3 is selling at a constant rate.
MS on the other hand is banking on shipping new xbox 360s on the back of Kinect since they’d rather be big with casual gamers instead of their current gaming base.
Two different strategies at play here, and we’ll only now whether MS’s gamble will pay off after christmas.
Ndibu
October 29, 2010 at 16:05
Actually the whole idea was to try and get new customers. Now that this has failed for Sony, you people are running to its defence by claiming they never wanted to widen their demographic. They want the casual market but their strategy of monkey see monkey do didn’t take with customers, people do not want Wii HD.
Zulu gamer
October 29, 2010 at 16:20
Real numbers:
Wii – 8.45m
PS3 – 8.1m
360 – 5.8m
VG Chartz numbers:
Wii – 9.2m
PS3 – 7.4
360 – 7.0
Checkmate!
Zulu gamer
October 29, 2010 at 16:21
@RSA-Ace Not if it’s xbox 360, they never under report xbox 360 values. (read my above post)
Fox1
October 29, 2010 at 16:23
If I want blu-ray I go buy a blu-ray player. If I want Kinect? There’s only one Kinect :tongue:
Zulu gamer
October 29, 2010 at 16:26
And yet PS3 sales have been steady 😀
As long as it outsells the xbox 360 on a year by year basis (with potentially overtaking the xbox 360 in totals by next year), I’m confident Sony doesn’t worry too much.
Granted, something tells me Kinect will be a thorn in their (sony) side though, so who knows maybe they’ll go on the offensive over christmas.
A little too late if you ask me though, but we’ll have to see if Kinect gets microsoft more xbox live subscribers or whether much like with the slim release of last year the increase in numbers were initially high but then started to tapper off below PS3 annual sales and almost below global PS2 sales.
Steve Hofmeyr
October 29, 2010 at 16:39
Lol. Note that I’ve never actually said anything bad about the PS3, I just love to argue with Bobby, lans and Ac!d since they seem to hate the Xbox so much. Somebody needs to stand up to them, right?
Anyway, I can list my PSN ID, games I own, etc. but I’d rather not waste my time.
Zulu gamer
October 29, 2010 at 16:54
List it, I’ll add you and tonight we can play Medal of honor together. We can snipe Frenchies.
Steve Hofmeyr
October 29, 2010 at 16:55
@Zulu
A lot of holes in your argument. (Please don’t take this as an “I hate PS3” post, I do own a PS3, really)
1. The market for PS3 is saturated in Japan?… No, not sure how you arrived at that point.
2. Sony always wanted to grab a share in the casual market, hence the very casual-friendly launch line-up. No spike = No casual market interest.
3. Xbox 360 Slim release of last year? The slim was revealed at E3 this year (2010). Not sure what you are referring to.
Ndibu
October 29, 2010 at 16:58
Too late? What are you on about? xbox 360 is still ahead…and kinect BUNDLES are climbing the charts on pre-orders.
Did Sony develop and release Move so that sales would be steady? If so then they are retarded.
Microsoft is going for the kill and by the looks of things, that thorn is more akin to a dagger.
Anyway how did we start talking Kinect? Point is this, Move has failed to do what Sony wanted it to do, expand their market into the Blue Ocean segment. No need to drag Kinect into this unles you’re trully looking to embarrass yourself as far as sales go.
Summary. Move- obvious wiimote knock off intended to expand Sony’s market. Result-identity crisis trying to be hardcore and casual and failing at both as the SOFTWARE and HARDWARE data proves.
Primary objective to increase base: FAILED
Zulu gamer
October 29, 2010 at 17:05
And yet the slim isn’t selling or adding a huge amount of new xbox players. In fact, if you look at the numbers of the last 5 years, the slim sales values are actually weaker than previous years (in the states), but as I said, we’ll see what impact kinect has (if any) on the weekly, monthly and yearly xbox tally. 😀
Zulu gamer
October 29, 2010 at 17:11
@Steve It’s saturated, although gaming is HUGE in Japan and the gaming market there eclipses anything around the world except for the US and the UK market, there are only a limited number of young Japanese in the 18 to 40 age group. Not too surprising considering it’s an ageing country (with most of the population over the age of 50 – almost 60% of the 125 million pop is over 50, that leaves about 25% of the pop in the 18 to 40 age group). That’s why Nintendo targeted the elderly with the Wii and DS, because they are a new market.
Ndibu
October 29, 2010 at 17:16
So you’ve conceded that move has failed to do what it was meant to and now you wanna talk about x360? I just want to know before we carry on.
Zulu gamer
October 29, 2010 at 17:17
We can go a step further, if about 25% of the Japanese population is in the 18 to 40 age group, that means about 35 million in that age group, half of which would be male 15.6 million.
In other words 15.6 million prospective gamers (not a lot of you consider the amount of tech being sold in Japan), but obviously not all will be gamers (and give or take a few female gamers, but they’ll be a tiny minority anyway).
IN OTHER WORDS! THE JAPANESE GAMING MARKET IS SATURATED!
I believe they call this a checkmate or is it a teabagging 😛
Zulu gamer
October 29, 2010 at 17:20
slim = new xbox 360 not talking about PS3.
Zulu gamer
October 29, 2010 at 17:26
Also don’t forget gaming hardware sales have been declining universally in Japan for the last few years another sign that it is oversaturated
Ndibu
October 29, 2010 at 17:28
Why are you focusing on explaining saturation when I asked you a simple question? Do you concede that Move has failed to accomplish its primary objective and that is why now you want to talk about the slim which has been out for 4 months
Ndibu
October 29, 2010 at 17:35
Steve buddy you should not have mentioned saturation because now he’s like a dog with a bone and trying to ignore that Move has failed to expand sony’s market
Zulu gamer
October 29, 2010 at 17:39
If the primary objective of Move was to sell units and make a profit, then yes it has been a success. If you’re basing “success” on whether PS Move sales are driving new PS3 sales than I really don’t know yet. No one knows, but we’ll see those trends in the next few months.
So far, sales of PS3 between Apr-Jun to Jun-Sep jumped from 2.2 million PS3s (sold between Apr-Jun) to 3.5 million PS3s (sold during Jun-Sep). Was it because of the imminent PS Move launch? I don’t know.
Don’t forget, Sony hasn’t advertised it heavily and in fact has downplayed it a lot. Who knows why though, but I guess they’re trying something new?
But to get back to your point, we don’t know yet, but we’ll see whether PS3 sales increases over the Dec period and how much PS Move sold and whether the two are related.
PS: Why are you so upset? I was writing a reply to Steve Hofmeyer’s insistence that the Japanese gaming market is not saturated.
Steve Hofmeyr
October 29, 2010 at 17:50
Checkmate or Teabaging? Lol
Currently in Japan:
the PS3 is at 6 million
The Wii is at 11 million
THe PS2 is at 25 million
(The Xbox is nowhere)
Let’s look at your original comment:
“You could actually argue that for Japan since the market is already saturated you won’t see a huge rush to buy PS3s”
To me it seems like there are a lot of gamers in Japan that doesn’t own the PS3 since the PS3’s market share is kind of weak. Which brings us back to the original argument -> PS move did nothing (thus far) in Japan
That aside, if what you are saying is true, then Sony would be in serious trouble since one of their strongholds are saturated at 6 million PS3’s sold. Oh Dear. Why bother with Japan at all? This would give them even more motivation to market the move to casuals because “The hardcore market is saturated” as you say.
Steve Hofmeyr
October 29, 2010 at 17:55
Xbox360 sold 3.1 million world wide since July 2010 to October (slim sales).
In the same period last year, they sold 2.0 million
I don’t know where you get your “facts” from
You = Fail
Zulu gamer
October 29, 2010 at 18:06
In the period between April and September the xbox 360 sold a total of 4.3 million whereas the PS3 sold 5.9 million. Incidentally, the PS2 sold 3.1 million. Right on the heels of the big M 😀
Zulu gamer
October 29, 2010 at 18:16
I guess you missed my comment about Nintendo embracing causals, especially since they’re potentially a much bigger market in Japan, or at least were, but gaming has been in decline in general in Japan, and the major problem is casuals are not habitual gamers and therefore less likely to buy every single title.
I think all three companies would love to turn casual gamers into hardcore gamers though, but so far casuals are not really biting.
Zulu gamer
October 29, 2010 at 18:27
Anyway, it’s interesting that even though the xbox 360 arcade was cheaper than the Wii (prior to the launch of the slim and even now), it still doesn’t sell more than the wii.
:dizzy:
Zulu gamer
October 29, 2010 at 18:30
lol, also just in the news Kinect ships 14 million. So what happened to the “shortage”? :whistle:
http://n4g.com/news/636073/kinect-cameras-ship-14-million-units
Zulu gamer
October 29, 2010 at 18:32
Oh wait, that’s only the camera modules, guess it means they’re shipping about 7 million completed units (if Kinect has 2 cameras).
Zulu gamer
October 29, 2010 at 18:33
They sold 1.5 million in Europe, but shipped 2 million in the States, which resulted in 1 million sales.
Ndibu
October 29, 2010 at 18:34
No, that wasn’t Move’s primary objective, the primary objective was to EXPAND Sony’s market to INCLUDE CASUAL DEMOGRAPHIC. I dunno how many times I gotta say that.
It has clearly failed if ps3 sales have remained flat which means there is no casual market adoption like they hoped.
Ps lol at sales BEFORE Move being due to anticipation of Move. Lol. Nice try though
Zulu gamer
October 29, 2010 at 18:36
Really? You don’t say, I thought it was all profit driven. :whistle:
Capitalism learns something new from Ndibu, CEO of Sony.
Zulu gamer
October 29, 2010 at 18:37
Cough! or 4.6 million with 3 cameras.
Ndibu
October 29, 2010 at 18:38
We’ll talk about x360 sales which are ahead of Wii and ps3 in a moment, once you’ve conceded that Move failed its objective. Only then can we talk about wii and x360 and how x360 has been number 1 for 4 months now and how kinect is set to start luring that wii crowd
Zulu gamer
October 29, 2010 at 18:42
lol, no they’re not. Dude, stop quoting from VGChartz, NO ONE.. and I mean NO ONE except xbots believe those figures, especially for the period between Jan – September 2010.
“Herp derp Xbox is number 1” regardless of actual sales figures for this year showing that the xbox 360 is just a million and a half above the PS2. THE PS2 dude!! Do you know how dismal that is.
Ndibu
October 29, 2010 at 18:50
Sigh…again with avoiding the subject. I’m not entertaining that until I hear you conceding Move and it’s impact or lack thereof…you know like the title of the article says, where’s Move??
Ndibu
October 29, 2010 at 18:54
And to end off my arguement, exhibit F(for FAIL)
http://bit.ly/ck7uy1
I won’t give you an xbot site, no, I’ll give you a Ps3 centric site.
What did you call it? Teabagging? Checkmate? I’ll let you have your pick. Leave some humble pie for Acid ok? Don’t be greedy
Ndibu
October 29, 2010 at 19:08
Tell your friends about me. I’m out
Zulu gamer
October 29, 2010 at 19:24
Lol, so not even a week of sale in Japan and you’re throwing all your toys out of the cot.
😉 I believe you’ve just teabagged yourself. PS Move is slow and steady.
Ndibu
October 29, 2010 at 19:45
Aaaw…cute so the new excuse is slow and steady? Less than 7000 in 4 days for a new product that is meant to usher in a new market? Ha ha ha ha! Even halo reach had more sales in japan during it’s first week out. Lmao at the new spin. Im done playing with you kid. Move has failed, you’re the only one throwing your toys out, me, I’m elated at having proven my point with cold hard facts and numbers. What do you have? Just you wait and see, Move is slow but steady! You’ll see in December! Lol. Lets talk here and now, you since the article was written today and since it was YOU who claimed Move did great in the land of the rising sun. Remember that lil bit of misinformation you were spreading? I’m curious to find out just where you had drawn that lil tid bit of blatant lie.
Please provide the link where you got that nonsense from
RSA-Ace
October 29, 2010 at 20:24
You say failed but Sony has spend near nothing for marketing. They are easily making $20 profit on each unit sold. While it may not be this monstrous success it in no means failed.
Same as PS Home. I find it useless but it’s bringing in millions for Sony.
Luna
October 30, 2010 at 05:10
Move isn’t out yet. How in the world can they even tell us that they sold when they aren’t being sold?
Luna
October 30, 2010 at 05:11
Wow got myself mixed up there. Maybe I shouldn’t post in comments when I get home on a Friday night. ^_~
Fox1
October 30, 2010 at 07:42
Millions are not enough. They need billions :angel:
Just 2 weeks ago 80% of Sony LCD TV production was pushed off for 3rd parties to manufacture and that’s considering the massive Bravia campaign.
I still feel that if a product rocks, then word of mouth will bring in the sales.
Gavin Mannion
October 30, 2010 at 11:38
@ZuluGamer… lol I probably play on the Wii as much as the Xbox.
As for reviews, we review on the platform that is sent to us. There isn’t much else to it
Gavin Mannion
October 30, 2010 at 11:39
There hasn’t been much said about the Move in Australia, no adverts or marketing to speak off. I have no idea about the actual figures.
Bobby Kotick for Dummies
October 30, 2010 at 13:00
It appears I missed a lovely party yesterday :(. It’s odd though that a discussion on the PS Move ended up in a monkey faeces slinging contest about which console is the best, with sales figures quoted with gusto and bravado. *clap clap*
By Zeus lads, given the level of crazed fundamentalism amongst gamers is there truly any hope for Israel and the Palestinians? :cwy:
But I digress, as for the topic at hand, I’m still into my PS Move. The wife enjoys it a lot as well, but as a few have already mentioned, we need more Move-enabled titles. I am disappointed though that Sony didn’t release additional IPs in Japan for the Move’s launch. A part of me, is kind of annoyed that recent FPS games are not move-enabled, imagine being able to use your gun attachment for Black Ops or even Medal of Hono(u)r? Now that would have been awesome!
Bobby Kotick for Dummies
October 30, 2010 at 13:15
Which is rather ironic Fox, since Sony posted profits on this quarter (3 months leading up to September).
“This equates to a 57.3 billion yen year-on-year turnaround on the 26.3 billion yen loss recorded in the same period in 2009.”
http://www.uknetguide.co.uk/Latest-News/Sony-returns-to-profit-800203907.html
Sure, I know you’re going to say, “but but.. they’ve posted a ‘gazillion’ loss so far which is… (insert general response about losses on PS3s which hasn’t been valid since 2007)”
RSA-Ace
October 30, 2010 at 13:54
Well it seems like PS Move may have helped push more PS3’s than Halo Reach did for Xbox. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v103/Trunkswd/VGChartz/Last10Weeks-5.jpg
lans
October 30, 2010 at 14:53
Xbox 360 is only 500k ahead of ps3!!!
lol
Xbox 360 42 million units sold !
Ps3 41.5 million sold!
so everything really depends on kinect lol!
Info to back up my statements
Official Sony sources
you gonna have to dig it out
http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/financial/fr/viewer/10q2/
Compiled info
http://www.gamersmint.com/sony-q2-2010-results-announced
http://www.kingps3.com/view/news.php?id=5262
Microsoft Sources
http://bit.ly/dvEWYM
AC!D
November 1, 2010 at 10:17
Humble pie for what???? Everything ive said is true. Should i even bother to educate you or is this another case of speaking to a brainwashed brick wall like Aussious??? Let me give it a try and not right you off as one dimensional as Aussious.
Just follow the link…..http://n4g.com/news/636344/weekly-sales-analysis-23-october-2010-fallout-new-vegas-debut
That should be proof enough for you and the fact that the PS3 still has at least 2 price cuts left over its life cycle should encourage Sony that the PS3 has and always will be on the right track despite its poor start where short sighted ppl who couldnt see the benefits of Blu Ray + a HDD in every console were calling it the worst console ever.
By the way. Pro tip for when you get info from VG Chartz…..Wait for them to make their adjustments because they are so way off on their initial figures its sad at times. When NPD is rleased then they make their adjustments and all is well on VG Chartz.
As for Japan its early days. Lets actually wait and get the monthly figures. Media Create hansnt released any figures for Move yet although PS3 selling better than the DS should be your first hint shouldnt it??
As for Kinect ill be first on here eating humble pie when i see proof that the peripheral works in unscripted videos and MS controlled environments. At the moment its just an over priced peripheral that doesnt have half the functionality of what was promised at E3 last year. Also my friend you better pray that Kinect doesnt sell well or Xbox 360 will become a casual console and i think we can all agree on here we dont want that. Playstation Move can go to hell if its going top fuck with resources devoted to games like The last Guardian, God of War, Uncharted,Resistance, Killzone, Ratchet and many others i love.
Bobby Kotick for Dummies
November 1, 2010 at 10:28
So who are you dude?
Steve Hofmeyr
November 1, 2010 at 11:20
You seem rather excited for a person not caring about sales. Remember -> “Play games not sales” -> “Quality over quantity”, etc, etc.
Anyway, in the article you posted, it says:
“A new sales report states that worldwide sales for the PS3 currently rest at 41.6 million, just 2.9 million below the total XBox 360 sales (44.5 million)”
http://www.kingps3.com/view/news.php?id=5262
The article was posted the 29th of October 2010.
I guess the “Warrior of Truth” strikes again. 😆
lans
November 1, 2010 at 11:36
hey steve please dont go there im in enough trouble as it is ok 😛