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Killzone: Shadow Fall could have been 290Gb

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Gavin’s already told you that the next-gen Call of Duty clocks in at just shy of 50Gb on the PlayStation 4 – which is nearly the entirety of a single sided, single layer Blu-ray. Killzone: Shadow Fall is similarly large, clocking in at just under 40Gb. Only it could have been bigger.

Speaking to Eurogamer, Guerrilla Game’s technical director, Michiel van der Leeuw revealed that the game once clocked in at 290Gb.

”I think at some point the disc image that we were generating was around 180 gigs. And if we would have put all the levels in, which we didn’t, because then the disc image generator broke, it would have been around 290 gigs of data.”

“So we had to completely re-architect how we deal with data. And we did a lot of work – this is actually something I’m extremely proud of – to optimize our disc access pattern. Sony made special libraries for us because we were the first ones hitting these sort of problems. I think it’s something that a lot of people will need to be doing in future.”

Most of the data is taken up, unsurprisingly, by textures.

”The bulk of it is textures. I think we’re probably a lot larger than the other cross-generation games, because we have no assets that have been made to a lower spec. The surface area, I’m just guessing here, must be five to 10 times bigger than Killzone 3 was.”

Of course, none of this should be a surprise. Uncompressed game textures are often terabytes of data, and have to be compressed to fit on such silly things as optical discs.

It does beg the question though; if we’re already starting to hit such large quantities of data for launch games, are we going to be stuck with disc swopping again in the next gen?

Last Updated: October 25, 2013

37 Comments

  1. Ultimo_Cleric N7

    October 25, 2013 at 12:06

    First World Problems
    #Nextgenproblems

    Reply

  2. John's (JJ's) Steaming backlog

    October 25, 2013 at 12:06

    Killzone intrigues me.

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    • Otto_ki

      October 25, 2013 at 12:08

      The name keeps popping up more and more, I think it about time to try out this game to see what all the hubbub is about

      Reply

      • Ultimo_Cleric N7

        October 25, 2013 at 12:09

        The reason everyone is so excited (me included) is that it just look so damn pretty. And the gameplay looks fun.

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      • John's (JJ's) Steaming backlog

        October 25, 2013 at 12:09

        That’s my chain of thinking there too.

        Reply

  3. Admiral Chief Ninja

    October 25, 2013 at 12:09

    What is disc swapping precious?

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    • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

      October 25, 2013 at 12:10

      Lol

      Reply

      • Admiral Chief Ninja

        October 25, 2013 at 12:11

        Hoekom is jou Skype af? Kuier jy alweer?

        Reply

        • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

          October 25, 2013 at 12:11

          oh oops. PC het gerestart. Vergeet om weer in te log

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          • Admiral Chief Ninja

            October 25, 2013 at 12:12

            verkeerde plek om te praat oor restarts van PC dude…

          • hayted

            October 25, 2013 at 12:20

            That deserves a thumbs up :). Lol.

          • Admiral Chief Ninja

            October 25, 2013 at 12:22

            😉

          • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

            October 25, 2013 at 12:41

            Lol

  4. SaintsRowNigri

    October 25, 2013 at 12:10

    No disc swopping. Learn something from PC installs. Install all discs to HDD. Have 1 disc in drive if you have to…

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    • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

      October 25, 2013 at 12:11

      Consoles have limited disc sizes. That’s the main problem.

      PC’s you can just carry on adding discs. Consoles not

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      • Admiral Chief Ninja

        October 25, 2013 at 12:11

        *disk

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        • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

          October 25, 2013 at 12:19

          ja ja

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      • SaintsRowNigri

        October 25, 2013 at 12:15

        OK. Now you are asking for shit. Console gamers are not all retards, you know? Well, it seems as PC gamers are, as they’ve never heard about this thing called Uninstall???

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        • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

          October 25, 2013 at 12:18

          You really want to install and uninstall constantly? I don’t know. I hate that lol

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          • SaintsRowNigri

            October 25, 2013 at 12:20

            Ag jy weet, dis maar iets wat ons console plebs maar doen, jy weet. Ek neem aan jy is een van die Steam fanboys hier rond?

          • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

            October 25, 2013 at 12:39

            Not steam fanboy no. I’d just rather install another harddrive than uninstall old games lol. Even if I never will play again hehe

          • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

            October 25, 2013 at 12:39

            Not steam fanboy no. I’d just rather install another harddrive than uninstall old games lol. Even if I never will play again hehe

      • TiMsTeR1033

        October 25, 2013 at 12:38

        Thing Is they already on blu rays discs! how much bigger are games gonna get! maybe its time to make like 8 layer bluray discs or something lol

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        • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

          October 25, 2013 at 12:40

          Games, much like any other form of anything, will expand to push the limits of its own industry. No matter how big storage becomes, games will continue to grow simply because it’s allowed to

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        • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

          October 25, 2013 at 12:40

          Games, much like any other form of anything, will expand to push the limits of its own industry. No matter how big storage becomes, games will continue to grow simply because it’s allowed to

          Reply

        • CypherGate

          October 25, 2013 at 13:51

          Next gen using 50gig discs and taking up most of its space…. PC games install up to 20gig of space… need i say more… hehehehe… (First time trol)

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      • TiMsTeR1033

        October 25, 2013 at 12:38

        Thing Is they already on blu rays discs! how much bigger are games gonna get! maybe its time to make like 8 layer bluray discs or something lol

        Reply

    • Otto_ki

      October 25, 2013 at 12:11

      Disk drive 0_O im pretty sure if I open mine a bunch of moths and dust will fly out.

      Reply

  5. Unavengedavo(aka. IceCreamMan)

    October 25, 2013 at 12:18

    The more things change, the more they stay the same…

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    • ToshZA

      October 25, 2013 at 12:19

      Soon games should be coming on flash drives that are locked to read-only.

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    • MosselMayCry

      October 25, 2013 at 13:32

      lol “Type INSTALL and press ENTER” – the days before double click.

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      • Sageville

        October 25, 2013 at 15:38

        Abort, Retry, Fail….

        Hated mutli-stiffy games, always that bad sector on the last frikken disk, ALWAYS!

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        • MosselMayCry

          October 25, 2013 at 15:49

          hahaha! omw I forgot about those bad sectors! Good times. I was like 5 years old when my dad taught me to type C:dir to give you the directory!

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  6. SPDHUNTER

    October 25, 2013 at 12:48

    I would think that the Blu-ray drives in the PS4 and Xbox One will probably use the BDXL(128GB) format so that disc swapping is not an issue.

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  7. CypherGate

    October 25, 2013 at 13:49

    They will just expect you to install all discs and then play the game. So no disc swopping needed.

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  8. MacDoodle

    October 25, 2013 at 17:09

    This is great news and I think it also demonstrates why exclusives are just so damned shweet

    Reply

  9. Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

    October 25, 2013 at 18:25

    Isn’t it a bonus that you can just upgrade your PS4 harddrive (much like your PS3 hd) to whatever size you need. Good ol’ Sony!

    Reply

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