So all those who were at rAge this weekend at least got to see a PlayStation 4 and Xbox One even if you didn’t manage to get to play on one.

So now that we have close to first hand knowledge it’s time to chat and see which one you are planning on getting… I’ve jotted down some pro’s and con’s for each console below to help the argument discussion.

PlayStation 4

PS4 with controller-580-100

Pros

  • Being released locally this year
  • Cheaper
  • Apparently more powerful
  • PSN+ (Free game library)
  • Touchpad on Controller
  • Vastly Improved Controller
  • Great Dev Support

Cons

  • Lack of exciting launch titles
  • Dodgy Headset
  • PS Eye inferior
  • Not backwards compatible with games or accessories

Xbox One

XboxOneRetail

Pros

  • Amazing launch titles
  • Haptic triggers on control
  • Xbox Live
  • Kinect included
  • Paid-for exclusives thanks to Microsoft
  • Lots of extra TV features if you live in America or use Unotelly

Cons

  • Kinect included
  • More expensive
  • Releases locally next year
  • Can’t stand vertically
  • Not backwards compatible with games or accessories

Now here is the hearsay part, when speaking to most journalists at the Lazygamer party I was very surprised to hear that most of them would prefer to get the Xbox One simply because of the better launch titles and those haptic triggers. 

I personally am not sold on the controller; the triggers are cool and all but I don’t find the controller to be that comfortable with the sharp angles actually being uncomfortable after a while.

But what we really want to know is what you think? Are you Rockefeller and will be getting both or are you going to hold out for the Xbox One or is the temptation of playing next gen games this year just too much to resist?

Last Updated: October 9, 2013

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396 Comments

  1. Downloadable content John

    October 9, 2013 at 12:33

    You put the ‘Kinect included’ in the wrong place there, ah wait. Now I see it….
    I must say, and this is nitpicking. But I like the fact that my PS3 can stand vertically. Saves me a load of space. It’s a real bummer about the Xbone not being able to do that (or at least not officially)

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    • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

      October 9, 2013 at 13:48

      Also vertical is good for heat reduction, so I have no idea why the Bone can’t do that. It’s a bit silly if you think about it.

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      • Downloadable content John

        October 9, 2013 at 13:49

        Yes, you’re right. That is silly. Kind of put me off a bit, along with a few other things.

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        • slop_E_secnds

          October 11, 2013 at 00:33

          what an absolutely rediculous thing to put you off from buying a console. Really counter space is your problem… really? This is litterally the last thing on my mind when purchasing a console. Oh no you have to make room for the most amazing piece of tech in your entire living room. Big deal

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          • Downloadable content John

            October 11, 2013 at 07:25

            Really ripping the dam from under the ducks arse there a bit slop-e. Read: “put me off a bit”. I’m not going to NOT buy a console because it put off a bit. Then I wouldn’t even be living in this country if I had to abandon everything that put me off “a bit”.
            And I have the most amazing piece of tech already. It’s called a pc.

          • Daren Pitt

            October 11, 2013 at 10:12

            its a sad day when your pc is the most amazing tech you own

          • DarenBlowsMen

            October 11, 2013 at 22:12

            Daren Pitt, more like Daren small penis

          • Surging

            October 11, 2013 at 21:13

            Putting your console Vertically is the new age, and Playstation made sure there console looked good doing it !!!. X-bone looks like a 80’s VCR LOL…..

          • Camile Malono

            October 12, 2013 at 00:21

            Ps4 looks worse

          • Surging

            October 12, 2013 at 16:40

            You must be the sadest xbox fanboy in the world.

          • GrimmPaladin

            October 13, 2013 at 01:55

            Well, you’re also pretty sad considering that you’re saying this to an obvious child.

          • Big Jugs

            October 22, 2013 at 19:58

            He/she is right though, I’d rather a 1980’s vcr than some horrible slanting ‘wacky’ shape.

          • Surging

            October 22, 2013 at 22:55

            DUST the cancer of eletronics with the ability to slow down fans and get on Lasers that read your game discs, The PS4 was designed to keep dust out, and well your 1980’s vcr is going to get clogged up in the first few months its going to get mighty hot.. That is why the PS4 has the top coming out further than the bottom and well the front looks sweet better than the xbone..

      • NecroRince

        October 9, 2013 at 14:01

        You could do an OVG, and just put it into a vertical position while it’s running? BWAHAHAHAHA

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      • Frax

        October 10, 2013 at 11:42

        It is good for heat reduction when it is designed that way, this design doesn’t really seem to get any “special” benefit from being placed vertically, since heat goes up and the vent is right on top of the fan, horizontal seems better for that console.

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        • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

          October 10, 2013 at 11:47

          In principle, and this is greatly simplified, a hoot-like structure retains more heat than a slender tower – regardless of the number of vents. It all boils down to how heat is concentrated.

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      • Flops

        October 10, 2013 at 16:54

        How the hell is vertical better for heat reduction? On Xbox 360 it covers the biggest air vent on the system and was a major cause of rrod.

        Also vertical lets all heat migrate up through the motherboard vs horizontal where heat rises away from the board.

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        • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

          October 10, 2013 at 17:34

          Quite simply: What happens to heated air? It rises, right? Simple high school physics .

          Now, what happens when you have a larger surface area (like a horizontal slab i.e. xbone) with a pocket of hot air underneath it? It dissipates that heat much slower than a smaller surface like a vertically standing PS3 or xbox 360. It’s also one of the reason why IBM replaced their old line of flat computers with vertically standing towers back in the 90s, and for the very same reason, it’s recommended to have a PC tower standing upright.

          Heat dissipation!

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          • Flops

            October 10, 2013 at 17:46

            Even when its blocking the only real intake air vent on the 360?

          • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

            October 10, 2013 at 17:54

            Is this on the newer 360 slims? I still have an elite and the air vents are on the side and in the back. If they made it harder for the slims to stand upright than that’s some shitty engineering on Microsoft’s part.

            Regardless, a horizontal 360 or PS3 can double as a room heater – now just imagine your components cooking! Mmm… taste just like bacon!

          • xbox rulesz

            October 10, 2013 at 18:54

            they still run perfectly fine and better that ps3

          • Hillbilly Chris

            October 11, 2013 at 03:46

            The only thing that was wrong with the PS3 was after years of use, the processor overheated due to the dialect grease drying up, and then, only then did the Yellow Light of Death occur. I had 3 of the 360’s within a 7 month period get the red ring of death. The second time it happed, it was only 12 days after I got the replacement! That may not have occured to everyone, but most people that I talked to said they had to do it at least once.

          • slop_E_secnds

            October 11, 2013 at 02:13

            Have any of you looked at the new design of the xbone. It has been designed to stay on for ten straight years, with drastically improved ventilation and a giant fan. Plus it can reallocate power to reduce heat when it gets to hot, so this argument is moot.

          • Surging

            October 11, 2013 at 21:26

            Not really, M$ has been tweaking chips not even stress testing it and saying they made the xbox one more powerful now buy are crap… The Xbone could turn into a firehazard if they are not careful better yet a red ring scenario, OR the system fail safe as people assume there is one will prevent the system from starting after a day of hardcore gaming..

          • Hillbilly Chris

            October 11, 2013 at 03:38

            Take a look at Apples new iMac and how that is designed! Perfect example Jim and 100% correct.

        • Rick Coy

          October 14, 2013 at 03:44

          Standing the system vertically wasn’t the cause of the RRoD. Microsoft being too cheap to use metal RAM heatsinks and instead using foam caused the RRoD. I ended up owning 3 Xbox 360 and only one PS3. I won’t buy from Microsoft again because of an inferior product and nickle and diming you on every accessory.

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      • Surging

        October 11, 2013 at 21:09

        I heard a rumour that the Blu-Ray player on xbox one could end up eating the disc if placing it on its side or moving it on its side while spinning .

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    • deeboy17

      October 10, 2013 at 12:10

      Vertical stand sold separately.

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    • spider

      October 12, 2013 at 04:06

      Who gives a shit as long as it works! I mean even on the 360, it’s people had to place a fan on it when it was running! LOL

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  2. Tidycpc

    October 9, 2013 at 12:35

    Xbox, have enough games to keep me busy till launch.

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    • Lord Chaos

      October 9, 2013 at 13:24

      Ditto

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    • Surging

      October 11, 2013 at 21:27

      you can play all you want on your 900p hahaha, im going ps4 and playing on 1080p 🙂

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      • Camile Malono

        October 12, 2013 at 00:19

        Thats just ryse dipshit , forza and halo will run at 1080p

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        • RacerX

          October 14, 2013 at 16:47

          Halo is a dying franchise. You can thank 343i for listening to their gaming community for their success. If you don’t believe me just visit Halo waypoint. The reason I purchased an xbox was for Halo, now, I might just go back to my roots. Playstation, lot of RE2 memories and Tekken1-2.

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      • mike

        October 12, 2013 at 16:57

        Your sadly mistaken with Sony fanboy misinformation. No way all your games are running at 1080 retard. If bf4 is really at 720 or 900p on Xbox one or whatever it was then there’s no way in hell ps4 will be at 1080. And as for people talking about vertical vs horizontal, I find it annoying that nobody wants to point out how Sony is charging extra for that very stand for ps4, it can’t just do it on its own. If this was “M$” as pl like to call them then ppl would be ripping them for charging extra. Geez people need to take their mouths of sonys groin area my god

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        • Brian Murphy

          October 13, 2013 at 17:28

          Unprovable Mike, you may have a case once the lifecycle of these machines has come to an end, but right now, you cannot make a claim to know the facts on games that haven’t launched yet.

          Additionally, whose to say Ryse doesn’t get fine-tuned and tweaked by the time it releases, and it reflects last gens (PC-wise anyway), industry standard?

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  3. TiMsTeR1033

    October 9, 2013 at 12:35

    Have we not done this all before? I sense Deja vu all over!

    Reply

  4. Downloadable content John

    October 9, 2013 at 12:36

    PC

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    • Alien Emperor Trevor

      October 9, 2013 at 12:40

      It may look like I only gave you 1 upvote, but it’s actually 1 trillion. I was too lazy to type all the zeroes.

      Reply

      • NecroRince

        October 9, 2013 at 14:31

        Ahh, shuddup. Now, your sister?

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        • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

          October 9, 2013 at 14:35

          Who’s sister?

          Reply

          • niggerfaggot

            October 21, 2013 at 04:21

            whose*

    • Admiral Chief of Rivia

      October 9, 2013 at 12:43

      Heh

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    • Otto_ki

      October 9, 2013 at 12:43

      PC is still king but personally im going for the PS4, not on launch day or probably in the next 5 months but soon*

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      • Downloadable content John

        October 9, 2013 at 12:45

        The Xbone controller and the exclusives would get me.

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        • Otto_ki

          October 9, 2013 at 12:47

          I have never been a fan of the Xbone controller, feels very awkward with the analogs. And with my OCD everything needs too line up 🙂

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          • Downloadable content John

            October 9, 2013 at 12:47

            Haha. Fair enough.

          • Umar ZoMg Reiner

            October 9, 2013 at 12:47

            What’s a good controller for PC these days? besides the Xbox controller

          • Downloadable content John

            October 9, 2013 at 12:50

            I suppose a Razer Sabertooth doesn’t count. It’s very much an Xbox controller, but cooler. And more expensive.

            I had a logitech. Not bad, but the Xbox controller is really comfy.

          • Umar ZoMg Reiner

            October 9, 2013 at 12:52

            Googled it now, looks so sexy my god…directional buttons looks much better too. But I prefer Xbox controller too

          • Downloadable content John

            October 9, 2013 at 12:54

            My girlfriend has taken mine hostage since I gave her Skyrim so now I’m actually looking to get a new controller, because I know her well enough to know she’ll find something else to play once she’s done with Skyrim and I’ll never get my controller back.

          • Otto_ki

            October 9, 2013 at 12:55

            Skyrim is a BIG game mate, time for another controller because yours is gone for a while…or untill you get a working telkom line.

          • Downloadable content John

            October 9, 2013 at 12:58

            I think it’s safe to say that it’s gone. I don’t think getting my internet up will change anything.

          • Kyou

            October 9, 2013 at 16:39

            SKYRIM SUCKS!!

          • GrimmPaladin

            October 13, 2013 at 01:59

            Really? Really? LOL. GTA retard, I presume.

          • Umar ZoMg Reiner

            October 9, 2013 at 12:56

            Don’t worry you will get it back in 200 hours or so 😛

          • Otto_ki

            October 9, 2013 at 12:51

            A keyboard is a very good choice 🙂

            But in all seriousness, i use a logitech.

          • Umar ZoMg Reiner

            October 9, 2013 at 12:52

            lol meh, these days, developers do such sh*tty jobs with ports that you have to play with a controller

          • Otto_ki

            October 9, 2013 at 12:53

            Mostly I use the controller for Contra Emulator and maby some good old Final Fantasy 7 on steam.

          • Umar ZoMg Reiner

            October 9, 2013 at 12:54

            LOL @ Contra. yeah last game on PC I played with a controller was DmC, though I still play Dark Souls quite a lot though, PC version is the ultimate version

          • UltimateNinjaPandaDudeGuy

            October 9, 2013 at 13:56

            I use the PS3 controller with software to emulate Xbox keys. Works pretty damn well.

            Edit: Remembered the software is called MotionJoy

          • Umar ZoMg Reiner

            October 9, 2013 at 13:58

            MotionJoy?

          • Surging

            October 11, 2013 at 21:29

            I use motionjoy to plug in my Dualshock 3 to play my SNES ROMS, 🙂 and and and DS4 wont need drivers for PC all you do it plug it in WOOP WOOP

          • RoadShow

            October 10, 2013 at 20:08

            Dual Shock 4 will work native out the box on PC.

          • Surging

            October 11, 2013 at 21:29

            yep

  5. Tortoise

    October 9, 2013 at 12:38

    Leaning to PS4. Price, PR fails & retarded force-feeding of the kinect has soured the xbox.

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  6. Otto_ki

    October 9, 2013 at 12:38

    LOL at first Xbone Con: “kinect included” XD

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    • Umar ZoMg Reiner

      October 9, 2013 at 12:47

      Didn’t pick that one up ! LOL nice

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  7. Tortoise

    October 9, 2013 at 12:41

    And in what way is the “kinect included” also a pro? You’re still paying for it so no improvement on it just being separate and the xbox being cheaper :/

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    • Gavin Mannion

      October 9, 2013 at 13:06

      It being included with all consoles means that the developers will utilise it properly offering a different gaming experience on the Xbox One

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      • Skyblue

        October 9, 2013 at 13:11

        I still want to try that verbal interface to see if it’s gimicky or actually worth all the crap MS have taken this year.

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        • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

          October 9, 2013 at 14:11

          I’ll be very surprised if it isn’t gimicky. I just don’t see Kinect 2 being that much of an improvement on Kinect 1.

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      • Brian Murphy

        October 13, 2013 at 16:43

        That’s assumption, Gavin. As with Kinect on the 360 (or move for the PS3) any developer adoption for multi-platform titles will be absolutely minimal at best. Gimmicky and clunky at worst. Kinect fans will have to look to purchased exclusives, and Microsoft’s in-house studios for compelling content. And going by history, they aren’t in store for much of anything special. That ‘killer app’ for Kinect, has yet to show itself, and there’s no reason to suggest we’ll be seeing it anytime soon.

        Asking the same question repeatedly, and expecting a different answer after the 30th time, is a definition of insanity.

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  8. Zubayr Bhyat

    October 9, 2013 at 12:41

    Used a PS4 controller. Prefer that over the XBone one.

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    • Hillbilly Chris

      October 11, 2013 at 03:54

      I used both at Gamescom, and I prefer the PS4 controller. The touchpad that I used in The Playroom was very responsive and very welcome not to mention the DS4 is very comfortable.

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  9. Umar ZoMg Reiner

    October 9, 2013 at 12:42

    Nothing…Seriously…launch line-up for both consoles are pretty meh…quite meh. next year some time I will be switching, and the console of choice will still be PS 4. There are still too many games coming this gen that far outweighs the need to go next gen, head tilting BF4 is not enough you hear…NOT ENOUGH!

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  10. UltimateNinjaPandaDudeGuy

    October 9, 2013 at 12:43

    PC > Steam Machine > PS4 > WiiU > My phone > My primary school calculator > Xbone

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    • Alien Emperor Trevor

      October 9, 2013 at 12:44

      Where does an abacus fit it? Between the calculator & the bone?

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      • Downloadable content John

        October 9, 2013 at 12:45

        Depends what phone he has

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      • UltimateNinjaPandaDudeGuy

        October 9, 2013 at 12:51

        A good point has been made…

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      • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

        October 9, 2013 at 14:43

        What about those old tamagochi games? Surely those are between a primary school calculator and an Abacus?

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  11. VinTaco

    October 9, 2013 at 12:50

    I am not planning on getting either in the next 6 – 12 months, but I am more interested in Sony due to my love of the PS3.

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  12. DarthofZA

    October 9, 2013 at 12:51

    Was leaning towards the PS4 before rAge. After hands on time with the PS4 controller, I wanted it less. Then I had hands on time with the xBone controller, and I cannot use words to describe how comfortable it is and how awesome that Haptic Triggers feel. The games on the xBone also look better. I left rAge having decided to get the xBone. I was going to wait a year anyways, so releasing latter isn’t really a con for me.

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  13. Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

    October 9, 2013 at 12:51

    If I had to choose I’d go for the PS4.

    But, my biggest question is… is it Friday already? This smells of Flame Debate

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  14. Ir0nseraph

    October 9, 2013 at 12:52

    PS4 since I can play Titanfall on PC and the 360.

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  15. oVg

    October 9, 2013 at 12:57

    NONE. The money is going to the insane increased cost of living. Everything goes up 10% automatically from Insurance, gym fees and rent yet the South African wages sit at 4%.

    Everybody at work who plays videogames are not interested in the expensive social media hubs at all.

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    • Umar ZoMg Reiner

      October 9, 2013 at 12:58

      Dem petrol prices. Glad My wife and I got a kia picanto, full tank lasts us two weeks. Life is getting expensive in the land of Zuma

      Reply

      • TiMsTeR1033

        October 9, 2013 at 12:59

        Awesome little cars!

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      • oVg

        October 9, 2013 at 12:59

        Wait until Syria is finally invaded. The petrol will sky rocket.

        Reply

        • TiMsTeR1033

          October 9, 2013 at 12:59

          Wish we could all have solar powered cars!

          Reply

          • oVg

            October 9, 2013 at 13:00

            Not in China, it will take 4 years for their fog to clear.

          • Downloadable content John

            October 9, 2013 at 13:01

            Not in Cape Town.

        • Umar ZoMg Reiner

          October 9, 2013 at 13:01

          Gonna happen soon with things are going over there, bloody hell this world is going to sh*t…..And I’m just here fapping..I mean commenting

          Reply

          • TiMsTeR1033

            October 9, 2013 at 13:05

            World is coming to an end… I think about 30 years tops and we all f*cked!

          • Umar ZoMg Reiner

            October 9, 2013 at 13:06

            I hope it ends with zombies

          • Downloadable content John

            October 9, 2013 at 13:07

            Please let it be the sluggish ones.

          • Umar ZoMg Reiner

            October 9, 2013 at 13:08

            LOL not those new age zombies that can run and has some intelligence….Freaking Resident Evil 6

          • TiMsTeR1033

            October 9, 2013 at 13:08

            No granny Zombies!

          • Weanerdog

            October 9, 2013 at 14:02

            I am working on a line of Usain Bolt Zombies just for the Lulz.

          • Circuitflow

            October 9, 2013 at 13:35

            that is Soo my worst fear.. …I’ll “off” myself before i get eaten by one of those. EEEEEEEEEkky things!

          • Umar ZoMg Reiner

            October 9, 2013 at 13:37

            Hahaha, Suicide is not an option, we will fight like soldiers,these Zombie games are preparing us for that day!

          • Circuitflow

            October 9, 2013 at 13:47

            u know i had that thought the other day, what if all these zombies games were created just to “train us”…. NAH pffftttt what am i thinking! RIGTH!!! I mean right ( worried expression) then again………..

          • Umar ZoMg Reiner

            October 9, 2013 at 13:58

            HAHAHA, don’t worry man, nothing to worry about…I think…maybe…well maybe just attach some blades to your broom…JUST IN CASE

          • Circuitflow

            October 9, 2013 at 14:05

            right my grocery shoppin list just took a turn past the hardware store!!!

            Chainsaw “check”
            Duck tape x 12 “Check”
            Maschete ” Check”
            lawnmower blades ” Check”
            Broom stick x 2 ” Check”

            damn how i wish wecould buy GUNS at Builders like in the USA

          • oVg

            October 9, 2013 at 13:09

            Kifflom Kifflom

          • NecroRince

            October 9, 2013 at 14:02

            0-O

      • Downloadable content John

        October 9, 2013 at 12:59

        I do that with my ‘big’ car, but then again, I drive ten minutes to work.
        Those are cool cars though.

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        • Umar ZoMg Reiner

          October 9, 2013 at 13:01

          Lol I take a bus, a nice 1 and half drive to and from lol ahh, how I envy you!

          Reply

          • Downloadable content John

            October 9, 2013 at 13:02

            Jis man. I feel for you. That’s crap

          • Umar ZoMg Reiner

            October 9, 2013 at 13:03

            Indeedio on the plus side, My Vita get’s some good game time! and usually get two eps of some anime in. So bus time is fun time

          • TiMsTeR1033

            October 9, 2013 at 13:11

            At least buses work in Ct, in college was late all the time!

          • Lardus-Resident Perve

            October 9, 2013 at 13:46

            I used to study on the bus, then I took a degree to the knee

          • Umar ZoMg Reiner

            October 9, 2013 at 13:47

            Hahaha classic! Me too, funny enough the bus is a good place to study

          • oVg

            October 9, 2013 at 13:05

            Its like a flu jab

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            October 9, 2013 at 13:09

            My sister catches the train. A couple of times a month I get a call. “The train’s stuck at Bellville Station – come fetch meeeeeee!”

          • Umar ZoMg Reiner

            October 9, 2013 at 13:11

            Lol Metro, only thing you know for sure about them is the train will at some point get delayed, for probably an hour or more

          • NecroRince

            October 9, 2013 at 14:03

            What does she look like… Just out of ‘curiosity’…

          • Downloadable content John

            October 9, 2013 at 14:05

            Emperor, you do know that you will have to beat Rince to the Station every time she calls you if you tell him this

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            October 9, 2013 at 14:07

            As far as YOU LOT are concerned, she’s a one-legged obese hunchback that makes the elephant man look like a male model.

          • NecroRince

            October 9, 2013 at 14:30

            What do you mean by that?! 0-O

      • Lardus-Resident Perve

        October 9, 2013 at 13:03

        Sheesh – I get 7km per litre if I drive ‘respectably’, while driving as slow as a granny gets me 7.5!!!!

        Reply

        • Umar ZoMg Reiner

          October 9, 2013 at 13:05

          Lol dude, get you this lil bugger, times are tough you will actually save a lot of money. and it’s a nippy car, though not enough space to do “Other Things”

          Reply

          • Lardus-Resident Perve

            October 9, 2013 at 13:12

            My car also doesn’t have a lot of space. But I do not want to make debt for another couple of years just for that. Next year my RX8 is fully paid and I intend to not make debt again 🙂

          • Umar ZoMg Reiner

            October 9, 2013 at 13:13

            Indeed bro, you never realize until you start paying but a car payment really hits you hard in the stomach!

          • TiMsTeR1033

            October 9, 2013 at 13:15

            Like a mother f*cker!

          • Downloadable content John

            October 9, 2013 at 13:16

            Your sensoring skills are commendable. I have no idea what that last word is.

          • TiMsTeR1033

            October 9, 2013 at 13:16

            FICKER!

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            October 9, 2013 at 13:18

            Sies, there may be German people reading.

          • TiMsTeR1033

            October 9, 2013 at 13:20

            fick dich du Bastard

          • Umar ZoMg Reiner

            October 9, 2013 at 13:17

            I do it too lol we try at least to keep it friendly though it’s obvious what we are spelling

          • Downloadable content John

            October 9, 2013 at 13:15

            Man, I’ve been considering getting one for a while, but I’m already complaining about my current car being to long in the garage, that thing is just as long. Sure can do with the extra 40kw on it though.

          • TiMsTeR1033

            October 9, 2013 at 13:15

            What long car is this?

          • Downloadable content John

            October 9, 2013 at 13:16

            A batmobile.

          • TiMsTeR1033

            October 9, 2013 at 13:16

            how much to fill it?

          • Downloadable content John

            October 9, 2013 at 13:17

            I don’t know. Alfred fills it up.

          • TiMsTeR1033

            October 9, 2013 at 13:18

            Typical of you… Make poor Alfred do all the work! HE IS 93 this year! 90 FICKEN 3!

          • Downloadable content John

            October 9, 2013 at 13:20

            Haha. But I only drive it at night. So he doesn’t have to fill it up often.

          • TiMsTeR1033

            October 9, 2013 at 13:21

            Have you seen yourself drive?? Alfred cleaning up your love stains in the back!

          • Downloadable content John

            October 9, 2013 at 13:23

            But I’m Batman.
            It’s what I do.

          • TiMsTeR1033

            October 9, 2013 at 13:27

            Alfred told me some stains, cant be removed.

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            October 9, 2013 at 13:15

            A friend has the Hyundai i10, which is pretty much the same car. I was surprised how quick it was when I drove it the other day, suffered a bit on the N1 though. Nice little car.

          • Umar ZoMg Reiner

            October 9, 2013 at 13:17

            Yea, it’s not the most powerful car, I mean went on Route 62 with this car, held pretty well. These days, big cars are just too expensive to keep. Petrol is really insane now

          • Admiral Chief of Rivia

            October 9, 2013 at 13:19

            DIESEL POWAAAAA

          • Umar ZoMg Reiner

            October 9, 2013 at 13:20

            Yeah everyone is telling me to switch to diesel guess it’s a better option these days

          • Admiral Chief of Rivia

            October 9, 2013 at 13:20

            That or a bike

          • Umar ZoMg Reiner

            October 9, 2013 at 13:22

            I’m too sissy for that……. 🙁

          • Downloadable content John

            October 9, 2013 at 13:23

            I do about 12km per litre, which I don’t think is too bad.

          • Admiral Chief of Rivia

            October 9, 2013 at 13:25

            20 for me! (when driving civilized)

          • Downloadable content John

            October 9, 2013 at 13:26

            Mother!
            Well, I have the petroleum vehicle. (an old man car). Can’t wait to get rid of it next year and buy something a bit less practical.

          • Downloadable content John

            October 9, 2013 at 13:20

            No

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            October 9, 2013 at 13:19

            That’s the truth.

        • Admiral Chief of Rivia

          October 9, 2013 at 13:18

          What car is it?

          Reply

          • Lardus-Resident Perve

            October 9, 2013 at 13:23

            Mazda RX8 Hi-power 6 speed. Can do 200 in 4th gear, but I am too responsible to do that – I stop at 196 😛

          • TiMsTeR1033

            October 9, 2013 at 13:23

            In an 80 zone mind you people….lol

          • Lardus-Resident Perve

            October 9, 2013 at 13:45

            Lol never! I have this nice little piece of the highway. I drive from one off-ramp to the next, then back again. If the coast is clear and the road is quiet, I moer it up one direction, moer it back and then I go home like a civilised person.

          • Downloadable content John

            October 9, 2013 at 13:48

            I’ve done that same thing. Happy to meet a fellow petrol-head and Mazda fan.

          • TiMsTeR1033

            October 9, 2013 at 13:48

            My bro once was doing 230 in 80 zone, in his Mazda 3 mps. Flipping insane!! lucky didn’t get caught!

          • Downloadable content John

            October 9, 2013 at 13:25

            *bows*
            I got a bitch of a speed fine one day for thinking no one was watching. I challenge you all to guess the fine.

          • Admiral Chief of Rivia

            October 9, 2013 at 13:25

            FIVE DOLLAHS

          • Anon A Mouse

            October 9, 2013 at 13:26

            Anything over 20km/h over the limit is court appearance, so I’m guessing about R2k

          • Downloadable content John

            October 9, 2013 at 13:29

            I still don’t know why they didn’t take me to court. But it was R1800.
            It was in the middle of nowhere and I was alone.
            120 in a 60.

          • TiMsTeR1033

            October 9, 2013 at 13:30

            “Alone” apparently not hey!

          • Lardus-Resident Perve

            October 9, 2013 at 13:43

            Ouch. More than 40kph over and they can sommer arrest you right there!

          • Downloadable content John

            October 9, 2013 at 13:46

            I know. I didn’t see them, so I’m guessing it was a semi-permanent camera. I was so shocked by it (and afraid of being arrested) that I paid that thing as quickly as I could.

          • TiMsTeR1033

            October 9, 2013 at 13:28

            R800?

        • Circuitflow

          October 9, 2013 at 13:38

          lol i get 12.1 in my ST… then again i am one for the few that has a company petrol card + travel allowance.. all this just to drive from my house to work and back 14 km total!

          Reply

          • Downloadable content John

            October 9, 2013 at 13:39

            You suck

      • Admiral Chief of Rivia

        October 9, 2013 at 13:18

        Getting my car back this afternoon, let the record state, that Ford Figo’s are shit cars, no wonder its my hire car. Effing yellow as well.

        BUT NO LONGER MUAHAHAHAHAHA.

        Diesel power again this afternoon!

        Reply

        • Umar ZoMg Reiner

          October 9, 2013 at 13:19

          How’s diesel holding up?Price wise

          Reply

          • Admiral Chief of Rivia

            October 9, 2013 at 13:19

            Stable at least, but I get 1000km on 45liters

          • Anon A Mouse

            October 9, 2013 at 13:19

            Becoming more expensive than petrol.

          • Umar ZoMg Reiner

            October 9, 2013 at 13:20

            Lol damn, I keep hearing that diesel is the way to go, My life is a lie

        • Downloadable content John

          October 9, 2013 at 13:19

          Last hire car I had was a Hyundai Getz with a shoddy gearbox. Made me work like a bitch driving around town.

          Reply

          • Brady miaau

            October 9, 2013 at 14:31

            We got a VW Vivo or something on holiday in June. Man, is a boring car. It does everything well, is comfortable, but just left me feeling, meh. Whataver.

            The Getz I got last time was a lot more fun BUT neither of the two hire cars I used this year (each for a week or more) were fun because they were manual. Manual is for Sunday afternoon, in a sports car.

      • Anon A Mouse

        October 9, 2013 at 13:19

        Always nice when I fill up my car and have to pay over almost R1500.00 drives me to tears every time.

        Reply

        • Admiral Chief of Rivia

          October 9, 2013 at 13:20

          O_O

          What car doth thee driveth?

          Reply

          • Downloadable content John

            October 9, 2013 at 13:21

            I’m guessing tank.

          • TiMsTeR1033

            October 9, 2013 at 13:23

            A hummer maybe!

          • Anon A Mouse

            October 9, 2013 at 13:25

            A Navara 4litre petrol. 80liter tank

          • Admiral Chief of Rivia

            October 9, 2013 at 13:26

            Eina. You happy with it, mechanically wise I hear its sound, but the interior is just so, meh

          • Anon A Mouse

            October 9, 2013 at 13:29

            I’m a Nissan fan, so very happy. Besides I actually do go off-road with it so it is practical as well. It is actually quite comfortable on the long drives as well.

          • Admiral Chief of Rivia

            October 9, 2013 at 13:31

            Yeah, heard they do well offroad

          • Downloadable content John

            October 9, 2013 at 13:28

            Coolest bakkie on the road, after the new Ranger (in looks at least)

          • Admiral Chief of Rivia

            October 9, 2013 at 13:28

            New Ranger looks awesome, but still Ford, so no

          • Downloadable content John

            October 9, 2013 at 13:30

            Can I venture a guess what you drive?
            It’s a car, not a bakkie or SUV right?

          • TiMsTeR1033

            October 9, 2013 at 13:31

            Izuzu double cab?

          • Admiral Chief of Rivia

            October 9, 2013 at 13:32

            Polo TDI, for teh commutezors

          • Downloadable content John

            October 9, 2013 at 13:32

            Ah, I would’ve guessed wrong. Forgot about VW,

          • Admiral Chief of Rivia

            October 9, 2013 at 13:33

            Yeah, drove Golf GTI before, but moved to diesel

          • Downloadable content John

            October 9, 2013 at 13:33

            Drove a GTi of one of my friends. Didn’t like VW until I drove that thing.

          • Admiral Chief of Rivia

            October 9, 2013 at 13:35

            Same thing, was an Opel fan before the GTI, now VW FO LIFE YO!

          • TiMsTeR1033

            October 9, 2013 at 13:33

            So really, what is your ride? a Jag?

          • Downloadable content John

            October 9, 2013 at 13:34

            Ah, Tim, you flatter me.

          • TiMsTeR1033

            October 9, 2013 at 13:36

            a bus?

          • Downloadable content John

            October 9, 2013 at 13:37

            C200K

          • TiMsTeR1033

            October 9, 2013 at 13:41

            I had a feeling was a Merc man! nice ride man!

          • Downloadable content John

            October 9, 2013 at 13:44

            Thanks. It’s a bit too big for me. Got it at a great price though.

          • TiMsTeR1033

            October 9, 2013 at 13:45

            Must be a thirsty beast though!

          • Downloadable content John

            October 9, 2013 at 13:47

            Not so much actually. But the services are killing me. Merc parts are crazy expensive. So I’m selling next year just before I get to 100 000 km on the clock.

          • TiMsTeR1033

            October 9, 2013 at 13:49

            Its because Mercs are a old rich man’s car, they can be like “oh I need a new part… which card would you like?”

          • Downloadable content John

            October 9, 2013 at 13:53

            And the parts are made from wood (of your choice), ebony or dragon bones.

          • TiMsTeR1033

            October 9, 2013 at 13:55

            hahaha

          • Brady miaau

            October 9, 2013 at 14:43

            I think the truly rich old man has one card, using Investec Wealth as bank

          • TiMsTeR1033

            October 9, 2013 at 14:54

            True!

          • Brady miaau

            October 9, 2013 at 14:23

            I actually did research for average prices for service, major service, Cam belt and common fixes on cars. Had a spreadsheet: Audi, Merc, BMW and Volvo.

            Volvo was last by a mile and Merc came out tops. Bought one, I find the parts quite cheap. Brake pads the twice the size of the ones in my wifes car, for R50 more. Lasts 3 times as long too. Stuff like that. Most expensive service was R8K, where a part of R4k was replaced. I love!

            Reliable is not the correct word, but it is all I have.

          • Downloadable content John

            October 9, 2013 at 14:35

            The brakes do last forever, I must say.

          • Brady miaau

            October 9, 2013 at 14:42

            Yeah, but if your gearbox breaks, um, oops. I actually have insurance on parts like that, not very expensive, but a new gearbox is R80 000, for example. But that is the same in most cars.

            Land Rover is also waaaaay more expensive, if I listen to the landy drivers here.

          • Downloadable content John

            October 9, 2013 at 14:43

            Yes, my family is Land Rover crazy (I am not). And those are some expensive parts.

          • Brady miaau

            October 9, 2013 at 14:21

            They are big. But keep it. It will last for years and still be super comfortable.

        • Umar ZoMg Reiner

          October 9, 2013 at 13:21

          DAMN! what car? I pay like R370

          Reply

          • Admiral Chief of Rivia

            October 9, 2013 at 13:25

            O_O geez, lucky bugger you

          • TiMsTeR1033

            October 9, 2013 at 13:29

            To fill?

          • Umar ZoMg Reiner

            October 9, 2013 at 13:30

            Yup, love our lil picanto

          • TiMsTeR1033

            October 9, 2013 at 13:30

            My Tazz cost me R450

          • Umar ZoMg Reiner

            October 9, 2013 at 13:31

            Nice not bad either 🙂 More money to spend on games !

          • TiMsTeR1033

            October 9, 2013 at 13:32

            Or booze lol

    • Alien Emperor Trevor

      October 9, 2013 at 13:01

      Thanks for reminding me :/ Below inflationary increases ho!

      Reply

      • oVg

        October 9, 2013 at 13:04

        Besides, I will be to tempted to spend my R6999 PS4 money on 11 XBOX games.

        Reply

        • Alien Emperor Trevor

          October 9, 2013 at 13:08

          Why not? No need to be an early adopter – let the kids beta test the new consoles for you.

          Reply

    • Brady miaau

      October 9, 2013 at 14:28

      Whats an increase?

      Is it like the end of year bonus beast, you think you spot it, but when you look, it is no longer there.

      Reply

      • oVg

        October 9, 2013 at 14:31

        Yip, that is normally after the yearly meeting in October about how poor the staff financial ratio is. So we are all happy with the GDP increase of 0.01%.

        Virgin slap a 10% increase on the yearly membership due to hard economic turmoil. So I cancelled my membership due to hard economic turmoil. Go figure 😉

        Reply

        • NecroRince

          October 9, 2013 at 14:33

          Well, let’s be honest, the only hard work you put into the gym was that hard economic turmoil! BOOM!

          Reply

          • oVg

            October 9, 2013 at 14:34

            At least I can do the flipping YOGA mini game in GTAV after 155 beers.

            too soon? bwahahahaha

          • NecroRince

            October 9, 2013 at 14:49

            Hey, I got 100% the other day!

        • Brady miaau

          October 9, 2013 at 14:40

          Indeed. In years past, I have gone like 3 years, same salary, then get 18% bump. Makes planning less fun than all that!

          no bonus, ever. My father in law gets a 13th AND a performance review i.e. a 14th some years. Man, I want that, so badly. That would seriously, for example, dent the home loan or something.

          Reply

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            October 9, 2013 at 14:45

            A 13th cheque is part of my original employment contract. The company that bought us out tried to cancel them one year. You can’ttttttt dooooooo thattttttt tee hee.

          • Brady miaau

            October 9, 2013 at 14:51

            I HATE THAT. Once it is in, is in.

            Also a bit, you know, envy, green, that sort of feeling. Perhaps mild loathing. Will pass soon

            🙂

      • oVg

        October 9, 2013 at 14:33

        Strike season lol, I have never heard of a 365 day season before. Only in Africa.

        Reply

  16. Brady miaau

    October 9, 2013 at 13:01

    In a years time, when the hype around games not yet released on the new platforms has died down, I will get the one that most closely matches the following:
    1. Reviewed Games I am interested scoring generally well
    2. Games I am interested in being good, not just reviewed with high score, then hype dies down (Saints Row IV)
    3. The one with the new Mass effect / Dragon Age type game
    4. Is it worth the money vs current Xbox 360 for the amount of games to play? If not, wait another six months or a year.

    Reply

    • Alien Emperor Trevor

      October 9, 2013 at 13:03

      Way to ruin the debate with a sensible point of view. YOU HATE FUN! 😉

      Reply

      • Umar ZoMg Reiner

        October 9, 2013 at 13:04

        I’m getting PC, PC was Next Gen before Next Gen…#consoleNoobs

        Reply

      • Brady miaau

        October 9, 2013 at 13:05

        I spend a lot of my life doing analysis. Sorry, force of habit.

        This is the 2nd time in two weeks you have accused me of that!

        Reply

        • Alien Emperor Trevor

          October 9, 2013 at 13:06

          lol I did? I don’t keep track of the nonsense I say. Every day is an adventure 😀

          Reply

          • Brady miaau

            October 9, 2013 at 14:26

            🙂

    • Tarisma

      October 9, 2013 at 14:15

      Oh how dare you use logic. But I’m pretty much the same, besides for what games I am interested in.

      Reply

  17. Lardus-Resident Perve

    October 9, 2013 at 13:02

    I am waiting for games I really REALLY want to play before I decide. A colleague will get XBone, and another the PS4, so I will have the opportunity to play some more. But either way, waiting for that ONE game to get me excited.

    Reply

  18. Kerrits

    October 9, 2013 at 13:03

    Why is Xbox Live a pro?

    Reply

    • Gavin Mannion

      October 9, 2013 at 13:04

      Because it’s better than PSN.. (Not PSN+)

      Reply

      • Kerrits

        October 9, 2013 at 13:12

        I’m not saying that it isn’t, but which part of it that’s better will not be addressed by the PS4?
        PS4 will have cross game chat?
        What am I missing?

        Reply

        • Spathi

          October 9, 2013 at 13:17

          Gavin is speaking about the interface I believe more so than the service.

          Off topic: Remote play with Vita is a huge pro, although you actually need to buy the Vita first..

          Reply

        • Gavin Mannion

          October 9, 2013 at 14:28

          Honestly right now it’s just the pedigree of the Xbox Live system makes it a front runner

          Reply

      • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

        October 9, 2013 at 14:09

        Wouldn’t it be better and fairer to compare two “paid” or “unpaid” services? In that sense, PSN gets compared to XBOX Live silver and PSN + to XBOX LIVE GOLD! In both cases, PSN and PSN+ comes out tops.

        That just leaves kinect… lol! there’s no way that’s a plus!

        Reply

        • Spathi

          October 9, 2013 at 14:13

          PS4 + Vita + PSV TV = Unbeatable!

          Reply

        • Gavin Mannion

          October 9, 2013 at 14:27

          Xbox Live has always been the superior service, even the silver one compared to PSN standard

          Reply

          • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

            October 9, 2013 at 14:33

            You can’t even surf the web with the silver one. What can you do with a silver Xbox live account? Can’t send tweets? Can’t even watch hulu…

            Essentially, it exists purely to torture you, to remind you that you’re a poor ass gamer, and too uncool for multiplayer.

            Talk about stratifying gamerdom into the haves (golden master race) and the have-nots (dirty, unwashed silver peasants). And this is so entrenched in the American psyche, that currently they’ve brought their country to the knees, by shutting it down, purely because one Kenyan Hawaiian Irish visionary called Obama wanted to give them free health care!

            IT MAKES NO SENSE! XBOX LIVE MAKES NO SENSE!

          • Brian Murphy

            October 13, 2013 at 17:50

            Agree Jim, the fact that Microsoft makes you pay additionally for services that ALREADY cost you (or, in Twitter’s case, are free), is absolutely abhorrent. The fact that Microsoft requires you to pay for the privilege to access a 3rd parties dedicated servers (CoD), is abhorrent.

            By the way, there’s no need to add social commentary on the US Political system, I could explain it to you, but it’s not really a forum for politics. Though, I know that taking shots at America earns brownie points here at LG.

  19. MacDoodle

    October 9, 2013 at 13:03

    Don’t trust MS so they will never get my money

    Reply

  20. Melasco

    October 9, 2013 at 13:03

    PS4 all the way. All I need on launch is BF4 🙂

    Reply

    • nicksimp101

      October 9, 2013 at 13:33

      My sentiments exactly!

      Reply

    • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

      October 9, 2013 at 13:51

      Killzone for me! OOOOooohhh YEaaaahhh!!

      Reply

      • Melasco

        October 9, 2013 at 13:59

        Make no mistake, I’m looking forward to this as well! 🙂

        Reply

        • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

          October 9, 2013 at 14:39

          Why did you get a downvote? That’s very weird.

          Reply

          • Downloadable content John

            October 9, 2013 at 14:41

            Strange things

          • Melasco

            October 9, 2013 at 14:43

            parallax fout?

          • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

            October 9, 2013 at 14:44

            lol, a wild downvote troll has been spotted

  21. Skyblue

    October 9, 2013 at 13:09

    Will most likely eventually owning both. Always been a retard for decent exclusives.

    Reply

  22. Seraphim

    October 9, 2013 at 13:10

    PS4 Slim.
    The only Xbone exclusive I’m interested in is Titanfall and that’s coming to pc.

    Reply

    • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

      October 9, 2013 at 13:51

      Dead rising 3 for me, I don’t really care about Call of Duty with Mechs.

      Reply

      • Exalted Overlord Geoffrey Tim

        October 9, 2013 at 14:06

        Titanfall is so much more than that. 😛

        Reply

        • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

          October 9, 2013 at 14:39

          I guess I’m off the Titanfall review list… 🙁

          Reply

      • Downloadable content John

        October 9, 2013 at 14:07

        You do remember what Mechs are right?

        Reply

      • Seraphim

        October 9, 2013 at 14:14

        It’s Call of Duty with Mechs and parkour and it’s for the parkour elements that I’m looking forward to getting it.

        Reply

      • Tarisma

        October 9, 2013 at 14:18

        I played dead rising 2. And although I enjoyed it meh its the kinda game someone will bring up at a braai in 4 years and I’ll tilt my head and think, did I play that, I’m sure I did?

        Reply

  23. jGLZA

    October 9, 2013 at 13:12

    DEM triggers on that Xbone controller. Super sweet!

    Reply

  24. Anon A Mouse

    October 9, 2013 at 13:12

    Still not hyped about anyone of them. I don’t trust these big corps anymore. They’ll promise you the sun, moon and stars to get you to buy their console and then a month or two afterwards change all the things that will make their wallets bulge but take away the fun in gaming.
    I will therefore have a wait and see attitude towards the new consoles, besides it’s not as if they are now suddenly going to stop making games for the current gens anyway.

    Reply

  25. Downloadable content John

    October 9, 2013 at 13:13

    I’ve always liked that the Xbox controllers have concave analog knobs. I see PS has now also come to the party.

    Reply

  26. Spathi

    October 9, 2013 at 13:15

    PS4 due to Sony’s first party studios which will come with a strong lineup, the console being cheaper and features of the XB1 I’m totally not interested in.

    Reply

  27. nick

    October 9, 2013 at 13:38

    Sony PS4 500GB Console with Killzone Shadow Fall Mega Bundle for me 😀

    Reply

    • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

      October 9, 2013 at 13:52

      I wish we had that bundle on launch! I’d preorder it at the drop of a hat.. but alas….

      Reply

  28. Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

    October 9, 2013 at 13:40

    I’d rather not be Xboned! I’m getting a PS4!

    Reply

    • MacDoodle

      October 9, 2013 at 15:03

      Fully, I mean who would buy a car from someone who behaved like MS, or trust their investments to a company that took their (MS) approach to what the customer wants?

      Reply

      • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

        October 9, 2013 at 15:06

        Absa seems to get away with it…. 😛 (but yeah, I know what you mean. Very shady)

        Reply

  29. Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

    October 9, 2013 at 13:41

    Wait Kinect is a pro and a con? Oh you be trolling Gav!

    Reply

  30. Jonah Cash

    October 9, 2013 at 13:43

    PS4 with watch dogs!! This next gen won’t be about the exclusive so much as there will be less of them in my opinion…. The exclusive games have been minimal the last 3 years and I see it going down even more, maybe timed exclusives but that doesn’t bother me at all!! Or I am just blowing smoke up your ass….

    Reply

  31. Pieter Kruger

    October 9, 2013 at 13:48

    Xbox One, no contest!

    Reply

    • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

      October 9, 2013 at 13:49

      2017 will be a good year for Pieter Kruger!

      Reply

      • Pieter Kruger

        October 9, 2013 at 14:31

        Yeah, I’ll still be playing good AAA titles while you’ll be replaying Knack for the 100th time! Wha ha ha ha!

        Reply

        • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

          October 9, 2013 at 14:38

          lol, if the last 4 years of xbox 360 is anything to go by, it’s going to be a lean next gen for the xbots – another Halo, another Forza, another Gears…. rinse and repeat… COD..TV. TV… Fable…. Laundry/recycle gaming!

          Reply

          • Spathi

            October 9, 2013 at 15:28

            But at least Pieter will be super fit with all those fitness games on the Kinect!

          • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

            October 10, 2013 at 18:10

            That’s a damn depressing infographic lol! Look at all that Kinect crap!

          • Hammersteyn

            October 14, 2013 at 07:51

            Bwahahahahaha

  32. Rags

    October 9, 2013 at 13:53

    Star Citizen!

    Reply

  33. Brenz

    October 9, 2013 at 13:57

    PS4 with not a moments hesitation.
    It might have a slow start with regards to launch titles yes, but just wait until it gains some momentum, there will be many a xbone owner with a tear of regret in their eye.

    Reply

    • Pieter Kruger

      October 10, 2013 at 08:58

      My personal view….I’m not willing to wait 2 years plus for that to happen. Sony’s selling the PS4 at a loss once again and are now focusing 80% on the Vita! They’ve spent an insane amount on advertising and will have to wait for current 1st party titles to turn profitable before they’ll be able to expand more on that! They’re also much more focused on PS3 exclusives an Indies as they’re cheaper to produce! Sony simply does not have the budget MS have for next gen 1st party development and that is why I’ll stick to the Xbone! Maybe I’m proven wrong but the launch titles alone show MS have a huge advantage!

      Reply

      • Spathi

        October 10, 2013 at 09:04

        What a load of shit…

        Reply

        • Pieter Kruger

          October 10, 2013 at 09:16

          Once again my personal opinion but the only PS4 title that’s remotely promising is The Order, the rest just lacks in every way possible! I’m sticking with Xbone cause I love games, simple as that!

          Reply

          • Spathi

            October 10, 2013 at 09:27

            “There’s a lot coming. I’m sure you heard from [SCE Worldwide Studios boss] Shu [Yoshida] that he has—just his studios—he has 30 games in development. 20 of them are going to ship within the first year of the console’s life, and of those, 12 are new IP.”

            http://youtu.be/4y1GiM8Gd_k

          • Brenz

            October 10, 2013 at 11:41

            Just goes to show, might be a slow launch but when it kicks off its going to take the lead by far.

      • Brenz

        October 10, 2013 at 09:17

        I cant go so far as to believe that Sony will wait up to 2 years to start their focus on next-gen. Yes they are focusing on the vita, but its been starved for that focus since release, they cant be planning the same mistake again.
        Also i think we are going to see some very cool ps4 – vita pairing in the near future, which is why they are hitting the vita so hard all of a sudden.
        MS has the advantage with launch titles you are right there, Im not entirely sure why Sony gave that to them on a silver platter, but i am hoping they have a sneaky little plan up the old sleeve.
        I do not believe they are too invested in ps3 exclusives and indies to also focus on their new baby. Its just not good business practice or logic, and they are not idiots, so that is not the case.
        MS have shown themselves to be an absolute bunch of buffoons since day one of the reveal, and to think they have it in the bag is a big mistake.
        While I dont want to call xbone shit because its not, it is a good piece of hardware with good potential, i do believe that sony will take this one for the sole reason that they are more customer driven, while MS is opinionated and arrogant to thier own misguided beliefs.

        Reply

        • Pieter Kruger

          October 10, 2013 at 09:23

          I get the impression that their biggest reason for lack of 1sp party titles are budget constraints! Hopefully I’m wrong, but that’s precisely the reason I’m going with Xbone, for the games, available now and in (near) future!

          Reply

  34. Stanley Watson

    October 9, 2013 at 13:58

    What TV features do you actually get with the Xbone if you use Unotelly with Netflix and Hulu+ (which I am considering doing now already)

    Reply

    • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

      October 9, 2013 at 14:15

      Quite a few actually, but to benefit, you’ll have to create an american xbox and PSN account, and at this stage with Microsoft console banning people for accessing content outside their geographic zones, we might see something similar on the bone’s xbl – Actually assured, given the security boosts on account creation and maintenance.

      Sony has been mum about this issue, but I think it’ll become an issue during the generation, so I wouldn’t be surprised if both SOny and Microsoft start banning people for accessing content that’s not licensed in their regions.

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      • Stanley Watson

        October 10, 2013 at 09:35

        Thanks for the info..! I’ll just access that content in another way and keep the consoles for gaming. So, PS4 for me.

        Reply

  35. NecroRince

    October 9, 2013 at 14:00

    @lazygamers:disqus ”
    Kinect included” You win the internet today fine sir 🙂

    Reply

    • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

      October 9, 2013 at 14:11

      Some fine trolling there!

      Reply

  36. AMIBOTHERED

    October 9, 2013 at 14:23

    Xbone ftw! Not a PS fan. I consider myself a westerner living in a western culture. Too many Doki Nori crappy names Indie games I cannot even pronounce on the PS and they’re trying to push that crap down my throat! Keep it!

    Reply

    • Major FoxHoundR - what the fox

      October 9, 2013 at 14:26

      I get xbox one too because it made in america! USA number 1!

      Reply

      • Kyou

        October 10, 2013 at 19:45

        AH, SO I’VE HEARD!! SO YOU ARE AN XBOX FANBOY RIGHT!? I’M NOT A NINTENDO OR A SONY FANBOY!! IF YOU THINK I’M A FANBOY, YOU’RE AN IDIOT!!

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  37. Major FoxHoundR - what the fox

    October 9, 2013 at 14:25

    XBOX ONE FOR THE WON

    Reply

    • Admiral Chief of Rivia

      October 9, 2013 at 14:29

      Jimmy and Foxy showing up at the same time…………

      Reply

      • NecroRince

        October 9, 2013 at 14:31

        I noted that too…

        Reply

        • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

          October 9, 2013 at 14:36

          Hey?

          Reply

        • Downloadable content John

          October 9, 2013 at 14:38

          It unravels….

          Reply

          • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

            October 9, 2013 at 14:40

            The suspense is killing me… what are we waiting for?

        • TiMsTeR1033

          October 9, 2013 at 14:55

          He is getting good!

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  38. brad coetzee

    October 9, 2013 at 14:34

    uynna vok im sick of this xb1 ps4 malarky now. shit a cinder block.

    Reply

    • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

      October 9, 2013 at 14:41

      A cinder block? Damn bro.. you need to eat some muesli!!! Fibre is good for the colon!

      Reply

      • brad coetzee

        October 9, 2013 at 14:43

        hahaha ya I’ve over done it again

        Reply

    • Gavin Mannion

      October 9, 2013 at 14:45

      It hasn’t even started yet

      Reply

      • brad coetzee

        October 9, 2013 at 14:55

        it started since each was revealed but ya I hear what you’re saying. Its only going to get worse.

        Reply

        • Spathi

          October 9, 2013 at 15:41

          Or better, depending on your point of view 😀

          Reply

  39. StephanN

    October 9, 2013 at 14:35

    4 da Games!
    Xbox One and PC! They speaka da same language! Whats dees PS4 everybodys talking ’bout?

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  40. Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

    October 9, 2013 at 14:46

    Typical Lagz – a console war erupts. fanbois soil their underpants, YET in one corner a meaty discussion starts about cars, while another is about someone’s sister.

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    • Downloadable content John

      October 9, 2013 at 14:49

      Wouldn’t want it any other way

      Reply

      • That Happy Twit

        October 9, 2013 at 15:20

        LOL!

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    • shutit

      October 12, 2013 at 10:42

      HA HAHAHAHA SHUT IT FAG

      Reply

      • NecroRince

        October 12, 2013 at 13:03

        HAHAHAH! Brilliant! FAG, it gets me every time! The WIT involved! You must be oh so PROUD man! That education your parents wasted their money on really shows. Good job.

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  41. Boltjes

    October 9, 2013 at 14:49

    I would have to try them both round a friends or in store to know which one I will buy. I like to try the feel of the console and try a couple of the games first too. Currently I am leaning towards the playstation though!

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  42. Suspect

    October 9, 2013 at 14:59

    PS4 due to PS+ network that to me is better value than XBOX live.
    some of the xbone launch titles will coming to the ps4 any way. but in the end is what ever floats your boat

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  43. FoxOneZA

    October 9, 2013 at 15:08

    AMDeeeeeeeee RAAAAAADDDDDDEEEEEEEOOOOON R9 BABBBBBBYYYYY!

    Reply

    • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

      October 9, 2013 at 15:10

      I miss console Foxy… 🙁 PC Foxy is too mature!

      Reply

      • FoxOneZA

        October 9, 2013 at 16:15

        I haven’t totally given up on consoles. Bought Vanquish a week ago and the PC has been on a break ever since.

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  44. Unavengedavo(aka. IceCreamMan)

    October 9, 2013 at 15:19

    I believe that this fit the blob post perfectly…

    Ps4 vs Xbox One – Console Wars The Musical

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  45. Rikus

    October 9, 2013 at 15:22

    Not trolling, this is a serious question. Why is everybody saying the Xbone has a better launch line-up of games? I’m not really seeing it. I get that the controller is a matter of personal preference, but the games I don’t get. Are you saying this just because of Dead Rising 3 that was on display behind closed doors at rAge? Ryse and Dead rising. I don’t really call that a “line-up”. And please don’t say Forza, because then I will say Driveclub and Gran Turismo (granted, GT is also on PS3). I would much rather call both console’s launch line-up mediocre.

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    • Spathi

      October 9, 2013 at 15:40

      Exactly. Not one of the consoles’ launch line-ups are anything to boast about and the multi platform games are actually the exciting ones.

      Reply

    • Jeremy Mattsen

      October 10, 2013 at 17:53

      I think it is all a matter of opinion. To me the Xbox One lineup is better. I want to play 8 launch games from the One compared to 4 from the PS 4. That’s why I will probably get the One first then the PS 4. It is all about personal preference.

      Reply

    • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

      October 10, 2013 at 18:08

      Absolutely agree!

      Reply

  46. Brian Murphy

    October 9, 2013 at 20:22

    “Apparently more powerful”

    Why is it so hard for people to admit, straight up, that Box A has more than Box B? Through common sense and general public feedback everyone knows that the difference is how it’s used But, the larger (and/or faster) resource pool is a measurable metric, and is typically listed as a pro, except in cases like say.. The PS3 where tapping into those resources took more time, new methods of programming etc.

    The difference is, now it’s the easier to program for, with the best specs, and cheapest price. So even if the One’s Esram isn’t that big of a deal to work with, the PS4 has the higher ceiling, that’s just reality, why word things ambiguously? Time will tell if that translates to better experiences…but you can’t really put that disclaimer on the bottom of every console box, can you?

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  47. Rockstar

    October 9, 2013 at 23:03

    Dodgy headset should also be under Xbox 180 Cons IMO.

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  48. Rockstar

    October 9, 2013 at 23:05

    My Xbox 360 has been great but I’m going PS4, I no longer trust MS and the PS4 is the better option for me.

    Reply

  49. Wyzak

    October 10, 2013 at 08:51

    I will be getting neither. I have the only next-gen console that can play current gen games as well.

    Reply

    • Brady miaau

      October 10, 2013 at 11:19

      Wi-U?

      Reply

  50. Christopher

    October 10, 2013 at 09:52

    I am thinking PC and buying a PS3. Is it still worth it? PS3 for the DVD and Odd game I can’t get on PC

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  51. Not A Fanboi

    October 10, 2013 at 12:09

    Yeah, I’m still torn. I owned a PS1, PS2 and currently have a PS3 and 360. I hardly ever use the PS3 mainly because I loathe the controller (no matter what little bits I put on it [rubber sleeve, trigger button clip-ons etc] it never sits in my hands comfortably. Therefore I’ve always used my 360, and I got rid of the Wii after it got boring about 2 weeks after I bought it.

    Now with the next gen, I have absolutely no interest in Kinect – do not want it do not want to pay for it, and the PS4 controller redesign looks good; although I’ll need to handle it to make sure…

    Having said that, the upcoming Steam console is also interesting….so….I really don’t know!

    At the moment I’m leaning to PS4 and Steam Console…..

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  52. DA3MONF3AR

    October 10, 2013 at 12:26

    Xbox one! Then ps4!

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  53. D the Gamer

    October 10, 2013 at 13:23

    Seriously thinking of switching to PlayStation after years of being a Xbox fan boy. The recent marketing scandal over the Kinect has made me feel betrayed to say the least.

    Reply

    • Jeremy Mattsen

      October 10, 2013 at 17:50

      what scandal? If you mean the sale of your data then that is like every other device and/ or service out there. If you agree to share your information they will… otherwise it is safe. Just like cookies on your browser, your cell phone, etc.

      Reply

      • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

        October 10, 2013 at 18:08

        Ah yes.. PRISM covers cellphones too. That’s why I’ve decided to go off the grid and go live in Kenya with the Masai. Not sure if I’ll be able to drink cattle blood, but I like jumping so that’s a boon.

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  54. DrKiller

    October 10, 2013 at 13:59

    Its quite disappointing that we couldn’t see the Kinect at rAge.. But I’ve played on the Xbox One, and the controller is MUCH better than the PS4 one.

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  55. bloop

    October 10, 2013 at 15:32

    I’m getting both, so I must be Rockefeller!

    Reply

    • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

      October 10, 2013 at 18:06

      Mmmm… I think you might be Hugh Hefner….

      Reply

  56. Daren Pitt

    October 10, 2013 at 15:57

    i read that a steambox could stream games from your other pc to play of your tv, seemed kinda pointless to get a steambox insteam of hooking your pc up to your tv directly. If ms could add the feature that it could stream from your windows pc to your tv then that would be a really useful feature

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  57. RoadShow

    October 10, 2013 at 18:00

    EXCUSE ME BUT LAUNCH TITLES?????

    Isn’t this person preference?

    AND WHAT’S THIS ABOUT XBOX EXCLUSIVES?

    Like Xbox 360 has proven for the last 4 years of it’s life XBOX WILL NEVER GIVE MORE. They will take your forced pay to play xbox live subscription (which also paywalls everything other than single player and blu ray player) make 2.75 billion per year + revenue from ads on home page yet NOT deliver exclusives.

    Sony has an army of studios so it will always pump out new exclusives. Sony puts money back into the games like the free exclusive content on AAA multi plats (PS3 – Red Dead Redemption, LA Noire, Batman AA & AC, Mortal Kombat, Street Fighter, Far Cry 3, FEAR, Battlefield, Fight Night, Assassins Creed – PS4 – Destiny, Watchdogs, Black Flag).

    So cons against Xbox needs to include paywall services, non upgradeable hard drive, no free games with xbox live, no free exclusive content (only pay to play timed DLC from 3 publishers), & exclusives on PC (titanfall, highest rated xbox one game is gonna be better on PC with free online play the PC way).

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    • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

      October 10, 2013 at 18:06

      Yeah, I’m getting a PS4 for Killzone and Infamous. PS4 all the way baby!

      Reply

      • Hammersteyn

        October 14, 2013 at 07:46

        Right you are sir

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  58. shutit

    October 10, 2013 at 19:24

    playstation online is shite, way too many kids on playstation. everyone is see talking rubbish and crying about the two consoles love playstation so yeah deff xone for me…

    Reply

    • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

      October 10, 2013 at 20:29

      HAHAHAHAHAH!

      Reply

  59. DarthDiggler

    October 10, 2013 at 20:06

    LOL this article is pretty bad.

    Reply

  60. Kevyne Collins

    October 10, 2013 at 20:16

    I love the people who say they don’t trust Microsoft. I just show them this: http://community.us.playstation.com/t5/PlayStation-3/Sony-s-PS3-Disappointment-Timeline/td-p/21223561

    Sony has lied to you guys more than anyone else. Damn and you’re dumb enough trust Sony over Microsoft? I gotta ask…What did Microsoft lie about? I guarantee you have no answer.

    Let’s look at the Next-Gen/Microsoft timeline:
    Febuary 2013- Sony holds a conference. Rumors of DRM were already out there because developers requested it. Sony has no comment on that situation.

    May 2013- a.) Microsoft holds a conference for the Xbox One. Tells you about DRM openly and always online. Took the initiative and all the negativity.
    b.) Few days later AFTER MS, Sony announces NoDRM to undercut Microsoft. They also undercut Microsoft by removing the PSeye from being bundled with every system, thus removing the 100 bucks off the PS4’s price. (Which backfires because they are now selling at a loss of $60 per PS4. We know the PSEye is $60. If PS4 were to sell at $499, they’d only be selling at a $20 loss. They choose the “Shame Microsoft to get consumers” route, which until recently has been working charms.)

    June 2013- a.) Were it not for MS’s DRM, they would have eviscerated Sony at E3 because Xbox’s exclusives are better. Titanfall killed it. Ryse looks good. Dead Rising 3 looks like badass fun. Forza 5…do I need to say anything else? Killed Drive Club. However, Sony pandered like they never thought about DRM or a PSEye Bundle.
    b.) Microsoft comes out and removes DRM/mandatory connection a few weeks after E3. They evolved to the consumer. It was the Developers who asked for DRM. Remember that. You heard no developer complaining about the Xbox’s DRM. Only the consumer. Call it what you want. Microsoft trying to save profit. Etc etc. You, the consumer, figured out that you had power to affect Microsoft.
    c.) PRISM scandal surfaces and has Microsoft’s name plastered across the front page. Sony has not been linked yet.

    August 2013- Gamescom. No retail PS4’s were available to play games, except for Knack. Every other game was running on a PC or Devkit. Xbox One games are seen running on Xbox One’s and available to be touched; wires running directly from Xbox One to TV.

    October 2013- Sony admits they cut the camera out because of price. (Yet, like I said, they would only be at a $20 dollar loss if they had it bundled. How does price make sense I ask?)

    So…Now we are here. You know all of Sony lies. You have proof. Where has Microsoft lied? I can possibly give you 1 area. They said they couldn’t remove the Kinect without drastically changing things, but they did anyways. Did they lie? I think so. Yeah. They did. But…why does that white lie matter? Just trying to sell you something. It’s like saying “I don’t want that extra controller in my bundle. So since you are forcing me to get it, I won’t be buying your console!! BITCH!”

    1 lie. 1 half-assed lie to sell you something. And if you have fears of Microsoft spying, they can’t. The Same X1 is launching in Australia. The Kinect was removed because of Australia’s laws, as was the mandatory connection. People seem to think that other countries don’t matter. And NOW China is going to allow Microsoft to sell an Xbox (or look-alike rebranded)! China. The most security conscious body on the planet. The one country that trusts no one. Thank you China. Thank you Australia. Thank you Germany. Thank you guys for your laws that force Microsoft to be truthful. Xbox One is not region locked. Means all Xbone’s are the same. SO! The American on is the same as the European one. Microsoft cannot spy on you without breaking major international laws and possibly starting a war with China.

    Yeah…Microsoft has no choice but to tell you the truth, coupled with 1 white lie so far. Yet…Microsoft is gonna reverse DRM. Or spy on me. Like I said. Developers want DRM. DRM is on Steam. DRM will make it to consoles one day. If you think Sony is excluded, tell that to their pocket books which lost 4 billion dollars on the PS3. Sony will be the first to screw you over cost.

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    • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

      October 10, 2013 at 20:28

      The spin is strong with this one. I dub thee… Major Nelson!

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      • Kevyne Collins

        October 10, 2013 at 20:38

        Spin? Like I said. Point at 1 lie by Microsoft besides the Kinect. This is all proof that I, along with others did our research and the evidence is right in front of everyone’s face. You can go touch it with your mouse. Go ahead.

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        • Kyou

          October 11, 2013 at 00:35

          WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO BE SMART!? I HATE IT WHEN PEOPLE TRY TO BECOME SMART!!

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          • Kevyne Collins

            October 11, 2013 at 01:02

            Lol! He/She says trying. You’re funnyy.

        • Daz

          October 11, 2013 at 13:22

          Well they said Windows 8 was good. Anyway PS4 for me as Infamous beats anything XBox have to offer and I’m also looking forward to Killzone. Plus there’s also all the future exclusives from Sony’s studios. The only game in the launch line-up from ms that I find the slightest bit tempting is Dead Rising but I played the first two and never finished them as they got a bit boring after a couple of hours. So nothing there to make me spend £430.

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          • Kevyne Collins

            October 11, 2013 at 18:21

            What does windows 8 have to do with Xbox? By now, you as an internet user should know that you do not buy even number OS’s from Microsoft. The odd numbers tend to be the best. IE, XP (5) and 7. Plus, we know Windows 8 is a mobile OS they are forcing on desktops before everyone has a touchscreen desktop like in the future movies. It’s a great mobile OS. Just a shitty desktop one.

            Anyways. Dude. Go back through all the E3 videos. Watch all the PS4 and Xbone games videos. THEN pretend like PS4/Xbone/PC don’t exist. Pretend like all those games are on Wii U. Then come talk to me. Be unbiased. Infamous looks ok for me. I’d rent it. I wouldn’t touch Knack because I make my own Knack with Project Spark. As a Carpornosapian, Forza is my holy grail. Drive Club just looks like shit to compare to Forza. Even more so when I have Forza Horizon on my 360 which I play on a daily basis when I get bored. Drive Club is a let down. I also suggest you listen to no one who calls Forza arcade because it is……….with all the assists turned on. Tell them to turn the assists off and THEN rate the game. Ryse looks pretty fun. I have no clue what the story is gonna be, but I want to find out. I understand the game will lose playability after you beat Multiplayer and the Story but I’ll give it a buy later. Not day one because I’m not sure they have the Kinect functions from the first iteration of Ryse where you can punch and kick and block with your hands and feet. And then you have all the cross-platform games which are amazing. And let’s throw in the Order 1886 i think? I have no clue about that game but I hear some good things. And then we have the first true Next-Gen announced game: Quantum Break. They decided gameplay was not enough. They made a tv show to go along with the game with episodic content and it’s cool that your actions in game decided what happens in the show. I don’t know if it will work, but the game concept does not exist. Remedy is so far outside the box, they’re boarderline on the event horizon of the nearest black hole from Earth (exaggerating).

            Now that’s what I saw. You go look at them for yourself. Pretend platforms don’t exist. Then come talk to me.

          • Daz

            October 11, 2013 at 21:37

            You said give an example of when Microsoft had lied, you weren’t specific that that it had to be about the XBox. Anyway I was just messing more than anything else. I couldn’t be more unbiased. I’ve gamed on ps3, xbox 360, pc and Wii this generation so I went into the next gen with an open mind and for me ps4 came out on top. This was mainly due to Sony’s studios as I’m not ready to give up games from Naughty Dog or Santa Monica yet as them along with Infamous have been some of my favorite series. I can live without Halo and Gears of War. I’m not much of a racing game enthusiast but I might give Driveclub a go as Sony are giving it away free.

  61. samiup

    October 10, 2013 at 20:59

    XBO is for me the only next gen console.

    PS4 is not that much different from PS3.

    i will probably end up with both in late 2014 but i am getting the XBO first.

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    • Mike

      October 12, 2013 at 03:10

      You are an idiot

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      • Mike

        October 12, 2013 at 03:12

        Ps4 is nothing like ps3. Maybe the playstation in the title but that’s it.

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  62. Asmodai

    October 10, 2013 at 21:48

    PS4 for me. User replacable HDD (My PS3 went from a 60GB at purchase to a 500GB now), no paywall for Netflix, Amazon Prime, F2P MMOs, etc., better hardware for less money. I have ZERO interest in motion controls (Kinect, Move, or Wii.) Plus if it makes it to the U.S. the PS Vita TV looks pretty sweet for a bedroom PS4 without having to buy two top $$ consoles.

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  63. Megaman

    October 10, 2013 at 23:07

    I thought a Con for the PS4 would of been PAY TO PLAY ONLINE….PS EYE is watching to

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  64. Launch Titles?

    October 10, 2013 at 23:51

    More launch titles? Are you REALLY going to buy all the launch titles? PS4 is coming out with some good games at launch (Watch Dogs, Killzone, Assassins Creed, 2K, etc.) by the time you’re finished with them there will be another awesome lineup of games released. The only reason I would consider getting an XBOne would be for the Halo Series. Been playing Halo since Combat evolved so I want to finish the series. Anyways, Sony thought things out better, and unlike Microsoft who had to backpedal on some of their “ideas”, PS4 will win the console wars. Peace out – Red

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  65. bandit766

    October 11, 2013 at 01:07

    Whats with the massive slant to xbox in terms of games? Dunno if you guys remember Warframe and Planetside 2?

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    • Kevyne Collins

      October 11, 2013 at 01:10

      Exclusives that aren’t already out are getting the attention. New games. Xbox has some awesome new games. And eventually will get Warframe. Planetside 2, not so much.

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  66. slop_E_secnds

    October 11, 2013 at 02:58

    Have any of you looked at the new design of the xbone. It has been designed to stay on for ten straight years, with drastically improved ventilation and a giant fan. Plus it can reallocate power to reduce heat when it gets to hot, so this argument is moot.

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  67. Hillbilly Chris

    October 11, 2013 at 03:31

    The PS4 has some amazing launch titles! Call of Duty Ghosts, Battlefield 4, Assassins Creed 4, Knack, Driveclub! I don’t think you should be the one to tell us what is good and what is not. Keep in mind also that you will be able to stream old Playstation titles via Gaikai. Backwards compatiblitly and , check out this site: http://community.us.playstation.com/t5/PlayStation-General/List-of-Compatible-PS3-Accessories-for-PS4/td-p/4083184. Please do your homework before you post anything and do not make assumptions as to what are “Amazing launch titles”.

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  68. Anukul

    October 11, 2013 at 14:03

    xbox have amazing launch lineup and ps4 is “lack of exciting titles” , are you kidding? http://www.ign.com/wikis/xbox-one/PS4_Games_vs_Xbox_One_Games

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  69. SpnkNMymnky

    October 11, 2013 at 18:28

    I’ve been a gamer on xbox for years now. However, I think Microsoft let Oboma in their office to just fuck everything up. Fuck what the people want and lets set some hideous rules and regulations. I think Sony kept the consumer’s needs and wants in mind.I know this is my sole opinion however I’m out for the best interest in what we the consumer’s pay for and want. Yes I’m very glad to be switching to Sony. Microsoft keep the Oboma mentality out of your office and start listening to what the consumer wants. Look at the economy and how fucked up things are and keep that in mind for your next go around when making all these rules and regulations.

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  70. Michael Barno

    October 11, 2013 at 21:31

    Launch title excitement is an opinion, and how is the PS4 eye inferior? Personally I think it’s better than the Kinect 2.0 with dual cameras and microphones

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  71. CartierBesson

    October 11, 2013 at 22:55

    to me, they are same. In the end it’s really depends on what my friends are getting on. but I do love PSN is free. This year, due to busy schedule, I didn’t touch my PS3 for 9 months. if I had Xbox live, I would’ve paid for that 9 months for nothing. I know it’s not expensive, but xbox is made by microsoft who made 100 different versions of windows just to nickle and dime customers.

    remember that folks…

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  72. Brandon

    October 11, 2013 at 23:05

    xbox one already preordered day one edition better launch titles at the cost of less graphical power compared to ps4 when it comes to consoles good games come first graphics come second

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  73. Brandon

    October 11, 2013 at 23:05

    hi

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  74. Guest

    October 11, 2013 at 23:45

    I always get a nice chuckle watching people arguing like mad over which platform is better. I think I’d rather just wait until they both actually come out before I decide which one is better. Because, odds are, information about the platforms will be more accurate after the platforms come out than before.

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  75. shutit

    October 12, 2013 at 10:05

    playstation online is total shite, playstation users are mainly annoying kids. you only have to read a handful of playstation fan boys comments online to realise what type of person buys a playstation , childish little bellends who just trash talk and cry about things they know nothing about. my choice is xone for those reasons and the fact xlive is awesome and xone had a much better controller. …

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  76. LOL

    October 12, 2013 at 18:41

    @shutit Says the one being a bitch about it and whining.

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  77. shutit

    October 12, 2013 at 22:34

    thats facts not bitching skid….

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  78. Rhinosaur

    October 12, 2013 at 22:47

    How does the Xbone have better launch titles?. Ryse looks clunky and boring, and the visuals aren’t as impressive as they’re making them out to be. Forza looks pretty good, but its racing game not a system seller, and dead rising 3 may or may not be laggy as hell due to so many enemy being on screen, it certainly won’t be at 60 fps. I’m not saying the Xbone is bad system it has its pros, but launch titles is not one of them.

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  79. Joey Nicastro

    October 13, 2013 at 00:07

    I am unemployed so I can’t afford either one ….

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  80. Joey Nicastro

    October 13, 2013 at 00:07

    I am unemployed so I can’t afford either one ….

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  81. Joey Nicastro

    October 13, 2013 at 00:07

    I am unemployed so I can’t afford either one ….

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  82. Matthew

    October 13, 2013 at 00:27

    Preordered an Xbox One 🙂

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  83. VoiceOfReason

    October 13, 2013 at 14:12

    Lets sort out this xbox one pros/cons list.

    PROS

    Amazing launch titles
    Haptic triggers on control
    Xbox Live
    Kinect included
    Paid-for exclusives thanks to Microsoft
    *Backwards Compatible via HDMI in port

    CONS

    More expensive
    Can’t stand vertically
    Not backwards compatible with accessories

    Do your research people 😉

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    • Cheddar Bob

      October 13, 2013 at 14:17

      So you can play your xbox 360 games, but you need to plug it into the back of the box one? I suppose it’s a fair trade off, does this mean that it will use the new multitask?

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      • Guest

        October 13, 2013 at 14:19

        I think it lets u swap between the 2?

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        • Hillbilly Chris

          October 13, 2013 at 14:21

          I had 3 broken xbox 360’s due to RROD!! I hope this new ones an improvment.

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  84. Brian Murphy

    October 13, 2013 at 17:11

    You cannot create a label for unreleased games, that you’ve not played in their entirety. Once upon a time, Skyrim was a 10/10 on this very site, was it not? So, stating ‘amazing’ titles, is subjective and not provable by this site, or anyone until the games themselves are in the populaces hands.

    As far as including XBL/PSN…not sure the consoles themselves can use that as a pro/con. Unless they’re giving subscriptions away for free with the purchase of those consoles, I think Sony is for all pre-orders (a year free), not sure about Microsoft though (and even then, for the rest, it’s not a pro, because you have to pay on top of the original cost of the console, just to have them). Plus, it’s not like PSN/XBL aren’t available on other consoles…so how is that a pro/con for PS4/Xbox One?

    A more factual pro for the PS4 would’ve been, capable of accepting any 3rd party HDD for upgrade (How useful was that for the PS3? Hands? Who upgraded their PS3?)

    Stating improved controller this, or haptic trigger that, is subjective also. I’ve seen people who dislike the new PS4 controller and I’ve seen people who dislike the haptic triggers.

    “Paid for exclusives by Microsoft” – Also subjective, nobody knows the quality or quantity of these titles.

    A Pro you missed for the PS4, but added for the One….Sony’s offering live TV shows, through the PS4, without needing a cable box (Deal with Viacom). Yes, Microsoft is offering TV features, but they also require a TV Box, so in addition to the One, you’re also paying for the Cable subscription. But, we’ve yet to see how these features will pan out on either machine, so calling it a pro or con for either is a bit premature.

    “Apparently more powerful” – An asinine statement if I’ve ever read one. You have a list of pro’s and con’s here, and you can’t even be straight on one that really has no confusion, or subjectivity to it. The specs on the PS4 are more powerful, end of story, it’s a pro. Deal with it. As I said in a different post, time will tell if that power gets used in ways we can see and appreciate. But, when creating a list like this, before the consoles launch, you have no idea how those resources will be applied.

    You purposefully state that the LG staff’s choice is heresay because of the haptic triggers and launch lineup, but forget that you added those two as Pro’s, for the Xbox One. Heresay, is not bullet points for a Pro/Con list.

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  85. Brian Murphy

    October 13, 2013 at 17:11

    You cannot create a label for unreleased games, that you’ve not played in their entirety. Once upon a time, Skyrim was a 10/10 on this very site, was it not? So, stating ‘amazing’ titles, is subjective and not provable by this site, or anyone until the games themselves are in the populaces hands.

    As far as including XBL/PSN…not sure the consoles themselves can use that as a pro/con. Unless they’re giving subscriptions away for free with the purchase of those consoles, I think Sony is for all pre-orders (a year free), not sure about Microsoft though (and even then, for the rest, it’s not a pro, because you have to pay on top of the original cost of the console, just to have them). Plus, it’s not like PSN/XBL aren’t available on other consoles…so how is that a pro/con for PS4/Xbox One?

    A more factual pro for the PS4 would’ve been, capable of accepting any 3rd party HDD for upgrade (How useful was that for the PS3? Hands? Who upgraded their PS3?)

    Stating improved controller this, or haptic trigger that, is subjective also. I’ve seen people who dislike the new PS4 controller and I’ve seen people who dislike the haptic triggers. For example, people have expressed a keen interest in the new UI for the PS4, but that’s not listed as a Pro. Why? Because it’s subjective, what one person likes doesn’t mean everyone else does.

    “Paid for exclusives by Microsoft” – Also subjective, nobody knows the quality or quantity of these titles.

    A Pro you missed for the PS4, but added for the One….Sony’s offering live TV shows, through the PS4, without needing a cable box (Deal with Viacom). Yes, Microsoft is offering TV features, but they also require a TV Box, so in addition to the One, you’re also paying for the Cable subscription. But, we’ve yet to see how these features will pan out on either machine, so calling it a pro or con for either is a bit premature.

    “Apparently more powerful” – An asinine statement if I’ve ever read one. You have a list of pro’s and con’s here, and you can’t even be straight on one that really has no confusion, or subjectivity to it. The specs on the PS4 are more powerful, end of story, it’s a pro. Deal with it. As I said in a different post, time will tell if that power gets used in ways we can see and appreciate. But, when creating a list like this, before the consoles launch, you have no idea how those resources will be applied.

    You purposefully state that the LG staff’s choice is heresay because of the haptic triggers and launch lineup, but forget that you added those two as Pro’s, for the Xbox One. Heresay, is not a bullet point for a Pro/Con list.

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  86. Cody Graham

    October 13, 2013 at 17:27

    Honestly, I’m not as much of a gamer as most people on here, but I just want to say that I think x-box 360 fans are going to get x-box one and ps3 fans are going to get ps4. I’m getting a ps4 bc I have a ps3 and I could care less if someone’s getting an x-box one. You can get down to the nitty-gritty spec and content comparisons, but the reality what console is REALLY better is a matter of opinion… It’s a war of alliances… And 4 months nobody’s gunna care anymore! Just sayin

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  87. Ace Boogie

    October 14, 2013 at 02:10

    PS4

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  88. Hammersteyn

    October 14, 2013 at 07:45

    Obvious choice is obvious. Not using the PS4’s Dodgy Headset or PS Eye anyways. The other issues like launch titles, well Killzone and Watchdogs is pretty exciting and neither console is backwards compatible but both companies are still supporting the older ones till who knows when.

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  89. Surging

    October 16, 2013 at 05:09

    If game developers were smart this next gen they would develop the game at top quality first for PS4 then it would be cheaper to port over to xbone because all they would be doing is downscaling it too 900p and chopping half the graphics out. .. Developers please do it this way then we do not have to live with xbones poor graphic quality and resolution .. thanks 🙂

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  90. Sarthak

    October 20, 2013 at 23:28

    PS4

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  91. justin

    October 21, 2013 at 17:06

    cool

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  92. JCat_NY

    November 7, 2013 at 01:28

    PS4 – it will have more of a variety down the line, and won’t be a FPS bro machine.

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  93. NudeTruth

    November 18, 2013 at 21:09

    What is xbox’s exciting launch title? that roman game is the only one I saw that wasn’t on PS4. I want to give this the benefit of the doubt but this article seems like it was written by an xbox fanboi

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  94. Snow_Fan

    December 30, 2013 at 21:29

    Personally I’m getting a PS4, saves space since it stands vertically, I personally like the controller better and Rumors of the Xbone causing circular scratches rendering disks unplayable? Sadly I don’t wish to take that risk, and personally I like Sony better than Microsoft.

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