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You can customise everything in GT5… well everything in certain spots and on certain cars

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There has been a very strange backlash against Gran Turismo 5 over the past week which seemed to have started when the massive car list was unveiled.

In passing a car list of over 1000 vehicles should be something to crow about from the rooftops, and this is pretty much what ever GT5 fan did until people started looking closer and noticing that not only do we not have a single Porsche in the game but we also have a whole pile of Daihatsu’s that really no one cares about. Not to mention multiple models of pretty much the exact same car.

Then news broke yesterday that only 2 tracks will allow full weather features, something which just boggles my mind really. How have they developed the weather system to make it dependent on a track?

Anyway again that’s not a major flaw and neither is the latest one that popped up today. According to Playstationlifestyle you can also not change the wheels on any of the standard cars in the system and if you want to start tinkering with a car you need to upgrade to a premium model.

Which again is a truly bizarre decision and one I can’t see any technical merits for.

GT5 releases next week and I am sure on release all these weird minor bugs will be forgotten at the first sound of a Ferrari engine screaming down the back straight.

Source: PlaystationLifestyle

Last Updated: November 16, 2010


  1. Fox1

    November 16, 2010 at 10:05

    La di da…lalalala :whistle:


  2. darthdad

    November 16, 2010 at 10:10

    I was hoping for a more subtle angle from this site. 🙁


  3. easy

    November 16, 2010 at 10:32

    to be honest I’m not sure what the issue is really. seems to be nit picking for the sake of it.
    although it was to be expected… 6 long years makes people look for faults.

    all this nonsense certainly won’t sway my purchase decision.


  4. Geoffrey Tim

    November 16, 2010 at 10:38

    I see “GT5” and my head just shuts off. It doesn’t exist until I’m busy racing its go-karts around.


  5. al360

    November 16, 2010 at 10:47

    hmmmm i’ll still pick it up but i was expecting the weather and time feauture to be available as u saw fit
    i did see a list of cars that i would in a million years seee myself driving so i understand the article
    as it does peev me off to wait so long and still not get the product what the hell have they been doing all this time ??? :dizzy: :dizzy: :dizzy: :dizzy:


  6. Fox1

    November 16, 2010 at 10:48

    Look it’s Daihatsu’s racing in the rain with it’s dinky tires :w00t:


  7. BottomSmacker

    November 16, 2010 at 10:59

    Not a single Porsche? excuse me?…….

    834 – RUF 3400S ’00
    835 – RUF BTR ’86
    836 – RUF CTR2 ’96
    837 – RUF CTR “Yellow Bird” ’87
    838 – RUF RGT ’00

    Not only do they clearly have Porsche’s, they have the best ones ^^

    But yeah, my big issue is that they don’t have an Aston Martin DB5, and they have way too many Nissan Skylines xD

    as far as weather effects, they have it on the only track that really matters ^^ The Nürburgring 24hr.

    At least we can guarantee that the weather effects coded for certain tracks will mean we get something more realistic than just a shiny wet surface that is slippy all over. It means the track will have points on it which will have real effects like super slippy rumble strips on the apex and run-off, and maybe even waterflow crossing the tracks, and standing water (puddles?). Maybe even water build up off the racing line. Coding weather for individual tracks is a great idea.

    Hope things do expand over time with updates maybe?


  8. Bobby Kotick for Dummies

    November 16, 2010 at 11:10

    WOW! The Forza fanbois are out in force I see.

    By the way, if I’m not mistaken, GT5 is a DRIVING simulator, and not a Racing simulator :happy:

    As for the lack of Porsches: Are you guys serious? I thought it was common knowledge that because of an ongoing licensing issue with EA (who has/had the license for Porsche for years), Polyphony has never been able to secure it. Whether that’s still the case, is up to Lazygamer to find out.

    @Bottomsmacker: Agreed!


  9. Fred

    November 16, 2010 at 11:11

    Ja man , dit is nie Brakpan nie , vergeet die mags en die sidepipes.


  10. Bobby Kotick for Dummies

    November 16, 2010 at 11:13

    @easy But it’s getting annoying now. I know they’re getting pleasure in baiting lans, who seems to have a perpetual hardon for GT5, but the way these guys are going on, you’d think GT5 will launch with 3 hatchbacks and one oval track.


  11. Atomic

    November 16, 2010 at 11:15

    Dude..RUF does not count, they are just pimped out porsches and poor substitute for the real deal.

    Porsche produce Porsches, not RUF. I dont care to drive around in a custom ride when Porsche make some of the best GT track cars in the world


  12. Eet

    November 16, 2010 at 11:15

    Right said Fred! Also Bobby Kotick, I agree with you. Any GT veteran would know this it’s common knowledge. And the whole Premium and standard cars thing was made clear on the gran turismo website for like a whole year already. Die mense moet note vat ne!


  13. Bobby Kotick for Dummies

    November 16, 2010 at 11:19

    lol, the Kinects are that way.


  14. Fox1

    November 16, 2010 at 11:20



  15. Fox1

    November 16, 2010 at 11:22

    Those “Porsches” are old. You could laps around them with the Nissan GTR.


  16. BottomSmacker

    November 16, 2010 at 11:22

    RUF is just a tuned Porsche, it is still a Porsche, just better balanced, blueprinted and bleeding fast xD (and sounds better ^^)


  17. Bobby Kotick for Dummies

    November 16, 2010 at 11:25

    Same body, same chassis.

    If it looks like a Porsche, sounds like a Porsche, drives like a Porsche, but does not have the Porsche name, is it not still a Porsche? Or is that little nameplate really that important?


  18. BottomSmacker

    November 16, 2010 at 11:25

    I am not a fan of Porsche’s at all, just pointing out that they do exist in the game. As long as I can get my Spitty 1500, my Cobra (will have to be shelby as that is premium), my Ford GT, my V8 Vantage, I will be happy, shame about the DB5 missing though xD


  19. Fox1

    November 16, 2010 at 11:26

    Ever since I’ve joined Lazygamer, GT5 has been hyped to heaven and back and Forza was always hit down because GT5 would be a gabillion times better. Go have a look at the comments on the Forza 3 review particularly.

    Tables are turning…one Diahatsu wheelie at a time 😉


  20. Bobby Kotick for Dummies

    November 16, 2010 at 11:27

    And, since both carry the same VW engines under the hood, it’s really a moot point.


  21. Fox1

    November 16, 2010 at 11:28

    People are getting quite angry about this lack of customisability mainly because they can’t virtually re-create the car they own in real life and then show it of online.


  22. BottomSmacker

    November 16, 2010 at 11:34

    a blessing that we won’t have to see tons of pimped up punto’s, 106’s, saxos and corsas with drainpipes for exhausts xD


  23. Bobby Kotick for Dummies

    November 16, 2010 at 11:35

    That still does not change the fact that Forza is still not on par with Gran Turismo. Forza is an ok racer and it straddles that fine line between simulator and arcade racer perfectky (which is probably why it’s so popular amongst young kids), but there’s not much there. Do you know anyone who still plays Forza online? Neither do I, but I know folks who still play Gran Turismo 4 (and religiously I might add).


  24. Erik

    November 16, 2010 at 11:37

    Sorry, but ignorant bloggers haring ignorant opinions really annoys me. If you knew anything about Gran Turismo you would know that Porsche isn’t a brand that you expect to see in the game. And as with Ferrari and Lamborghini I am sure that if Polyphony ever got hold of a license to use Porsche they would announce it pretty big. Also, if you knew anything about Gran Turismo, Daihatsu wouldn’t come as a surprise, fact is that all of the Daihatsu’s in the game were featured in earlier versions. And “multiple models of the same car” quite clearly demonstrates that you are not really interested in cars at all (cause if you were you would see and appreciate the differences between different versions of a model). Finally, in your last sentence you clearly demonstrates that you don’t know anything about gaming and software design, because a bug is an unintended flaw. The restrictions of standard cars, weather etc. are all intended and have been announced in a good and proper order.


  25. Fox1

    November 16, 2010 at 11:38

    No. You get a ton pre-pimped Skylines, Miata’s and S2000’s :angel:


  26. Bobby Kotick for Dummies

    November 16, 2010 at 11:40

    That’s why Need for Speed exists, because it’s clear that the GT crowd is a very different demographic (far more sophisticated too).

    I should probably explain myself, amongst racing fans, there’s the petrolhead (the guy who wants an in-depth simulator (i.e. GT5), where he can control gear ratios etc.) and then the Forza/Need for Speed methheads. These are the kids who likes to paint their car neon green, with penis decals and lights at the bottom of their cars.


  27. Fox1

    November 16, 2010 at 11:40

    “Not on par”- I wouldn’t want Forza to be on par with GT5 :tongue:


  28. Erik

    November 16, 2010 at 11:41

    Well, I am sorry to break the news for you, but it seems like you’ve been waiting for the wrong game. And honestly it’s kind of stupid to be waiting for a product that only exists in your imagination and then rage at the producers when they not deliver what YOU have promised yourself. I mean, come on…


  29. Nick de Bruyne

    November 16, 2010 at 11:44

    Err, I don’t think Forza and NFS sit in the same category


  30. BottomSmacker

    November 16, 2010 at 11:46

    Or in a more simple term:

    The Motorsport/car and track day enthusiast.

    The illegal street racer/boy racer.

    You did forget the ‘Just for fun’ one day go-karter though ^^

    I know for a fact I am definitely going to have to take one of those go-karts to the Nürburgring with a load of friends if the game allows it xD Just for giggles ^^


  31. Steve Hofmeyr

    November 16, 2010 at 11:46

    Let’s time-out and dissect this post shall we?

    – No porsches. (For a game that’s appealing to driving and racing purists, this is probably a negative. Forza got them so it’s strange that GT didn’t pay royalties to EA to use them.)
    – Loads of copy/paste cars like Daihatsu (what’s the use of having a 1000+ car list if the majority of cars are “filler”. Maybe they could have cut down and released the game sooner?)
    – Weather system dependent on track (To me it would make sense to develop a physics system to mimic weather effects on any track)
    – Customizing only certain cars (Not a major issue. Customizing cars are overrated imo)

    Now here comes the important part so listen up fanboys before bashing me:
    GT5 will be awesome so why the damage control? Does it really matter what lazygamer say about GT5? Being confident means taking criticism in your stride, not throwing a fit.
    The game would have been better with Porches, less copy/paste cars and weather effects on all tracks so stop complaining about a news post that mentions it. Maybe if you complain hard enough it will be present in the next GT.


  32. Fox1

    November 16, 2010 at 11:48

    Forza is as in-depth as it gets. I guess you never used the tuning setup manager and you never saw the telemetery model in action. Pro racing drivers have set identical laptimes in Forza and their real life machines. And about fancy paint jobs go have a look at the fancy 100 Skylines in GT5.


  33. Bobby Kotick for Dummies

    November 16, 2010 at 11:50

    Being able to customise the body of your car is a cool feature, but that’s not the point of a driving simulator, and it would be unnecessary. in Gran Turismo.

    By the way, I loved how you could “rewind” in Forza, because little children need training wheels…. lol lame game is lame.


  34. Milesh Bhana

    November 16, 2010 at 11:51

    i can’t really comment on the Forza vs GT thing as i’ve never owned a Playstation 1 or 2.

    All i can say is that i think that the Forza car list is a much nicer spread (unfair comparision because i’m counting the DLC).

    @Bobby – up until the release of COD:BO, my clan was actively playing FM3, pretty much once a week. There is another fairly large group that’s also actively playing.

    So yes, I’m a forza fanboi because there’s simply nothing better on the xbox/ps3 RIGHT NOW.

    I look forward to checking out GT5.


  35. Steve Hofmeyr

    November 16, 2010 at 11:53

    Can’t you set gear ratio’s in forza as well?


  36. BottomSmacker

    November 16, 2010 at 11:53

    Damnit Steve!



    *throws a tantrum*


  37. Gavin Mannion

    November 16, 2010 at 11:54

    I have made it pretty clear I am not a major fan of GT5 but I will take you up on your last point. I know more than I should about software design and the fact that the weather system is dependent on the track is bad design. There is no getting around that and no amount of blind fanboyism will change that.

    Weather should be a completely secular system in the game and should react uniquely to it’s situation, not designed around certain situations.


  38. Bobby Kotick for Dummies

    November 16, 2010 at 11:57

    Yep, you can set gear ratios in Forza but it’s hardly as in depth as Fox is making it out to be. It’s a very simplified affair, and hardly realistic. Anyone tried to blow out their engine in Forza?

    Yeah, because you can’t.


  39. Syth

    November 16, 2010 at 11:58

    Foz, do you even know what a S2000 is? One of the most iconic roadsters ever. Jeremy Clarkson rates it higher than a Porsche Boxster. Guess when you drive a bike to school everyday, you wouldn’t get it.


  40. Bobby Kotick for Dummies

    November 16, 2010 at 11:58


    Actually Forza and Need for Speed have a lot in common, although Forza is hardly as “Arcade-y” as Need for Speed, but it’s hardly a racing simulator.

    Rewind… REWIND!!! I just drifted off the track. lol! Yawn!


  41. Fox1

    November 16, 2010 at 11:59

    Don’t wanna rewind don’t use it.

    Changing the look of the body of any car in Forza has it’s effects just like it would with any daily car. Spoilers add downforce and affect top speed. That’s why some cars come pimped out with spoilers and diffusers from manufactures.

    We’ve had this debate on Lazygamer with pro GT 5 fans that bought 3 copies of Forza 3 + Racing wheel + 3×50″ Bravia TV’s.


  42. Bobby Kotick for Dummies

    November 16, 2010 at 11:59

    lol Steve. RUF = Porsche!


  43. Syth

    November 16, 2010 at 12:01

    @ Fox, you know that GT4 has telemetry and in depth car setups? And that game is old. I really don’t get why people are even trying to compare GT with Forza. I’m not saying Forza is bad, but it like comparing a Boxster S against the 911 Turbo S. Both brilliant but not in the same class.


  44. Bobby Kotick for Dummies

    November 16, 2010 at 12:01

    If you can get a PS2, I highly recommend Tourist Trophy and Gran Turismo 4 for PS2. TT is the motorcyle/riding equivalent of GT (both are from the Polyphony stable)


  45. Fox1

    November 16, 2010 at 12:01

    While you drive a Miata in the rain with the roof open.

    Oh and Clarkson(Top Gear) has ditched GT for Forza :tongue:


  46. darthdad

    November 16, 2010 at 12:01

    Please refrain from making sensible comments, thank you.


  47. Syth

    November 16, 2010 at 12:02

    Point well made, I’m out of here (for the 2nd time :ninja: )


  48. Bobby Kotick for Dummies

    November 16, 2010 at 12:03

    lol, Training wheels for a “driving simulator” means it is an arcade racer.

    So you can take them off, big deal. It still doesn’t change the fact that arcade features are arcade features. 😛


  49. Bobby Kotick for Dummies

    November 16, 2010 at 12:05

    lol thank you Syth 😛 That’s a very good point. Also GT4 featured oil change, and the ability to truly…and I mean TRULY fuck up an engine. (Good times)

    Forza… lol… comes with training wheels.


  50. Bobby Kotick for Dummies

    November 16, 2010 at 12:06

    @Bottomsmacker Of course, how could I forget the kart racers?


  51. Fox1

    November 16, 2010 at 12:06

    Forza has it’s physics developed in conjunction with Mclaren F1.

    @Syth- Oh but Porsches weren’t so important since GT5’s release date was erm released :tongue:


  52. BottomSmacker

    November 16, 2010 at 12:09

    I am a big fan of Supercar Challenge on the PS3, graphics aren’t great, and it takes a little while to get used to the handling. But the audio from that game is great ^^

    It has been my GT5 Prologue to GT5 waiting game, that and F1 CE.


  53. Bobby Kotick for Dummies

    November 16, 2010 at 12:11


    Since, I knew about the licensing issue from GT1, GT2, GT3 and GT4, it really doesn’t bother me that the same is true for GT5. The lack of Porches has never been an issue for me, but you know what has been an issue for me…


    You know what Forza needed? It needed the driving license feature of GT, because nothing says you’re awesome, when you finally get the right license for a race.

    😛 #justsaying


  54. BottomSmacker

    November 16, 2010 at 12:17

    Oh my gosh, I would spend days perfecting my skills for the S License, love the license system so much!

    And for online racing this is going to be a true lifesaver, no numbskulls running into the side or back of you at a corner or sliding side to side on the track and sideswiping you into barriers to stop you overtaking them.


  55. Bobby Kotick for Dummies

    November 16, 2010 at 12:18

    What? Curb that bias son! Save that vitriol for the Fail that is Kinect!


  56. mikey

    November 16, 2010 at 12:19

    I just think its hilarious for people to be content with some of the what should be basic features, or lack thereof in GT5…
    – The inclusion of different weather is entirely dependant on what track its linked to!? comon? Racing sims on the PC that are 5-6 years old offer this feature to be set for any track you race on.
    – Customisation of Standards, in particular the changing of rims and tyres is a huge oversight! These things arent purely for aesthetic value – they do change the performance of the vehicle. Granted in some cases people like doing the whole ‘pimp my ride’ thing, which is not what i’m getting at…i hate that s#@t. But when you offer this feature in previous GT titles, then entirely omit them for the latest version after 6 years of production…the mind boggles.

    From what has been shown so far, GT5 looks beautiful, the sounds have been updated for the better, but some features that have been added as well as the ones taken away or gimped, gives off a feeling of lots of afterthought,and in turn piss poor time management and being over ambitious.


  57. Fox1

    November 16, 2010 at 12:30

    You don’t need a driving license feature when you are handed XP in Forza 3. CarPG FTW. :heart:


  58. bokka1

    November 16, 2010 at 12:30

    I have played GT and GT2 on PS1 and Forza 2 and 3 on the Xbox. I hardly ever tinker with the settings of the cars except to upgrade the cars.

    I can’t really see what the huge difference is between the two franchises. Maybe somebody can enlighten me.

    BTW you can’t use the rewind feature when playing online.


  59. Bobby Kotick for Dummies

    November 16, 2010 at 12:30

    @Mikey In my humble opinion, “pimp my ride” is for wannabe gangsters from the suburbs i.e. Oxygen thieves!

    But that’s the point, it’s not just aesthetics, if you add hood and other body modifications you alter the car’s aerodynamics (which was not reflected in Forza.. lol racing simulation my ass).

    Therefore if that was included in Gran Turismo, and they really wanted to maintain the moniker “Real Driving Simulation”, then every modification to a standard would have to be modelled and accurately simulated (regardless of how small a change it may make to overall speed etc.).


  60. Fox1

    November 16, 2010 at 12:31

    PS3 guys have being having it hard :angel:


  61. Jeebers

    November 16, 2010 at 12:31

    I have to lol at the 360/Forza fanboys doing their damndest to undermine and discredit GT. It’s so desparate and obvious. Keep it up guys, you continue to make twats of yourselves.


  62. spl0it

    November 16, 2010 at 12:34

    GT 5 gaan lekker kak wees


  63. Bobby Kotick for Dummies

    November 16, 2010 at 12:35

    CarRPG = Arcade Feature!

    A licensing feature would have been “realistic” and forcing you to complete and pass advanced driving scenarios would have been “realistic”.

    Gaining xp in a supposed racing Simulator is a load of eggs, but then at least you can REWIND 😛


  64. Bobby Kotick for Dummies

    November 16, 2010 at 12:37

    Lol! They’re trying too hard, Jeebers.


  65. Bobby Kotick for Dummies

    November 16, 2010 at 12:41

    bokka1… 😮 You don’t tinker with the cars? Dude…? That defeats the purpose of buying a racing/driving simulator, because setting up your car and running it on the test track to test for gains in speed and acceleration is what the game is truly about. That’s where you know that even Gran Turismo 2 is infinitely better than that Forza crap.

    If I were you, considering that you don’t tinker, I’d rather stick to the arcade racers, like Forza, Need for Speed and Test Drive Unlimited.

    PS: Please don’t tell me that you never drive manual in these games…. because then I would have to strangle you through the internet.


  66. Eet

    November 16, 2010 at 12:43

    Guys, I just checked the whole mod thing out, we all know there are multiple versions of the same car in the game. Like a million skylines etc. There’s actually a Premium model of most cars in there, it’s just that you wont be able to mod every sighle civic in there, but one of them will be mod-able. Would you really mod 20 different R34 skylines? Or do you just grab the V-spec. It’s all sensible. Pre order my copy please


  67. Fox1

    November 16, 2010 at 12:47

    @bobby- You clearly haven’t heard of Novitec Rosso, Brabus, AMG and Top Secret. You should see a Top Secret Skyline in action against a Lambo live.

    Do you think F1 drivers are handed a super license because of driving tests?


  68. Nick de Bruyne

    November 16, 2010 at 12:52

    @Bobby “They’re trying too hard, Jeebers.” – Dude you seem to be the one trying the hardest in this thread, no doubt.

    Also, have you even played Forza? You seem to know very, very little about its customization and options.

    I loved Forza, great game and was well worth the purchase to have a racing sim to play for the last year. Now I’m pumped to play GT5 and will probably do so for quite some time now.

    Sure, there are big promises that aren’t being properly fulfilled, but lets be honest here… GT fans like myself were never going to NOT buy it. It doesnt matter if the game took your first born on arrival, it would still be one our must-have lists :biggrin:


  69. Parker

    November 16, 2010 at 12:55

    Got to agree with Nick here. Calling Forza arcade-y is ignorant really. It’s extremely physics and precision-based, and currently the best there is. GT5 will probably beat it, but Forza has definitely done enough to classify itself as a part sim. It finds the middle-ground perfectly, and that is decidedly harder to achieve that rest on one end of the scale.


  70. Ndibu

    November 16, 2010 at 12:57

    Ok lets just all agree on one thing here, 5 DECADE old RUF’s are NO substitute for the real thing. What about all the Porsches made since 2001? Those ancient RUFs don’t fully represent Porsche in this decade so lets stop pretending.
    “real driving simulator and not racing simulator”…lol are you kidding me?
    All this time I’ve been playing all these games wrongly, I didn’t realise that they meant it was the real driving miss daisy simulator
    Hey bobby, what do you call it when a group of cars are pitted against each other and the objective is to drive really fast and be the 1st person to cross the finish line?? What’s that? Racing? Really? Get out of town!

    If you’d stop being a Sony/Ps3/PD nut hugger for just one moment you’d realise that THIS, NOT THE WHOLE GAME, is a step backwards and is inexcusable for a game that has been in production for so many years.
    We aren’t denying that it is chocful of content, however it seems as though all that content is half baked, from the inflated car list that includes 40 variants of the same car and 800 non fully customizable cars, to a weather system that only applies to certain tracks and a track editor that is only a twists and turns editor.

    Lets leave Forza 3 out of this, yes it is the main reason most of us are up in arms because it has 500 different fully customizable cars and has set a standard that gt5 is not meeting in this respect.

    I thought the ps3 mantra was quantity =/= quality.


  71. BottomSmacker

    November 16, 2010 at 12:58

    Manual with clutch baby!
    G27 and GT5 *giggles excitedly*


  72. Bobby Kotick for Dummies

    November 16, 2010 at 13:07

    Yes, I have played Forza. Should I provide you with a screenshot of the game?


  73. Nick de Bruyne

    November 16, 2010 at 13:13

    I would kill to have F1 2010’s weather system in every driving game I play from now on. So damn good.


  74. Nick de Bruyne

    November 16, 2010 at 13:14

    Wait, scratch that…

    I would kill to have F1 2010’s weather system in every game I play from now on, driving or not.


  75. BottomSmacker

    November 16, 2010 at 13:17

    a) Not once have I even mentioned Forza in ANY of my posts

    b) I simply pointed out that this sentence ” noticing that not only do we not have a single Porsche in the game” was incorrect as we do have a host of some of the best Porsche’s ever made in tuned format by RUF.

    c) Was disappointed by the lack of a DB5, and wished there was less Skylines.

    d) Expected that track based weather would lead to more realistic weather effected environment than that which we have seen in present and past games where weather has simply meant a shiny wet surface which is just slippy all over, and instead expecting such things as “points on it which will have real effects like super slippy rumble strips on the apex and run-off, and maybe even waterflow crossing the tracks, and standing water (puddles?). Maybe even water build up off the racing line”.

    e) The hope and expectation of much more to come via updates.


  76. lans

    November 16, 2010 at 13:23

    its only a matter of time before my minions wake up! if you think i am annoying im actually a kitten compared to those gt 5 nuts . dont underestimate gt fanboys


  77. Nick de Bruyne

    November 16, 2010 at 13:27

    What gamers still don’t realise… is that you don’t complain to laugh at the people who are going to buy the game… you complain so that your collective voices are heard and taken into account by the developers and publishers.

    Competition also breeds innovation, so to be honest, I’m all for game comparisons as long as the facts are solid.


  78. Bobby Kotick for Dummies

    November 16, 2010 at 13:29

    I believe the phrase is.. GT5 gaan kak lekker wees.


  79. Milesh Bhana

    November 16, 2010 at 13:31

    Why bother getting an old console when i can just wait a week and grab a copy of GT5?

    All the stuff about the weather and copy+paste car list doesn’t interest me.

    What does interest me about GT5 is the scope, with racing, Nascar, WRC and kart races. That sounds pretty awesome. If they can do all of that right (with good on-line) then i’m sold!


  80. Bobby Kotick for Dummies

    November 16, 2010 at 13:31

    lol, there’s constructive criticism, and then we have the bunch of GT5 related posts that we’ve seen the last two weeks, where it’s clearly intended to bait Ians (for lulz?), by nitpicking inconsequential nonsense.


  81. SpeedHunter

    November 16, 2010 at 13:43

    Thanks for ponting out that last bit ” as long as the facts are solid”

    People are going on way to much about cars/tracks etc that are there or not.

    If we’re not running our own international gaming company with the likes of Sony or who ever else as partner/owner then we cant say anything about it. Licensing especially.

    No body knows what DLC content might be available. Wait and see. Maybe in a month or two a Aston Martin car pack or Porsche car pack will be available.

    Come on guys, dink ‘n bietjie verder as julle neuse!


  82. *Kazunori Yamuchcomplain

    November 16, 2010 at 13:52

    If you kids don’t stop fighting I’m going to turn this car around and go straight back to Delayville :pouty:


  83. Bobby Kotick for Dummies

    November 16, 2010 at 13:54

    Exactly, licensing is a beast on its own, who knows why EA* allowed Turn 10(basically Microsoft) to use the Porsche license and not Polyphony. Without concrete facts, we can’t say. (hint hint lazygamer)

    And who knows what is being held back for DLC? :whistle:

    *Presumably still the current holders of the license.


  84. Bobby Kotick for Dummies

    November 16, 2010 at 13:56


    Remember when they originally wanted to release a barebones GT5 (with a few cars) and the the bulk of the game would be dlc based. You might not be too far off about the car packs.


  85. Aussious

    November 16, 2010 at 14:00

    lol this is fun…


  86. Nick de Bruyne

    November 16, 2010 at 14:01

    Yeah well EA cant just go handing over the license to everyone, or it would be useless now wouldnt it, even if they got paid for it.

    Speaking of which, dear EA, if you are gonna keep that license, can one of you please make another Porsche Unleashed? K thx!


  87. Lans

    November 16, 2010 at 14:02

    People complaining about this game are people that have never bought a gt a game or are not particularly fond of racing games

    With any high profile game there’s always gonna be haters! Its funny that when good news comes out about gt, all the trolls dissapear, but as soon as you here something negative all the trolls pop up, ewie, steve, sploit,ndibu. But when gt was on fire with awesome news these users are nowhere to be found!



  88. lans

    November 16, 2010 at 14:05

  89. Syth

    November 16, 2010 at 14:19



  90. Bobby Kotick for Dummies

    November 16, 2010 at 14:22

    The easiest would have been for EA to sublease it to Turn 10, provided Microsoft gave them some concessions. #theorycraft


  91. Bobby Kotick for Dummies

    November 16, 2010 at 14:25

    What’s odd is that originally Gran Turismo (1 -4) was forced not to include car damage because some of the car manufacturers (Ferrari) objected. Fast forward a few years, and damage is an accepted part of racing games. :whistle:


  92. Bobby Kotick for Dummies

    November 16, 2010 at 14:27

    Best comment today!


  93. Nick de Bruyne

    November 16, 2010 at 14:33

    Yeah but that stuff still stands as you would have seen in the NFS games from back then.

    The cars are allowed damage, however the cars may not have damage done to them that in any way alters the chassis and a few other things. In other words, they dont mind seeing the car a little banged up, but they dont want people seeing their cars crunched like an aluminum can, as it could deter potential buyers.


  94. Ndibu

    November 16, 2010 at 14:48

    Bottom smacker, are you bobby? Nobody accused YOU of mentioning Forza.
    However that list DOES NOT feature Porsches, it may seem like a trivial thing to you but no self respecting car enthusiast would ever settle for a RUF instead of a Porsche.
    If this list had Porsches would anybody be complaining it didn’t have RUFs? No. Why? Because Porsche is the real thing, RUF is not the most awarded racing car brand, Porsche is.


  95. Atomic

    November 16, 2010 at 14:49

    On that – I am a highly disgruntled ex-Xbox “fanboy”, and was going to buy a PS3 JUST FOR THIS GAME, but the car lineup is pathetic.

    I am genuinely upset about this. I am trying my hardest to find a reason to buy this game as a true Racing simulator fan, but I cant see one.


  96. SpeedHunter

    November 16, 2010 at 14:50

    Nick, thanks again dude. What you just said above illustrates the point very well that there are many things behind closed doors that influences a game.

    Many people complained why is damaged not more severe etc. But what can you do when so many people, manufactures, stakeholders have a say in whats allowed or not. The same applies to everything else.


  97. SpeedHunter

    November 16, 2010 at 14:53

    Come now, you’re starting to sound like a recorder stuck on repeat, plus very deaf as well.

    How many time had it been mentioned that licensing is a huge issue and we have no idea how that part of business works. PD might have the cars already designed just waiting for licensing to be sorted etc.

    You’re just sounding like a spoiled child that didn’t get the toy he wanted.


  98. Atomic

    November 16, 2010 at 15:15

    Bottomsmacker: Please dont suggest you would rather have substitute tuned cars in the game than the real deal? – If so, Need for speed sounds like a better option where even Golf 5’s can take on Bugatti Veyrons.

    Maybe this will convince the die hard Ps3 fanboys that the car selection sucks: Italians and Germans make the best sports cars, and the most iconic Gran Tourers of all time. (Which is what this game is based on right?)Yet there seem to be more Nissans than all the German and Italian cars combined.

    Hardly gets me excited for this game, and it’s not worth it to buy a ps3 for this game as I have been intending doing… until now. 🙁


  99. Steve Hofmeyr

    November 16, 2010 at 15:27

    Mmm… I followed your link but it seems to be invalid. 🙁


  100. Ndibu

    November 16, 2010 at 15:28

    Dude stop getting so defensive. It’s a game not a baby that you birthed for Sony, ok, take a chill pill. All I was saying is don’t call it a Porsche if it ain’t a Porsche


  101. Steve Hofmeyr

    November 16, 2010 at 15:31

    With lans you can’t do both


  102. Steve Hofmeyr

    November 16, 2010 at 15:36

    lol, where is my mind.I meant with lans it’s ALWAYS both.

    Constructive what?!?!, you’re an xbot!!


  103. SpeedHunter

    November 16, 2010 at 15:48

    Sorry dude, this reverse psychology doesn’t work on me.

    All of a sudden sounding calm and collected and shifting blame while a couple of posts back you’re shouting and getting a fit at people like Bottom smackers. Yes, go look back and at all the capital letters…. Keep that chil pill

    Ek is rustig. Just not backing down from pointing out double talking here.


  104. Ndibu

    November 16, 2010 at 16:44

    Dude, it’s just a game man, capital letters are only for emphasis, calm down. Sony is great ok, PD is a god, PS3 is the 2nd coming…ok? We’re cool, we are alright, no need to get twitchy now. Look, I was just joking man, there’s no need for violence. Microsoft sucks, Forza is for girls…just don’t start with the death threats, I know how you PS3 fanboys do, look man I’m just gonna back out, just put the keyboard down and breathe…mmmm, oxygen, good…nerd rage, bad


  105. Fonzdaii

    November 16, 2010 at 16:46

    RUF is more than simply a “tuner”. In germany they are recognized as a full car manufacturer.
    Think of RUF like the AMG for Benz, or the M-Power for BMW…more than just a tuner!!


  106. Ndibu

    November 16, 2010 at 16:58

    I stand corrected you guys.
    RUF = Porsche
    Porsche = lame anyway
    1031 Cars = awesome even when there as no Saabs, no Reasonably Priced Cars to go with the Top Gear Track and more than 130 Nissans and 40 of the same car, Premium Priuses and Standard Bugattis and zero Koenigsegg’s
    Weather and Day cycles on only a few tracks = more than we deserve
    Customizing standard cars = an act reserved only for street racing hooligans and rif-raf
    Quantity > quality
    Forza 3 is a blight
    Sony is lord.
    *ok dude, I said it…just let the women go ok, leave them out of this…*


  107. SpeedHunter

    November 16, 2010 at 16:59

    hahaha,ag nee, ek los maar hierdie ene.


  108. Fox1

    November 16, 2010 at 17:05



  109. lans

    November 16, 2010 at 17:18

    Ndibu, i feel sorry for you.
    You don’t get GT5 now and you will never get it.
    I think this game is too confusing for you, just keep on playing forza dood.

    I need people who know how to drive in gt5!
    Clearly your a need for speed type of person, there no shame in that, if you want bleeding edge cars with awesome graphics i recommend you play need for speed hot pursuit, i think you will resonate with that type of game greatly :biggrin:


  110. Ndibu

    November 16, 2010 at 17:25

    gracias señor
    Me never forget this


  111. SpeedHunter

    November 16, 2010 at 17:45

    gracias, fue un placer absoluto :biggrin:


  112. Ndibu

    November 16, 2010 at 18:04

    No senor speed hunter, el placer fue mío


  113. lans

    November 16, 2010 at 18:11



  114. SpeedHunter

    November 16, 2010 at 18:12

    Insisto, era mía.


  115. lans

    November 16, 2010 at 18:20

    omelette du formage?


  116. lans

    November 16, 2010 at 18:20

    funghi formaggi!!!


  117. Aussious

    November 16, 2010 at 18:28

    Alright stop using Google translator you two we know you cant speak Spanish!


  118. lans

    November 16, 2010 at 18:44

    Yo puedo hablar español muy bien!


  119. lans

    November 16, 2010 at 18:44

    GT5 es el número uno


  120. lans

    November 16, 2010 at 18:44

    Forza chupa el grande


  121. Bobby Kotick for Dummies

    November 16, 2010 at 18:46

    How dare you call me an xbot? Sir, I am an xbro!


  122. Squinty500

    November 29, 2010 at 16:11

    *ahem* actually, RUF is NOT a Porsche, it’s built using the same parts as a Porsche, but is not, in all entireity, a Porsche. If you look on Forza Motorsport 3, you’ll find that there is a n actual place to buy the REAL Porsches and there’s more of them than just 5. 😉


  123. Squinty500

    November 29, 2010 at 16:14

    What category to these “Porsches” fit into by the way? Are they premium, or standard?

    Just asking out of interest.


  124. Squinty500

    November 29, 2010 at 17:00

    Sorry Bobby, but I have to completely disagree with you – it appears that you just have a general grudge against Forza.

    I am quite a big Gran Turismo fan, I have all the previous games for Playstation, however, when I chose a console, I decided to buy X-Box. The first game I bought with it was Forza (naturally, as I too am a petrolhead, so please, do us a favour and stop acting like you’re the only one in the whole wide world that enjoys racing games or “driving simulators”)

    After playing Gran Turismo since I was 15, I was a bit sceptical as to what I was buying with Forza – Alas, I was and still am, extremely happy with the game in general.

    The graphics are fantastic, the gameplay is fantastic and the “driving simulator” is fantastic, because believe it or not, each and every car, feels and handles just like they would in reality – enough grounds to call it a “simulator” too.

    So not only does the game go beyond MY expectations, they topped it off by adding the great Graphics and vinyl designs package – something that, as a Graphic designer, is a really cool function – so if I’m not in the mood just to race, I can sit for hours just playing around and making my cars look good.

    What exactly do you do on Gran Turismo if you don’t feel like racing anymore? Just asking… coz I refuse to put the controller down when I’m done racing.

    Quite honestly, I don’t see the BIG difference between Forza and GT5, apart from the fact that Forza has had no complaints. I would be lying if I said I wasn’t disapointed in all the bad reviews that GT5 has been getting, but the evidence is there. People need to stop being so biased. (from both sides)

    These are two great games and both offer a lot in very different ways to anyone interested in racing games. I still am a huge Gran Turismo fan, but I’m sorry, I won’t say that Forza is not Just as good as GT5.. if not better.


  125. Squinty500

    November 29, 2010 at 17:04

    Funny how Forza got the rights to use Porsche.


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