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MCU Phase 4 rumours: Marvel developing Black Knight, Thunderbolts trilogies

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Spider-Man: Far From Home hits cinemas in just over two months, officially bringing to a close Phase 3 of the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Due to the universe-rearranging narrative of Avengers: Endgame – and as we learned this week, Far From Home as well – Marvel has kept the details of Phase 4 tightly under wraps. We know about some sequels and a few other new projects in the pipeline like The Eternals and Shang-Chi, but other than that, it’s a big mystery. However, some new rumours may have finally shed some light on what’s to come.

Now I have to first start by talking about the source of these rumours. Back in December, a Twitter account belonging to a person calling themselves Roger Wardell popped up and started making some pretty outlandish claims about the then-upcoming Avengers: Endgame. Here’s the thing though: Nearly every single one of Wardell’s claims were spot on the money as we found out a few weeks ago. Clearly, whoever this person is, they have some kind of serious inside connection at Marvel. Wardell has made some more claims now, and based on their track record we’re paying attention.

First up, included in the Endgame tweets was the claim that Marvel is talking internally about introducing Black Knight into the MCU. This will not just be as a new team player on the Avengers, but also as the lead in a possible trilogy of solo films. The Black Knight has gone through many different looks and iterations since his debut in 1967, but in essence, he is Dane Whitman, one of the greatest swordsmen and fighters in the world, who wields an enchanted sword known as the Ebony Blade as well as several other magical armaments. In the comics, he’s been a member of various Avengers teams and has a big connection to Captain Britain – who is a character that Marvel has subtly been hinting at recently.

Outside of Black Knight, which other new properties could we see on the big screen? Well, how about a new property with a bunch of old faces? Old villainous faces, to be exact. According to Wardell, “Marvel still has big plans for Zemo, Ghost, Justin Hammer, General Ross, and the Abomination” as the villains Captain America: Civil War, Ant Man & The Wasp, Iron Man 2 and The Incredible Hulk respectively will be brought together for an adaptation of Thunderbolts.

In a nutshell, the modern incarnation of the Thunderbolts is Marvel’s version of DC’s Suicide Squad, as a team of villains are used by the government to do a bunch of dirty work (the original, and in my opinion better incarnation, followed a group of villains who pretended to be heroes). The dirty work, in this case, would be to take down The Leader, the villainous identity of Tim Blake Nelson’s Samuel Sterns, who we last saw in 2009’s The Incredible Hulk.

In one of the more recent incarnations of the team, the Thunderbolts were a group of heroes who have more lethal tendencies led by General Thaddeus “Thunderbolt” Ross, aka the Red Hulk (he was hulked up as part of a new super soldier program). William Hurt currently plays the character of Ross in the MCU, but without any powers. We do know that the Russo brothers flirted with the idea of introducing Red Hulk in Avengers: Infinity War though, so maybe Marvel plan to merge the two variations of the Thunderbolts into one: A team of villains led by a US Military sanctioned Red Hulk. Either way, according to Wardell, Marvel intends for Thunderbolts to become a trilogy as well.

Both of Black Knight and Thunderbolts are ideas that would slot right in with Marvel’s plans to not only diversify, but also introduce properties that can play with different genres. Black Knight could give us some high-fantasy antics while delving more into the multiverse aspects, while Thunderbolts can be a darker, military vibe. I’m definitely down for both to become additions to this new age of the MCU.

Last Updated: July 6, 2020


  1. They must not go full-DC on us here. Take it one step at a time man!


    • Kervyn Cloete

      May 13, 2019 at 12:49

      Well, that’s not and never has been Marvel’s strategy. Back in 2013 or 2014 they already said that Kevin Feige had planned out the beats of the MCU all the way to 2027 or something. They’ve always played the long game planning out multiple movies way in advance. The difference between them and DC is that Marvel always stuck to their gameplan whereas DC would constantly shift the goal posts based on audience feedback or box office results, and then would rush through whatever they attempted next.


  2. Se7en Sharon Needles

    May 13, 2019 at 11:52

    This phase of the MCU doesn’t interest me at all, I can’t say I care too much about the Eternals, Black Knight, Captain Britain or Shang Chi. They might as well have a Ms Marvel or Squirrel Girl movie for all I care because now we’re getting into C to F-list Marvel characters.


    • Kervyn Cloete

      May 13, 2019 at 12:48

      This is going to sound like I’m… geeksplaining, which is totally not the intention, but you do realize that Iron Man and Captain America were considered C-List (maybe B-list at a push) characters before the MCU, right? And outside of comics, most people had never heard of Ant-Man, Doctor Strange or Captain Marvel and Guardians of the Galaxy was a niche title even among comic readers.

      All Marvel’s biggest characters were owned by Sony, Fox and New Line when the MCU started so they had to make use of their lower tier properties for their movies. And they turned them into huge successes through good worldbuilding and storytelling. I don’t see why that will suddenly stop now.


      • Se7en Sharon Needles

        May 13, 2019 at 21:19

        Geeksplain away! I knew who Iron man, Thor, the Hulk and Captain America were before the movies. I knew the Avengers existed and while they weren’t as famous as the Xmen I even knew who Black Panther was from the cartoons I used to watch. You’re probably right about Guardians of the Galaxy, but these other characters are very obscure. Are we going to get a Marvels Hercules movie in phase 5, because Disney will want to squeeze the cinema rights dry?


      • EyeGodZA

        May 14, 2019 at 09:19

        Yeah, but the previous phase had RJD, the Chrises, ScarJo, etc., just being charming and super cool because they were.

        Now we’ve got Brie Larson – and soon, it looks like Tessa Thompson – virtue signaling and advocating for the sake of diversity and inclusivity like it’s going outta fashion, and Disney/Marvel backing them like it’s going outta fashion – see Captain Marvel moments in ENDGAME, as well as the all powerful, all female money shot and the belittlement of kid Spider-Man. And then, what they’ve done to Hulk over the last few movies is nothing short of criminal…

        We’ve seen the fandom turn on STAR WARS, and now they’re turning on GAME OF THRONES. I hope to god I’m wrong about the MCU, but the fans can be an unforgiving bunch, and these big corporations pandering to angry tweets from a Twitterati that makes up something like 10% of the twitter population is bad news.

        On the upside, casting news for THE ETERNALS sounds really positive (and Chloe Zhao is an amazing director, watch THE RIDER if you haven’t yet), SPIDER-MAN: FAR FROM HOME has got me super amped and ASGARDIANS OF THE GALAXY may just be the best idea ever conceived of.


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