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A year later, and the Xbox One and PS4 have yet to be cracked

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Video game piracy. It’s one of the oldest and ugliest parts of the industry that just never seems to go away. No matter how advanced the hardware and the software that runs it, you can bet that sooner or later such machines and games will be hacked, allowing the scurvier side of the industry to get away with blatant theft. But with the current generation of gaming, that has yet to happen.

It’s been close to a year since the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One was released.A year that has had zero cracks and hacks so far. Oh sure, there have been many claims so far that these consoles can be booted up with a pirate option. But none of them have panned out exactly. This is in stark contrast to the previous generation, that was quickly beset by pirates.

The Xbox 360 suffered from this problem with the notorious firmware flash, wherein the console disc-drive’s software was replaced and to make the platform run hastily-burnt dual-layer DVDs of illicit game ISO files. Later, a Jtag hack cracked it open even wider. The PlayStation 3 also had a system in place, with various fixes debuting to make that console capable of sailing the pirate seas.

But take a look at torrent websites, and try finding such files. Good bloody luck, because you won’t be downloading Sunset Overdrive or DriveClub overnight without going through an actual storefront to do so. Ripped games are essentially non-existent right now. And I dig that. I get that dropping several hundred bucks on a game only to be disappointed, sucks. It truly does. But at the same time, I don’t like hurting the industry.

We can debate this all day, but the truth is, piracy is a crime. Plain and simple, with morality not having a say in this. I don’t know for how long we’ll see the current crop of consoles remain buccaneer free, but I’m hoping that it’s a long time.

Last Updated: November 10, 2014

178 Comments

  1. “but I’m just demoing it!”

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    • Captain JJ the valiant

      November 10, 2014 at 15:09

      “It’s not stealing, because it’s still there.”

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  2. Captain JJ the valiant

    November 10, 2014 at 15:09

    Good for the consoles. The PC will forever be known as the crack platform. But in the case of Ubisoft whose new pc slogan seems to be: “Promoting Piracy”, I’m not surprised.

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    • Alien Emperor Trevor

      November 10, 2014 at 15:11

      mARRRRRRster race!

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      • Captain JJ the valiant

        November 10, 2014 at 15:13

        But seriously, with Steam, Humble Bundles and GOG these days there’s really no reason to pirate.

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        • CypherGate

          November 10, 2014 at 15:48

          And yet there are thousands who still pirates.

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          • refaamine

            January 7, 2015 at 11:27

            More of thousands and i am one of them and believe me i do it not for pleasure if i could i would rather buy original games just for multiplayer features but in my country and so many country we dont have a worldwide paying option and if we had one its not accesible for everyone aside from that games dont lunch on our coutries and if they did there are only crappy and old games and they cost twice what they cost on the us it means a game cost almost half the salary of a normal worker believe me i have a friend with a ps4 with only 3 games who he kept playing from the day of lunch till now and the 3 games are imported he wont be able to play any other game till next year when his father return to the country… Thats why we download pirated games if i had a choice i would rather buy than download if only steam exist in my country…

        • Skyblue

          November 10, 2014 at 15:48

          Very well said.

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        • ToshZA

          November 10, 2014 at 15:50

          And if they tune “But I want to see what it’s like first” – there’s a ton of sites as well as YouTube reviews and Lets Play vids to check out.

          Literally, no excuse. Thieves will be thieves.

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          • Captain JJ the valiant

            November 10, 2014 at 15:52

            I find those so handy, I don’t buy a game without consulting at least a few different ones. We’re fortunate enough these days to have all the info available to make an informed decision.

          • ToshZA

            November 10, 2014 at 15:54

            Exactly. I often add a game to my wishlist, then check out user reviews, youtube and website reviews, and then decide on whether or not to buy.

          • Captain JJ the valiant

            November 10, 2014 at 15:56

            Same here. And people like Angry Joe and those guys who are not affiliated with big corps like Metacritic give really honest reviews. So you know you can at least trust them when it comes to making a decision. I personally will never use a meta score to decide. Too many times they’ve given terrible titles good ratings that feel all too much like it’s not because of the game, but rather the publisher.

          • Ghost In The Rift

            November 10, 2014 at 16:00

            I like RadBrads reviews on youtube,dont like pewdiepie,dont know why,but brads good,thats where i go check before i buy a game.

          • Captain JJ the valiant

            November 10, 2014 at 16:04

            Don’t think I’ve heard of him before, will have to check it out.
            Not too fond of Pewdiepie myself either.

          • Pheonix182

            November 10, 2014 at 16:05

            pewdiepie sucks. Radbrad also good.

          • Chris L

            June 6, 2015 at 18:02

            I can see the appeal of Pewdiepie (I’ve watched a couple of his vids, just to see what the fuss was about), but he’s definitely not for me, as I imagine is the case for most people my age (born in the early 80’s). I don’t like his style of humor, that slapstick, ADHD-addled humor mixed with a bunch of screaming and a dash of over-the-top “surfer bro”. I’m guessing his demographic is 12 to 18, which is kinda odd, considering he’s closer in age to me than his demo. As for RadBrad, he was one of the 1st people I started watching when I decided to check out gaming vids, but after a while, I got sick of hearing his voice (even though he’s not close to as annoying as the pewdiepie-type gaming guys). Once I realized there were “No Commentary” channels, I never went back. MrRetroKid is probably the one I watch the most.

          • Pheonix182

            November 10, 2014 at 16:01

            Ah Angry Joe = EPIC reviews!

          • Pheonix182

            November 10, 2014 at 16:00

            its not the same. yea cool watch a Let’s play, it;s just not the same.

          • ToshZA

            November 10, 2014 at 16:02

            Yeah, you’re right. The experience is worth paying for. So start paying people for their work. I assume you don’t work for 3 years for free? Yeah, neither should the game devs.

          • Ryanza

            November 10, 2014 at 16:16

            The piracy scene is based on a very simple concept. Borrowing and lending. I lend a book, movie, music cd, video game, to a friend or whoever, is that person now a thief.

            Digital form of lending and borrowing is now labeled piracy. I like to view the piracy scene as a digital library.

            A movie or video game is not stolen before uploaded to one of the torrent sites. The media is bought and paid for and then uploaded. Then people can borrow. Based on a very simple concept.

            The only time piracy becomes bad is when people start selling pirated copies on the streets or where ever.

          • Monster_munch

            March 26, 2015 at 08:38

            Yes they are a thief. If you lent the game to someone by giving them the original disc then no it is legitamite but if you copy the disc then it is piracy as now you have 2 instances of the product. An analogy is if you lend a book to someone that’s fine but if you photocopy the book that is piracy as you again have 2 instances of the book.

          • Erik Sørensen

            July 18, 2015 at 22:22

            I agree with this: “The only time piracy becomes bad is when people start selling pirated copies”. That is not the intention with cracked games. Warez groups are doing it for fun and some kind of protest. Games cost a lot of money. And Warez group crack games so everybody can enjoy playing games. And I haven’t seen any game developer being ruined by piracy, yet. They are just doing fine. And by the way. The warez groups don’t do it for money and always say this: “If you like the game, buy it and support the software companies so they can continue to make good games”.

          • Nexus456

            November 29, 2014 at 14:53

            Look at Witcher 3’s, CDV. They aren’t gonna use DRM. They kindly asking for supports. They are providing quality for the price and not putting harmful DRM like Denuvo. Which i hear puts lots of pressure on your hardware. But even after all these if people steals, then they are the worst. i think most people wouldn’t go for steal. But if you are talking about kids, they will steal. Because their parents wouldn’t give them money for every games

        • Ryanza

          November 10, 2014 at 15:51

          If you don’t have money. If you don’t have a credit card. If you don’t have access to the internet. If you don’t have access to the game in retail. If you don’t have, if you don’t have, if you don’t have. Usually reasons why people pirate.

          And let’s not forget, try before buy.

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          • ToshZA

            November 10, 2014 at 15:55

            So basically, all pirates are spoiled brats who need a swift PK to put their head straight. 😀

          • Ryanza

            November 10, 2014 at 15:57

            Only to you.

          • Frost

            November 11, 2014 at 08:33

            Ryanza, this would make sense if only one person can then play it at a time. If I lend you a book, I can’t continue reading it. I have to wait for you to finish it first and return it back to me.

            With your theory only one person needs to buy the game and then just “lend” it to the whole world via torrents. It costs more than R700 to produce a game…

          • Ryanza

            November 11, 2014 at 13:43

            simple concept turned digital. Share it with the world.

            Piracy doesn’t = lose in sales. In most cases piracy = increase in sales. So don’t use the argument of piracy = lose of sales. It’s just not true. Don’t believe what the industry tells you. If it comes out of the industry then you should know that it’s bullshit. Most of what I hear and read from people is industry fed.
            Follow the numbers.

          • Frost

            November 11, 2014 at 13:57

            Nowhere did I say piracy = loss in sales. I took your definition of borrowing and lending at took it to the extreme to show you it’s silly. You said nothing to counter my actual argument. Argue the point, don’t pretend like I said something I didn’t.

            As for the loss in sale; if you didn’t pirate, but didn’t buy the game, what would you have done with that 40 hours of spare time? Chances are you would’ve gone out or do something else that costs money. Not spending that money can then be seen as doing damage to the economy. I’m still structuring this theory for myself in my head, so I’m willing to be wrong here.

          • Ryanza

            November 11, 2014 at 14:23

            I said simple concept turned digital. share with one person to share with many.

            Don’t view certain types of people and try to explain all through those people. When it comes to piracy we only care about consumers. People who buy stuff. People who don’t buy stuff and pirate, no1 cares. Take the piracy away and people who don’t buy stuff will still not buy stuff.
            But consumers who pirate. Do they buy stuff because of pirated stuff. Yes. And those numbers are high.
            Take the piracy away from consumers and what happens. They buy less and less often.

            We are born and bred to be consumers. Consumers only buy what they know. Piracy is a form of no lies advertising. Take piracy away and the big industries will have all the power. We will be blind sheep, them telling us, this is good buy it.

            I don’t think people just goes out and buys things they might like just to find out if they liked it. Family and friends is what forms a base line for how we buy as consumers. From there it’s the free stuff that gets us to try something new, which could lead to new consumer patterns. Free samples in the store. Free cup of tea or coffee offered at some1’s house. being lent a product. Demo’s. Piracy.

          • Seb

            January 21, 2015 at 14:17

            I’ve been in software development for the past 4 and a bit years, and the employment in the industry is fluctuating, like a kid in McDonald’s stomach – it’ll go up, then eventually go down… I totally understand what you mean when you say piracy is part of the industry, and I kind of get what you mean when you say selling pirated copies in Hong Kong for $10 – $20 is worse. And you’re right! It’s way worse…

            But anti-pirating focus – in regards to consoles especially – has increased their popularity among developers, with the creation of these programs/protocols/server-side systems etc. the developing companies are HAPPIER to develop on console, rather than PC, and may even generate more revenue from marketing strategies, through consoles painted with the game logos and controllers branded “Starcraft” and all this shit… But either way, many fellow software developers I know have pursued PC platforms, and avoided companies like Sony, EA, Ubisoft (other reasons) just because they can’t seem to reach out to the pirates of PCs, so to speak.
            Individual developers that strike lucky can have their own anti-pirating measures and still be successful, it’s really a matter of popularity and stability (in regards to successfully pirated copies)… cheers

    • Brady miaau

      November 10, 2014 at 15:22

      Assassins Creed Black Flag?

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      • Captain JJ the valiant

        November 10, 2014 at 15:24

        Haha. Coincidence? I think not!

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    • Nexus456

      November 29, 2014 at 14:44

      It’s really sad. Because it’s the best all-in-one gaming platform. And whats more you can buy games at cheap price from steam.

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    • Nosteam= free PC games

      January 10, 2015 at 02:09

      Go here all Nosteam’s PC games are free (just have to wait on slow downloads) I used to be the admin for this site and never had a single issue with any of his releases http://www.nosteam.ro/

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  3. JS

    November 10, 2014 at 15:15

    I dont think piracy is 100% bad. All those games i copied as a kid with no money has been made back exponentially as a working adult.

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    • sQueezedhe

      November 10, 2014 at 16:54

      So the shop around the corner going out of business because people keep stealing from it is just dandy because you spend your money elsewhere… what?

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      • JS

        November 10, 2014 at 18:45

        Uhm no buddy. Read my sentence again. I had no money. Now I have. Which I spend at games shops.

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      • jalaxygason

        December 10, 2014 at 19:33

        They aren’t stealing from the store you knob. If they are downloading the games, those are sales the store never would have gotten in the first place.

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  4. ryanza

    November 10, 2014 at 15:25

  5. Pheonix182

    November 10, 2014 at 15:29

    my ps3 is chipped. coz i cant poop out R800 everymonth to buy a new game. wat i do is.
    1: Go to your video store
    2: pay R40 to rent the ps3 game you want
    3: copy the game on your system.

    or if you have good internet download ps3 torrents, not all of them are that big.

    am sure there are some people out there that would agree with me.
    sure one day when i have all the money in the world i would buy every month a game.

    side note: i do buy some orginal ps3 games if the price is right lol.

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    • Ghost In The Rift

      November 10, 2014 at 15:33

      its still not cool,and captain jack sparrow agrees with me!!

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    • Xcalibersa

      November 10, 2014 at 15:37

      Sorry where do you park your car?

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      • Pheonix182

        November 10, 2014 at 15:42

        next to yours

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      • Ryanza

        November 10, 2014 at 15:46

        Not the same thing.

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    • Ryanza

      November 10, 2014 at 15:46

      Don’t promote piracy cheapness.

      If you can’t buy games new when they launch then wait till the price goes down.

      If you have to play it at launch then sell off your old game or trade them in.

      Buy game for R800 play it finished, should take about 4 hours now a days, then sell for R600. Game cost R200 and you got some money back.

      There are options. And the last option, buy second-hand.

      But you can do whatever you want. If the piracy option is your route then that’s your choice. Just don’t promote the bad side to piracy so publicly. we don’t want people to think that all pirates, pirate for your reasons.

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      • Dawid Eduard Roestorf

        November 11, 2014 at 08:52

        You guys sounds like dope dealers. I just sell the dope, I don’t use it. That means I am not bad, the people using it are bad.

        Grow up. Piracy is wrong, plain and simple. There is no way you can spin it to be legal, and never will. It is a way for people to get their fix without paying for it.

        I am just going to borrow that BMW from the dealer without paying, then arrested for stealing. Wish the internet actually had cops who could read these statements, track you down and arrest you.

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        • Ryanza

          November 11, 2014 at 13:58

          So you replied to me after what I replied to that guy.

          Piracy is not theft. Stealing a car is theft. Using your car example. This is the piracy process.
          You buy a BMW. Then you let every1 have a joy ride in your BMW. Some will like the BMW and will go buy one themselves. Some will not like it and will not buy it. Some would never have driven a BMW in their lives.
          That’s the common piracy process.

          The bad part to piracy is when you take the BMW and make more BMW copies and then sell those BMW’s.

          There is good and bad in everything. The good in piracy outweighs the bad.

          All that I know is that if you cut out piracy to zero. You will see less sales, less content in countries around the world, more expensive content, you will have people less aware of content, ect.
          Don’t think that content is available all over the world in every language and that people should just buy it, even if they don’t know what it is they buying. It doesn’t work like that. Don’t view people as money like the big corps do.

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          • Dawid Eduard Roestorf

            November 11, 2014 at 14:25

            Let me ask you a question.

            You just made a brand new comic book.
            One person buys it, makes copies of it and gives it to all his friends, and their friends etc. in the end you only sell 10 copies, but 1000 people read the book.

            Would you consider it legal for them to have made copies?

          • Ryanza

            November 11, 2014 at 14:37

            If I made a comic book and it’s really good. I would put at a digital version on the pirate scenes and buy cheap ads for the pirate scenes or where ever people get their free comics from. And try to include in the comic where all to buy and please support by buying it, if you like it.

            Trust me more than 10 copies would be sold. It is more important to get the comic out there in as many hands as possible. You should get sales from that and the next comic should see an increase of awareness and an intake of sales.

          • RinceThis

            November 11, 2014 at 14:45

            What utter nonsense. I love reading your comments man, good for a laugh at a very limited understanding of how economics work. Keep on!

          • Ryanza

            November 11, 2014 at 14:47

            I never go too deep with info on anything. And I never try to be serious. Just different view points. I leave the serious shit to others.

          • Dawid Eduard Roestorf

            November 11, 2014 at 14:47

            But I did not ask you what you would have done, I asked you if what they did was legal or not?

          • Ryanza

            November 11, 2014 at 14:55

            If I made a comic book and I find out that it’s being pirated a shit load. I wouldn’t view legal or illegal. I would think that the comic might be good and resonating with people. Then options are made possible, like see where to place ads and see how well it sells digital and see if I can get it into retail.

            But if you create a comic for the soul purpose of money. Well then ….

          • Dawid Eduard Roestorf

            November 11, 2014 at 15:01

            Again avoiding to answer the question. Regardless of what you feel or would have done or intentions were. The question is.
            Is what they did legal?

          • Ryanza

            November 11, 2014 at 15:09

            Yes. If one person buys my comic, then yes. It all depends on how you want your copyright handled. I would not lose my copyright in your example.

            If you restrict the shit out of your comic book like with DRM and lawyers then ….

          • Dawid Eduard Roestorf

            November 11, 2014 at 15:14

            And that exactly there is why pirating games is illegal.

            It does not matter what your view is, it is what the law states. And according to the law, you are committing a crime if you pirate.

            No matter what the media is, or your intentions. If you want to lend a friend a game, give him the original, but making a copy of it is when it becomes illegal.

          • Ryanza

            November 11, 2014 at 15:34

            Making a copy is not illegal. and lending to a friend is illegal, original or not. It’s in the fine print. Can’t lend or borrow or play in public. That’s why Let’s play videos on Youtube is illegal but developers says they ok with it. Well some of them.

            It is illegal to do nearly anything with a product. So piracy is bad because it’s illegal but it’s also illegal to lend and borrow. You don’t value the effects of piracy, the study results on piracy, fight for a change in laws so that you can lend shit to a friend and it not being illegal.

            But it’s illegal and I ignore all results and effects. I am a sheep and I will follow the laws and do as I am told by lawyers and governments and big corporations only focused on money. I am not a person who can think and act for myself. I accept the world as it is and never hope nor dream about change. I am a slave. I am an alien. A legal alien. I don’t share with humans.

          • Dawid Eduard Roestorf

            November 11, 2014 at 15:46

            You are choosing an illegal route for change, and expect somebody to listen.

            The world has changed. There are legal ways of fighting an unjust law. But for that you need people to start taking a legal route to fig the change.

            Instead of being the problem without any legal backing, become the problem with legal backing and affect change.

            I do not say live like a sheep, I am saying obey the laws, and where you do not agree, fight it the legal way.

          • Ryanza

            November 11, 2014 at 15:51

            I am? Now it’s become a me thing. If you look back at what I replied to that guy you will see that I told him to buy the games.

            Fuck it now you just turned it into a finger pointing thing.

            Piracy is illegal and now I can’t drive over 60kph.

          • Dawid Eduard Roestorf

            November 11, 2014 at 15:59

            Ok, that was my mistake. I did not mean you as in you personally. Should probably have stated it as in “nobody is going to listen to an illegal route being taken for change”

            Did not want to attack you in person in any way, and truly apologize if you see it that way.

          • Ryanza

            November 11, 2014 at 16:13

            This is the route we all are on. I will use EA as an example. Because of our complacency DRM has been accepted in the PC market. Let’s not forget gamersgate. Look at the contract and how Shadow of Mordor got promoted. People just keep on buying because there is no other options.

            So how does the future look like. EA makes a game. EA controls the information to chosen media sites. Media sites are then paid to tell you how great that product is and tells you to buy that product. That product will have DRM. You will not be able to lend or borrow that product to a friend or family member. No piracy. No retail. Digital only. Online only games. You buy the game and feel disappointed and now you can not sell that product. Comments will be censored from negative people. Only good things will ever be visible to see.

            That is your future. That is the future. Follow the laws and keep on buying and sooner than later the future catches up with you. DRM hell. Censorship hell.

          • Dawid Eduard Roestorf

            November 11, 2014 at 16:23

            Ah, and we get to GG, and that is where I stop. As whenever GG comes up it does become personal and have no intention of getting involved with anything relating to GG

          • BillBo

            January 25, 2015 at 09:12

            I’m not aware of any non-MMO that doesn’t allow you to do whatever you want with your original copy (be that to lend it to a friend or even re-sell it).

            Your “hell,” doesn’t exist and I see no reason to believe it ever would. EA sure as hell isn’t worried about the secondary market. or the lending/borrowing of games. Want proof? The existence of rental stores and big name game store companies (both brick and mortar/online) that buy your used copies then re-sell them; if they were going to clamp down on this it would be the FIRST place they’d look towards, not trying to crack down on you giving your game to your friend or something. Or look at what Microsoft did with the XBone; you can even lend/gift DIGITAL copies of your games to friends through their digital marketplace. I even love what they did with the XBone catalogue system, if you have the game you can log in with your account info on another XBone, download the game and play it on another system at someone else’s house. Same with Steam, you can gift/lend games to friends or use your info to play games on any PC.

            It seems to me like you’re arguing against a problem that doesn’t even exist and never will.

            DRM has caused some issues for gamers but what industry is without it’s problems? I don’t see the existence of maybe 1 serious DRM issue every two years or so as the proof necessary to say companies should stop trying to protect their products. In reality it’s just not an issue 99% of the time for gamers.

          • Ryanza

            November 11, 2014 at 16:02

            If the black people of this country followed the laws and rules of this country. Guess what, still apartheid.

            What happened to all the illegal shit. The truth and reconciliation.

          • Dawid Eduard Roestorf

            November 11, 2014 at 16:08

            I personally do not believe that. Looking at the economy and how the sanctions were affecting the country, even without all the illegal actions taken by the majority, our country would have had to scrap apartheid laws before 2000.

          • Dawid Eduard Roestorf

            November 11, 2014 at 16:10

            Besides, the then government also partook in illegal actions. Disobeying their own laws

          • Zubayed

            March 2, 2015 at 12:29

            Since you guys are crying for piracy, why don’t you put an effort to sell games on localization based. I live in a 3rd world country. And yes we do play video games, Do you know how much it cost for us to get a 60$ game? People get $60 salary working 24/7. All those things you said about legal or illegal may sound nice but mockery to most of the people living in 3rd world. They will keep cracking, They won’t buy anything. Unless you come to understand how does global economy works. How will people of this or that country will buy a game.

          • LongJohns454

            December 15, 2014 at 15:52

            …but lets say you write a really good comic book, but let also say you have staff and a store front/office to pay for (like many publishers) – or just forget all that since you are working out of your mommies basement you still need a printer that printed say 100 thousand books for you. You sell only 1000 books (10 million people download and read it – assume no extra income from this method as there is NO guarantee that people will buy it even if they do like it) – seems to me that you are losing money and would not be in business to long. You can NOT count on people to buy it if they like it after reading it – that is a poor business model. :p

        • Jcr85

          December 17, 2014 at 21:53

          Oh for crying out loud… piracy is wrong? Like what, morally? Are you f****** serious? You’re really arguing that my depriving some multibillion $ corporation or other of 60 dollars of profit is morally wrong? If so, it’s you who needs to grow up.

          And by the way, no one is trying to “spin it to be legal”, we just don’t give a s***. And why would we? It’s just basic logic, why pay a large sum of money for something that you can very easily get for free with virtually no risk involved?

          You know, I’m really quite astounded that there are actually people out there who think like you do. I’m sure if some corporation started charging for the air people breathe, you would rush to pay them your money, because not doing so would be “wrong”… what a joke.

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          • BillBo

            January 25, 2015 at 08:56

            The problem is that if everyone thought like you did, no games would ever be made. Or there’d just be shitty, free flash games. Top video games take hundreds of millions of $ to produce these days, it’s not some guy in his basement making a game but investors putting huge amount of money on the line to employ hundreds of people for years to develop big titles, before getting anything in return.

            I’m guessing you don’t make much money and are an unskilled worker, probably with little education. Either that or you’re a kid.

          • Jcr85

            January 29, 2015 at 20:51

            Well, yeah, I suppose I should be grateful that there’s a bunch of dimwitted losers out there who are more than willing to finance the multibillion dollar margins of corporations like EA with their hard-earned money.

            As for your sad attempt to put me down, I’m afraid I have to disappoint you. I’m actually pretty well off – partly because I’ve got a better understanding than most of how the world works, and don’t throw my money around unless I have to. But you can believe what you want, buddy.

          • BillBo

            February 9, 2015 at 16:41

            So what is it you do that makes you “pretty well off.” that doesn’t involve people giving you or the company you work for, money for some product or service?

          • Feniks

            March 11, 2015 at 18:48

            Old thread but: thank you.
            Effing moral fags.
            And do you think people crying about piracy buy fair-trade coffee or clothes made without child labour?

    • Hammersteyn

      November 10, 2014 at 15:52

      I don’t always downvote a lot but when I do….

      Reply

      • Pheonix182

        November 10, 2014 at 15:54

        haters gona hate.

        Reply

        • Hammersteyn

          November 10, 2014 at 15:54

          Yes, I hate pirates

          Reply

          • Pheonix182

            November 10, 2014 at 15:55

            cry me a river

          • Hammersteyn

            November 10, 2014 at 15:57

            Only if you cant swim.

          • Pheonix182

            November 10, 2014 at 15:58

            yea got lessons from your mom(Booom)

          • Ghost In The Rift

            November 10, 2014 at 16:03

            Never ever,never ever ever,never………”Booom” youself 😐

          • ToshZA

            November 10, 2014 at 16:04

            That’s the only “boom” he’s ever going to get. 😐

          • Ghost In The Rift

            November 10, 2014 at 16:06

            You dear Sir,are correct!!!

          • Pheonix182

            November 10, 2014 at 16:06

            aww you are hurting my feelings, pffffffft hahahaha so funny guys. GO Tosh urself

          • Ghost In The Rift

            November 10, 2014 at 16:08

            Did you pirate your comebacks to????:-|

          • ToshZA

            November 10, 2014 at 16:10

          • Pheonix182

            November 10, 2014 at 16:11

            jy is an die brand tosh. gaan se vir jo mama hoe slim jy was vindag. jy wen n pakkie anmaak water.haha

          • Pheonix182

            November 10, 2014 at 16:10

            ahh you think you are goodie 2 shoe hey. u wana tell me u never downloaded a mp3, album or movies?

          • ToshZA

            November 10, 2014 at 16:11

            Yeah no matter who steals what, doesn’t justify doing more of it.

            Pirates’ logic: “You kill ants right? So it’s cool if I kill your family.”

          • Ghost In The Rift

            November 10, 2014 at 16:12

            LOL!!

          • Pheonix182

            November 10, 2014 at 16:14

            oh and you dont kill anything?

          • HvR

            November 10, 2014 at 16:14

            BOOOOOOOM!!!!

          • Hammersteyn

            November 10, 2014 at 16:09

            Yeah sorry, your momma jokes is where I draw the line. Also someone else needs to say BOOM I mean you might as well just upvote your own comments

          • Pheonix182

            November 10, 2014 at 16:12

            ah dam Hammersteyn cant handle a momma joke. thought so.

          • Hammersteyn

            November 10, 2014 at 16:31

            I love my momma, you done hurt my feelings now.

          • Ryanza

            November 10, 2014 at 16:05

          • Hammersteyn

            November 10, 2014 at 16:08

            O_o what’s this?

          • Ryanza

            November 10, 2014 at 16:21

            Did you never watch Pure Monate Show.

          • Hammersteyn

            November 10, 2014 at 16:30

            Nope.

          • Ozzy

            November 14, 2014 at 17:29

            Please see earlier comments… 😀

          • Ozzy

            November 14, 2014 at 17:28

            Dude… Can I upvote this multiple times? I thought PMS was lost in the ether… thank you internet.
            This post has nothing to do with the argument… I just like the shit outta The Pure Monate Show.

          • Ryanza

            November 14, 2014 at 18:18

            About time that someone knows and remembers The Pure Monate Show. Pure Gold and made me laugh so much. It was really good and so silly. Loved it.

      • Ghost In The Rift

        November 10, 2014 at 15:55

        you know you wanna click that down arrow,can you hear them wispers???do it!!!

        Reply

    • Double-O-Six and a half

      November 10, 2014 at 16:17

      So why stop with games? If your motivation to steal is because quote “I can’t poop out R800 everymonth to buy a new game.” endquote (or otherwise known as “you want it, you’re entitled and you can’t wait to afford it like the rest of us normal folks do”) Why not go rob a convenience store, or a bank, or a little old lady who’s pension money barely allows her to live on cat food for the month???

      Is it because you assume piracy is a victimless crime?

      Ever stop to think that maybe a game costs R800 because it gets pirated all the time and the developers have to keep upping their prices to make the money to pay those teams of artists, writers, coders, testers, marketeers etc. who make the games or entertainment we all know and love…?

      See the problem with justifying criminal behaviour is that it’s like playing Russian roulette with a pistol… You just know that every time you open your mouth or pull the trigger the shits going to spew forth…!

      Reply

    • Ibrahim Chhaya

      November 10, 2014 at 17:13

      lol stop trying to justify stealing.

      Reply

  6. Ghost In The Rift

    November 10, 2014 at 15:30

    So people still pirate games that are like 50gigz on a torrent???

    Reply

    • Pheonix182

      November 10, 2014 at 15:34

      let me guess you have all the money in the world to buy every month a new game?

      and yes they do. go have a look on piratebay if you dare lol

      Reply

      • Xcalibersa

        November 10, 2014 at 15:37

        Some of us have jobs and are not tossers

        Reply

        • Captain JJ the valiant

          November 10, 2014 at 15:37

          I just have the patience to wait until I can afford the games I want. It’s simple enough.

          Reply

          • Pheonix182

            November 10, 2014 at 15:38

            yea fair point there Captain. but still.

        • Pheonix182

          November 10, 2014 at 15:38

          takes a tosser to knw 1. yea i do have a job

          Reply

          • Xcalibersa

            November 10, 2014 at 15:38

            And what job is that? And which company. Or are you too scared to tell?

          • Pheonix182

            November 10, 2014 at 15:39

            am a C programer. you dont have security clearence so cant really tell you

          • Xcalibersa

            November 10, 2014 at 15:41

            Done.

          • Pheonix182

            November 10, 2014 at 15:41

            goood

          • Brady miaau

            November 10, 2014 at 15:56

            Yeeeeeeees. That makes sense.

            Why am I even replying?

          • Pheonix182

            November 10, 2014 at 15:58

            wow so sarcastic boe hoe hoe.

            You guys never do anything worng

          • Brady miaau

            November 10, 2014 at 19:00

            I just have no answer for this, nothing at all.

            but I do feel like replying. I am nearing 40, have a pretty good job (your line of work) and make a living that leaves us mostly comfortable. Some people in my position would buy a new car or somesuch, but I still drive my 1997 model car, so no car payment. not that this is always the case, but let us assume the money I save from not having any car payments I can use for entertainment. In this way I choose where to spend my money and where not to. I realise that I will get another sarcastic comment, an “of course”: duh. But I have now read all your comments and I am not sure you get what other people are saying. We are prepared to wait for the new games, till such time as they are affordable. Yes, its hard sometimes. Yes, it can be a huge pain to read and hear others playing it, but such is the life: we must wait.

            Why should you not have to wait? What makes you different?

            Note I am not fighting or calling you names, I am really asking.

          • Pheonix182

            November 11, 2014 at 07:50

            Brady. am not different from anyone. you have a good point. taking a new car monthly installment and spending it on whatever games etc. yea reading from other people how awsome a game is etc is a huge pain if you cant play it. mostly i download a game , test it, if its really good il go and buy it. but can you imagin if you went to BT games and bought The Walking Dead game(the FPS) for lets say it was R600, got home played it for 5min and realised it is a piece shit game, that has happend to me. so that s why i do it, not gona shoot myself in the foot again.

          • William Francis

            November 11, 2014 at 15:17

            Reviews? Youtube? Research? I wont buy a BMW mainly because the resale on them are garbage, even though I really really love the car. Research makes a difference mate, could mean the difference between riches and destitution. I am a C# Web Developer, have house and car repayments, but I can still manage to go out most weekends for a beer, and buy a game or 2 a month even at R800-900 a game.

          • HvR

            November 10, 2014 at 16:16

            LOL

          • Skyblue

            November 10, 2014 at 15:47

            I hope it’s not as a proof reader ;-p

        • Jcr85

          December 17, 2014 at 22:01

          You may have a job, but I bet you’re still a poor tosser, seeing as how you are so willing to waste your hard earned money on stuff that you very easily can get for free.

          Reply

      • Ghost In The Rift

        November 10, 2014 at 15:39

        no i dont,i choose what game intrigues me the most and save for the rest,or i eat 2min noodles for the rest of the month:-P

        Reply

        • Pheonix182

          November 10, 2014 at 15:41

          hahah funny. get your point. look dnt get the wrong idea. i like my orginal games. am a collector, but jeez dit u see the price on the new borderlands for ps3 ? damm

          Reply

          • Ghost In The Rift

            November 10, 2014 at 15:44

            Well you did choose one of the most expensive hobby’s in the world,like dating a chick with herpes,you know what you getting your self into,BUT YOU STILL DO IT!!and then you end up explaining to the pharmacist what happened and………im gona shut up now:-P

          • Pheonix182

            November 10, 2014 at 15:46

            hahah Ghost. funny. true

          • Brady miaau

            November 10, 2014 at 15:58

            So wait for a year, like I did on the previous borderlands

    • Jcr85

      December 17, 2014 at 21:58

      Dunno bout you, but I got a 100mbit down speed on my connection. The 50 gig torrents are done in just over an hour…

      Reply

  7. JHN

    November 10, 2014 at 15:35

    Pretty glad to read this, game piracy really pisses me off if you consider how hard developers work to bring you a game.

    Reply

    • ToshZA

      November 10, 2014 at 15:47

      I very much share your opinion. 🙂

      Reply

  8. Skyblue

    November 10, 2014 at 15:46

    Piracy has actually become a bit of a moot point if you ask me. Most modern titles are essentially crippled if they are not original and connected to the internet for all the extra content and interactivity.
    The “glory” days of gaming piracy are over, because I say so.

    Reply

    • Ghost In The Rift

      November 10, 2014 at 15:49

      yeah alot of backwards security in games these days.

      Reply

      • Skyblue

        November 10, 2014 at 15:54

        Exactly why I’ve been drifting towards GOG for my games even though I have a Steam library that is just plain wrong.

        Reply

  9. Nikola

    November 10, 2014 at 15:52

    Look I can’t say I never have downloaded a pirated game but I have stopped since moving onto consoles and have not done it again neither do I plan to, I will rather support the industry I love then go back to that path even if it means that I have to wait 2 or 3 months to play a certain game!!

    Reply

  10. Ghost In The Rift

    November 10, 2014 at 15:53

    This is why i started saving now for DA:I and The Witcher 3:-D

    Reply

    • Ceyber, Hans

      November 10, 2014 at 18:57

      When I started hearing concrete news about DA:I and W3, I stopped using my house phone for unnecessary calls. That was two months ago and already got enough for at least one. Budgeting is synonymous with surviving these days…

      Reply

  11. konfab aka derp

    November 10, 2014 at 16:05

    The only games I pirate are old ones that barely run on modern computers. Otherwise I like buying games, especially if they give me my money’s worth.
    Which is why we need excellent game reviews.
    Which is why I lurk here.

    Reply

    • Captain JJ the valiant

      November 10, 2014 at 16:08

      No one really lurks like Geoff though. It’s a talent. ;P

      Reply

  12. James Blacksmith

    November 10, 2014 at 16:12

    There is no difference between recording a song off the radio, downloading a cracked game, or downloading the latest episode of a series like ‘game of thrones’.

    The gaming industry should realise that if may just need to cut down on its R600/game price-tag if it want’s to stay in business.

    I recall paying R400 for Age of Empires II (back in the day) only for the DVD to get scratched and stop working. Did they send me a replacement? No, tough luck.

    The harsh reality is that there will always be those students or less well off folk that have a choice:

    1. Do not buy the game because it is too expensive > game can’t be ripped > do nothing.
    2. Do not buy the game because it is too expensive > game can be ripped > rip it.

    3. Buy the game.

    In reality the folk that choose #2 actually do not hurt the gaming industry at all. We can similarly argue that folk that play a game, then lend/resell it is equally hurting the industry. Before games could be ripped, that’s exactly what we use to do, lend out games.

    Here’s what happens with Bioshock. Game is too expensive, I don’t buy it. I wait until a year later when game is about 25% of its original asking price. Now I buy it. Would I have paid R300 for it when it was originally released? Sure. But seeing as I had to wait 3/4 months for the price to come down, I don’t really care anymore, I’d happily wait another year.

    Reply

    • Captain JJ the valiant

      November 10, 2014 at 16:15

      The blacksmiths are always the ones who say the wise things.

      Reply

  13. Tulipdame

    November 10, 2014 at 16:17

    I just bought a 55″ LED 3D Smart tv to go with the xbox one, and it looks pretty sweet, eh. But I am broke now. Awaiting Far Cry 4 now. Luckily preordered the Kyrat edition about three months ago, so it’s paid already

    Reply

    • Double-O-Six and a half

      November 10, 2014 at 16:20

      you’re in for a treat… got myself a 70″ 3D OLED a while back… colours brighter, makes an amazing difference… Now when I look at my old 46″ LCD I think how dull the colours are and how slow the refresh rate is…

      Reply

      • Tulipdame

        November 10, 2014 at 17:38

        Unfortunately I couldn’t afford that size…we are now going to wait a few years, then I want a 65″ ultra hd led 3d smart tv. If I may ask, how much did you fork out on the 70″?

        Reply

  14. RinceThis

    November 10, 2014 at 19:33

    And people say consoles are on the way out? Not with publishers seeing this

    Reply

    • Bobby

      November 11, 2014 at 03:48

      consoles will wither BECAUSE of publishers (aka money vampires) not their drm

      Reply

  15. Kromas, Guardian of Cenarius

    November 10, 2014 at 19:37

    It is easy to explain. After cracking the previous gen consoles early they realized it was a piece of crap and moved back to PC gaming. No hackers left playing consoles to crack it.

    #MasterRace!

    Reply

  16. Jackie

    November 10, 2014 at 20:53

    meh, pirates arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr bad we get it….. but they’ve given games to ALOT of people and EA isnt soO far in Red as you’d believe XD

    Reply

  17. DrKiller

    November 11, 2014 at 09:23

    Don’t speak too soon… C4eva spoke a week ago 🙂

    “yes, well on that, i’ve had some breakthroughs, the sun is definitely rising on a new dawn!”

    Reply

  18. Orwell

    November 11, 2014 at 18:51

    How many of you have downloaded music without paying for it?
    How many of you have downloaded movies without paying for it?
    How many of you have downloaded The latest Blacklist, or The Flash, or any number of your favourite series without having a legal subscription to HBO or Netflix. How many of you have actually watched House Of Cards simply by downloading the torrent?.
    How about anime?. Or manga?
    You read Weekly Shonen Jump?…Surely not scanned copies.

    My guess is that you’re vehemently against piracy of games but remain daily subscribers to the culture that perpetuates it. Developers (Indie developers are not included in this) Concepts artists and most if not all the people involved in games are paid monthly during the development of the game. Once signed to a publisher or development studio, all staff and artists working on the game are paid for their work as the games development progresses. This money comes from the studio that eventually distributes the game, for example. EA, Ubisoft or activision. No money is taken out of the pocket of developers or artists who contribute to the game, once completed. They are paid and move on to the next project. To say that it “hurts the industry” shows a general lack of knowledge for the mere scope of games development and its massive surge in popularity and profitability.

    Moreover, Piracy is piracy, the distribution of copyright material is illegal, but essentially a victimless crime, at best you’re taking money out of the pocket of investors who fund these projects, at worst you kill a developers heart to publish good titles. Essentially games keep coming and people keep making them.

    I’m an artist myself and quite perfectly understand how easily ones copyright can be stolen without permission and the dangers it poses to ones work and income. However, the piracy at issue does not endanger the culture of the artist, or the developer and his or her motivations for creating bigger and better content. Your dislike and perhaps righteousness against piracy is unfounded and declaration by some that its a crime are quite silly. Be reasonable about such things, don’t be quick to jump on the moral high ground when many of you are guilty of pretty much the same things. I enjoy purchasing new games and have contributed my fair sum of time, effort and money to the culture that enriches my life.

    However, Piracy of content and its impact on the big picture are negligible at best.

    Just one PS. Many of the users here are regulars at 9gag, I assume. Are you aware that a lot of content on 9gag violates image copyrights to artists? Images that do no fall under public domain and actually hurt the artist for loss of exposure and in many cases loss of income?.

    We’re all guilty of piracy. There are far worse things to be guilty of and essentially a symptom of a far greater sickness. Thanks to any soul who read this far. I don’t hope to change your mind, simply get you to think, rather than being unjustly righteous and scratching at the names you deem as thieves or immoral.

    Reply

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  20. me

    December 3, 2014 at 23:20

    I pirate anything and everything, just for the hell of it. Even if I have absolutely no interest in the game or the genre, there’s just no greater satisfaction than getting a $60 game for free… and I don’t care.

    Reply

  21. Jcr85

    December 17, 2014 at 21:33

    Actually, no one is being deprived of any property, so it is not stealing.

    “Theft is defined as the physical removal of an object that is capable of being stolen without the consent of the owner and with the intention of depriving the owner of it permanently.” -Encyclopedia Britannica.

    So when you are mouthing off claiming that it is “blatant theft”, you are really just professing your own ignorance.

    And don’t worry – it may take a few more months, maybe a year, but soon enough the new consoles will be cracked and we will again have an alternative to the ridiculous prices they charge for new console games.

    Reply

  22. Bob

    December 24, 2014 at 06:06

    Downloading the new xbox 360 games iso for xmas right now. Thank god for xkey…Next gen will take some time.. I wont buy a console unless I get free games. However, I do purchase the map packs..

    Reply

  23. dubious1konobi

    December 30, 2014 at 14:32

    Haha. You sound like a dick head like me, bringing philosophy into gaming

    Reply

  24. Sjaak S

    January 5, 2015 at 06:02

    I think 60 Dollars or Euro for a game (that is what I remembered when my daughter bought Assassins Creed for her Playstation, is too much. True, it costs money to make the games, but I think there would be more money for the developers and companies who sell the games, if they would be one third of the price nowadays.
    For me, having to pay so much money for a game is also stealing.

    Reply

  25. Dead Parrot

    January 10, 2015 at 03:48

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    Reply

  26. piracy lol

    January 21, 2015 at 11:29

    you guys are just brainwashed pansys with no real intelligence on this subject, u keep buying unfinished games then u pay more for DLC that should have been included in the initial purchase, these companys will keep finding ways of bleeding you dry and you people just throw ur parents money at them, and you think piracy is wrong? lmfao.

    piracy is a way of standing up to these companys that have no interest in the community, fuck them, they work for us, yet somewhere along the way people seem to have forgotten this and let the game rule them instead, then a company like EA will abuse this fact, do something stupid, THEN you cry? idiots

    i will always pirate a game, theres no way in hell i would pay more than £5 per hour it takes me to play it, if developers these days are gonna make games that take 3h to complete then they can suck it, lazy devs get what they deserve

    i come from the days when u sold a product it was the whole product, look at CoD as a example, initial game £40, 4 lots of dlc maps £50 gun skins and other nonsense £more its beyond stupid, stop selling DLC and ingame purchases and put all the content into the original game, then maybe people will buy ur shit instead of downloading it for free

    no support from me till u support us back.

    Reply

  27. you_equals_idiot

    January 25, 2015 at 07:11

    “We can debate this all day, but the truth is, piracy is a crime. Plain and simple, with morality not having a say in this.”

    No it fucking isn’t.

    Reply

  28. Nekochan

    February 10, 2015 at 02:08

    What rock have you been hiding under?

    After 2 seconds of googling I found half a dozen sites with torrents for GTA V , some of which were boasting about how their versions were cracked to allow people to cheat online.

    Reply

  29. Omri Suleiman

    February 13, 2015 at 13:28

    great to see the prices of games go down now that piracy isn’t costing the industry all those billions.

    oh.

    well at least Sony are recouping all those billions they spent developing the FreeBSD OS.

    oh, again ?

    I actually like to pay for my games, but your post and your outlook is wrong.

    Reply

  30. jlenoconel

    February 13, 2015 at 13:34

    I think consoles should be at least able to gain access to PC software if the user chooses to use their console for that purpose. If I had the opportunity to hack my Xbox One to play Steam games (that I paid for), I’d do it in a heartbeat.

    Reply

  31. Nobody_Anybody

    February 22, 2015 at 11:51

    But then again, why whould you want to have console games? Gaming is best done on a PC.

    It’s already to bad many games have been changed to much for the console crowd. Auto heal, inferior controls and more of that junk.

    Not that it’s a bad thing for consoles. You play a console game from a sofa with a controller, just chilling.
    Sure that has to be more casual / relaxing. No to intensive, not to hard. A PC-gamer sets himself in frond a a PC and is looking for a challenge more then for a moment of relaxation.

    But that is then also why you do gaming on a PC. Relaxing you can do on a console or simply by watching a movie.

    Reply

  32. Hannibal Is at the Gates

    February 22, 2015 at 12:00

    Thanks for the article, i needed a laugh.

    Reply

  33. khi

    March 1, 2015 at 11:32

    Now let’s talk about paying an additional 200 dollars for downloadable story content. That’s gets dropped a week after a games release. Straight bs I understand paying for special weapons or skins and even map packs to a point. But screw the industry

    Reply

  34. khi

    March 1, 2015 at 11:34

    Can’t even play cod or other fps shooters with your friends unless u buy the monthly map packs. F+×# the industry

    Reply

  35. Anon

    March 29, 2015 at 20:24

    Try not to get saddle rash up there on your high horse.

    Reply

  36. guest

    April 1, 2015 at 19:04

    you still need hardware/infrastructure to run games

    Reply

  37. Saken Kagazbekov

    May 29, 2015 at 21:19

    I really do not mind paying money for games instead of using pirated ones.

    But can you get exclusive game that never … NEVER came out of the one country cause it does not sell well?!

    Yeah, thought so.

    So many good games were left exclusive to Japan for many years. And some are still existent for us consumers only because selfless people not only upload them but even translate them for us.

    So, judge all you want. But piracy is indication of problem in industry. You think prohibition shut out the crime? It only encouraged it. it’s the same thing. Fix the problem instead of spawning numbers of codes to be cracked in the future and then cursing the ones who broke through your cyber Iron Curtain.

    Reply

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  40. DarkwarrioR

    August 14, 2015 at 01:35

    Piracy: Is it wrong or right? We don’t have answer, but we do know that before internet and possibility to pirate console games, most games were you know… shitty (look up market crash and LJN) So even if you are going-by-the-book sheep, you can thank us pirates for making shitty games that are not even worth playing a minority!

    The people who hate piracy the most are the people who make shitty content that is a waste of time and disk space (of course they won’t sell, no shit)

    Reply

  41. vallabhaka

    August 19, 2015 at 00:42

    Absolute boot-licking. “The law is the law, regardless of what people think or believe”. Spineless. Cowardly. When the US gaming industry becomes Australia, we will have writers and thinkers like Darryn Bonthuys to thank.

    Reply

  42. John Calmerin

    October 16, 2015 at 10:02

    Maybe because console has been on a decline since 2008, from 90mil to under 50mil units sold.

    Reply

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