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FFD: Is Microsoft back in the game?

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For a while there, it seemed like the next-generation console war was over before it even began. Sony had already won gamers over with its gamer and developer-minded console, and then Microsoft scored an own-goal by saddling its next-generation console with consumer-unfriendly DRM. And then that changed.

In one of the most amazing corporate about-turns seen in any industry, Microsoft dropped all of it. The online authentication, the 24-hour checks, the restriction on used and loaned games. All of it. Already, it’s had a significant impact. Die-hard Xbox fans who had sworn fealty to Sony have once again pledged allegiance to Redmond. Internationally, pre-orders for the Xbox One have skyrocketed, and analysts have predicted that the Xbox One will match PlayStation 4 sales figures when both systems are released later this year.

Of course, the situation is a little different in South Africa. while Sony’s machine is set for local release this year, Microsoft’s Xbox one isn’t. We don;t know when it’ll be coming, but it’ll be in 2014; so there’s still the chance that those eager to jump in to next-gen will go for the PlayStation 4. There’s also the issue of price, and the Xbox One is still $100 more, thanks to the bundled Kinect.

Still, the tide has changed, and momentum is swinging in Microsoft’s favour right now. But is it enough? Has the policy change brought Microsoft back in to the game, or is it all a little too late?

What say you, fine folk? Are you once again stuck with the first world problem of having to decide which console to get, or are your minds already made up?

Last Updated: June 21, 2013

154 Comments

  1. Admiral Chief Groot Wors

    June 21, 2013 at 10:35

    Coooome to our side!

    Reply

    • Lardus

      June 21, 2013 at 10:36

      That Titan Fall trailer and gameplay video impressed me a great deal, and I will only play it on PC, so my PC needs an upgrade in any case! For that and eventually Dawn of War 3

      Reply

  2. Happy Hamster

    June 21, 2013 at 10:36

    Speaking of Microsoft , Xbox Live Worldwide died last night for about a hour and it had to be at a point in the movie i was enjoying on Netflix

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    • Rinceyouropinion

      June 21, 2013 at 10:38

      Tell me about it. I was downloading some stupid 400mb patch for Borderlands2 and it cut out. Nice…

      Reply

  3. HvR

    June 21, 2013 at 10:37

    They gave themselves a fighting chance but with limit country deployment, higher price and being less game centric I think PS4 is going to take the biggest world wide share

    Xbone will probably still be the US favorite with its extra sources of incomes via services it is still going to be a commercial success.

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    • Captain Minion TallTwit

      June 21, 2013 at 10:49

      Maybe MS is only interested in the ol’ ‘YOU S of A’.

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      • HvR

        June 21, 2013 at 11:24

        If that is the case they are going to loose (just like Apple market share is currently declining), world wide market is increasing making the US a decreasing world wide market share by percentage. In 2012 the US was already down to 40% of the world wide gaming market.

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        • Captain Minion TallTwit

          June 21, 2013 at 11:25

          Agree 100% with you there.

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        • Mike E. Delta

          June 21, 2013 at 22:04

          “loose?” as in loose-y goose-y? =p

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          • HvR

            June 21, 2013 at 23:07

            *lose
            Blame on my bad ingels or my love of the double tap.

    • DarthofZA

      June 21, 2013 at 11:01

      “Less game centric”… Seriously? I would argue that they are tie in that department at worst case scenario for MS.

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      • Argentil

        June 21, 2013 at 11:08

        I will agree here. Sony’s exclusive showing this year for PS4 was incredibly underwhelming – by Playstation standards. Next year, once all in-house studios have shifted to next-gen, we will have an explosion of interesting PS4 titles.
        I’m surprised at just how many third-party exclusives Sony lost this gen. Microsoft must have delivered on their billion dollar promised of exclusive content.

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        • Spathi

          June 21, 2013 at 11:35

          I agree, but if MS has gone “all-in” with their showing of exclusives at E3, that also wasn’t really impressive at all. Both still lacking in compelling exclusives. But, the next gen hasn’t even begun yet. Still a far far way to go to be able to judge how this will turn out.

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          • Argentil

            June 21, 2013 at 11:47

            I believe they have a couple more games in development. But most of their reveals were premature for sure.

      • HvR

        June 21, 2013 at 11:21

        Expanded service and Free games PS+ service and Sony reaching out to indie developers I think you have a bigger chance of that unexpected blow your mind gem being released on the PS4.

        AAA (bar 1 or 2 exceptions a year) will always be available on both.

        Also 75% of the games shown at E3 by MS are 1st on Xbone and not xbone exclusive.

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        • DarthofZA

          June 21, 2013 at 13:33

          Show your proof of that.. the % is closer to 20%.

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    • Argentil

      June 21, 2013 at 11:05

      The Xbox brand has a lot of fans. I think we will probably see a closer split than you’d think.
      Maybe even 50-50 as Pachter predicted, and he’s usually wrong.

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  4. eXpZA

    June 21, 2013 at 10:38

    Higher price, less powerful system, no South African support (local store is a joke) – I LOVE my 360, I’ll still be getting a PS4.

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    • Lardus

      June 21, 2013 at 11:08

      Still have some pre-order bonus DLC I cannot get on the local Xbox store because the game is not on the local store. Pity.

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    • Mike E. Delta

      June 21, 2013 at 22:06

      Seriously should get ALL of the systems! (If you can, of course…) =D

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  5. Argentil

    June 21, 2013 at 10:38

    Someone should tell BTGames Xbox One isn’t releasing here in November.

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    • Happy Hamster

      June 21, 2013 at 10:41

      Maybe they know something we dont , wait this is BTGames who am i kidding

      Reply

  6. TechniKyle

    June 21, 2013 at 10:38

    I think a more important question is: Is “Lounge suite” Francis a quack?

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    • HvR

      June 21, 2013 at 10:40

      I actually enjoy his “normal” videos, he always gives a good balanced view.

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      • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

        June 21, 2013 at 10:41

        Yeah the difference is astounding. And he speaks so clearly in his normal videos

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        • TechniKyle

          June 21, 2013 at 10:42

          (psst, this wasn’t my original question, but I decided the first one was too rude, so I had to think of something else :-/ )

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          • HvR

            June 21, 2013 at 10:43

            Dodging the friday ban hammer I see

          • TechniKyle

            June 21, 2013 at 10:44

            More like trying to be less of a bitch.

          • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

            June 21, 2013 at 10:59

            Hammer you say?

          • HvR

            June 21, 2013 at 11:12

            Or are you hitting people with your ban wors these days?

            **PS wanted to include a picture of ban wors/sausage but search results got real dodgy after page 2.

          • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

            June 21, 2013 at 10:43

            Hahaha. I don’t think I even want to know…

  7. Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

    June 21, 2013 at 10:39

    I think a lot of damage has already been done and there must be people out here who feel that the fix was too easy and so it can be patched back to how it was just as easily.

    Some feel betrayed and won’t go back.

    But, I think their choice has still put them back in the game and made them a real contender again. I do feel that they missed a golden opportunity to do something unique and different though….

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  8. Jonah Cash

    June 21, 2013 at 10:39

    I fell in the Kinect 1 trap and bought one for R2000-00!!! I will never get over the hurt that had caused me!!! I will be going back to Sony….. Good bye MS, it was fun while it lasted!!!

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  9. Happy Hamster

    June 21, 2013 at 10:39

    The thing thats going to kill Xbox One is the 21 country launch then the plebs a year later

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    • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

      June 21, 2013 at 10:43

      Oman you are right!

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    • CaptainNemo42

      June 21, 2013 at 10:54

      No it’s not. Microsoft don’t see that is part of their strategy. They only worry about the US market. If you look at the current gen, and remove the US sales all together, then the Xbox is way behind Sony and Nintendo.

      MS knows exactly where their loyal fanbase is. And that’s in the Good ‘ol US of A.

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      • Happy Hamster

        June 21, 2013 at 10:58

        I know for a fact South America’s internet is crap but they are in the 21 country list , i think the drug cartels are involved with that

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        • HvR

          June 21, 2013 at 11:06

          New cocaine hut ordering service?

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          • Trevor Davies

            June 21, 2013 at 11:08

            If the Kinect sees you roll up a $100 bill it’ll automatically dispatch a dealer to your home :/

        • CaptainNemo42

          June 21, 2013 at 11:11

          I don’t think the internet quality’s got anything to do with it. I think they’re going the places they believe to be stronger markets for them.

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          • Happy Hamster

            June 21, 2013 at 11:19

            The South American Market in one place

          • CaptainNemo42

            June 21, 2013 at 11:21

            haha. Yeah. That covers about two thirds of the countries that’s not getting the early release.

          • Skyblue

            June 21, 2013 at 12:27

            So poverty is funny now, nice

    • boet

      June 21, 2013 at 12:11

      Maybe the countries outside the 21 makes up such a small percentage of profit it wont affect the success of the xbone? Lets be honest, half the games in SA are traded and sold 2nd hand anyway, not selling games in in SA will hardly affect Microsoft.

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  10. Rinceyouropinion

    June 21, 2013 at 10:40

    I think they have managed to get themselves back into the market in America. Not so sure in other places in the world. I must say I am far happier with them and am almost inclined to say I am on the fence. But that bloody EYE is just putting me off my stroke, I mean, off giving a toss, no, I mean…

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    • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

      June 21, 2013 at 10:56

      O_O

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  11. Trevor Davies

    June 21, 2013 at 10:41

    If I was in the market for a console I would chose Sony. I don’t care about extra features, I care about gaming – both consoles are fairly evenly matched on that point. Where Sony won this for me was with far superior communication & showing more interest in gamers. MS has been acting like a spoilt fat kid demanding cake for dinner, then sulking after being forced to eat some veggies first.

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  12. Spathi

    June 21, 2013 at 10:44

    I’ll be getting the PS4 personally, for the following reasons:

    1. The exclusive games of the current gen showed me how dedicated Sony was to gamers, even late in the generation.

    2. I’m not sure that I trust MS, and it was a dick move in the first place to enforce DRM.

    3. The price makes a difference.

    4. The whole cloud processing thing, which would make even certain single player games online only. (Dead Rising seems to suggest this.) Also, the PS4 is more powerful and thus will be “on par ” (I use this terms loosely, and in direct comparison to the price) longer with PCs.

    5. I don’t like advertisements on my UI. The “extra TV features” of the XB1 also have no appeal to me.

    6. The Xbox exclusives never really appealed to me (Halo, Gears and Forza).

    7. Naughty Dog and Gran Turismo.

    8. I hate the Kinect.

    Later on, I might pick up a XB1, but only after a price drop.

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    • Argentil

      June 21, 2013 at 10:54

      I share a lot of that reasoning, but the power of the cloud is a pipe dream. It’s a marketing buzz word in microsoft’s hands. As I said in another comment thread, cloud computing, in practice, is highly limited. The limitations are so severe, that you would be optimistic to expect cloud computing to handle small AI or physics calculations. They are lying, basically.

      I encourage anyone to read up on cloud computing to get a better idea of what is actually possible with today’s technology. A 5% performance boost on a perfect line is the reality.

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    • DarthofZA

      June 21, 2013 at 11:06

      I agree with Spathi on points numbered 3, 4 and 9. Points 1 and 7 I think, from what MS have shown, will be different next gen. 2… Don’t trust Sony either, only Nintendo has my trust. I like Halo and Gears, and their other studios could come with with some new franchises that I will like. As of now, if I HAD to buy at launch, it would be a PS4. But I won’t buy one until at least 2015, and so by then I’ll be able to compare between the two properly.

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      • DarthofZA

        June 21, 2013 at 11:07

        Forgot to answer question… yes, I believe they are very much in the race, but haven’t quite overtaken Sony. Their Exclusive library might just provide the endurance to eventually overtake though.

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      • Spathi

        June 21, 2013 at 11:09

        Ja, I don’t trust Sony either, and not even Nintendo 😀 But I trust them more than MS currently. Damn man, I almost trust our government more than MS currently 😉

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        • Argentil

          June 21, 2013 at 11:10

          I trust our own government more than the US Government currently.

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  13. Captain Minion TallTwit

    June 21, 2013 at 10:46

    I do not own a console, however, when I do purchase one, it will be the PS4.

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    • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

      June 21, 2013 at 10:55

      I’ll get PS3 when super cheeeep for TLOU

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      • Captain Minion TallTwit

        June 21, 2013 at 10:59

        My work colleague bought TLOU. He raves over it.

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        • Umar Kiiroi Senk?

          June 21, 2013 at 11:07

          brilliant game ……….

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      • Spathi

        June 21, 2013 at 10:59

        Just bite the bullet. This time next year, you will be a full blown console addict despising the Master Race, just like us 🙂

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        • HvR

          June 21, 2013 at 11:04

          You can not despise the master race, you can only envy us.

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          • Umar Kiiroi Senk?

            June 21, 2013 at 11:05

            There’s not enough space in their ego for us to envy them

          • Spathi

            June 21, 2013 at 11:06

            Dammit, the secret is out!!

            I’m actually some weird kind of hybrid, half Master Race and half console pleb.

          • Umar Kiiroi Senk?

            June 21, 2013 at 11:07

            so……you’re a ps4?

          • Spathi

            June 21, 2013 at 11:10

            Baddafuckingboom!!!

          • Trevor Davies

            June 21, 2013 at 11:06

            Their hatred only makes us stronger & convinces us of the nobility of our cause!

  14. Captain Minion TallTwit

    June 21, 2013 at 10:47

    Can be patched to remove the DRM, therefore can be patched to reintroduce DRM.

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    • boet

      June 21, 2013 at 11:39

      And you think sony cant do the same?

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      • Captain Minion TallTwit

        June 21, 2013 at 11:42

        Of course Sony could do the same… no doubt.
        My opinion is however, I would bet more on MS doing this, Sony has gotten too much of a Next-Gen head start on MS too duff it up on purpose. Again, just my gut-feeling.

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        • Argentil

          June 21, 2013 at 11:45

          Sony has put a lot of energy into this idea that they never intended to implement DRM. If they were to introduce it halfway through the generation, there would be outcry, and they would be back in 2007 after all the goodwill they’ve fostered. If anything, they will hold out until next gen if their competitors are using DRM, and getting by without being vilified.

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          • boet

            June 21, 2013 at 12:03

            Same apples to MS. They tried it, it failed, doubt if they would do it again.

          • Argentil

            June 21, 2013 at 12:05

            I agree, but they have lost face, and so a lot of people will assume that they can’t be trusted. You maybe find a digital-only version of the Xbox One at a lower price, without a Bluray and an online requirement in a few years – but that’s the most I would expect.

  15. CrasH

    June 21, 2013 at 10:55

    I am going to stay clear of both for now. Maybe with price drop and larger game selection and after all the bugs have been sorted i might consider one.

    Intrestingly, a hacker gets hold of your webcam and can see what you do, and gets a 18 months prison sentence.
    http://www.expertcriminallaw.co.uk/latest-news/1642/computer-expert-jailed-after-hacking-victims-webcams.htm
    But Xbone, its a must and always on and it’s suppose to be legal? This function is bound to be exploited, but MS themselves or hackers to try steal personal information.

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    • Argentil

      June 21, 2013 at 10:58

      If you are willing to trust Microsoft with your privacy (even after they admitted to sharing private information via PRISM), I can understand that. However, I wouldn’t trust the US government not to bully MS into repeating the same mistake.

      Edit: Numerous countries are refusing to accept kinect after the NSA incident.

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  16. Craig Deubler

    June 21, 2013 at 10:56

    Where did you get that PS4 is hitting SA first? At this point even Aus isn’t getting it this year.

    I lean a little more towards X1, (Spark, Sunset overdrive, Titanfall) but next weeks developer //BUILD conference will be make or break. If MS don’t do right by indies / selfpub, I’ll probably wait until next year and the first round of price cuts too decide.

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    • Spathi

      June 21, 2013 at 10:57

      Local retailer confirmed PS4 coming this year. MS confirmed XB1 not coming this year.

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    • Exalted Overlord Geoffrey Tim

      June 21, 2013 at 11:15

      As of right now, we’ve been told to expect the PS4 this year, and the Xbox One early next year.

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  17. Umar Kiiroi Senk?

    June 21, 2013 at 10:56

    This was really funny after watching AJ interview Nelson

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    • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

      June 21, 2013 at 10:59

      SO MUCH WIN!!!

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      • Umar Kiiroi Senk?

        June 21, 2013 at 11:02

        lol oh the hypocrisy….

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  18. Trevor Davies

    June 21, 2013 at 10:59

    Just to be clear, do you mean hands-on experience with the PS4 & Xbox One, or with movie parodies & nature documentaries?

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    • Captain Minion TallTwit

      June 21, 2013 at 11:02

      Was thinking the same thing. O_o

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    • Lardus

      June 21, 2013 at 11:05

      Hehehe All of the above!!

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  19. Jakster

    June 21, 2013 at 11:08

    A wise old man once said, hardware is only as good as the software bricking it.

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  20. Wtf101

    June 21, 2013 at 11:12

    Exactly what I was thinking. But for the record, with the cost of the console and the cost of the games, I would rather go back to PC gaming, at least for the next two years…

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  21. CaptainNemo42

    June 21, 2013 at 11:14

    Let me know if I’m the only one who thinks this. But Microsoft seems to be the one pushing really hard for the online connectivity, but Sony is that seems to offer the better online experience. Just an observation.

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    • FoxOneZA - X-Therminator

      June 21, 2013 at 11:16

      Cloud powered multiplayer is far superior than traditional multiplayer. It’s like YouTube streaming vs uSTream.

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      • CaptainNemo42

        June 21, 2013 at 11:47

        Not sure that argument can be made until we’ve seen it in action. But I’m sure you have a point. Also. I think Sony got some cloud power behind their servers as well, they’re just not selling it at this stage. Look at Multi platform games like The Division and The Crew.

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      • Argentil

        June 21, 2013 at 11:48

        Of which the PS4 supports both. Isn’t variety nice. I won’t be engaging the troll anymore than this. Sorry guys.

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        • CaptainNemo42

          June 21, 2013 at 12:08

          The only distinctive thing I saw from MS regarding their cloud server was the Drivatar (man that is bad) thing in ForTza 5, and it just looks like a fancy and new Gran Turismo B-Spec mode. ;P

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          • Argentil

            June 21, 2013 at 12:17

            Ja, it is B-Spec with a twist. I loved B-Spec, and having adaptive AI sounds really kewl. We’ll see how much of it is show-talk in a few months, but I believe the basic idea is there: the inclusion of the cloud is unnecessary though.

          • CaptainNemo42

            June 21, 2013 at 12:29

            I think there was a lot of show talk in that press conference. As far as I’m concerned, there are on such thing as an Xbox One and only Nvidia powered Window 7 PCs.

  22. FoxOneZA - X-Therminator

    June 21, 2013 at 11:14

    Prefer’s me Forza’s and Halo’s with a touch of cloud power BUT only until a price drop. Gamer’s are hungry for a next-gen console and they’ll go where it’s cheaper.

    Come next-next-gen, Francis well Francis…would he even still exist by then?

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  23. Happy Hamster

    June 21, 2013 at 11:16

    OK im gonna go out on a limb and ask what might be a stupid question or maybe something brilliant. For this stupid brilliant question im going to use battlefield 4 as a example. Ok Pietie buys battle 4 for xbox 360 and paashaas buys battlefield for xbox 1.When playing online one a BF server would One and 360 have there own servers or would Pietie be playing against paashaas.

    It would become very expensive for EA / Dice if each had there own bf servers or would it be like Codemasters and have a p2p where one player is the host and the rest try to connect

    The same goes for PS3 and PS4

    i posted the question in a email to the higher archy of the site but alas no response not even a automated one to say Thankyou Hamster for you Brilliance we will squiz through the email and get back to you

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    • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

      June 21, 2013 at 11:17

      LOL @ paashaas

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    • FoxOneZA - X-Therminator

      June 21, 2013 at 11:19

      Brilliant question,

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    • Argentil

      June 21, 2013 at 11:19

      We can only speculate. I would guess they’ll be separate for Xbox One due to server restrictions, and up to the developer/publisher for PS4.

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    • BEANIBIL1TY

      June 21, 2013 at 11:49

      they would have the own separate servers due to the Xbox 360 and PS3 only been able to support 24 people per a game

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      • Happy Hamster

        June 21, 2013 at 11:52

        It going to be expensive for the developers

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        • BEANIBIL1TY

          June 21, 2013 at 12:05

          not really, as people move move over from this gen to the next, devs will shut it down as the need for them decrease. Games like BF3 cannot run without a server due to the ability to change rules in an instant and no P2P interface. They also rent servers, so they pay less to run it. Games like Gears of war on the other hand can do P2P and also have servers. Epic games still runs GOW3 servers even though GOWJ is out. They loosing money but there are 6 times the amount of people playing GOW3 than GOWJ so it shows that devs dont mind as long as the gamers are happy. (based on opinion)

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    • Exalted Overlord Geoffrey Tim

      June 21, 2013 at 11:52

      I received no such email!

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      • Happy Hamster

        June 21, 2013 at 11:57

        i clicked the contact details on the site and entered all my details ,so maybe that option aint working

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  24. Wtf101

    June 21, 2013 at 11:20

    Can someone out there answer me this: What are the games for these next gen consoles going to cost us? Just want to know…

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    • Lardus

      June 21, 2013 at 11:20

      $60 a pop – same as now basically! Read that somewhere yesterday

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    • Happy Hamster

      June 21, 2013 at 11:21

      About the same as now

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  25. fred

    June 21, 2013 at 11:24

    MS is in it with a fighting chance , i guess 5 million sales for each by march 2014.

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  26. Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

    June 21, 2013 at 11:24

    It definitely puts them back in the race, but I have no intention of getting an xbox one. I’m pretty sure there’s a flood of gamers who suffer from goldfish memory, who’ll forget what was really at stake.

    I just don’t trust Microsoft, I don’t think they’ll keep their word. and I have a feeling once they have a decent install base for xbox one, they’re going to revisit the DRM issue. It won’t be as restrictive, but they’re definitely on a mission here.

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    • Spathi

      June 21, 2013 at 11:31

      The mythical cloud processing will be the perfect excuse.

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      • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

        June 21, 2013 at 11:36

        Most definitely, I don’t buy the claims that the cloud adds to processing power, it certainly didn’t for SimCity, (and while the technology might actually exist), the biggest issue why I don’t believe their claims are latency and bandwidth.

        I think what they’re tying to sell us is the promise of the cloud, instead of the current reality – it doesn’t work and currently it’s about DRM.

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  27. Milesh Bhana

    June 21, 2013 at 11:39

    The real question is, is the R1000 difference worth it for the vastly superior controller?

    well, that’s my current mental debate, chances are I’ll probably still grab the PS4 just because the allure of next-gen will be too hard to resist when the PS4 hits this year.

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    • Argentil

      June 21, 2013 at 11:40

      You should try both controllers before making a decision. Some people prefer the new PS4 controller. Rumble triggers do sound neat though.

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      • Exalted Overlord Geoffrey Tim

        June 21, 2013 at 11:48

        MAN! THOSE RUMBLE TRIGGERS!

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        • Argentil

          June 21, 2013 at 11:50

          Yes, those Oo

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          • Exalted Overlord Geoffrey Tim

            June 21, 2013 at 11:51

            If I had an Xbox one right now, I’d rub that controller all over my nipples!

          • Argentil

            June 21, 2013 at 11:56

            Thank you for reminding me of the interesting ways people will be abusing this feature.

    • Spathi

      June 21, 2013 at 11:40

      I believe the “vastly” can removed for the next gen. Xbox controller still seems superior, but the PS4 controller seems awesome in it’s own right now.

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    • FoxOneZA - X-Therminator

      June 21, 2013 at 12:21

      And then you have to factor in the cost of a second controller.

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  28. ElimiNathan

    June 21, 2013 at 11:46

    Yes

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  29. Sachin_M

    June 21, 2013 at 12:09

    Whats to say MS dont reintroduce the DRM slowly, once they get their numbers after launch?

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  30. Skyblue

    June 21, 2013 at 12:15

    It’s and obvious yes.

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  31. OVG

    June 21, 2013 at 13:01

    4 months ago before all this DRM, used games bullshit they stated that the KINECT 2 will be MANDATORY. That is when they lost my sale no matter what SONY had up their sleeve.

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  32. theotherguy

    June 21, 2013 at 13:11

    I was going to get a ps4, but ive always been a xbox fan. I will be buying the xbox one.

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  33. WaynsterZA

    June 21, 2013 at 13:25

    Geoff. You’ve had hands on time with both, yes? If you weren’t getting both (assuming you are…) where does your preference lie?

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    • Exalted Overlord Geoffrey Tim

      June 21, 2013 at 13:32

      Have had time with both, and they’re both damned cool – honestly. it’s really going to be a tricky decision now that the DRM policy has changed. A week ago, it would have been the PS4, easy peasy.

      Now, I really am torn.

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      • WaynsterZA

        June 21, 2013 at 14:08

        Would you say that the new PS4 controller is FPS friendly? Or will that still be a fight won by XB. Oh, and as a sidebar. Did you have a look at the TV setup you guys got time with the new consoles? 1080p, 60Hz? Guess my question would be do you we need to upgrade to like 100-200Hz to really appreciate the new hardware?

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  34. Sageville

    June 21, 2013 at 13:50

    I’ve pre-ordered my PS4.

    My reasons:

    PS+
    Backward compatibility to my PS3 games via Gaikai.
    It’s what I’m used to.
    Scared of possible spyware and DRM on Xbox One.
    Lack of SA support and delayed release for Xbox One.

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  35. Nick de Bruyne

    June 21, 2013 at 15:37

    Word Usage Alert! “Draconian”

    Reply

    • Lardus

      June 21, 2013 at 15:46

      Word usage alert? I do not follow…but it is Friday 🙂

      Reply

  36. Mike E. Delta

    June 21, 2013 at 22:01

    I think it really would have been kind of funny, if they literally just came out and yelled at reporters, “FINE! Have it YOUR way!” and run off pouting…lol =p

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  37. Mike E. Delta

    June 21, 2013 at 22:02

    I wish the same could be said about some people…Vasectomy, anyone? lol =p

    Reply

  38. Slade Boender

    June 22, 2013 at 09:44

    These bastards have just played the biggest ruse in history and everyone fell for it.
    Think about it. Trojan muthafuggin horse

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    • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

      June 22, 2013 at 18:21

      It’s possible, a bit of reverse psychology, but it’s also backfired badly – if it was planned. I’m leaning towards Microsoft not being that adept at playing the game.

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  39. Nirith1ZA

    June 22, 2013 at 17:52

    What if this was planned?

    Reply

  40. Circuitflow

    June 24, 2013 at 14:31

    Dont think MS will undo what they “UNDO” already! Even MS is not that Stupid… XBOX>LIFE YOH!!

    Reply

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