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Listen to me talk about women in tech

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At the end of last month, I wrote an article about women in tech. Based on a report out of the US of A, it said that women were leaving tech faster than they could be replaced. This sparked a bunch of discussion and led me to investigate if the situation is the same in South Africa. The investigation begins on Cliff Central’s tech show today.

I will be posting a full article about what a variety of women said to me when I reached out to them on this topic. However, I do this “unradio” thing and I thought some of you might be interesting in tuning in and hearing more. You can do so right here from 10-11 live, or podcast anytime after:

Click the fancy button to play the radio



For those wondering, I am a frequent co-host on the CliffCentral tech show on Mondays. I generally go on every 3-4 weeks, but we had to add in this extra show to chat about ladies of tech and if sexism is as rampant in South Africa as it is overseas. I know you all weighed in with tons of anecdotes and comments on my original article and worry not – the points you raised will be included in our discussion on air. While there are (unfortunately) always examples of overt sexism, it’s the more nuanced sexism that can be most insidious. Still, it’s important to ask that difficult question – how do you know you are being treated in a particular way because of your gender or because you simply aren’t as qualified?

If you want to interact with us on air, feel free to use that WeChat app. Otherwise, if you don’t want to install anything, you can tweet at me or the station, or even call into the studio at 0861 555 189. Also, I generally hand select the music for the show because I’m not a fan of what they play otherwise, so please be amused by my musical choices.

Last Updated: March 23, 2015

62 Comments

  1. Admiral Chief

    March 23, 2015 at 09:46

    TEH FAAAAME!!!

    Reply

    • Loftus

      March 23, 2015 at 09:54

      I’m gonna live forever

      I’m gonna learn how to fly (High)

      I feel it coming together

      People will see me and cry

      Reply

      • Hammersteyn

        March 23, 2015 at 09:54

        Yes, they do cry….
        *Runs

        Reply

        • Loftus

          March 23, 2015 at 09:55

          hahaha daai blerrie liedjie sitnou in my kop vas! bwahaha

          Reply

  2. Hammersteyn

    March 23, 2015 at 09:53

    Stick to the classics and you can do no wrong Zoe. Pick one direction and watch me earphones fly in another direction

    Reply

    • Captain JJ the damned

      March 23, 2015 at 09:55

      Classics! Hammer has spoken.

      Reply

    • Captain JJ the damned

      March 23, 2015 at 09:56

      I made a “both directions” joke at their brand PR meeting here at my work. The people representing their brand were not amused.

      Reply

      • Admiral Chief

        March 23, 2015 at 09:57

        They are just jealous of your supreme make-up skills dude!

        Reply

        • Captain JJ the damned

          March 23, 2015 at 09:58

          Thank Thor I didn’t actually meet them in person.
          I’m no good with children.

          Reply

          • Admiral Chief

            March 23, 2015 at 09:59

            Hahaha, I’d good with kids, nothing like a good hiding to keep ’em quiet

          • Hammersteyn

            March 23, 2015 at 09:59

            How to handle kids.

          • RinceThis

            March 23, 2015 at 10:28

            hahahaha

  3. Admiral Chief

    March 23, 2015 at 09:53

    I’m curious as to the music selection

    Reply

    • Captain JJ the damned

      March 23, 2015 at 09:54

      I’m not πŸ˜‰
      Fine, I am.

      Reply

  4. Ryanza

    March 23, 2015 at 10:04

    Just a quick question. When is Gaming with Alessandro on Cliff Central? Seems like the times or days have moved.

    The Witcher 3 is coming, made me laugh so much.

    Reply

    • Alessandro Barbosa

      March 23, 2015 at 10:26

      Yeah they did change. I promise they won’t again (I hope, I have no control over these things).

      I’m on Mondays now, from 17:00-18:00. Full hour of gaming and tech πŸ™‚

      Reply

      • Admiral Chief

        March 23, 2015 at 10:27

        …expect some [HEAVY BREATHING] phone callers XD

        Reply

        • Alessandro Barbosa

          March 23, 2015 at 10:27

          I WELCOME YOUR STALKER TENDENCIES πŸ˜€

          Reply

          • Admiral Chief

            March 23, 2015 at 10:28

            FLIPPIT!

            NO ONE GETS IT!!!

            S.T.A.L.K.E.R. dammit!

          • Hammersteyn

            March 23, 2015 at 10:37

            Yes we do, you stalk wominz.

      • Ryanza

        March 23, 2015 at 10:34

        It’s Monday today. So you can fill that hour which just Witcher 3 information that was released over the weekend.

        Reply

        • Alessandro Barbosa

          March 23, 2015 at 12:11

          Only if you bombard us with questions <3

          Reply

  5. Audacity (or-das-it-eeee-eee)

    March 23, 2015 at 10:08

    wot a sexy voice πŸ˜›

    Reply

  6. hairyknees

    March 23, 2015 at 10:09

    Why is Zoe hosting a tech show? SHE’S A GIRL OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111!!!!!!!!

    Reply

    • Captain JJ the damned

      March 23, 2015 at 10:11

      What is the world coming to!?
      Madness!

      Reply

    • Hammersteyn

      March 23, 2015 at 10:25

      Diswashers abd washing machines gets more complicated every year
      *Runs

      Reply

      • Admiral Chief

        March 23, 2015 at 10:26

        *and

        Reply

  7. hairyknees

    March 23, 2015 at 10:09

    Also, gj Zoe πŸ™‚ you have such a rad radio voice!

    Reply

  8. Admiral Chief

    March 23, 2015 at 10:11

    Hi Lynette

    Reply

    • Loftus

      March 23, 2015 at 10:11

      O_o

      Reply

    • hairyknees

      March 23, 2015 at 10:13

      What a stalker!

      Reply

      • Admiral Chief

        March 23, 2015 at 10:13

        * S.T.A.L.K.E.R.

        Yes, I am.

        Love that game

        Reply

        • hairyknees

          March 23, 2015 at 10:14

          I’m such a DOTA!

          Reply

          • Captain JJ the damned

            March 23, 2015 at 10:15

            Prepare for comments on what the DOTA acronym actually means.

          • Lord Chaos

            March 23, 2015 at 10:18

            … I got nothing…

          • Admiral Chief

            March 23, 2015 at 10:19

            Dat Online Troll Arena

          • HvR

            March 23, 2015 at 10:20

            Defender Of The Ayeliner

          • Admiral Chief

            March 23, 2015 at 10:21

            Bwahahahahaha

          • Captain JJ the damned

            March 23, 2015 at 10:22

            Aye

          • Captain JJ the damned

            March 23, 2015 at 10:25

            Not me! HIM!
            Damn it! I can’t win.

          • Admiral Chief

            March 23, 2015 at 10:27

            You first agree, and then 2 minutes later you get upset?

          • Captain JJ the damned

            March 23, 2015 at 10:29

            It was a good comeback from him.

    • Lord Chaos

      March 23, 2015 at 10:16

      Brown noser. πŸ˜›

      Reply

      • Admiral Chief

        March 23, 2015 at 10:17

        Just doing some Lagz PR mos mos

        Reply

  9. Captain JJ the damned

    March 23, 2015 at 10:13

    I’m so glad Zoe actually admitted straight up she’s not a fan of their usual music. πŸ™‚ Bring on the good music!
    I would listen to Cliff Central, but the problem is that I don’t want to. ;P

    Reply

    • HvR

      March 23, 2015 at 10:15

      By biggest surprise is that they were still going. Last time I heard they were not even breaking a 1000 listeners at any one time.

      Reply

  10. Admiral Chief

    March 23, 2015 at 10:18

  11. Admiral Chief

    March 23, 2015 at 10:21

    SEXIST MANAGERS!

    Reply

  12. Blood Emperor Trevor

    March 23, 2015 at 10:28

    Women in tech? Do you mean domestic engineers? *run*

    Reply

    • Admiral Chief

      March 23, 2015 at 10:29

      [this comment is awaiting moderation]

      XD

      Reply

    • RinceThis

      March 23, 2015 at 10:38

      you betta!

      Reply

  13. Ghost In The Rift

    March 23, 2015 at 10:49

    Thanks for playing Breaking Benjamin Zoe, loved that song and great broadcast on the topic at hand.

    Reply

  14. Admiral Chief

    March 23, 2015 at 10:52

    ZOE KNOWS GAMERS???

    AMAZING!

    HAI!

    Reply

    • Captain JJ the damned

      March 23, 2015 at 11:04

      Hai

      Reply

    • hairyknees

      March 23, 2015 at 11:12

      HAI!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Reply

  15. Tom Krager

    March 23, 2015 at 12:37

    I find it funny that women will consider not getting tech jobs as sexist . . . meanwhile they never wonder why they don’t get roofing jobs.
    When you say that women are leaving tech jobs . .. what do you mean? Leaving like getting fired or leaving voluntarily? I should look this up a bit more but I don’t think jumping to conclusions of sexism is the best way to go forward. Not ever gender needs to be represented equally in each career . .. which is why I brought up the roofing thing.

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    • Captain JJ the damned

      March 23, 2015 at 12:45

      You make a fair point. In my line of work I’m pretty much the only man in the office. I haven’t heard anyone here complain about men not being represented enough. So it certainly does depend on the type of job.
      It doesn’t mean men or women can’t do certain jobs, it also doesn’t mean that they shouldn’t. It just means that they don’t have to.

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      • Tom Krager

        March 23, 2015 at 12:51

        exactly . . . 100% agree

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      • Ryanza

        March 23, 2015 at 12:55

        “Only man in the office” Does that explain the eyeliner.

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        • Captain JJ the damned

          March 23, 2015 at 14:18

          Haha. This really isn’t helping me. If HvR saw that I’d never hear the end of it.

          Reply

  16. Frik van der Hewerskink

    March 23, 2015 at 12:58

    Why always with the sexism ? sigh

    Reply

    • Ryanza

      March 23, 2015 at 13:02

      That time of the month? It’s a joke. A bad joke. Don’t hate me.

      Reply

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