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The MSSA sent out a press release yesterday announcing that the South African League of Legends national team will be taking part in a tri-nations tournament against Israel and Denmark in the near future.

The exact wording is as follows,

For this reason the MSSA, with a great deal of help from both MWEB and the IeSF have structured the first ever on-line Tri-Nations Test Match.

The South African Protea Team will be pitted against both Denmark and Israel in this exciting test match.

The Danes are without doubt the favourites, but the South African Team is determined to hold their own.

Even though the Tri-Nation Test Match will be played on-line, the South African team will play as a unit from the MWEB MCAVE at the MWEB head office in Parow.

So instead of just posting this and waving flags let’s look at some of the details.

First up the MSSA has structured the first ever online tri nations test match…Well done except the Danish are already playing on online Tri-Nations against Spain and France, so that’s the first lie.

Next up, it’s that test match thing again. Neither the Israeli nor Danish federations are actually federations or linked to the government. Now thankfully they both appear to be far more active and professional than the Mexican organisation and by all accounts it looks like these two will be able to provide the very best their nations have to offer… yet they aren’t official and therefore according to the laws and regulations of SASCOC, the governing body that Mind Sports falls under, it’s not really a test match. 

It’s not complicated really, according to SASCOC it is not a test match.

test match”-means a contest in sport between national teams of two or more nations, held in terms of the rules and regulations of the international controlling body of such sport.

As there is no officially recognised international controlling body the match cannot be played under the rules and regulations of it. And as the Danish and Israeli bodies are not official they can’t award official colours and as such they are not an official national team.

Okay. But why are we being so pedantic about this, isn’t it all just good for the country and eSports in general?

Well yes and no. Playing against some of the top countries is definitely good for us and is something we all want. However why not just be honest about it? What is the MSSA trying to hide by pretending these are official test matches or that they are breaking new ground here?

It doesn’t make any sense and it’s very frustrating to see an organisation lie blatantly and then have journalists in our very own country sit here and defend them.

I don’t like calling out other journalists who are just doing their job but Han Cilliers wrote this yesterday

Yes, it’s a test match. How do we know this? Israel, Denmark and South Africa are all members of the International eSports Federation (IeSF), and you can only compete at the IeSF if you represent your country.

You can only compete at the IeSF if you represent your country, not if your country recognises you. That’s a big difference. 

But don’t just take my word for it. Here is what the Israeli federation has to say about this match.

Israel’s national team will face world championship team in friendly matches against Denmark and selected South – Africa. Games will be broadcast live.

That horrible mess is the Google Translate version but I’ve had it verified by two separate Hebrew speaking people and the key point is what I have bolded above. These are being seen as friendlies by the Israeli team.

So our organisation is playing an official test match against Israel.. Israel are playing a friendly against us. It makes a mockery of the MSSA it really does and the only thing worse is the fact that when I asked Colin for confirmation I get this response.

dear Gavin
You seem to be unaware as to how sport works.
National federations are not government departments.
For example, Athletics South Africa is a private body that runs Athletics in South Africa.
SARU is a private association that runs rugby in South Africa.
SAFA is a private body that runs football in South Africa.
Need I go on?
Best regards

Yes Colin I do need you to go on, I need you to actually answer the question that was put forward. As an aside, Yes, SARU is a private organisation – but it’s one that’s affiliated with the internationally recognised International Rugby Board, which in turn is affiliated with the International Olympic committee, in turn affiliated with Sport Accord, the umbrella union of sports federations, of which FIFA, for example, is a member. that makes the IRB an officially, internationally accepted governing body. No such body exists for eSports. Interestingly, the IeSF has met the requirements and made an application to affiliate with Sport Accord, so that could well change in the future. If accepted, that would legitimise eSports and make all of this nonsense go away (though it could lead to even more bureaucratic meddling).

Hi Colin,

You are calling this a test match, are the Danish and Israeli teams chosen by their national departments or private organisations.

I look forward to your prompt response

Now yes my wording may be slightly off but we all know what the question is.

Interestingly my follow up email requesting contact details for the Israeli and Danish federations has been ignored, as has my query following up our request for information. I also contacted the IeSF previously and once I confirmed I am looking for information to investigate their matches they have also stopped responding.

Is he gone yet?

So all in all this test match is nothing more than a friendly game organised between different countries. That’s fantastic and something worth supporting –  so stop lying about it. You are just embarrassing yourself.

Oh and whoever is going to be taking over from Colin, I know you are reading this, please for the love of all that is holy don’t repeat the same mistakes. Be open, honest and transparent and the community and media at large will back you. You will get more sponsorships and backing and better press coverage. It really is that simple.

Oh and while the Israeli and Danish teams are playing online from their locations the MSSA is insisting that the South African team be on site at the Mweb Cave in Cape Town. My only response to that?

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120 Comments

  1. Admiral Chief of Rivia

    October 4, 2013 at 11:39

    Like watching a car crash in slow motion

    Reply

    • NecroRince

      October 4, 2013 at 13:15

      I got the popcorn, you got the beers?

      Reply

      • Admiral Chief of Rivia

        October 4, 2013 at 13:19

        Always, organize some biltong too dammit!

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  2. Devourer of Small Bunnies

    October 4, 2013 at 11:39

    One would assume the organisation would have tried to up its game as it were after the last debacle. Dont get me wrong, I love the fact that our guys this side can compete internationally, but under the guise of some ground breaking ploy seems tasteless.

    The lack of response is also somewhat disturbing, even though it could be considered abrasive wouldnt you as the governing member want to clear the foul stigma? I have no time for the ramblings further on regarding the MSSA as its just a headache for nothing, but that a part, surely you would want the press on your side? Hell, the gamers on your side??

    There is a fundamental lack of recognition and organisation in these “national” esport tournaments, why not just drop the “government” portion and continue with the privatised matches. Itll all just save us a lot of time and effort.

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  3. Bob the Zealot

    October 4, 2013 at 11:42

    On the Mweb Cave thing, it might not be a bad idea. Mweb has a pretty good infrastructure so, logically thinking, perhaps playing the match there will eliminante most of the bandwidth/lag issues that may pop up. ADSL in RSA is pathetic and when we look at connecting to international servers it just gets worse. My guess is that Mweb will piggy-back off their international connections and provide super-fast internet to the team. Just my two cents.

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    • Devourer of Small Bunnies

      October 4, 2013 at 11:45

      Its getting the folk there thats an issue, not everyone can up and leave to CT even over night

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      • Admiral Chief of Rivia

        October 4, 2013 at 11:45

        Also good point

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      • Bob the Zealot

        October 4, 2013 at 11:48

        Agreed but I see two options:
        1. They fly the team down for the day or,
        2. They pick a team from the area (trololololol)
        On a serious note, I cannot begin to imagine how a national agency works (or doesn’t). One would think that they would go with option 1 or find a viable alternative.

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        • Devourer of Small Bunnies

          October 4, 2013 at 12:00

          agreed

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      • Matthew Holliday

        October 4, 2013 at 12:33

        Part of the requirements from the teams being chosen, was that all the players had to be in the same province.
        So all the national players are always either JHB or CPT based.

        Or atleast thats sorta how it was last time i checked

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        • Gavin Mannion

          October 4, 2013 at 12:35

          What I would like to know is what happens when the best players are in JHB and the main sponsor doesn’t have a office up here 🙂

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          • Matthew Holliday

            October 4, 2013 at 12:49

            doesnt matter, Cape Town always wins..

          • Admiral Chief of Rivia

            October 4, 2013 at 12:50

            Pfffff, Snor City FTW!

    • Admiral Chief of Rivia

      October 4, 2013 at 11:45

      Good point

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    • HvR

      October 4, 2013 at 11:48

      Only problem is that it is in Parow next to the N1 shopping centre; if the guys participating cars aren’t parked in secure gated I recommend having a taxi company’s contact details on hand for a lift home or to the hotel.

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      • Admiral Chief of Rivia

        October 4, 2013 at 11:49

        O_O

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      • Alien Emperor Trevor

        October 4, 2013 at 11:49

        They have secure parking, I’ve been there :/

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      • Bob the Zealot

        October 4, 2013 at 11:49

        Mweb has a very big complex and pretty good security. I’m sure their cars will be fine. Also, N1 city is not that bad.

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        • Otto_ki

          October 4, 2013 at 11:52

          I though N1 city was a myth…

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          • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

            October 4, 2013 at 12:20

            It is, especially for those who head to Canal Walk… :/

        • HvR

          October 4, 2013 at 11:58

          Seen the complex never been there though.

          Got the crime report from the CPF 2 months ago, area around the N1 City is a vehicle theft and break-in hot spot. Also quite a few robberies and muggings at night.

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          • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

            October 4, 2013 at 12:20

            Mmmm that sucks. I always have fond memories of the arcade at N1 City, but I have to admit, I haven’t been (back) there in years.

          • Admiral Chief of Rivia

            October 4, 2013 at 12:22

            I miss oldschool arcades

          • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

            October 4, 2013 at 12:24

            Yeah me too, Grand West had a decent one up until a few years ago, but they’ve changed it up recently. All the old games are out… sigh! Just not the same.

          • Matthew Holliday

            October 4, 2013 at 12:35

            Old Wonderland ftw
            that massive octopuss over the arcade was awesome

          • Marc O Polo

            October 5, 2013 at 06:56

            apparently its still there and its still massive, haven’t been in years though

          • Marc O Polo

            October 5, 2013 at 06:56

            south africa is a theft and break in hotspot!

      • Matthew Holliday

        October 4, 2013 at 12:56

        Its fine, this is League of Legends, their moms will drop them off.

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  4. Alien Emperor Trevor

    October 4, 2013 at 11:43

    Right now, his favourite animal is looking like carrot.

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    • NecroRince

      October 4, 2013 at 13:16

      MINE!

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      • Alien Emperor Trevor

        October 4, 2013 at 13:23

        Yes yes okay, the carrot animals are all yours. *back away slowly*

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        • NecroRince

          October 4, 2013 at 13:54

          You can’t back away slowly enough! *waves finger in a threatening manner 0-O

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  5. Otto_ki

    October 4, 2013 at 11:47

    You mess with Gavin you mess with Lazygamer.net as a whole family 😀

    Reply

  6. Hammersteyn

    October 4, 2013 at 11:50

    Colins leaving? Well don’t let the door hit your self inflated ego and arrogant personality on the way out. People like you are whats wrong with the country. You were put into position with the responsibility to bring Esports up to the level of the outside world. Instead like countless corrupt officials you used this opportunity that thousands would kill for to line your pockets.

    Good Riddance you sad pathetic little man

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  7. Alien Emperor Trevor

    October 4, 2013 at 11:55

    So we’ve had malicious & sensationalist. Wonder what this blob post will be called.

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    • Admiral Chief of Rivia

      October 4, 2013 at 11:55

      provocative blob

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    • GalacticLordCaptainAwesomeness

      October 4, 2013 at 11:55

      Inflammatory and unprofessional

      Reply

    • Bob the Zealot

      October 4, 2013 at 11:57

      Maybe this time they’ll go with vindictive and opportunistic. Or maybe they’ll take a page out of Malema’s book and just call him a “Bloody Agent”.

      Reply

    • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

      October 4, 2013 at 12:24

      Bullying blob? Or has bullying already been used? I forget?

      Reply

  8. Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

    October 4, 2013 at 11:58

    Oh boy here we go again *Takes out popcorn*

    But on a serious note I would have no issue with them stating it’s a tri-nations official match if the other 2 countries also did. BUT, at least one of them is viewing it as a friendly. This means that organisation and communication is up to sh*t. This is very embarrising.

    My question to the MSSA is this:

    If we are calling this an official international and the other countries are viewing it as a friendly, then won’t we become the laughing stock of those countries and bring embarrassment to the South African eSport scene?

    If Gavin is wrong here with the translation, and I actually hope he is (no offense Gav, but I’d much rather you be wrong about the translation than right and we look like idiots as a whole in the SA eSports scene) then great and I will gladly say I’m sorry for jumping on the hype. But come on MSSA, get your facts straight at the very least!

    I hope someone from the MSSA actually reads this as I’m not about to write them a mail.

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    • Admiral Chief of Rivia

      October 4, 2013 at 12:01

      You are wasting words dude

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      • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

        October 4, 2013 at 12:03

        I know. But still. It’s embarrising.

        That would be like the game between the Springboks and the All Blacks tomorrow if we believed it was an international and the All Blacks believed it to be a friendly.

        Someone is going to walk away red faced and embarrassed. No different here. If the MSSA want to get our eSports international then they need to up their game in communication between other countries and make a more concerted effort to get the facts straight

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        • Admiral Chief of Rivia

          October 4, 2013 at 12:15

          Nice example

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        • Yep you are wrong! Shush

          October 4, 2013 at 12:37

          “embarrassing”

          Nicely scribed monsieur… +1

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          • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

            October 4, 2013 at 12:40

            Drat. It’s so embarrassing that I still to this day can’t spell embarrassing :'(

          • Matthew Holliday

            October 4, 2013 at 13:22

            Dont worry, I still cant spell “success” without singing that song from school sports days.

          • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

            October 4, 2013 at 13:24

            Lol I feel your pain. Don’t worry. You are not alone dude

        • Matthew Holliday

          October 4, 2013 at 13:09

          Or just stop using the term “Test match”

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          • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

            October 4, 2013 at 13:12

            That’s the point really. Call it what it is.

            Call a friendly a friendly.

            Call a test match a test match.

            But they are most certainly not interchangeable. Not if you want to be professional which I really do believe the MSSA wants to be. I honestly believe they have the best interest of eSports in SA at heart, but they need to start by being more “professional” and remember that dealing with international associations mean they need to be very careful and 100% sure of what they are posting.

          • Matthew Holliday

            October 4, 2013 at 13:20

            The issue Gavin is having with it is exactly that.

            The MSSA have been interchanging “Friendly” and “Test Match/Official” for years. They make such a big deal about everything they do being “official” or “legit”, but when they get disproved “its just a word”

          • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

            October 4, 2013 at 13:24

            Exactly! (wait, we are agreeing right? 😛 ) But yeah I think the whole thing went to the MSSA’s head and they lost the plot and tried to slap “official” on everything. Even the friendlies. *sigh* it really is embarrassing. I wonder what other international eSports organisations must think of us SA peeps 🙁

    • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

      October 4, 2013 at 12:24

      Absolutely, and very well put.

      Reply

  9. Fnuik

    October 4, 2013 at 11:58

    Personally I think this is getting a bit old. Who really gives a fuck. If the guys playing is happy then let it be.
    If the Boks are playing a game against the Barbarians and they decide to give the players a cap then so be it.

    Let the poor souls think they’ve accomplished something, even if everyone else knows they could just as easily sit at home and play against internationals.

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    • ThisIsBullShlt

      October 4, 2013 at 13:17

      Yeah, because things don’t need meaning.

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    • Marc O Polo

      October 5, 2013 at 06:59

      but it makes us look like frikken idiots to the rest of the world! if you are gonna run an organization run it properly!

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  10. Ricardo Harvey

    October 4, 2013 at 12:08

    I dont know guys…Yes MSSA arent doing the best job but, on the flip side, I dont see any other organisations making big headway in pushing Esports in SA. I want them to do it right as much as the next gamer but if we keep hitting them this hard they might just through in the towel and then whos going to take over?

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    • Seraphim

      October 4, 2013 at 12:10

      If they don’t take any blows then they’ll just go soft(er) and the current progress made in eSports in SA will collapse.

      Reply

    • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

      October 4, 2013 at 12:12

      The problem is if everyone let’s it slide they will eventually become a joke in the international scene and then hurt it more

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      • Ricardo Harvey

        October 4, 2013 at 12:14

        Our results in the international scene is a joke, not the fact that we get our wording wrong

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        • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

          October 4, 2013 at 12:17

          That kinda enforces the point that the MSSA need to up their game then

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          • ThisIsBullShlt

            October 4, 2013 at 13:20

            No, it’s gone on too long and they have no more legitimacy in the SA eSports arena. Just look at that web page. They need to pass up the sole authority that SASCOCK has given them do that eSports can continue unabated by those tasked to assist it.

          • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

            October 4, 2013 at 13:22

            This I have to kind of agree with. If the MSSA is not up to the task they need to let go so that someone else can.

            I know that we are all being overcritical. Sure. But if they want to be international then they need to live up to international level scrutiny.

            So I agree there. Although I do hope they can somehow come back from this all stronger and better

        • Matthew Holliday

          October 4, 2013 at 12:45

          thats because of our internet, not because of lack of local push.
          the amount of growth the local gaming scene has had in the past 5 years is ridiculous.

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    • Matthew Holliday

      October 4, 2013 at 12:45

      “I dont see any other organisations making big headway in pushing Esports in SA”
      You need to pay attention to pick it up:
      -R200 000 in prizes and 5 new PCs for each game at rAge this weekend.
      -Do gaming league tickets in the Dota 2 store
      -Do gaming bets in dota2lounge.com
      -Dendi coming to SA (cancelled, but will happen eventually)

      Dogaming, Steelseries and Alienware have all, individually, done more for the local esports scene in a year, than the MSSA has done in the past 10 years.

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      • Marc O Polo

        October 5, 2013 at 07:23

        now imagine what could be achieved with a proper national Esports organization teaming up with sponsors?

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  11. Unavengedavo (aka. Frik)

    October 4, 2013 at 12:10

    I read the 1st line of the other article: “Mind Sports South Africa is proud to announce the first ever tri-nations League of Legends test match in which South Africa will participate.”

    This could not necessarily mean that they claim to be the 1st to host a tri-nation, it could also be interpreted as the 1st tri-nation that South Africa is participating in?

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    • Han Cilliers

      October 4, 2013 at 12:16

      You are indeed correct

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    • Gavin Mannion

      October 4, 2013 at 12:25

      The press release states “For this reason the MSSA, with a great deal of help from both MWEB and the IeSF have structured the first ever on-line Tri-Nations Test Match.”

      MWEB possibly worded it correctly.My issue with Gamezone was them agreeing it was a valid test match

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      • Unavengedavo (aka. Frik)

        October 4, 2013 at 12:31

        O, sorry. Seems like they changed it…

        Edit: I read the press release on Gamezone which is not the same, do you have a link to the original?

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      • Caden

        October 4, 2013 at 13:18

        Some kind of article/link to the fact that Colin is leaving Mind Sports?

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  12. Meh

    October 4, 2013 at 12:15

    This story is waaaaay past its expiry date.

    What I enjoy about this site is being able to read about new games & consoles, see reviews and random interesting gamer-related info. This just seems to have moved from real reporting with any value to a bit of personal nit-picking in my opinion.

    E-sports is still growing and you cannot expect every country to have an official federation because there is simply not enough interest. Maybe we should look at the value of the series as opposed to the precise definition of a “test” or who was first to have a tri-nations series. We are fortunate that people are actually taking an interest in e-sports in this country!!!

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    • Gavin Mannion

      October 4, 2013 at 12:30

      It’s not about other countries having official federations.. it’s about not lying to the gaming public. It’s not acceptable.

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      • Meh

        October 4, 2013 at 12:39

        Perhaps you should report this to the Advertising Authority (http://www.asasa.org.za/) if it is such a misrepresentation. They deal with these issues daily.

        Why waste your time reporting on this when you can occupy yourself with looking into something interesting? Then when they rule on it we can all move on with our lives and enjoy good stories about interesting gamer-related news!

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        • Gavin Mannion

          October 4, 2013 at 12:43

          it’s not an advert… it is being reported to SASCOC if that makes you feel better?

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          • Meh

            October 4, 2013 at 12:56

            Gavin, just try and see my comment for what it is. There is no need to analyse the facts in my comments because, I will be the first to admit I don’t actually care about this at all – neither do I profess to be an expert on classifying tests or ruling on misinformation.

            I am merely giving what i see as constructive criticism. I like this site. I enjoy the articles. BUT this particular issue just seems to get too much attention when there are more interesting things I would rather read about. Use it or not – I don’t have to read these articles and you don’t have to write anything interesting if we choose not to.
            * Yawn *

  13. Han Cilliers

    October 4, 2013 at 12:15

    To start..please spell my name correct :S It’s Han. Secondly, MWEB GameZone will issue a reply in the form of an article next week.

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    • Gavin Mannion

      October 4, 2013 at 12:20

      Sorry will update… got a mate called Hans and I type that too often..

      This articles more about the MSSA but feel free to do as you please

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    • Rags

      October 4, 2013 at 15:29

      So unless Gavin shows that those teams are not affiliated with the IeSF he is wrong. He is also wrong on what a friendly or what a test match is. He owes you an apology. His remarks in article and his reply ‘feel free to do as you please’ reeks of condensation as if you need his permission to speak your mind. Ha.

      I am no fan of the MSSA, but this is bs. And I am also going to say this as a long time fan of Lazygamer: Lately Gavin’s articles have been reactionary and baiting and his reviews particularly poor. Common you can do better!

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  14. Ricardo Harvey

    October 4, 2013 at 12:16

    Maybe we should come up with a list of pointers for MSSA to really improve things for Esport in SA, even things like i dont know, employing passionate gamers to run the show

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  15. impi

    October 4, 2013 at 12:18

    As usual, more retarded reporting.

    Gavin may know many things, but how sport works is not one of them.

    What a noob!

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    • Gavin Mannion

      October 4, 2013 at 12:19

      Yay my favourite friend is back.. I hope you right nice words about me again.

      Try clarify test match vs friendly.. I obviously don’t have the intelligence to figure it out

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      • Admiral Chief of Rivia

        October 4, 2013 at 12:20

        *write

        😛

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        • Hondsepop

          October 4, 2013 at 12:26

          Verb: If you right a situation or a mistake, you make it better or correct it.

          He hopes impi makes nice words about him better better – totally acceptable.

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      • impi

        October 4, 2013 at 12:28

        Gavin wrote: ” I hope you right nice words about me again.”

        Even though my first language is SeSotho, even I know that there is a difference between ‘right’ and ‘write’..

        Next time get it right – your article and spelling!

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        • Gavin Mannion

          October 4, 2013 at 12:31

          typo 🙂 it happens to the best of us.

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        • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

          October 4, 2013 at 12:39

          Inspector Detective Lazy‘s tool kit suggests that you might actually be the infamous man in question. I mean I get it, you have to defend yourself, but wouldn’t it be better to do so in an official capacity. That way, you can clear up any misconceptions, rather than let things fester under perceived or actual misinformation.

          Just a thought….

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  16. Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

    October 4, 2013 at 12:21

    Is Colin still suing Lagz or were those merely idle impotent threats?

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    • Admiral Chief of Rivia

      October 4, 2013 at 12:22

      I see it as that silly 2x R500 million Gupta suing joke

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    • Gavin Mannion

      October 4, 2013 at 12:22

      No official legal case was ever put forward

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      • Circuitflow

        October 4, 2013 at 12:33

        like he ever will!.. ALL DOOCHES make empty threats. and he is one BIG ONE!

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    • impi

      October 4, 2013 at 12:32

      From everything I have read, the MSSA never threatened Lazygamer with legal action.

      It all exists only in the mind of Mannion….

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      • Gavin Mannion

        October 4, 2013 at 12:37

        Like I said.. nothing official ever came through.

        On another note.. are you still planning on running for president of the MSSA?

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      • Unavengedavo (aka. Frik)

        October 4, 2013 at 12:41

        I think this counts as a legal threat? And by the way, be sure to tell him its called a BLOG not a blob… (source: http://www.lazygamer.co/south-africa/quick-mssa-updateround-5/)

        Dear Mr Mannion

        This is not the first time that you have printed a malicious article about the MSSA on your blob!

        Please note that the MSSA reserves its rights.

        I too need the following from you:

        The type of legal entity under which LazyGamer is operating,

        The address for service of notice, and

        The contact details for your legal counsel.

        I suggest that you get proper legal advice.

        I look forward to your prompt response.

        Best regards

        C A Webster

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    • Matthew Holliday

      October 4, 2013 at 12:38

      the MSSA corporate bullying is old news bro.

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  17. Circuitflow

    October 4, 2013 at 12:33

    LOL this is by far my fav article~!. If i was Colin i would hide my head in shame …DOOCH!

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  18. Sageville

    October 4, 2013 at 12:43

    I’m bored with the MSSA bashing.

    I’ve just accepted that MSSA is a wannabe organisation with an over-inflated view of themselves and some seriously horrid communication skills all run by someone that is showering his organization in controversy and shame .

    That been said do I feel LG has expended too much time on exposing such controversy, especially when the scope of said controversy is relatively mediocre, are we nit-picking sermantics and the meaning of words in press releases now?

    Either way MSSA articles hold no further interest for me, I have MSSA-fatigue.

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    • Gavin Mannion

      October 4, 2013 at 12:56

      Yeah I have the same issue with Pokemon articles and yet Darryn keeps posting them

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      • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

        October 4, 2013 at 13:04

        Hey! Leave my perkerrmonz alone!

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        • Unavengedavo (aka. Frik)

          October 4, 2013 at 13:08

          Carrot, I chose you?

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          • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

            October 4, 2013 at 13:09

            Hahahahaha

      • Sageville

        October 4, 2013 at 13:06

        Eish Gav, never touch on the scary Pokamom fanpeeps, they be old-skool and hardkore!

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        • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

          October 4, 2013 at 13:06

          Pffff. You’re just jealous 😛

          Reply

  19. Admiral Chief of Rivia

    October 4, 2013 at 13:20

    That head in sand pic makes me think of glorious UNTAG movie.

    “YOU CAN COME OUT NOW, THE WAR IS OVER!”

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    • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

      October 4, 2013 at 13:38

      Brilliant movie!

      Reply

  20. Rags

    October 4, 2013 at 13:37

    A test match with nothing on the line is called a friendly. lol

    Reply

    • Rags

      October 4, 2013 at 13:52

      To add if it is a tournament, which it seems to be then it is a test match. ZING!
      Sorry but Han is right.

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      • Gavin Mannion

        October 4, 2013 at 13:59

        How do you get to that decision? The definition of a test match is in the article

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        • Rags

          October 4, 2013 at 14:19

          Indeed it is. But you are trying to say that these are friendly matches. A friendly is a test match with nothing on the line. This is a tournament, so there is something on the line and should be called a test match.

          Israel’s national team will face world championship team in friendly matches against Denmark and selected South – Africa. Games will be broadcast live

          Let me change the emphasis: “Israel’s national team will face world championship team in friendly matches against Denmark and selected South – Africa. Games will be broadcast live

          So even if it is just a friendly(which it is not(a match between sports teams and especially international teams that has no connection with league or championship play)) it will still be a test match.

          If all teams are affiliated with IeSF. Then I fail to see what the issue is here?

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  21. WhiteRock

    October 4, 2013 at 13:37

    Aahhhh – the wonderful use of proper journalism and sarcasm combined – Well Done Gavin 🙂

    Reply

  22. Ultimo_Cleric N7

    October 4, 2013 at 13:47

    Colin leaving…… interesting times indeed. I really do hope the MSSA gets their ass in gear. I have never viewed the organisation iteslf as bad, only some of the desicions made.
    Come on MSSA, make us proud!

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    • Estian Hough

      October 7, 2013 at 17:50

      It’s a shame really that he’s being painted in such bad light (2013).
      He’s proven to me that he cares at least enough about our Gaming Community to have no interest other than to build and improve on it.
      He has provided incredible support to unknown gaming organizers. The good side of Colin just never gets to go online – because it doesn’t make great news.

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      • Ultimo_Cleric N7

        October 8, 2013 at 16:21

        That is a good point. I do suppose that he would never have been given the position if he DIDN’T have the passion for it. And bad news is big news unfortunately.
        I dont know Colin at all. The only thing I have to go is his interactions with the online community. And while there have been those that have been great, there have been quite a few that have been…well…..quite arrogant. Threatening to sue every time somebody does not agree with you is not a very endearing trait.
        Someone in his position needs to have a certain amount of professionalism to be cool under fire and respond REASONABLY.

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        • Estian Hough

          October 8, 2013 at 16:38

          I understand.
          I know Colin myself – and I find it highly irritating that he just never comments on or says anything to defend his viewpoint online. I honestly think that most people find him evil exactly because he just seems to be afk all the time.

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          • Ultimo_Cleric N7

            October 9, 2013 at 10:07

            Agreed. His silence makes him look guilty to the community he is serving.

  23. VinTaco

    October 6, 2013 at 20:24

    I would love to know who the SA team consists of.

    Good reporting as usual Gavin.

    Reply

  24. VinTaco

    October 6, 2013 at 20:24

    I would love to know who the SA team consists of.

    Good reporting as usual Gavin.

    Reply

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