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Star Citizen backer loses $4500 refund case thanks to the game’s cunning terms of service

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With tens of millions of dollars in the crowdfunding bank, Star Citizen was supposed to be the grand  spiritual successor to Wing Commander that fans had been patiently waiting years for. Instead, the current version of the game (and I use that term very loosely) is a collection of half-baked ideas and a benchmark for feature creep going too far.

Star Citizen today is no closer to realising its goals than it was five years ago, and that’s a shame for the people who provided the fiscal ground support for the project. Even worse, Star Citizen isn’t the game that many people backed, as its various modules have created something entirely different to what was originally envisioned and promised.

Take Ken Lord for instance, who backed the game to the tune of a staggering $4500. Lord had kept an eye on his investment, didn’t like how his contribution was being used and decided that enough was enough. Detailing how he attempted to get his money back, Lord explained that he first asked developer Roberts Space Industries for a refund and got denied the request due to it being way way past the 14-day limit on Kickstarter refunds.

Alright, fair enough. Lord then sent a letter to RSI, explaining that due to the fact that he lives with multiple sclerosis, he couldn’t play any parts of the game related to Squadron 42’S campaign, a first-person shooter module that had been added to the alpha build and is required to be played so that other content can be accessed. “My hands shake badly,” Lord said to Motherboard.

I have tremors… They just recently confirmed that you have to do the first-person shooter thing to get through Squadron 42. I can’t do that, I just can’t do that. So my money’s stuck in a game I can’t possibly play.

Any response would have been great, but Lord got met with a wall of silence as RSI decided to ignore him. What’s a fella to do? Lord decided to pursue the matter all the way to his small claims court, but his case was sadly thrown out as the court cited an arbitration clause in the game’s terms of service which was written specifically to protect RSI from litigation. Completely legal, unfortunately.

“If you and RSI are unable to resolve a Dispute through informal negotiations, either you or RSI may elect to have the Dispute (except those Disputes expressly excluded below) finally and exclusively resolved by binding arbitration. Any election to arbitrate by one party shall be final and binding on the other. YOU UNDERSTAND AND HEREBY AGREE THAT YOU HEREBY WAIVE THE RIGHT TO SUE IN COURT AND HAVE A JURY TRIAL,” the clause cleverly read.

Here’s where things get tricky. That specific clause is a 2013 addition, and wasn’t present in the 2012 terms of service that Lord and many other players agreed to. Does Lord have a leg to stand on when his TOS included the following line?

These Terms of Service (TOS) do not affect any transactions made before its effective date. All prior transactions are governed by the TOS in effect on the date of such transactions.

Nope, because RSI managed to argue that the new clause could be applied to payments made before it existed. According to Kotaku, Lord made several pledges over several years, with the majority of those investments falling under the umbrella of the newer TOS. “His pledges with new money on top of his earlier pledges required him to accept the new Terms of Service,” RSI said to Kotaku.

Long story short, Lord got screwed and is now stuck with a game he can’t even play while RSI cunningly updates their terms of service to protect them from anyone demanding a refund as the game sinks deeper and deeper into development hell, as PC Gamer detailed over here. In many ways, Star Citizen has become the video game equivalent of Christian evangelism: It has a charismatic way of attracting converts, it has plenty of zealous followers and it’s possibly the biggest scam ever seen since a lightbulb went off in the mind of Charles Ponzi.

Last Updated: July 19, 2018

110 Comments

  1. Gavin Mannion

    July 19, 2018 at 11:46

    Header image of the century

    Reply

  2. Gavin Mannion

    July 19, 2018 at 11:46

    Header image of the century

    Reply

    • Pariah

      July 19, 2018 at 11:51

      We’ll be able to tell the young folk when they don’t understand the reference.

      Reply

    • HvR

      July 19, 2018 at 11:58

      LOL and I watched a conspiracy video this morning that Warner Bros paid Jordon (knowing he had a lot of gambling debts)to retire the first time for the sole purpose of making the movie

      Reply

    • MaSeKind

      July 19, 2018 at 12:04

      Surely you mean “header image of the previous century” ???

      Reply

      • Pariah

        July 19, 2018 at 12:30

        No, the header image was created in this one. 😛

        Reply

  3. Admiral Chief

    July 19, 2018 at 11:49

    Oh dear…

    Reply

  4. MaSeKind

    July 19, 2018 at 11:52

    Also, cunning is not the word I’d use for these people. Start with the same letters though

    Reply

    • Pariah

      July 19, 2018 at 11:53

      Would you like some T with that?

      Reply

      • MaSeKind

        July 19, 2018 at 11:56

        Only problem is it doesn’t say so lekker as the Capey version

        Reply

        • For the Emperor!

          July 19, 2018 at 11:57

          Ma se cunning…yup, doesn’t sound so lekkerrrr

          Reply

  5. Original Heretic

    July 19, 2018 at 12:00

    They can’t refund him because they’ve already spent the money on drugs and hookers.
    Maybe. Pure conjecture from my part.

    Reply

    • cloudzn

      July 19, 2018 at 12:23

      You remember that report by Escapist Magazine about how they were misusing funds, thats start to feel more and more accurate

      Reply

      • Joe Blobers

        July 19, 2018 at 16:09

        You mean from the journalist who got fired? Who said also among nice prophecy that SC will collapse in 2015 or 2016 max?

        The Escapist that on October 21, 2017, announced in an open letter that all paid employees of the site had been laid off except one?

        Yea I remember, Very accurate piece of journalism… with 2015 internet standard. The scam was super strong already 🙂

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      • HotNSpicy

        July 19, 2018 at 17:11

        Archive links to the two controversial Escapist articles and Chris Roberts’ bonkers response are here: https://www.oneangrygamer.net/2017/03/controversial-star-citizen-articles-removed-from-the-escapist/27419/

        Or check out Mandalore’s video summary here: https://youtu.be/IHUbzzKJXBc?t=14m55s

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      • Joe Blobers

        July 19, 2018 at 16:09

        You mean from the journalist who got fired? Who said also among nice prophecy that SC will collapse in 2015 or 2016 max?

        The Escapist that on October 21, 2017, announced in an open letter that all paid employees of the site had been laid off except one?

        Yea I remember, Very accurate piece of journalism… with 2015 internet standard. The scam was super strong already 🙂

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        • cloudzn

          July 19, 2018 at 18:54

          I heard about how toxic Star Citizen Fanboys get but in all honesty it is a complete scam and the fact you still defend RSI shows how blind you are

          Reply

          • Joe Blobers

            July 19, 2018 at 19:33

            You mean blind like the Escapist that shrink to one single or the one who refer to them like a proof of… their own failure and blindness? 🙂

          • repool

            July 19, 2018 at 20:37

            every response is met with “you mean like” lmfao. Your insecurities are showing if the Escapist is your best pride and joy go to. Search youtube for “The history of lies Star Citizen”

          • repool

            July 19, 2018 at 20:37

            every response is met with “you mean like” lmfao. Your insecurities are showing if the Escapist is your best pride and joy go to. Search youtube for “The history of lies Star Citizen”

          • cloudzn

            July 20, 2018 at 13:23

            Lol seriously , stop trying so hard to defend this bullshit

          • Joe Blobers

            July 23, 2018 at 08:10

            Why? You call for the Escapist and I remember all how turn The Escapist web site and journalist who did made those “revelation”. CIG is sill here in 2018, stronger has never, with a clear SC roadmap.

            Stop trying so hard to defend those who failed so badly.

          • cloudzn

            July 23, 2018 at 17:22

            Lol seriously a road map with more delays

          • Kathleen

            January 9, 2019 at 09:10

            you’re out of your mind. I play test the game and it’s AWESOME! They are doing exactly what they said they were going to do. You besties with some jealous devs or what?!

      • HotNSpicy

        July 19, 2018 at 17:11

        Archive links to the two controversial Escapist articles and Chris Roberts’ bonkers response are here: https://www.oneangrygamer.net/2017/03/controversial-star-citizen-articles-removed-from-the-escapist/27419/

        Or check out Mandalore’s video summary here: https://youtu.be/IHUbzzKJXBc?t=14m55s

        Reply

    • HvR

      July 19, 2018 at 13:00

      Yes but that is research for the soon to be announced Companion Inara module that is to be added to the game.

      Reply

    • sumd00d

      July 19, 2018 at 15:51

      • Kathleen

        January 9, 2019 at 09:10

        so? The guy isn’t entitled to any time off??? You ppl are insane

        Reply

        • cloudzn

          January 10, 2019 at 12:40

          Who the hell are you and why are you defending them so damn hard

          Reply

  6. For the Emperor!

    July 19, 2018 at 12:49

    I backed the Battletech game. It was a small amount, so I took the gamble. But $4500 – you should have gone to Vegas son, would have gotten more out of it

    Reply

  7. Yondaime

    July 19, 2018 at 12:52

    “Now that we no longer need your money, you can go fly a Kite” – Star Citizen

    Reply

  8. Francois Knoetze

    July 19, 2018 at 13:35

    and in other news not so obvious: Red Pandas are linked to the Yakuza crime syndicate ring south of Durban. Wielding pitchforks powered by yellow fear crystals, their plans to take over the local sushi central distribution network will be achieved soon!! MUAHAHAHAAH!!! This does sound more plausible than A`) Star Citizen ever releasing and B) not being the biggest hedgefund-like gaming scam in history.

    Reply

  9. Joe Blobers

    July 19, 2018 at 13:38

    Except that reality is a bit different because indeed, the plaintiff use its desease to look defenless…

    He is not and far to be a candid poor little guy discovering SQ42 and SC. More a coldbrain thinker person based on its comments here and there.

    The guy keep pledging during years. He was also Evocati (so very close of Devs) and now pretend MS (sclerosi) does not allow to play anymore….

    Everybody know MS never get better with time as well as 2 Triple-A won’t never deliver in a couple of years…

    FPS (Star marine was announced in 2014… and he is now claiming in 2018 it is not acceptable because MS does not allow FPS…. BS

    The judge after 3 hours audience will ALL info (TOS and plaintiff situation):

    >A county judge agreed with RSI, cutting off Lord’s hopes for a refund<

    Same TOS applied by a 125 millions active accounts company: Steam

    CIG by applying TOS (finally!) is protecting others Backers of potential malign action.

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    • LightsOut

      July 19, 2018 at 16:50

      ” the plaintiff use its desease to look defenless…” Lie.
      “now pretend MS (sclerosi) does not allow to play anymore….” Lie
      “The judge after 3 hours audience will ALL info (TOS and plaintiff situation)” Lie (you have zero idea about how long it lasted).

      You are absolutely disgusting for raging on a gentleman with a serious medical condition. But I wouldn’t expect anything different from a psychotic member of the Star Citizen community.

      Reply

    • Gavin Mannion

      July 19, 2018 at 15:06

      Interesting to see the loyal SC backers are dwindling. Space Scam indeed

      Reply

      • Joe Blobers

        July 19, 2018 at 16:00

        Not sure if you use dwindling to say there are less backers today than a month ago… but technically the plaintiff is still a backer 🙂

        Flag it as scam until it is in Beta or even full release. You can even repeat it at each quarterly patch to be delivered. There is not a single comment section articles since 5 years without several shooting either scam, collapse, Ponzi scheme, vaporware, jpges… if not all at once:)

        That never stopped funding to grow from 12M$ to 190M$ and accounts from 100K to +2M so with quarterly patch releasing more gameplay, contents and performance improvement… I let you guess the inpact 🙂

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        • Jacques d'Orleans

          July 19, 2018 at 17:49

          Hey Joe Blobers, how much US shekels are you in? Must have a reason you
          writing in every comment section in the Interwebz just to defends CR. Or are you paid by the hour?

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        • repool

          July 19, 2018 at 17:03

          Yet the only game studio to find a way to sell scope creep over 6+ years. They don’t sell a game anymore, they sell scope creep and jpegs. “haters” aren’t lying by calling what they’re doing out.

          They’ve successfully found a way to sell scope creep and if the business model is successful in keeping the lights on, I look forward to seeing you in the verse in 2039. Though It may be my grand kids by then playing you.

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      • Palonto

        July 19, 2018 at 18:33

        Nice comment, short and pointless…

        Reply

    • LightsOut

      July 19, 2018 at 16:50

      ” the plaintiff use its desease to look defenless…” Lie.
      “now pretend MS (sclerosi) does not allow to play anymore….” Lie
      “The judge after 3 hours audience will ALL info (TOS and plaintiff situation)” Lie (you have zero idea about how long it lasted).

      You are absolutely disgusting for raging on a gentleman with a serious medical condition. But I wouldn’t expect anything different from a psychotic member of the Star Citizen community.

      Reply

      • Joe Blobers

        July 19, 2018 at 19:27

        1 minute, 1 day, I don’t care how much time audience took. Fact is that audience took 3 hours, writen in one of the others article around or by the plaintiff himself.

        I sympathize toward anyone having a disease and this not an excuse toward your remark. I don’t care about what you can throw to me guy…

        I have disabled people in my company. People with handicap or disease want one thing before all: to be seen like normal human, because this is exactly what they are.
        Which mean they can fall also in very human category including criminal, thief, felon, cunning coldbrainer and the whole pallet of human behavior. Good and Bad.

        You see a gentleman by reading his prose in an internet comment section? Good for you, still you have zero clue about who he is. Anyway, whatever can do CIG or CR is always terrible, worst than before for you. This is your agenda since years. You are as objective as a Taliban talking about Democracy 🙂

        But what he did, actions after actions is total bullshit, through reddit first to indirectly threat CIG and finally the claim.

        Again Court did have ALL in hands. He got what he asked for, a Court decision.

        Not happy? He still can go to arbitration. Consumers rights preserved. The guy is not defenless, at all.

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      • Dementropy

        July 19, 2018 at 18:00

        LightsOut is one of the few who made it to Joe’s list of enemies:

        https://sctrollsdump.wordpress.com/manze/

        Or is it a “hit list?”

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      • Palonto

        July 19, 2018 at 18:37

        Ah.. And yet he is right. Why would you use your disease to get money back from a company? he says it right there! in his own words!

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        • Michael Lemm

          July 19, 2018 at 23:20

          Gee a backer with a degenerative disease, removing the bs blinder of Chris’s ‘next year’ from his eyes.

          The project is months away from 3x the original projection and looks like it could easily hit 4x before it MIGHT attain a ‘beta’ equivalent state and your indignation is towards the guy with the disease.

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          • Joe Blobers

            July 20, 2018 at 08:47

            Not toward the guy with a disease, toward a guy which clearly sounds to use tricks to f;.. up others backers by requesting a refund he is not entitled to get.

            Confirm by Court. Move on.

            Keep your disease excuse in your pocket. This is meritless. A guy with a disease in not defacto a poor defenseless little thing with no potential malign behavior.

          • Michael Lemm

            July 20, 2018 at 08:51

            Typical Joe, talking out of your arse in complete ignorance. All the court did was assert that the arbitration clause stands and small claims means, jack. It doesn’t set any actual precedence.

          • Palonto

            August 1, 2018 at 17:39

            Sure.. you can twist and turn in all the bends you want. They guy bought 4000+ dollars in ships and claims he is only interested in squadron 42. That’s does not cost 4500 dollars.

            The guy is a fraud and an idiot.

      • Joe Blobers

        July 19, 2018 at 19:27

        1 minute, 1 day, I don’t care how much time audience took. Fact is that audience took 3 hours, writen in one of the others article around or by the plaintiff himself.

        I sympathize toward anyone having a disease and this not an excuse toward your remark. I don’t care about what you can throw to me guy…

        I have disabled people in my company. People with handicap or disease want one thing before all: to be seen like normal human, because this is exactly what they are.
        Which mean they can fall also in very human category including criminal, thief, felon, cunning coldbrainer and the whole pallet of human behavior. Good and Bad.

        You see a gentleman by reading his prose in an internet comment section? Good for you, still you have zero clue about who he is. Anyway, whatever can do CIG or CR is always terrible, worst than before for you. This is your agenda since years. You are as objective as a Taliban talking about Democracy 🙂

        But what he did, actions after actions is total bullshit, through reddit first to indirectly threat CIG and finally the claim.

        Again Court did have ALL in hands. He got what he asked for, a Court decision.

        Not happy? He still can go to arbitration. Consumers rights preserved. The guy is not defenless, at all.

        Reply

        • repool

          July 19, 2018 at 20:51

          Joe, take a breath, and read this for a minute then read your post…

          “He still can go to arbitration. Consumers rights preserved. The guy is not defenless, at all.”

          Yet you feel CIG is defenseless enough to…. *GASP* defend them everywhere.

          Wait what…? So he’s not, CIG are. Check…I’ll note that. Guess they aren’t healthy enough to stand on their own merit. If they were, you wouldn’t feel this righteous need to defend their honor.

          As I said, those insecurities are showing

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          • Joe Blobers

            July 20, 2018 at 08:31

            Any TOS is subject to apply everywhere in full force (with variants depending on county law). That have nothing to do about any kind of honor or merit but precisely, to enforce to everyone what are the limit for all parties, I.E., a contract.

            CIG is faulty of one thing. Not have enforced their TOS before and let some think that whaever their actions, that will ends up with a refund.

            It is over and the message is crystal clear.

            Applied to 125 active accounts by Steam right now today. If you do not want to agree with TOS… don’t signed it! 🙂

          • repool

            July 20, 2018 at 18:15

            That had absolutely nothing to do with my response. You’re still in shrill mode. Turn it off and go read again.

          • Joe_Blober

            July 21, 2018 at 07:46

            Call my “mode” whatever you want. Remember, nobody read comments as per mod. Who care if it is to the point or not… 🙂

          • WhateverYouSay

            July 20, 2018 at 15:12

            No need to reply to this Joe guy, he’s also posting on gamesindustry.biz, there he claims to be an employee of a Pakistani company, clearly this guy’s getting paid by CIG to appear everywhere and defend the game, says that the game is getting better with every patch, you must be blind to say that, still in 3.2.0 it runs at max 10-15 fps, after more than 6 years in development it says it all.

          • kensaundm31

            July 20, 2018 at 17:38

            Dude, get real. nobody reads these hate–filled comment sections except D Smart bum boys. i only read them for a passing moment for fun like watching monkeys fling poo at the wall, it’s kind of funny to see all you misinformed hater trolls spout the same tired old bs, like jpegs that I can already fly and land on moons in unmatched detail.

            I see all the ATV, RTV and am content to see that progress is being made, none of you clowns even know what this is do you?

          • WhateverYouSay

            July 20, 2018 at 18:01

            Progress is measured in-game and not in YT-Vids, played 3.2.0 yesterday and it is not playable with a high-end PC, super low framerate and janky controls when flying a ship, nearly getting motion-sick. But keep on watching the vids, put on the rose-tinted glasses and believe what they tell you. I don’t care what they say or anybody, I go and play the game myself.
            Bottom line is that it’s a horrible experience. Period.

          • Joe_Blober

            July 22, 2018 at 12:02

            It is +30fps for everyone now but you can’t get more than 10-15 fps… plus motion sickness. never thought aboutlooking for an exorcist? 🙂

            I got 30 with a 5 years old PC including GTX780 3GB. And it is in no way a released product with a year and half of optimization before probable Beta end of 2019.

            If you want to get fluid experience… go play a finished game. There are plenty around… still none of them approach SC scope. Period..

          • Joe_Blober

            July 22, 2018 at 12:08

            Quote: “says that the game is getting better with every patch”

            You must be blind to not see it.. or have the worst PC ever, Not only performance improve for everyone but gameplay and contents is added.

            You can jump in all direction but current roadmap does not leave any chance to nay-sayers or blind individual. That’s the beauty of game development. Starting from scratch to build together a game nobody will ever release by publishers.

  10. Gr8_Balls_o_Fire

    July 19, 2018 at 14:31

    Should’ve spent a bit more time reading, bub.

    Reply

  11. Guz

    July 19, 2018 at 14:37

    They shot for the stars but all they did was crash and burn

    Reply

    • Pariah

      July 19, 2018 at 15:51

      Nobody predicted this. Nope. Nobody. At all.

      Reply

  12. Geoffrey Tim

    July 19, 2018 at 14:48

    Breaking News: Cloud Imperium Games and Roberts Space Industries will supply its top-tier Star Citizen backers with new handheld Star Citizen consoles for free. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a885cd92d3a3879972096d715a312dcf5355b5381036ec4dd65e01be3a1c4a1d.jpg

    Reply

    • Joe Blobers

      July 19, 2018 at 16:04

      You got my upvote!

      Next they can just propose automatic debit… Damned they did already. I am a subscriber 🙂

      Reply

  13. Palonto

    July 19, 2018 at 18:28

    Ooooh look at all the misinformed bandwagon idiots!

    A guy who claims to have no knowledge about FPS (it was in the Kickstarter pitch people! ) said he only bought the game for S42, but bought 4500$ worth of PU ships.

    He goes on youtube saying he is going to screw over CIG and is surprised when they kick his ass out of court? Really? Then uses his disease to give a sob story to the media and tries to discredit CIG and Cloud imperium?

    Normally I’m all for refunds, especially if someone is in peril. But this douche bag does not deserve one.

    Reply

    • sumd00d

      July 19, 2018 at 18:49

      Astroturf account created expressly for defending Star Citizen’s honor. Has only ever posted on Scam Citizen articles.

      What reputation management company do you work for?

      Reply

    • sumd00d

      July 19, 2018 at 18:49

      Astroturf account created expressly for defending Star Citizen’s honor. Has only ever posted on Scam Citizen articles.

      What reputation management company do you work for?

      Reply

      • Palonto

        August 1, 2018 at 17:52

        The “kick the lying shits in the balls” companies. So spread them honey!

        Reply

        • sumd00d

          August 1, 2018 at 18:08

          It took you 2 weeks to come up with that? lmao, no wonder you give a con man all your money.

          Reply

          • Palonto

            August 1, 2018 at 18:20

            No… Unlike you, I have other things to do. I am not consumed by hate and despair.

          • sumd00d

            August 1, 2018 at 19:21

            “I have other things to do.”

            Like shill for a scam.

    • Michael Lemm

      July 19, 2018 at 23:15

      Congratulations on demonstrating your failure in reading comprehension. FPS as a requirement of ‘perfomance’ impacting muster out of SQ42 was not part of the KS.

      Reply

      • Joe Blobers

        July 20, 2018 at 08:35

        FPS portion announced in 2014. He could had requested a refund at this time… but no. The guy kept pledging +60 times till 2018. So he is also blind? That would explain why he can’t read TOS…

        Reply

        • Michael Lemm

          July 20, 2018 at 08:46

          Give us the date and link where Chris stated that FPS gameplay would be a req of how a character mustered out of SQ42 then try to grok that we are 7 months into 2018 and no longer in 2014.
          Then show us a breakdown of precisely when each of these ’60’ exchanges took place, and what they were… ie: Ship purchases, CCU’s, subscription etc Joe.

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          • Joe Blobers

            July 20, 2018 at 08:53

            The plaintiff gave a box of documents to support exactly what you request for…

            We know the result.

            Now go to Court and explain them how to apply law to this precise case.. 🙂

          • Michael Lemm

            July 20, 2018 at 08:57

            Show us the video of the Judge actually reading all the documents then provide the data queried in my post above Joe.

            Then read the court summary again moron…

          • Joe_Blober

            July 20, 2018 at 09:13

            Do you lost yours nerves already Michael?… chill-down that’s just the start 🙂
            I have nothing to provide but:

            A county judge agreed with RSI, cutting off Lord’s hopes for a refund

            Ask the Court for a video 🙂

          • Michael Lemm

            July 20, 2018 at 09:22

            . The judge granted/enforced the ARBITRATION you moron… you need to read the court docs and quit relying on hearsay via cherry picked articles Joe.

          • Joe_Blober

            July 20, 2018 at 09:33

            So you had the court decision…:)

            We all knew arbitration is granted… and also that plaintiff don’t know what to do next because clearly… its attempt to intimidate CIG failed and he knows for sure they won’t give up.

            Consumers rights preserved. Law in full force. Swallow it.

          • Michael Lemm

            July 20, 2018 at 09:39

            Riiiiight, him and his whole sub 5k claim to ‘intimidate’ CIG and their 190+ mil.

          • Joe_Blober

            July 20, 2018 at 10:25

            Yep. Intimidating attempt while those 5K does not belong to him anymore nor the 190M$ 🙂
            Court answered him. Arbitration is possible. Move on.

          • yikes

            July 21, 2018 at 08:11

            How much are CIG paying you? A look around this comment section and you can see who posts the most defending every single post.

            Jesus you’re obsessed. You know this “game” isn’t an alternative to real life right? It’s just a game. You have absolutely no idea wtf you’re talking about in every post you make. I’m starting to think you’re among the “haters” pretending to be a fan.

            Why?

            Because you’re making the game and the community around it look insane.

          • Palonto

            August 1, 2018 at 17:52

            Wow.. question the Judge? you are a getting dumber with each and every comment. .

            Please stop embarrassing yourself.

          • Palonto

            August 1, 2018 at 17:52

            Wow.. question the Judge? you are a getting dumber with each and every comment. .

            Please stop embarrassing yourself.

          • Michael Lemm

            August 1, 2018 at 20:22

            Maybe you should stop embarrassing yourself by demonstrating your inability to read.

  14. Robert Löfgren

    July 19, 2018 at 22:48

    I really shouldnt’ because I know I won’t change anyones mind, haters being haters I guess, but still, I’m going to try to give my perspective.

    1. The guy pledges $4500 on a game. Let that sink in.
    2. Dog fighting is ok but first person shooting is impossible? Um…
    3. They put out quarterly patches with -a lot- of content, and while I do admit performance has been an issue, patch 3.2 is def. a step in the right direction.
    4. There’s, I don’t know what, 3 dev videos a week on their youtube channel showing what they’re working on. How transparent do they have to get to not get called scammers?

    Still, some people just love to hate the game, why? I’ve had a lot of fun with the current content and I’m looking forward to future content.

    Reply

  15. Sky Software

    July 19, 2018 at 22:00

    Just something i made for when it derails of the tracks. This is how i imagine Turkey kneck Chris reacting.

    https://www.captiongenerator.com/991732/WHEN-STAR-CITIZEN-FINALLY-FAILS

    Reply

  16. Fundamentalist Daleks

    July 19, 2018 at 22:35

    Chris Roberts is goddamn repulsive. An oily tick with diarrhea of the mouth, I don’t understand how any of his cult cope with that hideous voice on top of years and years of lies and broken promises.

    Reply

  17. PestControl

    July 20, 2018 at 08:50

    Wow… this has more salt than the Great Salt Lake…

    Reply

  18. WhateverYouSay

    July 20, 2018 at 14:32

    Still not sure how some people can defend this game, the performance is abysmal and extremely bad!!!

    Seriously people, forget about what the article or I say, go and try out the game for yourself.
    Worst experience ever I have had in the last decade easily. Took me 20 minutes to get into the game!
    I have an i7 4790k, 24GB Ram, NV GTX970, fibreglass-highspeed-internet of the finest.
    Constant lags, fps drops, flight model was the jankiest flight model I have ever seen in any game.

    I am still amazed how you can defend this and say that massive updates and performance improvements are coming out, this is at best Pre-Alpha, doesn’t even deserve Alpha name.
    Btw, tested on 3.2.0, what a joke of a game.

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    • Joe Blobers

      July 23, 2018 at 12:08

      Nobody is swallowing your hate guy. Game is available for free by everyone several times per year. Unless using a 10 years old PC with 4 mg and a 3DFx GPU board, Nobody ever had to wait 20 minutes to get in game…

      I usea I5 x4cores + GTX 780 + 1440P monitor anf got consistent 30FPS in 3.2. No one on Reddit/SC valid your “experience”. Beside this gross obfuscation, if you can’t swallow bugs in Alpha… just wait for release… yes we know in 2050 or never 🙂 Try harder.

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  19. Kathleen

    January 9, 2019 at 09:01

    Terms were pretty clear if you ask me… and why on earth they would donate that much and then take it back for a game that promises to be phenomenal I have no idea. SMH

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