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Twitter attacks Polygon reporter over being offended

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There is no easy way to discuss this topic, so I’m just going to jump into it and prepare for the hatred that may come. People were offended by the way a Polygon reporter handled criticism over his reporting of Vlambeer apologizing for perceived pro-Nazi symbolism in his new game Luftrausers. Twitter proceeded to explode and attack the journalist.

It all started last Friday when Vlambeer was made aware that people thought Luftrausers put you in the shoes of a Nazi in the Luftwaffe. This led to a public apology from Vlambeer in which he explained that even though it wasn’t the intention of the game at all, creators have to take responsibility for perceived meanings as well. He apologized profusely, even pointing to the fact that the developers are Dutch and aware of how upsetting Nazi imagery could be for some people.

The fact is that no interpretation of a game is ‘wrong’. When you create something, you leave certain implications of what you’re making. We can leave our idea of what it is in there, and for us, the game is about superweapons. We think everybody who plays LUFTRAUSERS can feel that.

But even more so in an interactive medium, we do have to accept that no way of reading those implications is ‘false’ – that if someone reads between the lines where we weren’t writing, those voids can be filled by the player, or someone else. If we accept there’s no wrong interpretation of a work, we also have to accept that some of those interpretations could not be along the lines of what we’re trying to create.

Over the weekend, Owen Good reported on this apology for Polygon. He was approached about this on twitter, and made the comment that caused social media to explode:

Being offended is a choice. Now, some things make that a very easy and reasonable choice. But it’s always a choice.

I actually only know about his exact words thanks to a screen grab – the abuse from “offended” people was so dramatic that he actually deleted his tweets. I found most of the twitter hate through Elizabeth Simins, who describes herself with the following bio:

comics, games, colors, cats, etc. // i think she is basically the Glinda the Good Witch of feminist gaming culture

She was one of the people offended by the use of Nazi aesthetic in the game. This ended up being redirected into some strange anti-white male view of reporting that honestly offends me.

Sure, Good might have handled the situation better, but the vitriol spewed in his direction is such a sign of manufactured rage. How many of those people were honestly upset, and how many felt that they should be offended? Also, why do we need to placate people just because they are offended? As Louis CK explains, it’s as if people think they have a right, “freedom from being offended” or something. The reality is, anything can offend people.

Vlambeer saw this was the case and apologized – why couldn’t the story just end there? In essence, it’s a situation where people raised concerns and a company replied intelligently and compassionately. Unfortunately, one journalist’s reporting on the matter (and the comments that followed) offended people even more, turning into a discussion about cis-gender, race, and all things offensive.

Sure, some people are offended that Good wasn’t offended. I’ve been there – I’ve been attacked for not being offended by perceived anti-woman/anti-feminist comments, games or culture. People are allowed to get offended for any reason; I myself can get offended for various and unpredictable reasons. That said, just because I’m offended doesn’t mean that I have a right to go on the offensive and attack someone. I may want to point out that something that was said/done offended me, but to expect anything more is unrealistic.

I’m sure I’m offending people with this article. While I apologize for causing offense, that doesn’t change the fact that I believe the words I’ve written – Owen Good reported on Vlambeer making a heartfelt and well written apology. People were offended by his reporting and turned it into a person attack. That offends me as a journalist, and a human being.

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Last Updated: April 7, 2014

110 Comments

  1. Admiral Chief Railjack

    April 7, 2014 at 10:07

    That “I’m rather offended by this” quote.

    Hehehe, golden

    Reply

  2. Alien Emperor Trevor

    April 7, 2014 at 10:11

    “just because I’m offended does mean” Did you mean doesn’t?

    Reply

    • Her Highness the Hipster

      April 7, 2014 at 10:23

      indeed! well spotted – fixed. thanks! 🙂

      Reply

      • Alien Emperor Trevor

        April 7, 2014 at 11:09

        See, I do read what people say. Then I go off on a tangent because it’s more entertaining… for me. 😀

        Reply

        • Her Highness the Hipster

          April 7, 2014 at 11:42

          oh wait, bad response…
          “i’m offended that you would point out typos! and tangents offend me! do you know who i am? RAGE RAGE RAGE”

          Reply

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            April 7, 2014 at 11:48

            Typical woman, can’t make up her mind. Knit me a sweater, but not in the kitchen because I don’t want a wool sammich!

  3. Rince

    April 7, 2014 at 10:12

    This article offends me…

    Reply

    • Alien Emperor Trevor

      April 7, 2014 at 10:13

      Your face is offensive!

      Reply

      • Rince

        April 7, 2014 at 10:18

        YOUR FACE GAWD DIK!

        Reply

        • Alien Emperor Trevor

          April 7, 2014 at 10:19

          How rude. I meant that in a nice way. I’m offended that you misunderstood that.

          Reply

          • Rince

            April 7, 2014 at 10:19

            And I am offended that you didn’t mean to offend me! OFFENCE CHARGE!

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            April 7, 2014 at 10:22

            Who cares. Prick.

          • Rince

            April 7, 2014 at 10:27

            Dik

          • Admiral Chief Railjack

            April 7, 2014 at 10:27

            Need a room with all this penile talk?

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            April 7, 2014 at 10:28

            Are you calling me fat? 🙁

          • Rince

            April 7, 2014 at 10:35

            YES

          • Gavin Mannion

            April 7, 2014 at 10:25

            I’m offended that you lot don’t have something better to do..

            No wait, no I’m not

          • Rince

            April 7, 2014 at 10:27

            *Ad block engaged*

          • Sir Rants A Lot Llew. Jelly!!!

            April 7, 2014 at 11:03

            I’m offended that you think we have nothing better to do. Such as listening to Nel grilling a pathologist

          • Admiral Chief Railjack

            April 7, 2014 at 10:19

            I’m offended by your offensive offensiveness

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            April 7, 2014 at 10:22

            And I’m offended that you’re offended by my offended offensiveness that came about by his offensive comment regarding my non-offensive comment in response to his offensiveness.

  4. Alien Emperor Trevor

    April 7, 2014 at 10:13

    I see nothing wrong with Good’s point. It’s fucking true.

    The irony is so strong you could build you could build a bridge with it.

    Reply

    • Rince

      April 7, 2014 at 10:35

      “The irony is so strong you could build you could build a bridge with it” really? Like, two bridges?

      Reply

      • Alien Emperor Trevor

        April 7, 2014 at 10:38

        Yes. Also, shut up!

        Reply

        • Rince

          April 7, 2014 at 10:39

          Tehehehe

          Reply

        • Sir Rants A Lot Llew. Jelly!!!

          April 7, 2014 at 11:00

          I’m offended that you would use such calm and kind words on Rince

          Reply

          • Rince

            April 7, 2014 at 11:12

            Oi!

          • Sir Rants A Lot Llew. Jelly!!!

            April 7, 2014 at 11:36

            nk?

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            April 7, 2014 at 11:49

            I’m laughing at that way more than I probably should.

          • Sir Rants A Lot Llew. Jelly!!!

            April 7, 2014 at 11:58

            Glad I could make you laugh on a Monday 🙂

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            April 7, 2014 at 11:25

            My mom taught me not to be mean to animals.

  5. Half-Minute Hero [Umar]

    April 7, 2014 at 10:14

    Just wana say….While I’m going to sound rude. These people are fucking idiots….Seriously. Now a days my twitter feed is filled with people pushing agendas and opinions down your throat. From Atheist to pro-religion. Gender and race wars, social class. While I get these things are important. FOR THE GODS ABOVE ME, I BESEECH THEE TO HELP THESE PITIFUL FOOLS……Stop turning every god damn thing into a controversy…I’m so sick of it. I just want to go on twitter and enjoy random motivational tweets about love and holding hands or some shizz like that..

    What I see here. is a bandwagon. And all I see are sheep , jumping on it. Bloody sheep just see something brewing and wants to add a few cents worth of fuel…sod off

    Reply

    • Alien Emperor Trevor

      April 7, 2014 at 10:16

      I agree. Hold the hand of someone you love, or I’ll kill you.

      Reply

      • Half-Minute Hero [Umar]

        April 7, 2014 at 10:17

        Such an offensive statement. I choose not to be offended in an effort to not seem contradictory

        Reply

        • Alien Emperor Trevor

          April 7, 2014 at 10:17

          Aw 🙁

          Reply

  6. Rags

    April 7, 2014 at 10:16

    Feminazi’s.

    Reply

    • Javthing

      April 7, 2014 at 15:52

      FemRäusers?

      Reply

  7. Admiral Chief Railjack

    April 7, 2014 at 10:18

    So glad I quit the twitters

    Reply

  8. Admiral Chief Railjack

    April 7, 2014 at 10:19

    Back in the old days, if you had a silly view or opinion about someone / something, at least the rest of the world was spared

    Reply

    • Alien Emperor Trevor

      April 7, 2014 at 10:20

      True. The more people talking, the less knowledge.

      Reply

    • Double-O-Six and a half

      April 7, 2014 at 15:16

      Empty vessels… and all that… unfortunately TwitFaceBook (and LG…) has created a platform for anybody and everybody to view their opinion whethr it counts or not…
      For example, I just shared my opinion and I would be totally un-offended if nobody read it, noticed it, or even cared about… Quite frankly I have no delusions of grandeur and I am not that important… I just like to share my opinion sometimes, if people like it that’s their right and if they hate it, that’s their right too, but their rights don’t extend to telling me or the rest of the world how I / they should feel about it…

      Bottom line, it’s better to tell someone you’re a fool in private, than SHOW everyone you’re a fool in public…

      (anybody wants use the quote above, its my quote so royalty fees are applicable… 🙂 )

      Reply

      • Admiral Chief in Space

        April 7, 2014 at 15:21

        Your comment, it is good.

        Reply

  9. Gavin Mannion

    April 7, 2014 at 10:24

    I 100% agree with Owen.. you choose to be offended. As he said it’s sometimes very easy and logical to choose to be offended but in this day where it’s impossible to call someone male or female do you really think people can avoid offending everyone?

    Reply

    • Jonah Cash

      April 7, 2014 at 11:15

      In the not so distant future we won’t speak or write as you will find that 90% of what you say can offend someone somewhere!!

      Reply

      • Kensei Seraph

        April 7, 2014 at 11:21

        I am offended by your repeated use of the number 9 in statistics.

        Reply

        • Jonah Cash

          April 7, 2014 at 13:00

          I really think that the 90%-95% range is where everything is at…. Man I would make an awesome politician!!! Amandla!!!

          Reply

    • Sageville

      April 7, 2014 at 13:15

      I totally disagree, there is NO choice in being offended.

      The choice lies in how you react to said offence.

      Reply

      • Weerwolf

        April 7, 2014 at 17:18

        The worst part is that if no one got offended, that world would be so much better. I myself have gone out of my way to say things that I know would offend certain people. If they didn’t get offended or care, I wouldn’t bother saying anything… Mankind just needs to grow a pair.

        Reply

  10. Half-Minute Hero [Umar]

    April 7, 2014 at 10:26

    While being offended is a choice, if you insult Final Fantasy I will bite your head off in the most offensive way possible

    Reply

  11. RMKennySA

    April 7, 2014 at 10:31

    HOLD ON RIGHT THERE!! I for one….. wait…. no…. lost it.. I was very close to almost being offended. Totally agree with the article.. People must just chill!

    Reply

  12. Admiral Chief Railjack

    April 7, 2014 at 10:32

    My severe procrastination syndrome (SPS) dictates that I must be offended by this, but maybe tomorrow

    Reply

    • CAE9872

      April 7, 2014 at 17:05

      whahahaha…very good!

      Reply

  13. Lydon McG

    April 7, 2014 at 10:34

    Uhm…but it’s true? Someone can call you the worst of names, but if you brush it off and don’t get offended by it then surely that’s a choice?

    Reply

  14. Kensei Seraph

    April 7, 2014 at 10:39

    I am offended that these people took offense and attacked someone over this.

    Reply

  15. JustAnotherGamer

    April 7, 2014 at 10:43

    It’s polygon. they deserve all the hate.

    Reply

    • Kensei Seraph

      April 7, 2014 at 10:45

      Except it isn’t.
      The hate is directed at the journalist who wrote an article about an apology from Polygon.

      Reply

  16. Alien Emperor Trevor

    April 7, 2014 at 10:47

    You know why people get so offended by any- & everything? Because it’s easy to do so, it’s easy to respond “offensively”, and it’s easy to broadcast it. It’s not easy, it’s lazy.

    And the reason some people turn everything into a gender/sex/religion/race/etc argument is because they identify so strongly with a characteristic that anything someone says is seen through the lens of that characteristic. Sometimes they’re right, sometimes they’re wrong.

    Reply

  17. Skyblue

    April 7, 2014 at 10:49

    Yeah, I’m with Stephen Fry so fuck everyone else.

    Reply

  18. Ultimo_Cleric N7

    April 7, 2014 at 10:52

    I think the better response should have been:

    Everyone gets offended, everyday. It’s our choice on how to respond to that.

    If you are offended by someone, just stop listening to them and move on. Or POLITELY point out that you did not appreciate the comment. Throwing your toys just makes you look like a child.

    Bottom line, you DONT HAVE TO RESPOND, if fact it’s better not to. As Zoey pointed out, most people just don’t care anyway.

    Reply

    • Gr8_Balls_o_Fire

      April 7, 2014 at 11:23

      But.. It’s Twitter. I have to use it!!!! I MUST USE SOCIAL NETWORKS!

      Reply

    • ToshZA

      April 7, 2014 at 12:43

      Amen.

      Reply

  19. Sir Rants A Lot Llew. Jelly!!!

    April 7, 2014 at 10:55

    Wow. That’s nice. Basically she said “I refuse to accept your apology and will now make your life difficult for it”

    Sheesh. Not ayoba

    Reply

  20. Stacey Walter

    April 7, 2014 at 10:56

    Brilliant 🙂

    Reply

  21. loftie

    April 7, 2014 at 10:56

    lol was just about to paste Steven Frys offended quote but then I scrolled to the bottom of the article..

    Reply

  22. Kromas

    April 7, 2014 at 11:05

    I am offended at Twitter and Facebook for creating a public forum for idiots and bigots do bark at passers by. #IDislikeTwitter

    Reply

    • Kensei Seraph

      April 7, 2014 at 11:11

      Here here.

      Reply

  23. Kensei Seraph

    April 7, 2014 at 11:24

    I am offended that I am bored and am struggling to find something to use to help me procrastinate.

    Reply

  24. DarthZA

    April 7, 2014 at 11:34

    You do choose to take offense. He is right. You don’t give offense, people take offense. Granted, it is very easy to take offense sometimes, but it is still up to the person who takes it to choose to take it or not. When I was still working with young people (read the 15-19 year old demographic) a few years ago, teaching them that life lesson saw so many youth get over some serious issues in their lives. Really grasping that issue has set so many people free!

    Reply

    • ToshZA

      April 7, 2014 at 12:42

      You don’t choose to take offence – your choice lies in how you react to taking offence to something. You can choose to react with vitriol and hate, or you can choose to stop, think about it, and move on. You choose your reactions, not the offence itself.

      Reply

      • DarthZA

        April 7, 2014 at 16:01

        No, you choose to take offense. You do not choose to hear the words, but taking offense is one of the reactions you can take. You have separated the way you react and taking offense into two different categories, when they really are one in the same. You either take offense, or you don’t, it is your choice.

        Reply

        • ToshZA

          April 7, 2014 at 17:21

          It really isn’t a choice. But I’ll leave you to your merging of ideas. Your reaction is a choice, but being offended isn’t. It’s how you proceed and react once you’ve been offended that’s a choice. It’s important to not react like a complete douche – especially on the internet. But being offended happens all the time. To many people.

          Reply

          • DarthZA

            April 8, 2014 at 07:55

            Put it this way. If I were to say I thought Batman was stupid, and you took offense to that, how have I don’t anything wrong? All I have done is voiced my opinion, and you have taken offense. You might think that is a stupid example, but I’ve seen people take offenses for much less. Real example, a friend was raped by her uncle, the uncle was then released from jail after 6 years, and her cousins took him back into their house and she was offended that they had welcomed him back into their family. The fact that he was accepted back into the family offended her more than the raping. She was able to get over the rape in a matter of weeks because of good counsel and help from friends and family, but this issue of family taking him back in took her years to get over. Her family had done nothing wrong. They were trying to be good people, were trying to help him get his life started again get him back onto the right track. How do you justify that they gave her the offense? She took the offense, and only once she realized that was she able to work through it. Taking an offense is a weakness in our character, not the person we took it from, and the sooner we learn that, the sooner we are able to work through the issue, and then the sooner we can move on. Next time you take offense, just ask yourself, why am I taking offense? Is it because I am being insecure? Do I identify myself by what others think? Am I struggling to let go of something?

  25. Maxiviper117

    April 7, 2014 at 11:49

    I haven’t got a cooking clue what’s going on here

    Reply

  26. Johan Fourie

    April 7, 2014 at 12:01

    “Want some cheese with your whine?”

    “Well, I’m rather offended by that.”

    Rinse, repeat.

    Some people just need to grow some brass balls/labia and lay off the attention seeking “Post” button.

    Reply

  27. No Longer SIR Twakkus

    April 7, 2014 at 12:06

    Stories like these really just irk my soul.
    The further technology and social media progresses, the more I realise society is declining.

    Reply

  28. Chip

    April 7, 2014 at 13:04

    What if I called Stephen Fry a faggot.. does his tough guy moral higher ground quote still apply then?

    Reply

    • Her Highness the Hipster

      April 7, 2014 at 13:28

      Honestly, I’m sure he’s been called worse. Also, it reveals more about your character than it does his.

      Reply

      • Chip

        April 7, 2014 at 13:58

        You’ve just contradicted your article by suggesting its not simply OK for me to say offensive things – because if I do then it makes me a bad person. So I guess people are allowed to be offended then.

        Reply

        • Alien Emperor Trevor

          April 7, 2014 at 14:15

          Erm… do you think that people disproving of random insults is somehow a violation of your free speech Chop?

          Reply

          • Rince

            April 7, 2014 at 14:21

            lol

          • Chip

            April 7, 2014 at 14:32

            No you actually have no idea what I’m getting at.

            I’m getting pretty tired and annoyed of people using that ridiculous Stephen Fry quote to back up their argument whenever someone takes offense to something. Oh the irony of Stephen Fry calling out all the whiners, with his magnum opus mother of all whines.

            People are allowed to feel offended and are allowed to moan and whine about it.

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            April 7, 2014 at 14:43

            I think his quotation is directed at people who say “I’m offended” and then stop there, as if simply stating that is enough & expect an apology. If they have a good reason why then it’s a different story.

          • Avery Smallcube

            April 7, 2014 at 14:50

            it is, but nobody who uses this quote seems to get that, and just use it as carte blanche to call people rude names cause stephen fry is gay and he says this so it must be okay

          • Rags

            April 7, 2014 at 15:59

            You are missing the key point of what Fry is making. If you are offended that should not give you the right to special treatment. While Stephen may be offended by being called a fag or worse, he will not demand special treatment or protection from those who is making the offence.

            Thus: Offended, so fucking what?

          • Chip

            April 7, 2014 at 17:07

            Not in agreement on this. When someone says “I’m offended by that”, it’s a remark they are making in self defense. If someone does something to undermine me I will point it out by stating that they have offended me. That doesn’t mean I want special treatment. It means I want them to know they’ve been a dick… and if they are a decent person they would consider apologizing for their actions. Defending yourself doesn’t make you “whiny”.. it makes you a strong person. Stephen Fry’s view is per this quote is very childish self-centered one.

        • Her Highness the Hipster

          April 7, 2014 at 14:32

          wouldn’t interfere with your right to say offensive things. you still have a right to say them, i still have a right to disagree, and we both have the right to move on with our day.

          Reply

          • Rince

            April 7, 2014 at 14:40

            You have no rights!

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            April 7, 2014 at 14:50

            Correct! They’re a shared mass delusion.

          • Rince

            April 7, 2014 at 14:52

            You shut up or I will be offended x 9000! Try and stop me!

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            April 7, 2014 at 15:02

            But I agreed with you :/ Can’t you just be happy with being right for a change?

          • Rince

            April 7, 2014 at 15:10

            I am now offended! YOU CHOP!

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            April 7, 2014 at 15:14

            Now you’re telling porkies!

          • Double-O-Six and a half

            April 7, 2014 at 15:27

            I don’t know why, but the image above immediately made me feel like Homer Simpson going ” Drool – Bacooooonnnnnnn…. aaagurgh” Damn you Rince, now I’m hungry!!!… and drooling… on my keyboard…!

          • Rince

            April 7, 2014 at 15:31

            To be honest I also need a chop now! DAMMIT!

    • Gavin Mannion

      April 7, 2014 at 15:08

      You can do as you like.. free country and all that.. Also 99.9% sure he’s not going to be offended. Especially since he’s gay and has worked with people saying mean things to him all the time.

      It’s still his choice to be offended or not

      Reply

      • Chip

        April 7, 2014 at 16:47

        So you’re saying you’re convinced he won’t be offended…. a man who took such offense to prejudice towards homosexuals that he traveled the world and made a documentary about it… um OK if you say so.

        What it all boils down to is, you can choose to ignore something offensive.. that doesn’t mean that it is not offensive content. Something that is hateful and mean spirited it is offensive by nature. It doesn’t matter if no one takes offense to it, that is besides the point.. its still plain wrong. Freedom of speech isn’t a free license to be a dick. People need to stop pulling the freedom of speech card to justify that kind of behavior.

        Reply

  29. Voxel Juice

    April 7, 2014 at 14:57

    We wrote about this too, very concerned with how dangerous this type of offensive censorship is. http://www.voxeljuice.com/conspiracy/why-the-lufthausers-apology-is-more-dangerous-than-you-think/

    Reply

  30. Javthing

    April 7, 2014 at 16:01

    As a designer and concept artist I hate with a burning passion this tendency to abolish an aesthetic for it’s connections to a vile, racist regime.

    And I mean this, it’s absolutely legitimate to be shocked by it. It’s connotations are very important and contribute to it’s effect, but banning it’s use in any non historical context just strikes me as ridiculous. Next thing we know we’re gonna be offended at heavy metal bands and motorbike gangs.

    Reply

    • Rags

      April 7, 2014 at 16:05

      Some are already offended at Mario saving a princess captured by a fire breathing 120 pixel dragon.

      Reply

  31. Knightwing19

    April 7, 2014 at 16:13

    And then Twitter goes about bullying the people of this site for writing this very honest and non bias article.
    These radical feminists feel the need to bully others who don’t agree with them. Check their twitters that’s all they do all day.

    Reply

  32. CAE9872

    April 7, 2014 at 17:17

    So here’s a question – if you make a WW2 game can you not have the Nazi symbols/etc in it without causing massive “offence”? How does that work – mankind cannot undo what it did! You may be offended by the symbols, etc but they were real…

    Luftrausers when I first read about the game immediately brought to mind WW1 and 2 aeroplanes and I didn’t even know what the game was about. But the word Luftwaffe is heavily associated with WW2 and specifically the German air force of the time (and yes I get its not specifically related to WW2).

    My point – is everyone going to get offended when we now go back to making WW2 games? With all the symbolism that implies?

    PS – try and not take offence to the post – its not designed to cause any!

    Reply

    • Chip

      April 7, 2014 at 17:21

      The reason why this particular game has caused such a stir is because you actually play on the Nazi side.. vs all previous games where you are one of the good guys.

      Reply

      • CAE9872

        April 7, 2014 at 17:24

        And so? That makes no sense…there would have been no WW2 without the Germans! Or the Japanese! Or the Italians. Point being that the world view of right and wrong is skewed by the end result of the conflict.

        To have conflict you need 2 parties – so why can we not play as the “bad” guys? I think Luftrausers probably not the best example of the debate I am making but hopefully you get the point.

        Reply

        • Chip

          April 7, 2014 at 17:28

          You can’t play as the bad guys when they happen to be genocidal mad men that exist/ed in the real world. Its like imagine a game where you play an Al Qaeda operative and your objective in the game is to fly into the WTC.. not gonna happen in our lifetime.

          Reply

          • CAE9872

            April 7, 2014 at 17:33

            Yeah I hear you re: Al Qaeda. But raises an interesting question – how long after a conflict does it become OK to then play as bad guy in what was a real world scenario.

            In other words IF the Germans had won we would all be playing as them (“good”) trying to take out the “bad” guys. And hence killing American, British, etc forces.

            Perhaps I am asking too much in wanting a balanced view of history! You cannot expunge history – or as quoted “He who wins re-writes history.” Sigh…

          • Chip

            April 7, 2014 at 17:37

            Yep I get what you are saying.. right and wrong are all subjective and can change depending on timeline in history. Personally I wouldn’t have a problem playing as a Nazi in a game.. it just wouldn’t offend me. As long as the game focused on the actual warfare and not like executions and such hehe.

          • Charl van der Merwe

            April 8, 2014 at 08:49

            Ofcourse you can play as bad guys, have you not played GTA ? lol

  33. panicpeach

    April 7, 2014 at 18:00

    Opinions don’t change by bullying them into submission. This is a huge Humanity Fail.

    Reply

  34. Charl van der Merwe

    April 8, 2014 at 08:48

    Well he’s right, people need to shelve their inferiority complexes and get a clue.Whether you get your panties in a twist about whatever is YOUR choice. Jeezus, why are people so sensitive.

    Reply

  35. 3easel_3k

    April 10, 2014 at 21:53

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