Home Gaming DICE: PCs are better than consoles, always will be

DICE: PCs are better than consoles, always will be

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A lot of hype and flaming has been going around the internet because of the differences between the PS4 and Xbox One.  Lately, the biggest discussion has been about whether the differences in RAM meaning that the PS4 will have an advantage over the Xbox One.  DICE, however, says the debate is meaningless – PCs are king.

In an interview with GameInformer, DICE’s Karl Magnus was asked if it’s an advantage for PS4 to have 8GB GDDR5 RAM compared to 5GB DDR3 in the Xbox One in the gaming partition.  He replied:

“More memory or more CPU or GPU power – whatever kind of power we get out of a machine – more is always better, especially for the kind of games that we build.  

“We have a long heritage of PC, and PC is a platform that has been scaled very well over the years. Naturally we’re very excited now seeing consoles that actually close in on what the PCs of today can do – even though it won’t take long before the PCs can do even more.”

You hear that, console fans?  The next-gen consoles will come closer to PCs of today, which will then improve again and surpass consoles.  Time to accept the master race… except at least console gamers always know that their machine will be able to run the games they buy. No need to check specs and upgrade all the time.  

Now, if only everyone would just accept that Macs are better than PCs, we could finally settle this whole argument. [Ed’s note: HIPSTER!]

Last Updated: July 11, 2013

374 Comments

  1. Umar Kiiroi Senk?

    July 11, 2013 at 10:11

    Actually I disagree, I think Consoles are sooooo much better than PCs, I don’t see how these people can keep saying PCs are better than consoles, something is very wrong in this world

    Reply

    • KingKappie

      July 11, 2013 at 10:13

      here is a man that makes sense

      Reply

    • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

      July 11, 2013 at 10:13

      Your argument is invalid, the cat proves it so!

      Reply

      • Umar Kiiroi Senk?

        July 11, 2013 at 10:14

        Sure a cat pushing a watermelon is damn impressive … know what is not impressive? … PC gaming…

        Reply

        • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

          July 11, 2013 at 10:15

          Your argument is again invalid, but this time its because you are just plain silly

          Reply

          • John Ambitious

            July 11, 2013 at 10:51

            There was a post on 9gag a while ago where they said when you get to a
            door in Skyrim the first thing that comes to mind is ANOTHER loading
            screen. I really didn’t get it until I realized that they were talking
            about the console version, because I’ve never had long loading screens.

          • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

            July 11, 2013 at 11:19

            Agreed

        • Kromas

          July 11, 2013 at 10:16

          Okay challenge of the week. Play mass effect 1 on console. Then play mass effect 1 on pc. Point proven.

          Reply

          • Umar Kiiroi Senk?

            July 11, 2013 at 10:22

            🙁 besides the whole PC VS Console … I miss ME 1 , I actually enjoyed that the most in the series, didn’t like the more action route

          • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

            July 11, 2013 at 10:25

            “didn’t like more action”

            Right, that sums up why you act like you do

            😛

            (did you enjoy the long ass elevator action?)

          • Umar Kiiroi Senk?

            July 11, 2013 at 10:27

            Best part in the game. and well ME2 and 3 had much less depth than 1

          • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

            July 11, 2013 at 10:30

            Explain yourself!

          • Umar Kiiroi Senk?

            July 11, 2013 at 10:36

            Whoa before you blow a gasket , ME 2 and 3 are amazing games, they lacked alot of depth for me. was more pew pew with RPG elements than RPG, and ME is supposed to be an RPG, most of the character and Inventory management was scaled down and streamlined and more it felt more pushed in a direction. even enemies were considerably easier

          • Trevor Davies

            July 11, 2013 at 10:59

            I enjoyed ME2 the most, but if it kept the RPG elements of 1 it would have been even better.

          • Umar Kiiroi Senk?

            July 11, 2013 at 11:14

            Man I so agree with you there!!!

          • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

            July 11, 2013 at 11:19

            Ok, I get what you are saying. But for story, all 3 were effin brilliant!

          • Umar Kiiroi Senk?

            July 11, 2013 at 11:19

            Yups, that I can agree with

          • Kromas

            July 11, 2013 at 10:33

            Hey now. I looovvvveeeddd the elevator rides. Best convos in the game.

          • Spathi

            July 11, 2013 at 10:31

            Yay for you!!! Finally someone who doesn’t think ME2 was all that. It was a damn Gears game in space 🙂

          • Umar Kiiroi Senk?

            July 11, 2013 at 10:36

            Yes, very much pew pew. it’s clear to see EA’s influence

          • Lord Chaos

            July 11, 2013 at 10:32

            Except for the mako, 1 was excellent.

          • Argentil

            July 11, 2013 at 11:07

            http://1.asset.soup.io/asset/3241/8129_f633.gif

            I loved the Mako, personally.

      • KingKappie

        July 11, 2013 at 10:16

        Your argument is invalid

        Reply

        • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

          July 11, 2013 at 10:17

          1.) Did you actually read the above?
          2.) Explain yourself?
          3.) Don’t argue with that damn cat, its too awesome
          4.) Did you detect the humour here? Besides the fact that Umar is incorrect with his statement, humour is first and foremost here

          Reply

          • KingKappie

            July 11, 2013 at 10:19

            1.) yes
            2.) no
            3.) the cat is awesome
            4.) humor level 9999

          • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

            July 11, 2013 at 10:21

            1.) Ok
            2.) *sigh*
            3.) agreed
            4.) lulz
            5.) beertime?

          • KingKappie

            July 11, 2013 at 10:22

            beertime yes! If i can bring my Xbox

          • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

            July 11, 2013 at 10:22

            Sure we can put the beer on it so that it is more easily accessible

          • KingKappie

            July 11, 2013 at 10:23

            lolz

          • George

            July 11, 2013 at 10:46

            I don’t know. Annoying as she is. That looks like a pretty good ass to me.

          • Lord Chaos

            July 11, 2013 at 10:22

            Why do you even ask, it’s always beertime.

          • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

            July 11, 2013 at 10:22

            5) beertime! *

            Fixed that for you. It’s never a question

            edit: I see @lordChaos had much the same to say

          • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

            July 11, 2013 at 10:24

            5.) beertime
            6.) beertime
            7.) beertime
            8.) beertime

            better?

          • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

            July 11, 2013 at 10:25

            Much!

          • John Ambitious

            July 11, 2013 at 10:42

            I need some food in there too somewhere…

          • Trevor Davies

            July 11, 2013 at 10:57

            Don’t they use yeast when making beer? So it’s practically bread.

          • John Ambitious

            July 11, 2013 at 11:00

          • TiMsTeR1033

            July 11, 2013 at 11:00

            and water and stuff green barley I think. and hops

          • John Ambitious

            July 11, 2013 at 11:02

            I went to a beer making workshop. Was ready to make my own beer until I realized that it takes time and quite a lot of effort. Kind of defies the point.

          • TiMsTeR1033

            July 11, 2013 at 11:09

            I know….. Wonder if they can make like a ready to mix beer from scratch

          • John Ambitious

            July 11, 2013 at 11:11

            Ready mix beer. Just put it in your soda streamer…the things dreams are made of.

          • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

            July 11, 2013 at 11:17

            I’d quit my job TODAY if I can make beer fulltime

          • TiMsTeR1033

            July 11, 2013 at 11:19

            and get a beer boep

          • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

            July 11, 2013 at 11:20

            Not with my metabolism. I’ve put litres and litres and litres in and simply cannot get one.

            *sigh*

            Medium build it remains for me, no XXL clothes for me 🙁

          • TiMsTeR1033

            July 11, 2013 at 11:21

            YOU WANT ONE?

          • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

            July 11, 2013 at 11:27

            Not really. Just saying

          • John Ambitious

            July 11, 2013 at 11:21

            At least that one is for free

          • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

            July 11, 2013 at 11:17

            Yep yep, you are correct!

        • Lardus

          July 11, 2013 at 11:23

          Hmmm, a mid-day ION 🙂 Gracias amigo!

          Reply

    • ElimiNathan

      July 11, 2013 at 10:23

      Hmmmm

      Reply

    • Willem Swanepoel

      July 11, 2013 at 18:23

      I will agree with you if you can start modding your console games. You have no idea how much more fun games can be when you start adding some mods to it.

      I have added about 100 hours extra on Skyrim just because of mods.

      Minecraft … is epic with mods.

      Unfortunately you cannot do this with your console games. PC just brings more to gaming … you wont know it until you start playing around with it …

      Reply

      • Umar Kiiroi Senk?

        July 11, 2013 at 19:30

        hey i was just testing to see people’s reactions .lol i love pc games,especially mods half life mods half life mods half mods are some of my favorite..nightmare house and cry of fear for example are so much fun. no offence though, sorry if i did 🙂

        Reply

  2. Admiral Chief Groot Wors

    July 11, 2013 at 10:13

    Header lulz indeed! Best one this week!

    Reply

  3. Admiral Chief Groot Wors

    July 11, 2013 at 10:14

    LOVE DAT editor’s note!

    We all know MACs are CRAP 😛

    Reply

    • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

      July 11, 2013 at 10:26

      Yep. Even had a mate who bought a mac and then hacked it to run windows because the OS was so horrid hahaha. Was the best day of my life seeing him boot up his Mac in to windows at that lan

      Reply

    • Trevor Davies

      July 11, 2013 at 10:27

      Apples keep doctors away, they’re not for gaming.

      Reply

      • Zoe

        July 11, 2013 at 10:27

        but they have awesome high res screens and incredible graphics

        Reply

        • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

          July 11, 2013 at 10:29

          Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight, and I’m a flying cow

          Reply

        • Trevor Davies

          July 11, 2013 at 10:29

          when compared to an etch-n-sketch. trollol

          Reply

          • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

            July 11, 2013 at 10:30

            XD winnar!

          • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

            July 11, 2013 at 10:30

            lol

          • Lord Chaos

            July 11, 2013 at 10:30

            lol

  4. Admiral Chief Groot Wors

    July 11, 2013 at 10:20

    I see what you are doing Zoe, you are trying to lure all the console fanbois and PC elitists to duke it out here to win the coveted “most comments” award.

    Just remember, if and when you win, you have to be ION header.

    Reply

    • Lord Chaos

      July 11, 2013 at 10:20

      ION FTW!!

      Reply

    • Zoe

      July 11, 2013 at 10:22

      i have ion pose already picked out for when i eventually win batman. it’s even topless. i leave the rest in the community’s hands…

      Reply

      • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

        July 11, 2013 at 10:22

        YOU LIE!!!

        Reply

        • Zoe

          July 11, 2013 at 10:23

          tis true. sexy shoes and topless. but hey… the community only gets what it demands 😉

          Reply

          • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

            July 11, 2013 at 10:25

            YOU LIE AGAIN!

          • Zoe

            July 11, 2013 at 10:26

            it’s all truth. but seeing as the conspiracy is against me, doesn’t look like i’ll be winning batman anytime soon… 🙁

          • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

            July 11, 2013 at 10:29

            STOP TEASING US DAMMIT

          • John Ambitious

            July 11, 2013 at 10:55

            I missed the Batman argument, so I can’t give support or criticism.

          • TiMsTeR1033

            July 11, 2013 at 10:57

            We will help you win then you show us the goods!

      • Lord Chaos

        July 11, 2013 at 10:23

        O_O

        Reply

      • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

        July 11, 2013 at 10:23

        Lemme guess. Topless as in the top half of the picture is cut off right?

        Reply

        • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

          July 11, 2013 at 10:25

          XD

          Reply

      • Trevor Davies

        July 11, 2013 at 10:25

        Uh huh

        Reply

        • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

          July 11, 2013 at 10:25

          heh “community’s hands”

          wait…

          Reply

      • KingKappie

        July 11, 2013 at 10:27

        so did you decided to use me as the ion

        Reply

  5. Lord Chaos

    July 11, 2013 at 10:20

    PCs will always be superior, fact of life.

    I once painted a dustbin black and made quite a fortune selling it as a mac pro.

    Reply

    • John Ambitious

      July 11, 2013 at 10:46

      I think a dustbin makes you look a little bit less douchy though

      Reply

  6. Xelus

    July 11, 2013 at 10:20

    There is only one Mac I’d take above a pc, and her name is Melonie Mac. XD That is it for macs, nothing more. lol

    Reply

  7. Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

    July 11, 2013 at 10:21

    Well, you don’t actually always need to upgrade. People want to upgrade because they want the maximum graphics available.

    To run it on console level graphics you really only need a rig that costs… well roughly what next gen consoles will #AwaitsTheFlamesIncoming

    Reply

    • Argentil

      July 11, 2013 at 10:27

      This is incorrect. Console hardware doesn’t translate directly into PC hardware. The chips are overclocked and modified, the operating systems are optimised to prioritise running a game, with minimal real-time multitasking consuming resources, not to mention developers can develop their game to fully utilise the specs of the console because it is standard.

      In reality, in order to attain similar performance, you would need to pay almost double the cost of a PS4. And then you would still have inconsistent results.

      Reply

      • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

        July 11, 2013 at 10:28

        This is incorrect. (your second point)

        But instead of educating you, I present:

        CHEESE CURLS!

        Reply

        • Argentil

          July 11, 2013 at 10:30

          Do elaborate.

          Reply

          • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

            July 11, 2013 at 10:31

            Cheese curls are better chips

          • Argentil

            July 11, 2013 at 10:31

            And regarding the second point?

          • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

            July 11, 2013 at 10:32

            See LC’s post above

        • John Ambitious

          July 11, 2013 at 10:47

          I like cheese curls

          Reply

      • Lord Chaos

        July 11, 2013 at 10:28

        My chips ore OC’d and modded. And Optimization software running on 3rd screen…

        Reply

        • Argentil

          July 11, 2013 at 10:31

          So you don’t have Steam/Origin/Drivers/Antivirus/Chat programmes any other processes taking up your resources?

          Reply

          • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

            July 11, 2013 at 10:31

            Why would you run Origin/Av/chat programs on your gaming rig?

          • Argentil

            July 11, 2013 at 10:32

            For games that require them?

          • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

            July 11, 2013 at 10:32

            Why would you run AV/chat program for a game?

          • Argentil

            July 11, 2013 at 10:34

            Do you not use mumble? Or leave steam running to chat to friends? Especially in multiplayer games, plenty of people skype/mumble/TS instead of using in-game chat (if it’s available)

          • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

            July 11, 2013 at 10:39

            Skype is coming to XBox remember. So that’s going to be an overhead.

            Also when you run voice over a network remember it has to dedicate itself to streaming that data but has no alternative pipes to do it with. It has to be part of the current clock cycle and has to perform an interupt on the CPU to do so. So there is a lot of overhead on any system that uses voice. PC or Console and neither does that part any better than the other.

            Also, you overestimate how much resources things like TS actually use when running in the background. They barely touch the resources (unless you use skype which is a RAM hog, in which case you are doing it wrong. Looking at you Microsoft!)

          • Argentil

            July 11, 2013 at 10:43

            Skype has really gone down the shitter since MS acquired them 🙁
            So many adverts and social media integration. Not to mention Skype for android isn’t even worth using anymore. Le sigh.

          • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

            July 11, 2013 at 11:03

            Skype for android is the pits! Drains my battery within 2 hours 🙁

          • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

            July 11, 2013 at 11:04

            Really? Time for S4 it seems

          • Argentil

            July 11, 2013 at 11:06

            Mine too. It used to work great though. Blame MS.

          • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

            July 11, 2013 at 10:46

            Steam is steam for steam chat so steam+steam is still steam dammit.

            Any case, if you run the bare minimum system requirements, then yes, you must disable all those other silly apps. But if you are serious about gaming, then you won’t buy a generic PC (which you will have to do some app disabling etc)

          • Argentil

            July 11, 2013 at 10:51

            I wasn’t arguing that steam chat is separate from steam. I was just saying that I usually leave steam open even when I’m not playing a steam game, so that I can chat to friends, or have my games update when I’m not using the PC. I keep steam on 24/7, and only turn it off if I have poor system performance, which hasn’t happened yet this gen. It’s a factor that developers have to keep in mind. This intangible variable that is different for each user.

          • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

            July 11, 2013 at 10:56

            Ok, so if you are a gaming fan/fanatic/enthusiast on PC you will know your way around your PC and you will most likely not have a generic PC and will not have this problem.

            If you have silly apps and things running in the background using up your RAMzors, then thats just it. Silly.

            I’m not saying that YOU have it running, was referring to a person that would have issues

          • Argentil

            July 11, 2013 at 11:05

            I am not one of those people. I do know plenty of people who are, and who buy recent games.

          • Lourens Jordaan

            July 11, 2013 at 11:37

            You are missing the point. There is a forken cat pushing a forken watermelon out of the forken lake!!!!!

          • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

            July 11, 2013 at 12:00

            Valid point

          • Argentil

            July 11, 2013 at 10:37

            You completely disable your antivirus while playing games? If you do, that is OCD. Who would bother to do that? Avast uses a silent/gaming mode, but it still uses minimal background resources.

          • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

            July 11, 2013 at 10:45

            No, but certain AVs are kak for gaming

          • Lord Chaos

            July 11, 2013 at 10:31

            They do, but in a controlled environment.

          • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

            July 11, 2013 at 10:33

            Yes they take up resources when being actively used. Otherwise they sit in a suspended state. Usually in the PC’s virtual RAM which is actually on the HDD and not physical RAM and only swops to physical RAM when needed.

            So when you are running a game the game has preferance on the physical RAM while most other apps go sit in the Virtual RAM on HDD until called for

          • Argentil

            July 11, 2013 at 10:42

            Forgive me if I’m wrong, but those processes, such as AV, Chat programmes, Steam etc are all active processes, even while running a full screen application. Your antivirus is still keeping an eye on your system’s activity, your chat programmes are updating, your steam is either integrated into your game if you’re running a steam game, or Origin if you’re playing an Origin game.

            BTW, I’m not trolling/ranting here, I’m completely calm, but I would really like to understand this argument completely.

          • Trevor Davies

            July 11, 2013 at 10:55

            You have a point if you’re referring to basic PCs with a GB or 2 of RAM. However the amount of memory available on most newer PCs, these processes have no real effect. If I open the task manager & view the processes running while in-game too, the most I recall seeing used by a game was 400mb. It all depends on the build of the PC.

            The last time I actively worried about memory was when I had a 286 & had to tweak my startup files to get the 500k I needed to run a game.

          • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

            July 11, 2013 at 11:04

            I remember those tweaks…

            Thanks for making me feel old

            O_O

          • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

            July 11, 2013 at 11:01

            For sure, no problem. And yes they are active but not in the sense you are thinking.

            When you are running an AV (not running a full system scan) it will check only changes being made on the system. So if a file is created/downloaded/changed in any way. So while running a game it kinda sits and twiddles its thumbs.

            Steam Overlay much the same. It sits in Virtual ram and only jumps in on the CPU clock cycle when you request it to or a message comes through from a friend. So while it is active, it isn’t touching your CPU (Which is where bottlenecks and hitches mostly come from) until it needs to tell it to stop quickly to allow it to do something (pop up an overlay or a chat message)

            Your console has the exact same flaw with any chat or overlays it has for games. Those also have to interrupt the CPU, place their instruction in the queue at the interrupted cycle and then have the system process it.

            Voice, similar to steam explanation.

            Etc.

            Now the big difference comes in where they sit. PC’s have this very amazing bit of tech called virtual RAM. What this does is, it allows a PC to create “RAM” from your HDD. It’s slower than what real RAM would be (limited by your HDD read/write access), but is able to do exactly what RAM would for the system. It’s called a paging file in Windows.

            Now the cool thing is that when your PC is under load (When shooting things in the face in Borderlands or whatever) it can offload all non-critical applications to this “virtual RAM”. Such as your skype, Teamspeak etc which can still perform perfectly in virtual RAM even if it isn’t as fast as physical RAM. Thereby allowing your system to use the high end stuff for the rendering etc.

            So yeah, the “overheads” on PC exist but are by no means as system draining as people tend to believe. It’s actually a very efficient system.

            On a side note: Most overlays (steam text chat in games etc) are run from the graphics card anyway and not on the CPU and since the GFX card is a dedicated GDDR5 system anyway it handles it as good as an optomised next-gen console will and since the GFX card has separate dedicated RAM instead of a shared RAM environment

      • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

        July 11, 2013 at 10:29

        I know I know. But double is also incorrect. The system is perhaps 30% faster in real terms and yes, it still can’t run it like a PC does. Look at the unreal demos that were shown to show off the PS4 capabilities. Was impressive, but a lot was still not as impressive as on the PC because the PC tech was just more capable due to being stronger.

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        • Argentil

          July 11, 2013 at 10:30

          in order to gain 30% performance gain, you’d be paying a lot more money.

          Reply

          • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

            July 11, 2013 at 10:31

            Actually no. a 30% gain in nowadays terms is moving from a 560Ti to a 660 (non Ti) which is about R1000 difference.

          • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

            July 11, 2013 at 10:31

            Heh

          • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

            July 11, 2013 at 10:34

            Or AMD equivelant for those who prefer AMD 😛

          • Zoe

            July 11, 2013 at 10:34

            AMD are the master race of PC master races 😉

          • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

            July 11, 2013 at 10:44

            WOOOOOT

          • Hammersteyn

            July 11, 2013 at 11:11

            So then the next gen consoles are the bastard children of the PC what with their AMD hardware?

          • Trevor Davies

            July 11, 2013 at 10:56

            AMD has no equal, you should know this.

          • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

            July 11, 2013 at 10:57

            Hear hear!!!!

          • TiMsTeR1033

            July 11, 2013 at 10:59

            Dude pcs are great yes. But if you built a console and pc same specs console will kick its ass WHY coz it has custom built for gaming hardware pcs are not built for gaming in mind only.

          • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

            July 11, 2013 at 11:03

            Yes, it can handle more

          • Trevor Davies

            July 11, 2013 at 11:04

            True, but that’s the beauty of PC, you don’t have to match console specs if you don’t want too, and it’s yours to do with as you please. i’ll concede the hardware costs more upfront the higher you go up the food chain.

          • TiMsTeR1033

            July 11, 2013 at 11:06

            Huh, pcs dont get custom made cpu / gpus like consoles do or cell like in ps3. Consoles are far better if you think how they can keep up with pc graphics even today with 2005 technology.

          • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

            July 11, 2013 at 11:11

            Some days, when you say this, I’m glad I’m married, otherwise I would have married you. So much love for that comment. *sniff*

          • Trevor Davies

            July 11, 2013 at 11:23

            I feel complimented & very glad you’re married at the same time 😀

          • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

            July 11, 2013 at 11:27

            Hahaha

          • Argentil

            July 11, 2013 at 10:37

            What are the flippy flops on the 660? How does it compare to the PS4’s card? Because the higher up you go, the higher the price difference. Even so, R1000 is a big difference.

          • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

            July 11, 2013 at 11:07

            Memory bandwidth: 144.192 GB/secFLOPS: 1881.6 GFLOPS

          • Argentil

            July 11, 2013 at 11:08

            Good to know, so it’s comparable then. GTI 660’s retail for what, R2,500? That’s half the cost of the console already.

          • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

            July 11, 2013 at 11:12

            You can build an i5 PC with a GT660 for R6k – R7k. (or AMD equivelant before Erwin reminds me :P)

            That’s the same price as what the new PS4 and XBox one are going to be releasing at.

          • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

            July 11, 2013 at 11:13

            Well said.

            And thanks

          • TiMsTeR1033

            July 11, 2013 at 11:16

            Yeah and when a flipping i9 or whatever comes out ps4 will still keep up….

          • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

            July 11, 2013 at 11:16

            Keep up yes, compare? No chance

          • TiMsTeR1033

            July 11, 2013 at 11:18

            it will compare! a xbox 360 can still keep up in terms of some pc games which arerun on i7s with 8 gb of ram ect and the graphics are basically the same gee I wonder how that happens.

          • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

            July 11, 2013 at 11:22

            Keep up as in how an Ford Figo keeps up with a Ford Focus ST?

            Sure they both get you there, but the rest you can figure out for yourself

          • TiMsTeR1033

            July 11, 2013 at 11:28

            its not the same and you know it

          • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

            July 11, 2013 at 11:29

            Yes, you said it right there:
            “its not the same”

          • Argentil

            July 11, 2013 at 11:16

            You can, and the system will not age as well as a console. Does TLoU look like it would run well on 7 year old PC architecture? That is a good price for a mid-range PC though. I would have priced R7-8000. I usually replace Power supplies, sometimes HDDs and input devices when I upgrade.

          • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

            July 11, 2013 at 11:21

            Fair enough. And yeah, consoles are a sure-fire way to make sure that you have hardware that will stay relevant for 5 – 7 years or so.

            However, I must point out that console games are a lot more expensive than PC games. So the upgrades one would spend on a PC pretty much go in to the extra R100 – R200 that is slapped on to a console game (and no, I still can’t figure out why console games are more expensive. I honestly can’t)

            It actually all evens out at the end

          • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

            July 11, 2013 at 11:22

            Don’t forget Steam specials

          • Argentil

            July 11, 2013 at 11:24

            One acronym: PS+

            It really increases the value of the console. As for the overall argument, having both platforms is ideal since you can keep a console for 8+ years without worrying about it losing support. Also, the price of a console drops rapidly after the initial launch price – so depending on when you adopt, you could have higher gains in value.

          • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

            July 11, 2013 at 11:27

            PS+ is great yes. But not everyone has the bandwidth to download the games. And most of the games aren’t new releases so you have to wait for it to hopefully go to PS+ after a while. If it does.

            In that argument I can say Steam sales. Where a game will then cost me R100 for the game because I waited for it and didn’t get it at launch. So again. All evens out

            I swear I am not trying to be difficult lol. Just enjoying the back and forth.

            But this is SA and most of us can’t afford uncapped internet so even PS+ and steam specials are useless for someone like me 🙁

          • Argentil

            July 11, 2013 at 11:28

            If you don’t have the bandwidth for PS+, you don’t have the bandwidth for steam sales anyway.

          • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

            July 11, 2013 at 11:30

            Exactly, which brings me back to my original point. If you can’t take advantage of either, then it all evens itself out at a base level.

          • Argentil

            July 11, 2013 at 11:35

            There’s the used games market and platinum/classics to consider in addition to that. Your point makes sense, and I buy games in tandem for both console and PC depending on genre, price, purchase history and convenience. If digital console purchases became platform agnostic, ie. a PSN game purchased working on VITA, PS3 and PS4, it would greatly add to the value of the game over time.

          • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

            July 11, 2013 at 11:37

            Can’t argue with you there

  8. Argentil

    July 11, 2013 at 10:23

    Alright DICE, I’m sure the 5% of players with hardware superior to the consoles for the first 2 years will really appreciate your endeavours.

    The fragmented specs of PCs, and the multi-tasking/OS requirements all render PC’s less ideal development environments than the dedicated console equivalents. PS3 exclusives and PC optimised games have maintained similar graphical fidelity, even this late in the generation.

    Reply

    • Uberutang

      July 11, 2013 at 10:29

      TIL I am the 5%

      Reply

  9. Trevor Davies

    July 11, 2013 at 10:24

    I love watching the fight between Sony & MS to see who comes last & second last while sitting on the deck of my PC ivory tower with a drink in hand.

    Reply

    • Zoe

      July 11, 2013 at 10:25

      just don’t spill your drink 😉

      Reply

      • Trevor Davies

        July 11, 2013 at 10:31

        I’ll summon a peasant to clean it up. MASTER RACE ELITIST YO! 😀

        Reply

        • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

          July 11, 2013 at 10:32

          Oh man, Trevor’s on a roll today!

          Reply

    • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

      July 11, 2013 at 10:26

      *joins in*
      *brings biltong*

      Reply

  10. Umar Kiiroi Senk?

    July 11, 2013 at 10:26

    Okay Before people start hating me 🙁 I just wanted to test how easy is it to start a flame when it comes to PC VS Console …. So uhh … peace to all I will no longer act like a douche , Thank You, PC gaming is awesome … though I would hardly call it a master race #PEACEandLOVE

    Reply

    • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

      July 11, 2013 at 10:27

      The master race is GAMERS (and NO if you ONLY play Angry Birds you are NOT considered a gamer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

      Reply

      • Umar Kiiroi Senk?

        July 11, 2013 at 10:29

        I would actually consider them a gamer, subset thereof, extreme casual gamers. and yup agreed to the fact that the master race is all gamers…elitism sucks

        Reply

      • Trevor Davies

        July 11, 2013 at 10:33

        hehe like Zartan in the last GI Joe movie. that made me giggle.

        Reply

        • TiMsTeR1033

          July 11, 2013 at 10:49

          Gi Joe sucked lol

          Reply

  11. KingKappie

    July 11, 2013 at 10:33

    i don’t have the wallet to upgrade my pc every 3 months so if and when i get the ps4 its a once off for 5 years

    Reply

    • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

      July 11, 2013 at 10:33

      Every 3 months?

      #DoingItWrong

      Reply

      • Kromas

        July 11, 2013 at 10:34

        Should be every three days.

        Reply

        • Trevor Davies

          July 11, 2013 at 10:35

          and that’s just the Windows updates. Damn it, look what you made me do, troll myself.

          Reply

          • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

            July 11, 2013 at 10:43

            Pfff, Windows updates are for the uninformed.

        • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

          July 11, 2013 at 10:44

          If you are a complete idiot yes

          Reply

          • Kromas

            July 11, 2013 at 11:40

            Just trying to confuse the console kiddies. Don’t wanna overcrowd gaming heaven.

      • KingKappie

        July 11, 2013 at 10:34

        sorry not a pc fan do not know how it works

        Reply

        • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

          July 11, 2013 at 10:43

          So because you do not know how it works you are not a fan???

          Reply

          • KingKappie

            July 11, 2013 at 10:45

            no not at all i have a pc gr8 for laning an so on but my xbox is the only one for me

    • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

      July 11, 2013 at 10:35

      My last PC lasted 8 years and was only upgraded with a graphics card once during it’s life cycle. 0_o

      Reply

      • John Ambitious

        July 11, 2013 at 12:05

        I upgraded a year ago. Spent just over 7k and it’s the same specs as the next gen consoles. Plus, I can play Starcraft 2.
        I don’t see a problem.

        Reply

    • Umar Kiiroi Senk?

      July 11, 2013 at 10:38

      I agree with this part. my main gripe with PC is the games itself, most of the games I love are on consoles, and PC hardly ever get’s decent ports.

      Reply

      • Spathi

        July 11, 2013 at 10:38

        Star Citizen 🙁

        Reply

        • Umar Kiiroi Senk?

          July 11, 2013 at 10:40

          There will obviously be exceptions though, which is why I have a PC too, yay for hypocrite gamers like me 🙂

          Reply

        • Lourens Jordaan

          July 11, 2013 at 11:06

          Why did you have to bring Star Citizen to the fight? It hurts.

          Reply

          • TiMsTeR1033

            July 11, 2013 at 11:08

            coz he can and he is cruel…

      • TiMsTeR1033

        July 11, 2013 at 10:48

        Pcs hardly ever get any decent games! and honestly even if you have a pc with super specs. its setting up graphics and res and AA is on ect. I have become so not liss for that any more. sure some games are great on pc. but after many years on a console, I can do just as well on fps games with a controller over a mouse.

        Reply

  12. John Ambitious

    July 11, 2013 at 10:40

    That’s what they said about the One and the PS4…”It’ll be closer to PC’s than ever before.”
    Close, but no cigar.

    Reply

    • KingKappie

      July 11, 2013 at 10:40

      only good thing about the PC is minesweeper

      Reply

      • John Ambitious

        July 11, 2013 at 10:49

        Eina, that hurt. Only it hurt in much better graphics and much smoother with a loading time that doesn’t make me cut my wrists.

        Reply

        • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

          July 11, 2013 at 10:50

          YAY, good shot!

          Reply

          • KingKappie

            July 11, 2013 at 10:54

            the only reason you like your PC is because your friends live in it

          • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

            July 11, 2013 at 11:00

            So you assume to know me? Riiiight

          • KingKappie

            July 11, 2013 at 11:01

            no not at all i don’t do PC

          • John Ambitious

            July 11, 2013 at 12:08

            Haha. Funny rage comment.

      • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

        July 11, 2013 at 10:50

        So you are typing this message where exactly?

        Reply

        • Umar Kiiroi Senk?

          July 11, 2013 at 10:53

          On his phone …..

          Reply

          • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

            July 11, 2013 at 11:00

            What are you? His voyeur?

          • Umar Kiiroi Senk?

            July 11, 2013 at 11:05

            Well nope, but it could be possible he is doing it from his phone though, no?

          • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

            July 11, 2013 at 11:06

            Possible, but not plausible.

          • Umar Kiiroi Senk?

            July 11, 2013 at 11:08

            Probably not yea, we all at work on our PCs in any case … why do all of us slack so much lol

          • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

            July 11, 2013 at 11:08

            BACK TO WORK

            😛

          • KingKappie

            July 11, 2013 at 11:09

            What work lolz

        • KingKappie

          July 11, 2013 at 11:01

          im at work doing work on my PC

          Reply

          • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

            July 11, 2013 at 11:02

            Right. So is there nothing good about doing your job and bringing home bacon?

          • Wtf101

            July 11, 2013 at 11:06

            I think he might have been referring to games… Games on PC

          • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

            July 11, 2013 at 11:09

            So then he means that he only plays minesweeper on PC and unaware of other games. Sorry. Not buying it. (his comment, not yours, you make sense)

          • Wtf101

            July 11, 2013 at 11:12

            Different strokes for different folks is what I say. Maybe this guy games with as much passion on his console as you do on PC

          • John Ambitious

            July 11, 2013 at 12:09

            I have both platforms and I really see the appeal of a console, but it can’t match my pc in any way except that it has Gran Turismo.

          • KingKappie

            July 11, 2013 at 11:12

            look i have nothing agents your PC i just prefer Xbox/PS

          • TiMsTeR1033

            July 11, 2013 at 11:13

            you bloody agent!! LMAO!!

          • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

            July 11, 2013 at 11:15

            I also have nothing against consoles, but I have something against uninformed statements and attitude against something not understood / misunderstood.

            Lets just leave it at that.

            Look, gaming for all, and no prejudice. Right?

          • KingKappie

            July 11, 2013 at 11:22

            Gaming for all!

          • John Ambitious

            July 11, 2013 at 12:09

            Hear hear

          • TiMsTeR1033

            July 11, 2013 at 11:02

            NOT WORKING!!!!! BAD EMPLOYEE!!!

          • KingKappie

            July 11, 2013 at 11:03

            Shhhhhhh!

          • TiMsTeR1033

            July 11, 2013 at 11:03

            Is it me or work kinda quiet of late?

  13. KingKappie

    July 11, 2013 at 10:51

    its shocking no one is standing up for the WII
    (note its not me just making a point)

    Reply

    • John Ambitious

      July 11, 2013 at 10:53

      School only comes out at 2

      Reply

      • KingKappie

        July 11, 2013 at 10:54

        winner!!

        Reply

      • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

        July 11, 2013 at 11:01

        Oh man, cracked me right up!

        Have a legion of upvotes!

        Reply

      • Zoe

        July 11, 2013 at 11:09

        i love the WiiU, but so much win for this comment!

        Reply

      • Argentil

        July 11, 2013 at 11:09

        lol!

        Reply

      • KingKappie

        July 11, 2013 at 11:09

        comment of the week for sure

        Reply

  14. HvR

    July 11, 2013 at 10:53

    Macs are PC’s with a crappy over priced OS in a nice aluminium finish.

    Reply

    • nicksimp101

      July 11, 2013 at 11:32

      Best summarized description of a Mac ever! I am going to be using this when talking to clients about why not to go for a Mac!!

      Reply

    • Zoe

      July 11, 2013 at 11:33

      nooooooooo! they are amazing in every way. and they don’t get viruses (mostly because no one bothers to program spyware for them)

      Reply

      • TiMsTeR1033

        July 11, 2013 at 11:34

        they great fro graphic design and web design! wish i had one

        Reply

      • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

        July 11, 2013 at 11:35

        Yeah because hipsters don’t earn enough money to even worry about hacking them (#TooFar?)

        Reply

        • Unavengedavo

          July 11, 2013 at 11:37

          No because McAfee is to Mainstream 😛

          Reply

  15. Troll Slayer

    July 11, 2013 at 10:55

  16. John Ambitious

    July 11, 2013 at 10:58

    Only PC/Console articles can push this many comments.

    Reply

    • Its Just a Ride

      July 11, 2013 at 11:03

      Phuck knows why? Its undebatable. Even I mainly use my Xbox 360 and had the PS3 I know consoles will never beat the master race unless they allow you to upgrade all the hardware as soon as new tech is available, you know kinda like a PC……..

      Reply

  17. Slade Boender

    July 11, 2013 at 10:58

    haha cheap trick for comments Zoe. SIES!

    Reply

  18. Lardus

    July 11, 2013 at 11:03

    The closest a Mac can get to a being remotely good, is a Big Mac with Fries! ** And I only eat that when I have been drinking ALOT **

    Reply

    • KingKappie

      July 11, 2013 at 11:04

      1000 up-votes for you

      Reply

    • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

      July 11, 2013 at 11:05

      ooooooh, nice. And right before lunch!

      Evil man. Maar knap gedaan!

      😉

      Reply

    • Tbone187

      July 11, 2013 at 11:05

      But it has a shiny cover and costs more. It must be better…hehe…

      Reply

  19. Paul Fouche

    July 11, 2013 at 11:04

    and im just like… “DO YOU EVEN LIFT BRO?”

    Reply

  20. Unavengedavo

    July 11, 2013 at 11:05

    Well seeing as Valve is putting a lot of effort into getting Linux gaming Windows Could finally have a competitor as a PC gaming OS

    Reply

  21. TiMsTeR1033

    July 11, 2013 at 11:20

    DAMN AND THERE WAS SILENCE! LUNCH TIME OVER!

    Reply

  22. Theo Steenekamp

    July 11, 2013 at 11:21

    Annnnd Zoe wins the most comments… not even the end of the week and she pulls this one.

    Reply

  23. Umar Kiiroi Senk?

    July 11, 2013 at 11:25

    Soooooo let’s get the Most Comments up on one of Darryn or Geoff’s article to see an ION pics of them

    Reply

    • Zoe

      July 11, 2013 at 11:26

      i dunno, the reply to darryn’s ion was less than pleasant 😉

      Reply

      • TiMsTeR1033

        July 11, 2013 at 11:27

        darryn had an ion?

        Reply

        • Zoe

          July 11, 2013 at 11:29

          • Argentil

            July 11, 2013 at 11:30

            Jayzuz

          • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

            July 11, 2013 at 11:31

            Why would you remind us!?

          • TiMsTeR1033

            July 11, 2013 at 11:31

            nice pool and place. now if only you were in his place

          • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

            July 11, 2013 at 11:36

            NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

      • Umar Kiiroi Senk?

        July 11, 2013 at 11:28

        Lol but it must have gotten a lot of female viewers no?

        Reply

      • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

        July 11, 2013 at 11:30

        “less than pleasant” is like saying EA is not that cool, you know its much worse!

        Reply

    • Trevor Davies

      July 11, 2013 at 11:28

      Careful what you wish for :/

      Reply

      • Umar Kiiroi Senk?

        July 11, 2013 at 11:29

        I think it will draw a lot more people of the female species

        Reply

  24. Sir Twakkus

    July 11, 2013 at 11:27

    Wow Zoe…. You really now how to stir the pot. 276 comments and counting.

    Reply

  25. Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

    July 11, 2013 at 11:31

    I’ll just add that Android is better than iOS. 😛

    Reply

    • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

      July 11, 2013 at 11:32

      Are you trying to cause all out war? Are you crazy! You can’t utter that when there is already a PC / Console war raging here!

      Reply

      • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

        July 11, 2013 at 11:44

        WORLD WAR GEEK, BABY!!! I’m cashining in all my chips, like a Kaiser

        Reply

        • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

          July 11, 2013 at 11:47

          lol

          Reply

    • Unavengedavo

      July 11, 2013 at 11:32

      And Oranges are way tastier than Bananas…

      Reply

      • TiMsTeR1033

        July 11, 2013 at 11:33

        thats uncalled for!!!!

        Reply

        • Unavengedavo

          July 11, 2013 at 11:35

          Sorry, I apologize… It was said in the heat of the moment

          Reply

          • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

            July 11, 2013 at 11:37

            Bananas > Guavas > Oranges > Potatoes

          • Trevor Davies

            July 11, 2013 at 11:44

            it’s poTAHto!

          • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

            July 11, 2013 at 11:45

            Nah ah, it’s PoTAYto!

          • BacchusZA

            July 11, 2013 at 11:52

            Hey, Vodka is made from potatoes. That earns it a far higher rating than any fruit, if you ask me.

            It’s not whiskey, & therefore G_Ds chosen tipple, but it’s still worthy of respect.

          • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

            July 11, 2013 at 12:07

            East Africans love banana wine and beer! 😀 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_wine

          • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

            July 11, 2013 at 12:15

            KAK man, its aartappel!

          • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

            July 11, 2013 at 12:17

            Nah Ah! It’s AR-tap-pel!

          • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

            July 11, 2013 at 12:18

            Mazambans

          • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

            July 11, 2013 at 11:57

            And WORS beats all

          • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

            July 11, 2013 at 12:09

            Wors is considered the best vegetable on earth…

          • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

            July 11, 2013 at 12:10

            You make no sense Jim.

          • TiMsTeR1033

            July 11, 2013 at 11:38

            *SINGS* IT WAS THE HEAT OF THE MOMENT

    • Umar Kiiroi Senk?

      July 11, 2013 at 11:32

      The 5 hipsters reading this site was instantly offended 🙂

      Reply

      • Zoe

        July 11, 2013 at 11:33

        oh no you didn’t! i love my iphone and my mac, especially because they make sweet sweet intercourse with each other

        Reply

        • TiMsTeR1033

          July 11, 2013 at 11:33

          and have ipod babies

          Reply

          • Umar Kiiroi Senk?

            July 11, 2013 at 11:34

            lol start out as ipod mini –> ipod—>iphone—ipad….Mac …

          • TiMsTeR1033

            July 11, 2013 at 11:36

            what will the future bring Ibabe?

          • Zoe

            July 11, 2013 at 11:38

          • Anon A Mouse

            July 11, 2013 at 14:54

            I thought iRack was a country being bombed by the US of A….

          • Zoe

            July 11, 2013 at 14:58

            there is no exit strategy

        • Umar Kiiroi Senk?

          July 11, 2013 at 11:36

          lol … that’s hot, kinda ….HUH???

          Reply

          • TiMsTeR1033

            July 11, 2013 at 11:40

            MACS GOT UT3 FTMFW!!!

        • Trevor Davies

          July 11, 2013 at 11:45

          That’s incest. Disgusting.

          Reply

          • Zoe

            July 11, 2013 at 11:47

            they’re cousins… it’s how they do it in benoni 😉

    • Exalted Overlord Geoffrey Tim

      July 11, 2013 at 11:35

      Skippy is better than Black Cat.

      Reply

      • Unavengedavo

        July 11, 2013 at 11:36

        No Skippy… No School!

        Reply

      • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

        July 11, 2013 at 11:36

        Bovril is better than marmite!

        Reply

        • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

          July 11, 2013 at 11:37

          Marmite is better than Vegemite.

          Reply

          • BacchusZA

            July 11, 2013 at 11:42

            QFT.

            Vegemite is Australian.

            Ergo, ANYTHING is better than Vegemite.

          • TiMsTeR1033

            July 11, 2013 at 11:51

            sies man

        • BacchusZA

          July 11, 2013 at 11:41

          HERESY!!!!!!!!!

          Reply

      • Umar Kiiroi Senk?

        July 11, 2013 at 11:39

        OH HELL NO!!!…you didn’t just go there!!

        Reply

    • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

      July 11, 2013 at 11:37

      YAY

      Reply

  26. BacchusZA

    July 11, 2013 at 11:40

    Holy ginormous crapsack of comments, Batman o_0

    Anyway, to chip in my 5c.

    I love my PC, it’s my primary gaming platform that I spend 99% of my time on. Mostly because you don’t get serious flight sims on consoles. Or a mouse & keyboard. Yes, you’re constantly upgrading – well, a biggish upgrade every few years or so for probably about the same cost as a console – and they can be complicated, & easy to break if you fiddle. But they do more of what I want than a console can, & I can *work* on it too.

    I also own both an XBox 360 & a PS3, and both have some fantastic games on them. I barely ever use either of them, but that’s not because of any inherent problem with them. They’re just less suited to what my entertainment & gaming needs are.

    I’ve spent a metric crapload on upgrading my PC & buying expensive peripherals for it (R3k for a TrackIR, R7.5k for a Thrustmaster Warthog…….. /cry), and will be blowing about 7k on a new graphics card & third monitor at the end of the year. And probably about R4k on the Occulus Rift when it’s released. So yeah, there’s no denying that PC gaming can be frighteningly expensive, especially in niche stuff like flight sims.

    But it’s also a personal choice to make it that expensive. If you’re into “mainstream gaming” that needs a mid range graphics card & CPU, a keyboard & mouse (and maaaaaybe a gamepad, if you want one), & so on? You’ll manage just fine for 4-5 years, maybe longer, on a PC that’ll cost you about the same as an XBox One is looking to set you back. And you’ll be paying R200 less for the games for it, at full retail price, and completely ignoring Steam / GoG / Humble Bundle sales. And can do a whole lot more with it, besides gaming.

    So, it boils down to your needs & interests for the most part if you think about it. The relative cost is very much secondary to, and pretty much a direct function of, those two factors.

    Like I say, PC is king for me for what I want it for.

    But the consoles certainly have their place. I own both the 360 & PS3 (prefer the ‘Box, if only for the controller, but there’s nothing wrong with the PS3 at all), and I’ll be getting both the XBox One & PS4 along the way.

    Now.

    Can we all play nicely about this for once?

    Reply

    • Argentil

      July 11, 2013 at 11:43

      The discussions have been tidy and informative so far.

      There are a few exaggerations in your argument, but you are right in that as the highest end denominator, you gain most from having all three, and if you had to choose one, the PC would benefit you most (especially this gen where we’ll likely be seeing former platform exclusives porting over to PC).

      Reply

    • Trevor Davies

      July 11, 2013 at 11:43

      You may have a “Well said” too.

      Reply

    • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

      July 11, 2013 at 11:46

      Well said. You said what I was trying to say way down below. Except my stuff almost amounts to a book’s worth lol. You were short and to the point.

      Give this man a bells!

      Reply

      • BacchusZA

        July 11, 2013 at 11:48

        Heh it’d be a Ballentines for preference, but thanks anyway.

        The good news is I’m on leave, & I’m having one right now – I’m on leave, so daytime drinking FTW!!! 😀

        Reply

        • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

          July 11, 2013 at 11:51

          Bah! Jack, Johnny and Chivas. The only way to go!

          Reply

          • BacchusZA

            July 11, 2013 at 11:56

            Bourbon? To paraphrase a character from a certain popular gaming franchise, bourbon is for sycophants & the products of incest 😛
            (Kidding btw, though I do prefer Jim Beam).

            Johnny is quite nice though, I enjoy it from time to time. Chivas is also very nice, but on a government salary, that’s a 13th cheque kind of treat, rather than a regular drink 🙂

          • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

            July 11, 2013 at 11:58

            Yeah, I’m with you on the 13th cheque issue haha.

            Bah who cares! Whiskey FTW!

          • BacchusZA

            July 11, 2013 at 12:00

            Whiskey is like boobs.

            Proof that there is a G_D, and that He loves us, and wants us to be happy.

  27. Sebastian Stroud

    July 11, 2013 at 11:46

    OH BECAUSE YOU USE PC’S TO MAKE CONSOLE GAMES DON’T YOU? Just because you can drag and drop items doesn’t make it better. Or select multiple icons at a time… YOH! What skill!

    Reply

    • Trevor Davies

      July 11, 2013 at 11:49

      Multitasking is for the indecisive!

      Reply

      • TiMsTeR1033

        July 11, 2013 at 11:50

        back in your box!!! be a good lad now..

        Reply

        • Trevor Davies

          July 11, 2013 at 11:55

          …but…but 🙁

          Reply

      • Argentil

        July 11, 2013 at 11:50

        How insightful.

        Reply

  28. Gavin Mannion

    July 11, 2013 at 12:15

    Okay okay I can see when I’ve been beaten.. Zoe gets most comments of the week

    Reply

    • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

      July 11, 2013 at 12:19

      Ya think?

      Reply

    • Unavengedavo

      July 11, 2013 at 12:26

      Even though most of the comments have drifted completely off topic… Personally I think we are just filling the comments with pointless garble to push up the numbers to see Zoe as an ION 😛

      Reply

  29. Mark Treloar

    July 11, 2013 at 12:24

    Erm, but the Mac is a PC?

    Reply

    • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

      July 11, 2013 at 12:25

      It can be classified as one. But no one cares about Macs (unless its a BigMac) hence no one even thinks about em

      Reply

  30. Johnnie Finn

    July 12, 2013 at 04:40

    This article reads like a message board post. Lazy indeed.

    Reply

  31. Thats_how_I_Troll

    July 12, 2013 at 10:03

    Mac is for people that cannot think creatively so Apple has to tell them to do things their way… MAC is like a woman in an abusive relationship… They thought he would change…

    Reply

  32. AfroSaxon

    July 14, 2013 at 18:47

    Stating the obvious….

    Reply

  33. ffsdaf

    August 28, 2013 at 15:36

    Console gaming is a waste of time and money, there is no need to constantly update your hardware for the newest games anyone claiming it is is just lying, instead of giving 500+ dollars or euros out for an fucking console you can make a killer rig with it and beat any console anywhere.

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