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Windows 10 won’t play games that use SafeDisc Or Securom DRM

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Yesterday, Alessandro cautioned that Windows 10 might have the ability to put an end to video game piracy, with terms and conditions that allows Microsoft to stop counterfeit games from working. That could pose a problem for those who want to play legitimate copies of a handful of games from a decade ago; specifically games that rely on particularly nasty and draconian digital rights management systems Safedisc and Securom.

There are reports that certain implementations of those much maligned bits of security won’t work in Microsoft’s newest operating systems, because they pose too much of a security risk. Speaking at Gamescom, Microsoft’s Boris Schneider-Johne clarified the situation (via Rock, Paper Shotgun).

“Everything that ran in Windows 7 should also run in Windows 10. There are just two silly exceptions: antivirus software and stuff that’s deeply embedded into the system needs updating – but the developers are on it already – and then there are old games on CD-Rom that have DRM.

This DRM stuff is also deeply embedded in your system, and that’s where Windows 10 says “sorry, we cannot allow that, because that would be a possible loophole for computer viruses.” That’s why there are a couple of games from 2003-2008 with Securom, etc. that simply don’t run without a no-CD patch or some such. We can just not support that if it’s a possible danger for our users. There are a couple of patches from developers already, and there is stuff like GOG where you’ll find versions of those games that work.”

Old games using that sort of copy protection – which includes stuff like Crimson Skies, Grand Theft Auto 3, Microsoft Flight Simulator 2004 and The Sims – won’t work on Windows 10 without a patch to remove the copy protection – either from the game developers, or through less savoury means. Unfortunately, patches obtained through those means might be blocked by Windows. One option to play these games again is to head on over to Good old games. 

As RPS points out though, there are legal, mostly safe ways of enabling the necessary drivers to get the DRM working again:

“…you can download software which will apparently do it or learn how to do it yourself. If you choose this route it’ll leave a watermark, though you can also read how to remove that here.”

Once again, it’s a case of DRM getting in the way and becoming a pain for people who actually pay for their games.

Last Updated: August 18, 2015

177 Comments

  1. Alien Emperor Trevor

    August 18, 2015 at 12:05

    “One option to play these games again is to” …. to what? The suspense is killing me! 😉

    Reply

    • Captain JJ Fantasticus

      August 18, 2015 at 12:08

      XD

      Reply

    • Captain JJ Fantasticus

      August 18, 2015 at 12:08

      XD

      Reply

    • Dutch Matrix

      August 18, 2015 at 12:09

      Who would want to play 10 year old games? Oh wait. That is all that PC gamers have…

      Reply

      • Kromas,powered by windows 10.

        August 18, 2015 at 12:10

        Well that is cause 10 years ago we already had HD. 😛

        Reply

        • Dutch Matrix

          August 18, 2015 at 12:11

          Hard Drives? Fine. I will give you that one…

          Reply

        • Captain JJ Fantasticus

          August 18, 2015 at 12:19

          I actually had a talk with a pc elitist the other day. He was going on about how I am a bad pc gamer for using a controller on ARPG games. Imagine how difficult it was for me to explain to him that there were controllers available for pc even before the mouse was available for pc.

          Reply

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            August 18, 2015 at 12:21

            lol

          • Dutch Matrix

            August 18, 2015 at 12:22

            Has he tried playing Mortal Kombat or Injustice on a Keyboard only? I never felt so dumb in my life…

          • Captain JJ Fantasticus

            August 18, 2015 at 12:23

            Oh man. I can only imagine.

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            August 18, 2015 at 12:29

            I was playing MK9 with kb only. Wasn’t particularly challenging.

          • Captain JJ Fantasticus

            August 18, 2015 at 12:30

            I’ve got that MK Komplete 1-3 on Steam. It uses GFWL. I don’t play it because it takes more time to get in than you actually thought of spending playing it.

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            August 18, 2015 at 12:33

            haha, I was about to put that in my shopping cart when I saw it used GFWL. No thanks.

          • Captain JJ Fantasticus

            August 18, 2015 at 12:30

            I’ve got that MK Komplete 1-3 on Steam. It uses GFWL. I don’t play it because it takes more time to get in than you actually thought of spending playing it.

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            August 18, 2015 at 12:29

            I was playing MK9 with kb only. Wasn’t particularly challenging.

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            August 18, 2015 at 12:29

            I was playing MK9 with kb only. Wasn’t particularly challenging.

          • Brady miaau

            August 18, 2015 at 12:29

            First MK I played 2, 2, was keyboard all the way. It was fine. Cause we did not know better…….

          • Mossel

            August 18, 2015 at 14:32

            First MK I played was at the corner fish and chips shop!

          • Brady miaau

            August 18, 2015 at 12:29

            First MK I played 2, 2, was keyboard all the way. It was fine. Cause we did not know better…….

          • Brady miaau

            August 18, 2015 at 12:29

            First MK I played 2, 2, was keyboard all the way. It was fine. Cause we did not know better…….

          • Bagel

            August 18, 2015 at 12:30

            Any of you tried to play fifa with the keyboard? if you can effectively i will give you a cookie.

          • Aries

            August 18, 2015 at 12:33

            Fifa 99, bring it

          • Bagel

            August 18, 2015 at 12:33

            Bring the cookie? okay ._.

          • Mossel

            August 18, 2015 at 14:31

            Fifa 99 4lyf yo.
            Funk soul brother right about now!

          • Captain JJ Fantasticus

            August 18, 2015 at 15:36

            Haha. Oh the memories.

          • Bagel

            August 18, 2015 at 12:30

            Any of you tried to play fifa with the keyboard? if you can effectively i will give you a cookie.

          • Bagel

            August 18, 2015 at 12:30

            Any of you tried to play fifa with the keyboard? if you can effectively i will give you a cookie.

          • WitWolfy

            August 18, 2015 at 13:02

            PC is where WB games go to die…

      • Captain JJ Fantasticus

        August 18, 2015 at 12:11

        We have the option to play them, which is wonderful. Some of the 10+ year old games still beat the shit out of most “AAA” games.

        Reply

      • Alien Emperor Trevor

        August 18, 2015 at 12:17

        Well it’s either that or playing remakes of 2 year old games. ;P

        Reply

        • Dutch Matrix

          August 18, 2015 at 12:18

          BUT I MUST SEE LARA’S BEWBS IN HD!!! I MUST!!!!

          Reply

      • WitWolfy

        August 18, 2015 at 13:01

        “nobody cares about BC” Oh wait….

        Reply

    • Kromas,powered by windows 10.

      August 18, 2015 at 12:09

      Steam/GoG

      Reply

    • RinceThis

      August 18, 2015 at 13:04

      Don’t be mean…

      Reply

  2. Alien Emperor Trevor

    August 18, 2015 at 12:05

    “One option to play these games again is to” …. to what? The suspense is killing me! 😉

    Reply

  3. Captain JJ Fantasticus

    August 18, 2015 at 12:10

    I upgraded to 8.1 from 7 about a week ago, so I think I can wait a bit on 10.
    As far as pirated copies go, meh. 90% of my games are on Steam, the rest is on GOG, Origin and U(can’t)Play. No piracy there. 🙂

    Reply

    • Kromas,powered by windows 10.

      August 18, 2015 at 12:12

      I am way more worried about my media player or any 3rd party software that may contend with a paid for or an add heavy app. MS may just want to “block” it so you have very little choice.

      Reply

      • Captain JJ Fantasticus

        August 18, 2015 at 12:16

        That’s very true. Didn’t think of that.
        People will finally have to start paying for WinZip. 😉

        Reply

        • Kromas,powered by windows 10.

          August 18, 2015 at 12:17

          7Zip.

          Reply

          • Hammersteyn

            August 18, 2015 at 12:18

            Yup!

          • Captain JJ Fantasticus

            August 18, 2015 at 12:20

            That’s what I use. But WinZip’s “close” button on the license tab must be so overused. 😀

          • Brady miaau

            August 18, 2015 at 12:25

            BUT it needs better UI integration

          • Captain JJ Fantasticus

            August 18, 2015 at 12:26

            Always when I use the “extract to” function on that thing (no matter what folder I set) it seems to extract my files into Narnia. Now I just say, “extract here”.

          • Hammersteyn

            August 18, 2015 at 12:30

            Drag and drop your files?

          • Brady miaau

            August 18, 2015 at 12:31

            efficiency is key for me. I do not always like that

          • Hammersteyn

            August 18, 2015 at 12:30

            Drag and drop your files?

          • Hammersteyn

            August 18, 2015 at 12:30

            Drag and drop your files?

          • Captain JJ Fantasticus

            August 18, 2015 at 12:26

            Always when I use the “extract to” function on that thing (no matter what folder I set) it seems to extract my files into Narnia. Now I just say, “extract here”.

          • Kromas,powered by windows 10.

            August 18, 2015 at 12:30

            I does … then again I am one of the 6 people in the world who own a valid license for winrar. 😛

          • Brady miaau

            August 18, 2015 at 12:30

            7. Well, the company. But 7

          • Kromas,powered by windows 10.

            August 18, 2015 at 12:32

            All my company gave me is a license for Teamviewer. 🙂

          • Captain JJ Fantasticus

            August 18, 2015 at 12:34

            They gave me an option between using my laptop’s mouse tracking pad or buying my own external mouse.

          • Kromas,powered by windows 10.

            August 18, 2015 at 12:41

            The laptop I got when I joined was missing the / key. Would have been fine unless you work in IT. Just my luck.

          • Captain JJ Fantasticus

            August 18, 2015 at 12:42

            Ah man. That’s terrible.

          • Kromas,powered by windows 10.

            August 18, 2015 at 12:44

            Nothing a good old USB keyboard couldn’t fix.

          • Brady miaau

            August 18, 2015 at 12:54

            Buy the external mouse.

          • Captain JJ Fantasticus

            August 18, 2015 at 12:55

            I did. Bought an entire desktop set because I need the numpad too 😀

          • Brady miaau

            August 18, 2015 at 12:56

            Laptops without numpads. Crap.

          • Kromas,powered by windows 10.

            August 18, 2015 at 12:57

            Laptops. Crap.

            Then again I was always a Desktop Gaming Rig fan(the other type before the jokes come in).

          • Brady miaau

            August 18, 2015 at 12:58

            I like laptops for work. Entire team has laptops, pretty good ones too. Must be able to run run virtual machines and all

          • Kromas,powered by windows 10.

            August 18, 2015 at 13:00

            Yeah for work. But we should really not be talking work on a gaming site. 😛

          • Brady miaau

            August 18, 2015 at 13:02

            I want a laptop to do both. Fit for purpose, not massive gaming rig. I am happy with that. I want a few devices, not many.

          • Kromas,powered by windows 10.

            August 18, 2015 at 13:05

            I already walk around with a watch phone,a normal phone, a laptop and a Tablet. My power system at home is just chaos with all the cables. 😛

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            August 18, 2015 at 12:59

            You sound EXHAUSTING!

            I’m a rebel & don’t read stuff in brackets!

          • Kromas,powered by windows 10.

            August 18, 2015 at 13:00

            Rebel without a cause!

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            August 18, 2015 at 12:56

            Those number pads are handy for laptops. Now I’ve got a while docking station setup with a decent kb.

          • Brady miaau

            August 18, 2015 at 13:00

            I just have a massive 17.3 inch dell laptop, with full keyboard. Is big and heavy, but works well for me.

          • Brady miaau

            August 18, 2015 at 12:55

            I try very hard to make sure all license are up to date and that we have what we need. BUT we cannot just buy software for each person.

          • Kromas,powered by windows 10.

            August 18, 2015 at 12:56

            Oh I agree.

          • Brady miaau

            August 18, 2015 at 12:30

            7. Well, the company. But 7

          • Mossel

            August 18, 2015 at 14:34

            So you own 16.67% of the company then?

          • Kromas,powered by windows 10.

            August 18, 2015 at 12:30

            I does … then again I am one of the 6 people in the world who own a valid license for winrar. 😛

          • Kromas,powered by windows 10.

            August 18, 2015 at 12:30

            I does … then again I am one of the 6 people in the world who own a valid license for winrar. 😛

  4. Hammersteyn

    August 18, 2015 at 12:12

    Windows execs will blame people for wanting to play games that’s over ten years old and not buying XBOX Ones

    Reply

  5. Ranting Raptor

    August 18, 2015 at 12:14

    Wait, so let me get this striaght. YOu can’t play pirated software… But you can’t play legit software that’s a bit older? Which means you need a crack for said software that will stop windows from playing that software…. Wait what????

    Seriously MS?

    Reply

    • Dutch Matrix

      August 18, 2015 at 12:14

      Stop before the planet’s core encounters a Runtime error 6: Overflow…

      Reply

      • Brady miaau

        August 18, 2015 at 12:24

        Then perhaps the variable should have been properly initialised….

        or sized….

        Or VB 6.0 should not be used no more.

        Reply

    • Hammersteyn

      August 18, 2015 at 12:15

      Better start clearing that backlog.

      Reply

      • Dutch Matrix

        August 18, 2015 at 12:15

        I can send him some 2-ply

        Reply

        • Brady miaau

          August 18, 2015 at 12:24

          Yeah, I got a cheap supplier of good 2 ply.Will easily cover the whole screen. Backlog problem solved.

          Reply

      • Ranting Raptor

        August 18, 2015 at 12:24

        lol. Nope. Just not upgrading.

        Reply

    • Captain JJ Fantasticus

      August 18, 2015 at 12:32

      So you’re a Win 7 guy then. 7 for life, you might say.

      Reply

      • Bagel

        August 18, 2015 at 12:36

        74lyf as they say.

        Reply

        • Ranting Raptor

          August 18, 2015 at 12:47

          Nooooooooooooooooooooooo

          Reply

        • Alien Emperor Trevor

          August 18, 2015 at 12:54

          74lyf… 7-4=3… 3lyf – HL3 CONFIRMED!

          Reply

          • Captain JJ Fantasticus

            August 18, 2015 at 12:55

            O_o

          • Ranting Raptor

            August 18, 2015 at 12:59

            wooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

      • Ranting Raptor

        August 18, 2015 at 12:43

        nope. 8.1

        And before you even say it yes I realise:
        8.1
        8-1=7

        Reply

        • Captain JJ Fantasticus

          August 18, 2015 at 12:44

          Haha. I would not even have thought of that. But thanks for making it easy for me ;P

          Reply

          • Ranting Raptor

            August 18, 2015 at 12:45

            It’s a pleasure 🙂

  6. Ranting Raptor

    August 18, 2015 at 12:14

    I knew legit users were going to get shafted somewhere.

    Reply

  7. Bagel

    August 18, 2015 at 12:14

    Black & White 2 Great city builder/God game, released by LionHead Studios, now defunct.

    GoG = Not for sale
    Amazon = Only physical pre-used copies
    Steam = Not for sale
    G2A = Not for sale.

    Literally the only place to aquire this game is on torrent sites. Great going MS. Welldone.

    No really. Fuck you MS

    EDIT: Same goes for the original GodFather game. Cannot Legally get it anywhere.

    Reply

    • Captain JJ Fantasticus

      August 18, 2015 at 12:16

      Stronghold HD, which is on Steam, doesn’t work either.

      Reply

      • Bagel

        August 18, 2015 at 12:19

        atleast its on steam haha. Try and find a digital copy of B&W2
        If you can i would happily purchase it. But to this day i cannot find it. The only thing that is left to do is illegally download the game. Win7 4lyf

        Reply

        • Captain JJ Fantasticus

          August 18, 2015 at 12:20

          Yea man. That sucks. Luckily I can find most of my old favourites on GOG still.

          Reply

          • Bagel

            August 18, 2015 at 12:22

            I tried to get Godfather aswell. no luck. There is actually a rather large list of games that you cant find digitally. NONO BUT THE PIRATES…. fuck they the only ones who can fix my problem :<

          • Dutch Matrix

            August 18, 2015 at 12:23

            Star Trek Voyager Elite Force and Star Trek Elite Force 2. There be my problems…

          • Brady miaau

            August 18, 2015 at 12:27

            Hmm. I do not like them. Only trek game I liked, really played was Birth of Federation. Even spent a month last year trying to get it to work properly on Windows 8.1. Worked great till between turns 100 and 130 (just when the slow start phase is getting wound down) it hangs. Every time, once it hangs once, it will always hang on that turn.

            Damn.

          • Brady miaau

            August 18, 2015 at 12:27

            Hmm. I do not like them. Only trek game I liked, really played was Birth of Federation. Even spent a month last year trying to get it to work properly on Windows 8.1. Worked great till between turns 100 and 130 (just when the slow start phase is getting wound down) it hangs. Every time, once it hangs once, it will always hang on that turn.

            Damn.

          • Bagel

            August 18, 2015 at 12:28

            I looked for you, the torrents are there. No seeders tho ;-;

          • Bagel

            August 18, 2015 at 12:28

            I looked for you, the torrents are there. No seeders tho ;-;

          • Bagel

            August 18, 2015 at 12:28

            I looked for you, the torrents are there. No seeders tho ;-;

          • Brady miaau

            August 18, 2015 at 12:28

            Do you want them? Ahem.

          • Bagel

            August 18, 2015 at 12:29

            Piracy like drugs is bad m’kay

          • Captain JJ Fantasticus

            August 18, 2015 at 12:31

            You get this upvote for using “m’kay” XD

          • Bagel

            August 18, 2015 at 12:29

            Piracy like drugs is bad m’kay

          • Bagel

            August 18, 2015 at 12:29

            Piracy like drugs is bad m’kay

          • Dutch Matrix

            August 18, 2015 at 12:29

            Ahem Cough Yes Cough Cough

          • Brady miaau

            August 18, 2015 at 12:30

            Let me look around at home. Maybe….. just maybe…….

          • Brady miaau

            August 18, 2015 at 12:30

            Let me look around at home. Maybe….. just maybe…….

          • Dutch Matrix

            August 18, 2015 at 12:29

            Ahem Cough Yes Cough Cough

          • Dutch Matrix

            August 18, 2015 at 12:29

            Ahem Cough Yes Cough Cough

          • Brady miaau

            August 18, 2015 at 12:28

            Do you want them? Ahem.

          • Brady miaau

            August 18, 2015 at 12:28

            Do you want them? Ahem.

          • Captain JJ Fantasticus

            August 18, 2015 at 12:25

            I tried NFS Underground 2 the other day again, so make myself feel better about the new NFS2015. On a widescreen you now have an ultra lowrider. Racing games really don’t age well. I suppose it’s going to be an issue modding games as well with Win10 then?

          • Bagel

            August 18, 2015 at 12:27

            The best thing about NFSU2 it can be played on a flash stick. Damn college nostalgia.

            Imagine if NFSU2 was released now.
            New doors? DLC
            New engine? DLC
            Low-Rider? DLC
            NoS? Get it free if you pre-order.

          • Captain JJ Fantasticus

            August 18, 2015 at 12:28

            Haha. Don’t forget the neon lights.
            I’m waiting to see if EA purposefully kept manual transmission out of the game so they could sell it as DLC afterwards.

          • Bagel

            August 18, 2015 at 12:28

            HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

            Oh shit :’)

          • Bagel

            August 18, 2015 at 12:28

            HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

            Oh shit :’)

          • Bagel

            August 18, 2015 at 12:28

            HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

            Oh shit :’)

          • Captain JJ Fantasticus

            August 18, 2015 at 12:28

            Haha. Don’t forget the neon lights.
            I’m waiting to see if EA purposefully kept manual transmission out of the game so they could sell it as DLC afterwards.

          • Bagel

            August 18, 2015 at 12:27

            The best thing about NFSU2 it can be played on a flash stick. Damn college nostalgia.

            Imagine if NFSU2 was released now.
            New doors? DLC
            New engine? DLC
            Low-Rider? DLC
            NoS? Get it free if you pre-order.

          • Bagel

            August 18, 2015 at 12:32

            Regarding your modding comment. That is a great question.
            More so, i wonder if there will be any issue’s using an emulator?

          • Captain JJ Fantasticus

            August 18, 2015 at 12:33

            I wonder. Because I use mods from different sites. Like those brilliant STALKER mods. Won’t Win10 see those as “questionable content”?

          • Bagel

            August 18, 2015 at 12:35

            That is true.

            Lets move forward 5 years ye?
            Microsoft aquires the hardware company Razor

            All hardware that is not Razor is now “Unauthorized Hardware”

            (tinfoiling so hard right now)

          • Captain JJ Fantasticus

            August 18, 2015 at 12:36

            But….but my precious GX.

          • Kromas,powered by windows 10.

            August 18, 2015 at 12:43

            Would be funnier if they acquire AMD (cause they wanna). All Nvidia hardware is unauthorized.

            I know this sounds cruel but I would be laughing sooooooo hard.

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            August 18, 2015 at 12:52

            The way it’s meant to be played *crash to desktop* huehuehue

          • Kromas,powered by windows 10.

            August 18, 2015 at 12:53

            That already happens without MS interference. 😛

          • Ranting Raptor

            August 18, 2015 at 12:43

            This is all going to end in massive tears for legit users

          • Captain JJ Fantasticus

            August 18, 2015 at 12:44

            Sounds like it to me the more I think about it.

          • Ranting Raptor

            August 18, 2015 at 12:46

            DRM always bites the people who play by the rules and this is the worst form of DRM I’ve ever seen

          • Captain JJ Fantasticus

            August 18, 2015 at 12:48

            Very true. I’m all for fighting piracy, but when it gets like this then they’re not trying to prevent piracy and guarding the legit users, they’re trying to fight piracy…no matter who gets caught in the crossfire. That’s not a sustainable solution.

    • DragonSpirit009

      August 18, 2015 at 12:58

      Speaking of Black & White 2… I discovered that I have it over the weekend. Never knew O.O

      Reply

      • Bagel

        August 18, 2015 at 13:14

        It really was a game before its time, i suggest playing it, you will enjoy it.

        Also. If you have a normal name as your profile name in windows, if you playing the evil campaign it will whisper the name of your account, in a spooky way! really really cool game

        Reply

        • DragonSpirit009

          August 18, 2015 at 13:18

          Will definitely give it a try… when I go home again that is!

          Reply

  8. Hammersteyn

    August 18, 2015 at 12:18

    Pirates always get the last laugh it seems.

    Reply

  9. Kromas,powered by windows 10.

    August 18, 2015 at 12:39

    What we all are forgetting is Microsoft’s Policy on changing their policies.

    Week one: Can’t be done
    Week two: Oh yeah we did it.

    Reply

    • Ranting Raptor

      August 18, 2015 at 12:45

      Week one
      MS:You can’t just push a button
      Internet: RAGE

      Week two
      MS: We pushed the button
      Internet: RAGE ABOUT THE LIES

      Reply

      • Kromas,powered by windows 10.

        August 18, 2015 at 12:49

        Well that is inherently what the internet is for.

        If only we could all Adhere to Wheaton’s Law.

        Reply

        • Captain JJ Fantasticus

          August 18, 2015 at 12:51

          Agreed

          Reply

        • Ranting Raptor

          August 18, 2015 at 12:59

          If only

          Reply

    • Alien Emperor Trevor

      August 18, 2015 at 13:09

      Never forget.

      Reply

      • Kromas,powered by windows 10.

        August 18, 2015 at 13:13

        Never gonna give you up ….

        Reply

        • Brady miaau

          August 18, 2015 at 13:25

          Ah. That is just terrible. What memories you conjure

          Reply

          • Kromas,powered by windows 10.

            August 18, 2015 at 13:26

            Never gonna let you down
            Never gonna fool around or desert you. 🙂

          • Brady miaau

            August 18, 2015 at 13:28

            My Achy-Breaky Heart.

  10. WitWolfy

    August 18, 2015 at 12:51

    And thats why I only game on consoles.

    Reply

    • Kromas,powered by windows 10.

      August 18, 2015 at 12:55

      You mean those things that are getting so close to pcs that they will start running the same software?

      Win 10 coming to Xbox one November. 😛

      Reply

      • WitWolfy

        August 18, 2015 at 12:56

        I’m just waiting for that BC list to become a reality, Win 10 is just a bonus.

        Reply

        • Brady miaau

          August 18, 2015 at 13:01

          Me too. Really. Mass effect…… First game I replay.

          Reply

          • Kromas,powered by windows 10.

            August 18, 2015 at 13:02

            Good man. I can’t upvote this enough.

          • WitWolfy

            August 18, 2015 at 13:05

            Seriously??? Add me on XBL then I’ll just invite you to the preview dash.. ME works off the bat.

          • Brady miaau

            August 18, 2015 at 13:24

            Will adding me to the preview program have any slight possibility of stuffing up the Xbox, even for a little while? It is our TV and media centre, complete. Must not take the chance to piss off the wife.

            she said it is my choice, which means if it goes wrong……

            What do you think?

          • WitWolfy

            August 18, 2015 at 13:51

            Nah wont do jack. It the same dash same features with added invisible fairy dust. I havent had any problems thus far. You get the invite download a 30 meg app, then 3 days later you get like a 2GB update and WHAM BAM you’re in.

          • Brady miaau

            August 18, 2015 at 14:41

            Ok. Will see about that tonight.

            Know the names of a classical composer, good piano pieces? you will.

            Not Handel, not Back.

      • Captain JJ Fantasticus

        August 18, 2015 at 12:57

        Funny enough, there’s an add on my screen right now for the PS4 1tb – “The Ultimate 1TB Edition”
        Welcome to 2005 PS. So pc’s were ultimate ten years ago then? ;P

        Reply

        • WitWolfy

          August 18, 2015 at 12:58

          I so wish Sony would start going external storage like MS did! My 500GB HDD is bleeding!

          Reply

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            August 18, 2015 at 13:00

            They will, as soon as they figure out how to rip you a new one with the price.

          • Captain JJ Fantasticus

            August 18, 2015 at 13:15

            Yes. As external as your power brick is 😀

          • Bagel

            August 18, 2015 at 13:16

            Dont you wish you could just jump inside the PS4 and add your own HDD

            OH WAIT.

            im sorry ;-;

        • Kromas,powered by windows 10.

          August 18, 2015 at 12:59

          Well. To be fair. I only just got a 500GB SSD. Then again I am fairly positive their 1TB is still mechanical.

          Reply

          • Captain JJ Fantasticus

            August 18, 2015 at 13:15

            It’s still HDD yes. I don’t have an SSD yet myself though. Not yet, at least.

          • Kromas,powered by windows 10.

            August 18, 2015 at 13:19

            OS drive 120GB SDD
            Origin Drive (+GoG Galaxy Drive) 256GB SSD
            Steam Drive (+Battlenet) 500GB SSD
            Temp Downloads and Storage Drive 4TB HDD.

            I am a huge fan of SSD’s. 🙂

          • Captain JJ Fantasticus

            August 18, 2015 at 13:26

            Dude. That….that’s awesome.
            My wallet is sadly not a big fan of SSD’s :/

          • Brady miaau

            August 18, 2015 at 13:27

            Also, a huge fan of spending crap loads of money on those disks?

            In your opinion, is the price worth the performance on the non OS disks? Gaming vs media vs Work?

          • Kromas,powered by windows 10.

            August 18, 2015 at 13:32

            Work …. no
            Gaming … depends. If you play anything ea or anything EA (lol) I suggest an SSD.
            Games I can attest to being far better at load times on an SSD. DayZ,Ark,Wolf:Old Blood and New Order,WoW (not that much but still special after porting),Massive improvements on Kerbal and Massive improvements on Star Citizen.
            Media … meh unless you create media. I record my gaming sessions and do some video editing and I would not touch anything but a SSD for that.

          • Captain JJ Fantasticus

            August 18, 2015 at 13:42

            ARK needs all the help it can get to run smoother

          • Kromas,powered by windows 10.

            August 18, 2015 at 14:10

            Indeed it does. Still one of the best games I have played this year. I already have a Survival of the Fittest server running as well and we are having a tourney this weekend.

          • Captain JJ Fantasticus

            August 18, 2015 at 14:15

            I’ve played about an hour, and loved it, just waiting for my friends to join me. I can see I’m going to spend countless hours on it. And the devs are awesome.

          • Captain JJ Fantasticus

            August 18, 2015 at 13:42

            ARK needs all the help it can get to run smoother

    • Brady miaau

      August 18, 2015 at 13:29

      I try, where I can

      Civ V. Rome Total War. Dawn of War.
      Kotor. Civ V. Civ Beyond Earth (100+ hours in)

      Reply

      • Captain JJ Fantasticus

        August 18, 2015 at 13:43

        One day, I tell you, one day I will buy Beyond Earth!

        Reply

  11. Lardus-For the Emperor!

    August 18, 2015 at 13:03

    Hmmmm…so I have to buy the game again on GoG or Steam? Won’t upgrade if my Dawn of War does not work!

    Reply

  12. RinceThis

    August 18, 2015 at 13:04

    LOL I’ve heard of the 180 on the Xbox One, but on the PC now too?

    Reply

    • Alien Emperor Trevor

      August 18, 2015 at 13:05

      It’s part of their new-found commitment to PC gaming. Thanks Phil!

      Reply

      • RinceThis

        August 18, 2015 at 13:07

        Ahh, man he is good. His commitment to increasing gaming by removing games that can be played. I mean, most people wouldn’t even think of that!

        Reply

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