Home Gaming FFD: Are the new consoles making PCs more appealing?

FFD: Are the new consoles making PCs more appealing?

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There are five major advantages when it comes to gaming on a console. Firstly, consoles are a lot cheaper than going out and buying a new PC. They offer a fantastic price to performance ratio, offering better visuals than you’d get from similarly priced PC hardware. With consoles, you pop the game in, and it plays. No installs, no fussing with patches and nonsense. You get to sit on your couch and play, on a large TV with a confortable controller.  And most importantly everything just works. Only hardly any of that is true, or exclusive to consoles anymore.

Let’s look at the first points, the price and price-to-performance ratio . A brand new shiny PS4 will cost you, with the current RRP, just shy of R6800. If you don’t already have a functional PC, then yes, buying a brand new PC with all of its necessary periphery will cost you more than that. You could, however, build a perfectly capable PC that outperforms the PS4 in games like Battlefield 4 for the same amount of money.

On to the next. With both of the new “next gen” consoles, games have to be installed before you can play them, removing one of the very things that made consoles awesome in the first place. Yes, on the PS4 the install time is hardly noticeable, and the game continues to install in the background once it’s playable – but on the One some games take over half an hour before you get to shoot at stuff.

As for sitting on the couch and playing, pretty much any capable PC has an HDMI out, and will happily hook up to your TV. There are innumerable options to allow for controllers to be used, and Steam’s Big Picture mode even gives the PC a console-like interface for managing and launching games. On top of that, Steam’s new in-home streaming means I don’t even have to move my PC to the TV; I can stream my games from my more powerful desktop to my weaker, TV-connected laptop and play the library of games installed on the more powerful system.

And lastly, no..everything doesn’t just work. As we’ve seen, the new consoles need to be hard-reset on the odd occasion, with huge, gigabyte-sized patches getting in the way of everything.

Consoles, it seems, are becoming more like PC’s, while PC’s become more like consoles. Which has struck the better middle ground? Tell us! are you eyeing out a PS4, but thinking it makes a PC upgrade look like a better deal? Has the price of the new consoles and their expensive games pushed you more towards playing on PC?

Last Updated: March 14, 2014

321 Comments

  1. Spathi

    March 14, 2014 at 10:38

    For now, while the consoles are still expensive, yes, a PC upgrade is very very tempting. A new PC though, no. I disagree that you can build a PC for R 6800 that outperforms a PS4. Even if it was possible, in a year or two the developers will only start extracting and properly using the power of the consoles, as per each generation.

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    • Hammersteyn

      March 14, 2014 at 10:42

      That 6800 is just the box? No windows,screen or peripherals

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      • Spathi

        March 14, 2014 at 10:43

        Then yes, that may be possible. But software must be included otherwise you can’t game!

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        • Exalted Overlord Geoffrey Tim

          March 14, 2014 at 10:45

          Yeah, it’s just the hardware.

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          • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

            March 14, 2014 at 11:00

            Although, Steam does work on linux these days, and you can shave at least R2000 off the PC price if you go with Solaris or Ubuntu.

          • Sageville

            March 14, 2014 at 11:06

            Hmmm, but when you say that it also highlights that as a PC user you do need alot more “Techie” knowledge, personally I’m quite up-to-date on most tech but I would know the first thing about getting and installing Ubuntu or the likes.

            As a console user…. well, other than the initial networking setup any kid can figure most of that stuff out. The UI is very user friendly compared to the equivalent PC setup.

          • Anon A Mouse

            March 14, 2014 at 11:11

            These days I barely know where to turn on the laptop. There was a time many moons ago that I will build my own rigs and play around with setups, but as of now I’m all console for my gaming, it is far easier.

          • Skoobaz

            March 14, 2014 at 12:49

            Do you know Linux?

          • Sageville

            March 17, 2014 at 09:47

            Nope

        • Sageville

          March 14, 2014 at 10:58

          Yeah, that Windows is actually quite pricey if you aren’t pirating it….

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          • Spathi

            March 14, 2014 at 10:59

            Found that out the first time ever this year after our company bought Windows 😀

          • Tarisma

            March 14, 2014 at 11:01

            look at what steam is doing with linux. Windows will be irrelevant for gaming in 5 years

        • Kyratic

          March 14, 2014 at 11:04

          I agree that for R6800.00 it is definitely possible to make a rig that can outperform a PS4, software can be gotten hold of for free too, although gaming on ubuntu is tricky, its possible… But lets face facts here. Consoles don’t make PC’s more appealing, PC’s are just naturally more alluring. consoles are the dirty peasants of the gaming world 🙂

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      • Pieter Kruger

        March 14, 2014 at 10:45

        This is a “screen”, use your LED TV like everyone else…..

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        • Hammersteyn

          March 14, 2014 at 10:46

          What if I want to watch TV and game.

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          • Pieter Kruger

            March 14, 2014 at 10:47

            SNAP it! ????

          • RinceIsIngwer

            March 14, 2014 at 10:49

            As in, in half? 😉

          • Mark Treloar

            March 14, 2014 at 13:39

            Get Xboned!

          • Hammersteyn

            March 14, 2014 at 13:45

            lol

      • Macethy

        March 14, 2014 at 10:53

        It’s dumb to argue that a screen is somehow an added expesnse when working out the price of a PC, it should be included in the price like the cost of a HDTV should be included in the price of a next gen console.

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        • Anon A Mouse

          March 14, 2014 at 10:55

          I can’t see why. You don’t have to buy a TV when you buy a console, since you already own one. If you don’t have a PC I’m 99% sure there will be no monitor in you home, thus you actually do need to buy one.

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          • Tarisma

            March 14, 2014 at 10:56

            Just plug your PC into a TV done

          • Mark Treloar

            March 14, 2014 at 13:45

            You’re assuming of course that everyone owns a TV. Also a TV requires that you rent the TV every year an additional cost that does need to be factored in.

        • Spathi

          March 14, 2014 at 10:56

          The counter argument is that most people already have at least one TV in their home to use for, uhm, a TV, while a screens are almost always associated with PC gaming (consoles also though)

          I’m not disagreeing with your sentiment though, but you still can’t build a R 6800 PC, with peripherals and software, excluding a screen, that can outperform the PS4.

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        • Hammersteyn

          March 14, 2014 at 10:56

          But I watch sewende laan. TV is like a fridge

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      • Tarisma

        March 14, 2014 at 10:54

        Just a box

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      • Sir Rants A Lot Llew. Jelly!!!

        March 14, 2014 at 11:11

        Yeah, if you already own a PC and have the Keyboard, mouse and screen then you just need to upgrade the box.

        Not to mention you already have the power supply, chasis, optical drives and hard drives.

        That leaves just the MOBO, CPU, RAM and GFX to upgrade.

        One doesn’t need a 6K graphics card to outperform the PS4. If you spend:

        R2500 – GFX
        R2000 – CPU
        R1500 – MOBO
        R800 – RAM

        There is your R6800 PC upgrade and it will be stronger than the PS4.

        And yes I don’t count screen, keyboard and mouse because you already have that.

        Just like a console owner doesn’t count his TV because he already has one (Console gamers have to buy extra controllers though coz the old ones don’t work. At least the keyboard and mouse will always work on any new pc)

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        • Tarisma

          March 14, 2014 at 11:12

          Spending too much on the MOBO,

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          • Sir Rants A Lot Llew. Jelly!!!

            March 14, 2014 at 11:14

            Yes I am. But I am going for a future proof mobo here and making the point that one can spend wisely to build a stable rig.

            One can spend R800 – R1000 on a mobo and put the extra R500 – R700 in to upping your graphics card to a super-clocked mid range or so.

            That’s the beauty of it. You can always build a rig around any budget and when you are already a PC owner that budget allows for a lot of playing

          • Tarisma

            March 14, 2014 at 11:16

            True. My logic is that my MoBo is so paired with my CPU I treat them as 1 unit when 1 goes so does the other.

          • Sir Rants A Lot Llew. Jelly!!!

            March 14, 2014 at 11:18

            Fair enough and what people seem to forget is that the mobo and CPU are the 2 parts that last the longest performance wise. I high range CPU can last 8 years easy.

          • ToshZA

            March 14, 2014 at 11:45

            Very easily, its usually RAM, HDD and Graphics Card tech that just escalates, forcing you into a new CPU and Mobo upgrade due to needing the new slots.

          • Sir Rants A Lot Llew. Jelly!!!

            March 14, 2014 at 11:50

            GFX card slots not so much. Last change was AGP to PCI-E. That was 10 years or so ago.

            RAM is linked to your CPU. So as long as your CPU can keep it, so can the RAM (Even if it means maybe putting in a bit more at some point).

            My previous machine was an AMD Athlon64 (Single core) with DDR2. It lasted like 8 or so years and I had to up my GFX card once or twice. But the first time was a fried card (or at least bricked. Stupid firmware update) and the 2nd was for performance because I wanted to run on high. Not medium to low anymore lol.

          • ToshZA

            March 14, 2014 at 12:03

            PCIe has gone through 3 iterations now. PCIe 1.0 is not as fast as PCIe 3.0 (the current iteration). This is in the last 9 years. I don’t think PCIe 3.0 cards can run in version 1, while they are compatible with 2. You won’t get the performance you expect though out of the older slot. Ram on the other hand is going DDR4 very soon, and when it does, DDR3 will stop being mass produced and start costing more. This escalates as time goes on, so in say 3 or 4 years from now, DDR3 will be more expensive (inflation and exchange rate considered static for this comparison) than it is now, and availability will be much lower. This has happened to me twice already. CPU used to increase significantly in power over time as well, but right now an i7 (3k and 4k series) is still far more power than you need for any game.

        • Spathi

          March 14, 2014 at 11:23

          It may be stronger, but it won’t perform as well. Have a look at a games like TLOU or Halo 4 and how good it looks on 8 or 9 year old hardware. Developers extract much more performance from consoles over their lifetime.

          Also, RAM prices have gone up quite a bit, think R 800 is a bit low!

          Finally, you have detailed an upgrade, not a new PC. You can leave the screen but still need Windows, a mouse. keyboard, PSU (decent one), and optical drive (blu-ray player).

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          • Sir Rants A Lot Llew. Jelly!!!

            March 14, 2014 at 11:38

            As long as you have a decent PSU you don’t need to upgrade it.

            Ram: R800 can get you a 2x2GB DDR3 paired ram (Yes 4GB is enough because that’s what I run and still my PC doesn’t bottom out because of RAM)

            Windows you should already have from your previous build. Contrary to popular belief microsoft support gladly allow you to re-use your licence key on a different machine if your old one is gone for whatever reason.

            The optical drive one should already have (Blu-ray or otherwise. It’s been out for ages. Chances are slim pc owners haven’t already put in a proper optical drive ages ago)

            You don’t need a mouse and keyboard as you already have one.

            If you are talking about brand new PC from scratch then you can add in:
            R2000 for a 22inch screen
            R800 for a reasonably ok mouse and keyboard combo (one can go far cheaper)
            R1000 for a PSU
            R800 blu-ray optical drive
            R1200 – windows 7 premium

            That ups your price by an additional R5800 if you need to buy a screen as well.

            now for a brand new Console: Now a 32″ TV is about R2400 (if you like Telefunken which has terribad quality).
            Plus whatever it costs for at least 1 extra controller (Consolers help me out on a price here?

            But even without the extra controller (Forever alone gamer) the price gap is R3400.

            That seems a lot, but a console game is what nowadays? R700?

            PC games cost around R400 – R500.

            Let’s take the R500 mark. That’s R200 difference. To make up that deficit one would need to buy 17 games at full retail release price on PC to make up the differance. However, with things like steam sales and things like that, one would need far less game purchases to make up that gap.

            PS: It will perform just as well as a PS4. 60FPS is 60FPS. There are no shades of 60FPS.

          • JasonDK

            March 14, 2014 at 11:49

            Not to mention the fact that if your PC does start to show it’s age, one might be tempted to increase multipliers and clock speeds to squeeze the bit of performance out of your machine, assuming that by this time it’s long past warranty.

          • Sir Rants A Lot Llew. Jelly!!!

            March 14, 2014 at 11:50

            Very good point. Marginal overclocking can overcome a few hiccups as well with aged performance

          • Spathi

            March 14, 2014 at 11:51

            Okay now we are getting somewhere 😀

            The problem then comes in with the following:

            In 5 years, an upgrade (probably only a GPU) will be necessary because developers get lazy and don’t optimize the PC ports, or does not take into account older PCs. With consoles, the developers have no choice, they must optimize and you can’t upgrade your console (if it still works :D).

            Secondly, PSN+ not only gives you “free” games, it also gives you loads of discounts, just like steam. Even if you don’t have PSN+, you still get discounts. Also on that point, when you take the 2nd hand worth of a games (lets make it 50% of the new price), console games aren’t that expensive.

            As per my comment elsewhere in this blob post, I currently believe the new gen consoles are not attractive, but in 2 or 3 years, when a PS4 sets you back *only* R 4500-00 (if Zuma shuts his mouth), then it becomes a real issue.

            PS: A new controller is R 1000, crazy I know.

          • ToshZA

            March 14, 2014 at 12:05

            Here’s the counter to that first bit, with games having to be optimised in a few years for consoles, who’s hardware is already being outperformed by pc’s, then why would you need to upgrade your graphics card for anything other than PC exclusives? You could literally keep the same card, and lower one or 2 settings per year to keep the same, buttery smooth 60fps performance over a console’s entire lifespan. Provided you don’t buy a lower end P.O.S. graphics card. Middle range is plenty though, in the R3k region, once off.

          • Spathi

            March 14, 2014 at 12:17

            PC games just don’t get optimised for older hardware. The minimum requirements for Dark Souls 2 is a HD5870 (I suspect this may be a mistake though), and it is a PS3 game.

            GTA 4 was the same. It ran really bad on mid-range PCs when it was first released.

          • Sir Rants A Lot Llew. Jelly!!!

            March 14, 2014 at 12:15

            R1000 for a controller!?!?!? Yikes.

            Ok moving rrright along.

            That’s the thing, they do still optimise. 3 years down the road my R2300 GFX card is still running high graphics. in another 2 it may be medium, but the base quality capabilities are the same. I don’t HAVE to up my gfx card every 5 years. I only need that IF I want ultra all the time. In 5 years time ultra on PC will be far beyond what console is capable of (not dissing, just pointing out that PC naturally progresses faster due to its scalability) and while I won’t be able to run those new games at ultra I will be doing so at medium which will still look at least as good as the console.

            In the end it really all works out roughly the same actually. Both are pretty even in costs if you think about it

        • Milesh Bhana

          March 14, 2014 at 13:30

          i did the math on this, and i can’t say i agree with you. Also considering an upgrade, so same circumstance as you, except that i need a new PSU because my current one is a 480W and i think i need something more for the new setup.

          What CPU are you looking at for R2000? I chose top of the range i5 (not the K one, the one below that), that was closer to 3K.

          What GPU? I was deciding between the R9 and the 760GTX, both easily over R3K.

          RAM – 16GB – R1800-R2000

          I feel that the spec i was looking at puts me relatively close to PS4 territory in the long run. But definitely more than R6800.

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      • Sentient_Slug

        March 14, 2014 at 12:25

        Even if just the box, its still not possible. there is a link somewhere where this has been done, but i know not where to find it now.

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      • Mark Treloar

        March 14, 2014 at 13:34

        I can do that with windows for less.

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    • Pieter Kruger

      March 14, 2014 at 10:43

      “Even if it was possible, in a year or two the developers will only start extracting and properly using the power of the consoles, as per each generation.”. Good point. The developers are forced to work with what they have and to improve on it with consoles but with new hardware coming out monthly for PC’s they do not have to spend time on “older” hardware to get the most out of it, they simply cater for the latest hardware!

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      • Muzique

        March 14, 2014 at 13:06

        Thats the problem with game developers, instead of extracting whats possible now for PC they develop for best hardware. When the optimum “affordable” perfomance is obtained for a game its 5 years later! Not everyone wants to pay R10,000 for the best graphics card…thus the console appeal

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    • Sir Rants A Lot Llew. Jelly!!!

      March 14, 2014 at 11:03

      actually if you google that you will find youtube vids everywhere that shows you can get a pc that outperforms the PS4. Internet is full of these vids and articles

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      • Spathi

        March 14, 2014 at 11:09

        A PC, without a doubt. But I’m talking about a new R 6800 PC with software (windows)

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  2. Pieter Kruger

    March 14, 2014 at 10:38

    PC does offer more value for money. I have a decent PC but rarely game on it these days!???? Guess I got sick of having to download this and that extra for every game to run, whereas consoles are plug & play basically! Also to be honest, the move from mouse and keyboard was frustrating at first but now I really prefer my controller! The console exclusives were also a big factor but we’re seeing less and less of this with more “exclusives” also launching on PC! Core gamers with budget constraints should definitely go for PC though in my opinion!

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    • Mossel

      March 14, 2014 at 10:42

      I only really update my gpu driver. Other than that I can’t think of one thing I needed to download for a game to work. Unless it is some obscure old game that needs a patch.

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      • Hammersteyn

        March 14, 2014 at 10:43

        Or BF that goes through daily patches

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        • Mossel

          March 14, 2014 at 10:51

          That’s why I dont play EA filth!! xD

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        • General JJ the Fett

          March 14, 2014 at 11:01

          Yea. But then it still doesn’t work.

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      • Spathi

        March 14, 2014 at 10:47

        I had a funny problem with The Witcher 2. The frames “skipped”, like it was only rendering every 2nd frame. I have a 550ti (old card I know) so it wasn’t some obscure mobile card or something. Can’t exactly remember what I did to fix it (something to do with the pre-rendering of frames), but things like that can be irritating on PCs. This happened end of last year, so I had all the available patches and fixes installed.

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        • Mossel

          March 14, 2014 at 10:54

          Yeah things like that can happen. But I actually enjoy fiddling around and fixing it. Gives me a little sense of accomplishment.

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          • Spathi

            March 14, 2014 at 10:58

            I also kinda do, but only if I find a solution at the end of the day, and it didn’t take me more than a day 😀

        • FoxOneZA

          March 14, 2014 at 11:21

          Use D3DOverdrive to fix frame skip issues. I have the same card as you and it happily runs BF3 at high with 4xAA but only with D3DOverdriver. It does not overclock your card to achieve this.

          This YouTube video will explain how to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhhXqgOsFbM

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          • Spathi

            March 14, 2014 at 11:30

            I may have used this, not sure! I know I did some stuff to fix it though 😀 If I didn’t use it, I’ll do so in future so thanks for the tip!

    • Tarisma

      March 14, 2014 at 10:55

      Consoles are plug and play*

      T’s and C’s apply

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  3. Hammersteyn

    March 14, 2014 at 10:39

  4. Mossel

    March 14, 2014 at 10:40

    No. PC’s have always been more appealing.

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    • Hammersteyn

      March 14, 2014 at 10:45

      Not when PS1 and two PS2 was still in the market. There were way to many games exclusive to those consoles. Steam wasn’t even around back then if memory servers.

      Nut now that you can have your PC in the living room and use Steam big picture and Netflix. The new consoles are a bit meh, Especially as most of the overseas features aren’t available to us.

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      • Mossel

        March 14, 2014 at 10:48

        But back then you had to play on an old TV monitor. *shivers* The pixels looked like thumbs. I think that has always been my draw card, better graphics and customisability!

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  5. Hammersteyn

    March 14, 2014 at 10:40

    PS+ and exclusive games is the only saving grace for me when it comes to consoles. Something needs to be done about the pricing of console games vs. PC games as well.

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    • Alien Emperor Trevor

      March 14, 2014 at 11:00

      What’s wrong with the pricing?

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      • Hammersteyn

        March 14, 2014 at 11:00

        Second Son will be around R900

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        • Alien Emperor Trevor

          March 14, 2014 at 11:02

          Yeah, that’s crazy. I would never, ever pay that for a game even if I played on a console. That’s like half a month’s worth of petrol for me.

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          • Hammersteyn

            March 14, 2014 at 11:03

            I get preorder discount and I always trade in games. But now it’s getting out of hand.

          • Umar Praise The Golden Sun

            March 14, 2014 at 11:31

            Indeed bro, these prices are insane!! But this is making digital more appealing. Last of Us is still R600, there was a sale recently where it was under R300. And coupled with PS+ it’s a good service. But retail…My god

          • ToshZA

            March 14, 2014 at 11:35

            That’s 2 month’s petrol for me. Its stupid how expensive gaming is. And then people complain about things like golf or whatever, but right now that’s a cheaper hobby. Hell, building model Airplanes and such is cheaper.

          • HvR

            March 14, 2014 at 11:40

            2 month’s petrol?!?!? I work from home and my bill is almost R600 a month.
            What do you drive? a donkey?

          • ToshZA

            March 14, 2014 at 11:41

            Motorbike, Honda NC700. Really, fantastic when its not raining, and always easy on the wallet, no matter how much travelling you do.

        • derp

          March 14, 2014 at 11:23

          The trick is to wait for a couple of months until the price drops. Otherwise you could import, PS4 is region free (I think?).

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    • Milesh Bhana

      March 14, 2014 at 13:33

      PSN+ has been amazing for PS3, but for PS4, i’m still waiting for those AAA titles.

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      • Hammersteyn

        March 14, 2014 at 13:45

        It will come as soon as the PS4 builds up a library

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  6. Exalted Overlord Geoffrey Tim

    March 14, 2014 at 10:46

    and i ask this…but the games I’m most looking forward to are exclusives; Mario Kart 8 and Infamous Second son. that’s still the console’s biggest draw; great exclusive games that just aren;t on PC.

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    • Anon A Mouse

      March 14, 2014 at 10:48

      And no DRM (as yet).

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      • Hammersteyn

        March 14, 2014 at 10:48

        Very good point!

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    • SheHulkNigri

      March 14, 2014 at 10:49

      What I was about to say. I would love to move to PC for all the right reasons, but the PC’s lack of decent fighting games makes me hesitant.

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      • RinceIsIngwer

        March 14, 2014 at 10:51

        Yeah, and dammit if only PCs had more FPS then I would get one 0-O BWAHAHAH

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    • Hammersteyn

      March 14, 2014 at 10:50

      Including GTAV

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    • Spathi

      March 14, 2014 at 10:50

      Yep. If it wasn’t for Metal Gear Solid, Final Fantasy (when they were still good!) and Gran Turismo I would never even have considered getting a console in the first place. I’m happy I did though, otherwise I would never have played Red Dead Redemption and The Last of Us, being two of the most impressive and awesome games of my 25 year gaming career.

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    • Mossel

      March 14, 2014 at 10:51

      Agreed. I sersiously want to play TLOU, some random FF and The Order when it comes out. That is the only reason I’m keeping a close eye on PS3 specials.

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    • Tarisma

      March 14, 2014 at 10:53

      Unless you like MMO’s and RTS?

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  7. RinceIsIngwer

    March 14, 2014 at 10:49

    Lol. What were we just saying on the Dark Souls 2 thread? The force is strong with Geoff today…

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  8. Alien Emperor Trevor

    March 14, 2014 at 10:50

    I don’t think it’ll make someone who’s only ever used a console for gaming change to a PC. It might influence those who use both.

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    • SheHulkNigri

      March 14, 2014 at 10:58

      I dunno hey. For years, I was pro PC. Then I saw that more games were released on console, and I switched. If PC gets better games than console, I’d jump ship again. Same goes for Vice-Versa, Might be more people like me out there than you think.

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      • Umar Praise The Golden Sun

        March 14, 2014 at 11:05

        Have to agree with this. This is the main reason I left PC gaming…Eveyrthing I personally wanted was not released on PC

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      • Alien Emperor Trevor

        March 14, 2014 at 11:38

        That’s where I differ. There are so many games, a few console only games don’t matter to me. And seeing as I enjoy replaying old games, backwards compatibility is a big thing for me.

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    • General JJ the Fett

      March 14, 2014 at 11:02

      Agreed. Console gamers will be console gamers and pc gamers will be better. 😉

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      • Alien Emperor Trevor

        March 14, 2014 at 11:05

        lol… and here we go again 😛

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        • General JJ the Fett

          March 14, 2014 at 11:06

          I promise that’s the only bad thing I’ll say on this thread.
          Besides, I’m trying to decide now what to get from Burger King for lunch.

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      • Umar Praise The Golden Sun

        March 14, 2014 at 11:08

        Tsk Tsk John….lol…spread your seed of chaos my son!!!

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    • jac7

      March 14, 2014 at 11:04

      O bought my first ever gaming rig in December. Before that it was PS1, PS2, PS3 and kruisdoos 360. I believe I’ll stick with PC for at least 2 or 3 years and wait for the PS4 to build up a library of exclusives. As of now, the games are hella expansive. Walked into CNA and checked out the price tag on BF4 for PS4 and it didn’t even fit on the box. Pfff, I love consoles but dayam, that’s too expensive.

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      • Alien Emperor Trevor

        March 14, 2014 at 11:37

        Yeah, new games prices on consoles have gone crazy. If that was my platform I’d seriously consider finding another hobby.

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  9. Umar Praise The Golden Sun

    March 14, 2014 at 10:55

    Not for me. All the games I want and have always wanted were on consoles. I know this is a hardware point or view question. but still…I own a pretty decent laptop. I’ve played some games on there from time to time. But console is where the heart is. It’s not about power(for me) but the games…

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    • Mossel

      March 14, 2014 at 10:57

      No Civilisation? No StarCraft? No Diablo (when it was still exclusive)? I suppose all those can work on a modarate laptop.

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      • Umar Praise The Golden Sun

        March 14, 2014 at 11:00

        For me personally, no…I played the shit out of Daiblo 2 and was a steadfast Age of Empires 2 player. But my heart lies with consoles even though I grew up with pc and dos games. I remember the sleepless nights I had playing Quake 2 (SP) . But consoles, they’re the place I will always return to

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        • Mossel

          March 14, 2014 at 11:04

          There are two reasons Im considering buying a console:
          1 – Playing horizontally is quite fun
          2 – Exclusives
          Then there are numurous reasons against it:
          1 – I dont own a TV
          2 – I dont have R6000
          3 – I cant justify paying R300 for a game on special when I can get it on Steam for R50, not to mention new games.
          4 – FPS games will always be better with KB+M

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          • ToshZA

            March 14, 2014 at 11:12

            That horizontal thing is easily done on a PC nowadays with controllers and Steam’s Big Picture. I just need the controller and I’m set for exactly that.

            Exclusives are the only reason for me to ever buy another console. And right now there aren’t enough to justify that insane price tag.

      • Tarisma

        March 14, 2014 at 11:00

        No wildstar no wow no red alert no halflife no counterstrike no dota no warcraft 3

        Reply

  10. Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

    March 14, 2014 at 10:55

    Aah, a picture of my banana! Finally Lazygamer acknowledges my existence.

    Reply

    • RinceIsIngwer

      March 14, 2014 at 10:56

      But you are half naked! 0-O

      Reply

      • Alien Emperor Trevor

        March 14, 2014 at 10:58

        I know. brb – bathroom.

        Reply

        • RinceIsIngwer

          March 14, 2014 at 12:04

          0-O

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  11. Sageville

    March 14, 2014 at 10:56

    Still in awe of my PS4. Where possible I’ll keep buying the console versions even though I have a respectable PC. I almost feel safer playing on the console, less hackers / cheaters. Also, I know that in 5 years time the new games will still work on my console… can’t be sure of that on PC.

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    • Hammersteyn

      March 14, 2014 at 10:57

      Very,very true.

      Reply

  12. InsanityFlea

    March 14, 2014 at 10:57

    Console peasants. I’ll enjoy cheaper games :p

    Reply

    • Hammersteyn

      March 14, 2014 at 10:58

      We have sales from time to time.

      Reply

    • Umar Praise The Golden Sun

      March 14, 2014 at 11:01

      Cool enjoy Goat simulator while we play The Last of Us

      Reply

      • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

        March 14, 2014 at 11:03

        I keep on reading that as Goat STIMULATOR!!!

        Reply

        • Umar Praise The Golden Sun

          March 14, 2014 at 11:07

          ALWAYS….but I try not to think that 🙁

          Reply

      • Hammersteyn

        March 14, 2014 at 11:04

        LOL, Goat simulator actually has a little appeal if I recall the trailer.

        Reply

        • Admiral Chief of comments

          March 14, 2014 at 11:10

          Can’t wait to get mah goat on!!!!!!

          Reply

      • ToshZA

        March 14, 2014 at 11:10

        Star Citizen says hi.

        Reply

        • Umar Praise The Golden Sun

          March 14, 2014 at 11:11

          Wow Star Citizen I didn’t you can time travel from 2020? 😛

          Reply

          • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

            March 14, 2014 at 11:14

            It’s going to be very awkward if Star Citizen doesn’t deliver on it’s promises and the dev team disapears with all that money to some island in the Pacific.

          • Umar Praise The Golden Sun

            March 14, 2014 at 11:15

            In all seriousness though, I worry about that too. Don’t you think they are being a little too ambitious?

          • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

            March 14, 2014 at 11:21

            I think they’re being VERY ambitious. In a way it’s good, because they clearly want to create something mindblowing, but I always remember Peter Molyneux and Lionhead. They had the financial and technical backing of Microsoft, and regardless of what Peter wanted to do with Fable, it all boiled down to the team having bitten off more than they could chew.

            I’ll remain cautiously optimistic with Star Citizen. I hope they deliver, but to be honest, I’ve been following gaming for a decent amount of years, and I’m yet to see someone deliver on grandiose claims.

            That’s why I made fun of “teh Cloudz”, Kinect, the Ouya, and even lately the whole VR fad.

          • Umar Praise The Golden Sun

            March 14, 2014 at 11:23

            Yeah as much as I troll, I want it to succeed, they trying to create a masterpiece and I would love to see it realized. Good point on Peter.They had backing of major publishers. SC is a kickstarter game. I just hope it all works out

          • ToshZA

            March 14, 2014 at 11:26

            I’ll be honest as well, I use it to troll, but my hype and expectations for it are low. I’m a bit more pessimistic in that I do think it’ll fail. I think it’s now just too big for its boots, and all this hype is only going to damage it in the long run.

          • Umar Praise The Golden Sun

            March 14, 2014 at 11:29

            Yup. It’s like they can’t stop. This game is expected to be out next year. But I just have a feeling they’re going to keep adding more to it…..I don’t know hey. Just hope it works out. This game has SSSOOOOO much riding on it.

          • ToshZA

            March 14, 2014 at 11:34

            That’s exactly it. Where do they draw the line, where do they say “Ok, we’ve got enough now, lets get this done, right, and out to fans before they go grey and get alzheimers.”

          • Spathi

            March 14, 2014 at 11:32

            It better not suck! I have very high hopes!!!

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            March 14, 2014 at 12:01

            I’m actually fairly optimistic. Chris Roberts has a better track record of delivering on promises than Molymoly. I follow the development info & it’s looking good. Although yes, we’ll see when we play it.

          • Umar Praise The Golden Sun

            March 14, 2014 at 12:18

            I know, but anyone can fall victim to ambition. But I do have high hopes. I’m sure it will be awesome regardless

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            March 14, 2014 at 11:33

            Star Citizen travelled back in time from 2020 to let you know you don’t have to worry, The Last Guardian is still in development. 😀

          • Umar Praise The Golden Sun

            March 14, 2014 at 11:34

            *Slow Clap*…..nice burn Trev……Nice

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            March 14, 2014 at 11:43

            lol I thought you’d appreciate it.

        • Spathi

          March 14, 2014 at 11:12

          In 2015, maybe… 😛

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          • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

            March 14, 2014 at 11:14

            2016 most likely….

        • Mighty Meh

          March 14, 2014 at 11:44

          The Dogfighting Module will be out next month, so you will at least have something to play. I’d hurry tho, last time I checked there were about 5500 alpha slots left and I think the second that module comes out the rest will be scooped up.

          From what I’ve seen so far the gameplay is amazing, anything over and above the ship combat I’m considering a bonus.

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      • InsanityFlea

        March 14, 2014 at 11:20

        Enjoy your spongebob, while I play Star Citizen & BF4 at ultra 1440p

        Reply

        • Umar Praise The Golden Sun

          March 14, 2014 at 11:21

          Well Spongebob is really awesome….

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  13. Sir Rants A Lot Llew. Jelly!!!

    March 14, 2014 at 10:58

    To be honest, I’d rather fork out 6K to upgrade my existing PC which will then last as long as the consoles will.

    Now before anyone says “Oh but PC has to be upgraded to keep up” let me just point out that point is only valid when you want to always run PC games at high-ultra.

    My PC can run games at a specific quality right now at 60FPS. That means in 5 years time my PC can still do the same quality at 60FPS. Yes, that quality might “medium” on graphics settings by then, but the fact still stands I will have the same graphical quality for 5 years and more.

    By the time my PC can no longer play games at respectable frame rates because the quality has skyrocketed so much then the next-next gen consoles will also be coming out (Remember they are shortening the console expected life span to around 6-7 years if I recall?)

    My PC is already almost 3 years old. I have not upgraded a thing and it is still running games on high. I can no longer do ultra sure, but still high at 50-60FPS.

    Ultra settings are achieved very easily when I pop my resolution down to 720. Then my PC runs ultra settings, even in BF4, just fine.

    So yeah, in short, I’d rather spend 6k and upgrade my PC with a monster GFX card than get a console which, to date, has underperformed and under delivered.

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    • ToshZA

      March 14, 2014 at 11:10

      Amen to this.

      Reply

    • Admiral Chief of comments

      March 14, 2014 at 11:12

      wooooooot

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  14. Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

    March 14, 2014 at 10:58

    Do I pay a little extra for a console game (that was probably optimized for my console of choice) or do I take the price cut and pay for a ported game? Food for thought!

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    • ToshZA

      March 14, 2014 at 11:08

      Star Citizen is one big example, but there are literally hundreds of indies that are ported to consoles, but native to PC, and quite frankly Indies are what keep me gaming, not the poorly made, bug-ridden AAA titles of late.

      They’re also a fraction of the price of even a PC AAA title. I’m sorry, but your “port” argument is old and not really relevant any more. Some examples exist, but none from this generation, where this entire console thing has become a huge debate.

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      • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

        March 14, 2014 at 11:10

        My steam account is literally populated with only indie games.

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        • Brady miaau

          March 14, 2014 at 11:12

          mine is not. I do not get into them for the most part. Platforming and stuff like that is just not for me. So the Console AAA games (dragon age, MAss Effect) work out very well for me

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          • ToshZA

            March 14, 2014 at 11:15

            Dark Souls is an Indie. Torchlight is an indie. Indie does not mean platformer. And I hate to say it man, but there are loads of really amazing, unique and fun games out there in the indie scene. Reus is one recent example, I’ve had it for quite a while, but I introduced it to a friend. Such a simple concept, but damn it gets tough, and it keeps you coming back for another session.

            Look into the Indie scene a bit more, there will be games you’ll find interesting, and give them a go. You’ll be surprised.

          • Brady miaau

            March 14, 2014 at 11:16

            Oh, wait. I played Torchlight II, was diverting for a few hours. Very well put together.

            My time is also becoming more and more limited, so a game must really grab me. for me to play.

          • ToshZA

            March 14, 2014 at 11:23

            Well have a look around, you’ll definitely find something for you. Check reviews, check what your friends are playing. There’s a world of gaming out there that’s currently much more entertaining than AAA titles. A lot of these games can be played in small sessions too, FTL, Reus, Loadout – three examples that I personally play when I have an hour or less.

        • ToshZA

          March 14, 2014 at 11:16

          Then my question to you is this: 20 hours for an R800 game, or 20 hours for a R150 game, each made for the platform of choice?

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    • Brady miaau

      March 14, 2014 at 11:10

      I think the big point you make is “optimized for my hardware”

      Reply

  15. Tarisma

    March 14, 2014 at 10:59

    For me I find Consoles are more for couch co-op games with the girlfriend, ie we play together or she directs me to the hidden treasures (like in uncharted). If it wasn’t for her I probably would never touch my PS3 let along buy a PS4

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    • Spathi

      March 14, 2014 at 11:00

      Good point. I feel bad playing on my PC alone in the guest-/study/rubbish room. Playing on a console in the lounge/TV room is more social.

      Reply

      • Tarisma

        March 14, 2014 at 11:02

        Exactly, its the idea way for us to spend time together. I mean there really isn’t much on TV worth watching

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  16. General JJ the Fett

    March 14, 2014 at 11:00

    I see what you’re doing here Geoff. Very devious.

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    • Exalted Overlord Geoffrey Tim

      March 14, 2014 at 11:07

      not doing anything devious. It’s a genuine question. I have no hope of batman this week, anyway. 😉

      Reply

      • General JJ the Fett

        March 14, 2014 at 11:09

        Genuine questions have started many wars. 😉

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        • Exalted Overlord Geoffrey Tim

          March 14, 2014 at 11:10

          I’ve noticed a number of die-hard console mates just opting for Pc this generation, and I find it interesting.

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          • General JJ the Fett

            March 14, 2014 at 11:21

            Me too.
            As a die-hard pc gamer I’m not even sure how that makes me feel.
            I have no issues with people preferring consoles. Heck, I’m friends with Rince. And his blood is full of Xbox 360 cells.

      • ToshZA

        March 14, 2014 at 11:17

        @johnambitious:disqus and something that’s relevant and is quite a hot topic at the moment. Banana Boy was just complaining on the Dark Souls thread about this, so its a valid FFD if ever I saw one.

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        • Exalted Overlord Geoffrey Tim

          March 14, 2014 at 11:25

          And it was written before that article went live. I’m NostraDAMNus

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        • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

          March 14, 2014 at 11:26

          That’s Banana King! BANANA KING!!!

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          • General JJ the Fett

            March 14, 2014 at 11:27

            *queen

          • ToshZA

            March 14, 2014 at 11:27

            I’m sorry Banana Butt, what was that? O_o

        • General JJ the Fett

          March 14, 2014 at 11:26

          That’s what I meant. I was ranting with the Banana on the other thread.

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  17. General JJ the Fett

    March 14, 2014 at 11:01

    I come in peace!

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  18. Brady miaau

    March 14, 2014 at 11:02

    You make a good point Geoff.

    It seems that most everything that attracted me to the console in the first place is being eroded by the new consoles.

    I want to switch on and play. I want a dedicated device connected to my TV to use a dvd player and all that. I do not want a PC or a laptop in the TV room.

    Having said all that, I am thinking about (and this is new) getting a good PC, no screen and whatever, and leaving it in the TV room, plugged in and running. Remote controls and stuff can be sourced and sorted, no keyboard, no mouse (edit – maybe a wireless mouse?), use a controller and play games like that. Remote control for DVD’s.

    AND no more content format trouble for my media, any format, any time cause the PC has the codecs I need.

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    • General JJ the Fett

      March 14, 2014 at 11:06

      I had that for a long time before I moved to a place big enough to afford my pc its own space. And it was pretty damn nice. Now what’s happened is that my tv never gets used anymore, since both myself and my girlfriend game on pc’s.

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      • Brady miaau

        March 14, 2014 at 11:08

        I have a study, with a PC and loads of bookshelves and stuff. That must remain as a work area, for sure.

        But to have a PC in the TV room……. not what I want BUT I might just do it.

        Lucky we have a separate lounge and stuff for guests, so I suppose what goes in the TV room is our business.

        I game alone, when wife and baby are sleeping. Never, ever during the day, when wife is lurking. So it is my comfort for gaming I need to look out for AND the wife and I watching our TV series and movies.

        Hmm, DSTV video stream for the stuff we miss, sort of like a PVR, can be played on PC direct to big screen. Another thought

        p.s. The Blacklist is kinda fun

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        • General JJ the Fett

          March 14, 2014 at 11:09

          Ah. Sounds like you have it figured out then.

          You’re the third person this week to tell me that I should watch Blacklist. Maybe I should.

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          • Brady miaau

            March 14, 2014 at 11:11

            I do not have it figured out. 🙂 These thoughts just came to me right now.

            Also, my wife stopped working so we have gone from people that would eat out sometimes 10 times a week, to almost nothing, perhaps a Wimpy stop.

            No, need a serious increase again, before I can buy a new PC or Console or anything.

            and yes, you should watch it. Well, it appeals to me.

          • General JJ the Fett

            March 14, 2014 at 11:15

            We’re in the same boat there man. May the force be with us.

          • Brady miaau

            March 14, 2014 at 11:17

            indeed. You got a child as well? or GF not working?

            Sorry, obvious. Need a serious increase! We all do.

            I am hoping my skill and abilities render the need for the Force.

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            March 14, 2014 at 11:28

            No.4 Watch The Blacklist 😛

          • General JJ the Fett

            March 14, 2014 at 11:29

            Doing it!

        • Alien Emperor Trevor

          March 14, 2014 at 11:10

          Red is a crazy mofo yo!

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          • Brady miaau

            March 14, 2014 at 11:13

            beyond crazy.

            What is his Agenda? up to something……

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            March 14, 2014 at 11:18

            I think it all revolves around his family’s murder.

          • Brady miaau

            March 14, 2014 at 11:19

            yip, I think so too. But how, what where, who all that stuff is interesting.

            Not like, say, Beauty and the Beast, where they have a big mystery in the 1st eposide, but I was bored by the 3rd. Not very intrigued in the first episode either

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            March 14, 2014 at 11:20

            I didn’t even bother with that series lol. It just looked so terrible from the get go.

      • Mossel

        March 14, 2014 at 11:16

        You have a gamer girlfriend, you play guitar and listen to good music? You’re ok JJ. You’re ok.

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        • General JJ the Fett

          March 14, 2014 at 11:18

          Haha. Thanks man. Your Avatar alone gets you some serious respect.

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  19. Kromas

    March 14, 2014 at 11:08

    PC.
    1. Customizable
    2. Decent gear can be had for cheap as tech evolves.
    3. Games are cheap
    4. HD without controversy
    5. Controller can be plugged in
    6. KB/M combo usually better
    7. Unless a crappy EA port (Dead Space 3) , PC version usually better than Console version
    8. Mods
    9. Indie games more readily available
    10. Steam
    11. No subs needed for system to work as intended.

    Console
    1. Cheaper hardware … sort of
    2. You can sit on a couch (not really out of the realm of a pc but yeah)

    Oh what … that’s all?

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    • Admiral Chief of comments

      March 14, 2014 at 11:10

      Amen

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      • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

        March 14, 2014 at 11:12

        PC
        1. DRM (can’t share my games with my friends)

        Console
        2, Can share my disks with my friends

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        • Umar Praise The Golden Sun

          March 14, 2014 at 11:13

          I shared my games I bought on PSN with a friend too

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        • Kromas

          March 14, 2014 at 11:14

          Steam family sharing coming soon. DRM on XBone disabled but wait a year or so.

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          • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

            March 14, 2014 at 11:15

            Yeah, keywords “coming soon….”

          • Kromas

            March 14, 2014 at 11:15

            I am running the Beta and as we speak a friend is playing Deadpool that I own.

          • Sk3tz0

            March 14, 2014 at 11:15

            Judging consoles based on the Crap that is the Xbone.. is like judging a burger based on the Crap mcDonalds sell..

          • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

            March 14, 2014 at 11:17

            I don’t think anyone sees the boner as a console. I think of it more as a watercooler that can play TV, TV, TV, Sports, Call of duty… (it never gets old)

          • ToshZA

            March 14, 2014 at 11:21

            Family sharing is live if I’m not mistaken. I saw an article somewhere, probably here or might be news on launching Steam. Check it out.

          • Kromas

            March 14, 2014 at 11:22

            Could very well be but you need a rather decent VaC rating to even apply for it.

    • Spathi

      March 14, 2014 at 11:12

      3. EXCLUSIVES!!! – the biggest draw of them all for consoles.

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      • Kromas

        March 14, 2014 at 11:12

        4 games at most per cycle and most of them are horrible. TLOU is an exception.

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      • General JJ the Fett

        March 14, 2014 at 11:14

        I must agree. The console exclusives are pretty alluring. But then I jump back into my car in Skyrim and drive off between the spiderwoman peasants and lollipop wielding bandits and the world makes sense again.

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        • Alien Emperor Trevor

          March 14, 2014 at 11:17

          It doesn’t make a difference to me. My life is not changed by playing or not playing some platform exclusive game. I’ll play something else, and my enjoyment levels will most likely be identical to someone playing their exclusive. Sure, there are games I’d have liked to play, but so what, I played something else.

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          • Kromas

            March 14, 2014 at 11:19

            Indeed. What they forget is that when all is said and done they most likely can’t replay their exclusives cause of backwards compatibility whereas I just load KoToR and it still works (with minor tweaking)

        • Sk3tz0

          March 14, 2014 at 11:18

          If the developers wanted u to have a car in skyrim they’d have included in the game.. Modding on PC is as much as a valid argument as Sex for Abstinence is.

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          • Kromas

            March 14, 2014 at 11:20

            Ahem …. if they did not want it then they would not have added the “Add mod” button. Your argument is invalid.

          • General JJ the Fett

            March 14, 2014 at 11:22

            I’m just making a joke. Though it doesn’t seem like anyone picked that up. I’d never do that to a game. But there are some really nice armour, terrain, graphics and other mods for Skyrim.

  20. Mossel

    March 14, 2014 at 11:08

    LOL this is like the worst debate ever. Only 28 comments. Or everyone is actually working. O_O

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    • Exalted Overlord Geoffrey Tim

      March 14, 2014 at 11:09

      I think you need to hit refresh, mate. 🙂

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      • Mossel

        March 14, 2014 at 11:10

        hahaha! Just did! That’s my bad! I wanted to delete my comment before anyone saw!

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        • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

          March 14, 2014 at 11:16

          Oh dear.. 😛

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    • Spathi

      March 14, 2014 at 11:10

      No matter what the time of day or the place, a PC vs Console debate will always get at least 300 comments 😀

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    • Alien Emperor Trevor

      March 14, 2014 at 11:10

      It takes a while to type – that’s why consoles need keyboards. *runnnnnnnnnn*

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      • General JJ the Fett

        March 14, 2014 at 11:11

        I think I can hear their skin sizzle from that comment.

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      • Mossel

        March 14, 2014 at 11:12

        Or every just knows that PCs are more appealing. Not much more to say! *runs!*

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  21. TiMsTeR1033

    March 14, 2014 at 11:10

    Only thing making me lean back towards pc is the price of next gen games..

    Reply

    • General JJ the Fett

      March 14, 2014 at 11:11

      We will welcome you with open arms.

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      • TiMsTeR1033

        March 14, 2014 at 11:12

        As you should!

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      • Alien Emperor Trevor

        March 14, 2014 at 11:25

        Who’s “we”?

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        • General JJ the Fett

          March 14, 2014 at 11:26

          Are you going to tell him, or should I?

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  22. Sk3tz0

    March 14, 2014 at 11:10

    As some1 that owns Both a PC and a Console. (Ps3) What i like most about the console.. when i finish a game or get bored of it I go down to my Local Game Swop and swop wat ever game i dont want for wat ever is on the back log of my list of games to be played.. unfortunately with a PC, and steam, and all that stuff.. u cant do that..

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  23. Unavengedavo(aka. Bilbo)

    March 14, 2014 at 11:12

    Well we know who fired the 1st shot O_o

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  24. Umar Praise The Golden Sun

    March 14, 2014 at 11:13

    People trying to defend PCs….we all know it’s a dying platform

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    • General JJ the Fett

      March 14, 2014 at 11:15

      Then they’re really wasting their money on Star Citizen 😉

      Reply

      • Umar Praise The Golden Sun

        March 14, 2014 at 11:18

        hehe…That’s mostly console gamers throwing money at them cause we feel bad that you guys hardly have anything to look forward to

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        • General JJ the Fett

          March 14, 2014 at 11:23

          Sounds believable.

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    • Johan du Preez

      March 14, 2014 at 11:16

      ROFL whahahaha got anything to back that up ?

      Reply

      • Umar Praise The Golden Sun

        March 14, 2014 at 11:17

        Just look at Steam, the worst service in the history of the world

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        • Johan du Preez

          March 14, 2014 at 11:18

          Judging by that comment I am 100% sure you have no clue moving along ….

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          • Umar Praise The Golden Sun

            March 14, 2014 at 11:21

            Just kidding hey….so , don’t take it too seriously

          • Spathi

            March 14, 2014 at 11:27

            Johan is VERY serious about PC gaming and John Carmack. Never make jokes about either one!

          • General JJ the Fett

            March 14, 2014 at 11:28

            Quite a few very serious players here today, I see.

          • Umar Praise The Golden Sun

            March 14, 2014 at 11:29

            Didn’t John Carmack make Call of Duty Black ops 2?

          • ToshZA

            March 14, 2014 at 11:30

            LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • Spathi

            March 14, 2014 at 11:30

            You’re playing with your life!

          • Umar Praise The Golden Sun

            March 14, 2014 at 11:32

            Hehe just kidding man, I know he’s the mastermind behind Sims

          • General JJ the Fett

            March 14, 2014 at 11:33

            So he’s the guy responsible for turning me into the kind of guy who left a baby outside because I had twins and only wanted one?

          • ToshZA

            March 14, 2014 at 11:37

            No that’s the Chinese, John Carmack is American. He’s the guy that says its ok to sleep with your sister.

          • General JJ the Fett

            March 14, 2014 at 11:38

            LOL
            Equally bad.

          • ToshZA

            March 14, 2014 at 11:40

            Idk, condoms prevent babies, so sister isn’t quite AS bad. Especially if she’s hot.

          • General JJ the Fett

            March 14, 2014 at 11:41

            Well, that escalated quickly.

          • ToshZA

            March 14, 2014 at 11:42

            If John Carmack says its ok, it must me ok.

          • Johan du Preez

            March 14, 2014 at 11:50

            No he made Aliens:Colonial Marines 🙂

          • Spathi

            March 14, 2014 at 11:56

            I think you’re going too far now…A joke is a joke, but please!!

          • Johan du Preez

            March 14, 2014 at 11:56

            lol 🙂

          • Johan du Preez

            March 14, 2014 at 12:10

            Nice Avatar 🙂

          • Johan du Preez

            March 14, 2014 at 11:56

            Yeh sorry there’s allot of idiots on line its hard to tell sometimes if you are special or just joking.

          • Umar Praise The Golden Sun

            March 14, 2014 at 12:04

            lol Yeah sorry, need to give indications I’m joking

          • Mossel

            March 14, 2014 at 11:50

            Do you even realise he’s trolling?

        • ToshZA

          March 14, 2014 at 11:19

          • Umar Praise The Golden Sun

            March 14, 2014 at 11:20

            Lolz, i’m done now. Don’t want to sully my name

  25. Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

    March 14, 2014 at 11:15

    Seriously guys, PCs are only good for spreadsheets, checking email and watching porn!

    Reply

    • Anon A Mouse

      March 14, 2014 at 11:16

      You have your order wrong..

      Reply

      • Exalted Overlord Geoffrey Tim

        March 14, 2014 at 11:23

        Porn. Porn. Porn. Porn. Porn. Porn. Porn. Porn. Porn. Porn. Porn. Porn.

        Reply

        • ToshZA

          March 14, 2014 at 11:31

          Wait, did Darryn just hack your account Geoff?

          Reply

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            March 14, 2014 at 11:52

            He said porn, not pokemon. Although to Darryn…

          • General JJ the Fett

            March 14, 2014 at 11:52

            In Japan it’s the same thing

          • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

            March 14, 2014 at 11:54

            He said porn, not Batman’s thong! :’D

        • Umar Praise The Golden Sun

          March 14, 2014 at 11:33

          I wonder if anyone here actually has a sub for a porn service

          Reply

    • ToshZA

      March 14, 2014 at 11:18

      You really should try differentiate between a Mac and a PC man.

      Reply

    • Umar Praise The Golden Sun

      March 14, 2014 at 11:18

      I watch that on consoles too. So I guess PCs are only good for Excel

      Reply

      • Sk3tz0

        March 14, 2014 at 11:24

        My Note 3 has excel.. dont need a pc 😛

        Reply

        • Umar Praise The Golden Sun

          March 14, 2014 at 11:24

          Oh snap. PCs are obsolete!

          Reply

      • Alien Emperor Trevor

        March 14, 2014 at 11:24

        and POWERPOINT. Better FPS than Titanfall! 😀

        Reply

        • Umar Praise The Golden Sun

          March 14, 2014 at 11:25

          LOL I have powerpoint on console too. Just look at Dark Souls on 360 😉 lol

          Reply

    • Hammersteyn

      March 14, 2014 at 12:45

      I do love porn though….

      Reply

  26. Unavengedavo(aka. Bilbo)

    March 14, 2014 at 11:20

    Again, this musical explains it all 😀

    Reply

  27. derp

    March 14, 2014 at 11:21

    Sure you can build a PC that has more raw processing power than a PS4 for R6800 (just). However consoles have one thing going for them- optimisation. If the developers know what they are doing, they can squeeze much more out of a console than a PC. That is why you can play a game with incredible graphics such as The Last of Us on a computer with 256mb of memory, and an outdated card.
    AMD’s mantle is supposed to fix this, but again, it is down to the developers.

    Reply

  28. General JJ the Fett

    March 14, 2014 at 11:25

    The fact that no one has even mentioned the Steam Machine is probably proof that it’s not a great idea. Though maybe the price of the new consoles and their games will change that.
    Doubt it though.

    Reply

    • Mighty Meh

      March 14, 2014 at 12:16

      Too expensive I rate. Some young entrepreneur can just build and sell similar pc’s and load steam OS for a lot less.

      Reply

  29. Devourer of Small Bunnies

    March 14, 2014 at 11:34

    For a price point perhaps. But holistically? i dont think so. Most folk are still petrified of PC’s. Cant blame them, there are endless combinations of issues and knowledge required to maintain one. Having all the extra options and settings is quite daunting for many. I dont think PC’s will ever beat consoles in the usability field ever. Sure, theres ultimately more bang for your buck with a pc, but consoles also have longeveity on their side. Not talking about upgrading hardware etc, Im talking about the physical unit. How many people still have their PS1’s and PS2’s. Probably quite a lot of you. Now that being said, offer the same premise to PC users. I’d be pretty shocked to find out if more than 30% of participants would still keep old hardware.

    Fundamentally the whole comparison between PC vs Console is unfounded. Theyre not the same beast. Sooner people swallow that pill the better off we’ll all be.

    Reply

    • General JJ the Fett

      March 14, 2014 at 11:36

      You make a very good point. A lot of people don’t want pc’s because they’re don’t know much about software of hardware.
      I don’t mean that to sound like I’m dissing them, but that’s very true.

      Reply

  30. Sk3tz0

    March 14, 2014 at 11:44

    Lol Best and only arguement needed for the console.. PLAYSTATION PLUS.. !!!!

    Reply

    • Hammersteyn

      March 14, 2014 at 12:44

      The subscription now costs less than a single game

      Reply

  31. Tauriq Moosa

    March 14, 2014 at 11:47

    I think you forgot the most important point: Games.

    How true is this statement: A game made totally and solely for a particular console tends to be better in every way than one that’s multi.

    The case you could make is the following: The developers know what they’re working with, don’t need to adjust or make concessions for different or variable platforms and dont have uniformity of software and hardware. All of that fat is cut off so they can optimise for a particular and single console (think Infamous).

    Reply

    • ToshZA

      March 14, 2014 at 11:50

      What I see here is valid, but I’ve played Skyrim (just an example, not saying its the best thing since sliced bread) on both PC and Console, and the PC version is vastly superior in every way, thanks to something called Mods. Mods happen on many, many games, but are PC exclusive. There are arguments for and against in many respects, but for me the biggest thing is price. Who the hell can afford nearly a grand for ONE game?

      Reply

    • Sk3tz0

      March 14, 2014 at 11:50

      I think Games made solely for a particular console can be better.. I’ll never buy a RTS for a Console.. as much as i’d never play a Fighting Game on a PC. unnatural,.

      Just to be a nasty person.. How many of u PC fanboys enjoyed playing GTA 5 on ur PC 😛

      Reply

      • Alien Emperor Trevor

        March 14, 2014 at 11:51

        How are you enjoying Turbo Tax on your console!

        Reply

        • General JJ the Fett

          March 14, 2014 at 11:52

          Hahaha

          Reply

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            March 14, 2014 at 11:55

            I don’t know why, but the whole PCs are for taxes thing really cracks me up. It’s a very bad habit seeing as I only have a PC.

          • General JJ the Fett

            March 14, 2014 at 11:59

            Luckily you can do your taxes, watch an episode of your favourite series and play a game at the same time.

          • ToshZA

            March 14, 2014 at 12:08

            I actually have a friend who does almost exactly this, except its not taxes, its coding.

          • General JJ the Fett

            March 14, 2014 at 12:12

            I like to watch series while I’m working on Maya. Just takes me a lot longer to finish something though.

          • ToshZA

            March 14, 2014 at 12:13

            I don’t do it because of that reason. I prefer to let the music blare, and focus on what I’m doing.

          • General JJ the Fett

            March 14, 2014 at 12:13

            Much better idea.

          • SheHulkNigri

            March 14, 2014 at 14:04

            I think you drink way too much coffee, or rather do way too many drugs if you can do taxes, watch an episode and play a game at the same time.

      • ToshZA

        March 14, 2014 at 11:51

        Since I don’t enjoy GTA at all, it matters nothing to me. I’ll never buy it, even when (yes, WHEN) it comes out on PC.

        Reply

      • General JJ the Fett

        March 14, 2014 at 11:52

        I’m loving Planetary Annihilation. And you?

        Reply

      • Mossel

        March 14, 2014 at 11:57

        Oh, let me just create a spreadhseet on my pc to do the math!
        EDIT: Shortest spreadsheet ever.

        Reply

        • Sk3tz0

          March 14, 2014 at 11:58

          dont need to I did it on my mobile phone 😛

          Reply

          • Mossel

            March 14, 2014 at 11:59

            Honostly though, have you ever tried creating/editing a spreadsheet on a phone? Even on a tablet is horrible!

          • Sk3tz0

            March 14, 2014 at 11:59

            Not if u have a Note 3 its fucking awesome

          • Mossel

            March 14, 2014 at 12:01

            It might be cool for the first 10 rows and columns. But I’d like to see how awesome it is after that. 😀

          • General JJ the Fett

            March 14, 2014 at 12:02

            Yea. I work with over 6000 rows and 100 columns at a time. Won’t work for me at all.

          • Mossel

            March 14, 2014 at 12:05

            A guy in my class found the last column and row in excel. MANUALY!
            After seeing that, nothing really impresses me anymore.

          • General JJ the Fett

            March 14, 2014 at 12:06

            Hahahaha

          • CAE9872

            March 14, 2014 at 13:02

            WTF?

  32. Caden

    March 14, 2014 at 12:03

    Stay away nasty consoles. Assisted aiming and having to charge my wireless controller will keep me away (Yes I have a wire on my mouse and keyboard for pretty much the same reason) I have just spent R5300 to upgrade my existing rig and next month I will drop a bit more to come out to close to the R6800 mark. Thats a cpu, mobo, ram and then the gpu next month.

    Reply

  33. Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

    March 14, 2014 at 12:03

    The fact that Candy Crush exists on the PC platform via Facebook …. shows that as a viable core gaming option, it’s as redundant as the Wii. (Discuss with pistols)

    Reply

    • General JJ the Fett

      March 14, 2014 at 12:05

      Wow dude. You might just start another world war saying stuff like this.

      And no. Will not discuss for the sake of my and my family’s safety.

      Reply

      • RinceIsIngwer

        March 14, 2014 at 12:11

        He’s already behind you? *RUNS

        Reply

        • General JJ the Fett

          March 14, 2014 at 12:13

          Damn you!
          (yes, I did look behind me)

          Reply

          • RinceIsIngwer

            March 14, 2014 at 12:29

            And… NOW? 0-O

    • ToshZA

      March 14, 2014 at 12:10

      They ported Angry Birds to console and charged 4 times the price for the same game. Viable?

      Reply

      • Sk3tz0

        March 14, 2014 at 12:11

        if u purchased angry birds for console… well then u ride the short bus to school..

        Reply

        • ToshZA

          March 14, 2014 at 12:12

          My point, exactly.

          Reply

  34. Rags

    March 14, 2014 at 12:07

    In related news, CryEngine is moving over to SteamOs with OpenGL support.

    Reply

    • General JJ the Fett

      March 14, 2014 at 12:13

      🙂

      Reply

  35. Craig "Crios" Boonzaier

    March 14, 2014 at 12:17

    cough cough…… Master Race.

    Reply

    • Hammersteyn

      March 14, 2014 at 12:43

      sounds sickly,is it maybe a virus you picked up 😛

      Reply

      • Sk3tz0

        March 14, 2014 at 12:58

        Master race full of viruses 😛 and Worms.. might be “Master but sure aint healthy 😛

        Reply

        • boondocksaint87

          March 14, 2014 at 14:02

          It happens when you poke around without protection…

          Reply

  36. Mighty Meh

    March 14, 2014 at 12:19

    I miss the days when you couldn’t compare consoles to pc’s because they had completely different architecture. These days they are all essentially different brands of steamboxes.

    Reply

  37. Scratch17

    March 14, 2014 at 12:23

    Honestly, I’ve always been a PC gamer for most of my life. All of the games I’ve been able to play on the XBox 360 I got a while back are just console exclusives and random indie games that seemed worthwhile. Everything else went to my PC, because I could get it cheaper there. Couple that with Steam sales, Humble Bundles, all the indie love and the 360 controller adapter for PC, I don’t see a reason for me to get another console. For me, at least. I can understand the allure of a console to someone who’s not as… devout to PC gaming as I am. But yeah. Choose as you feel fits you. I’m just glad most of the games I want to play drop on PC as well as other platforms.

    Reply

  38. Sentient_Slug

    March 14, 2014 at 12:24

    Arguments that i do not partake in:
    1. which is better iPhone or Galaxy
    2. console vs PC
    3. Xbone vs PsWhore
    and more recently:
    4. Natural birth vs C-section

    Reply

    • Sk3tz0

      March 14, 2014 at 12:25

      U forgot Vegmite and Marmite..

      Reply

      • Sentient_Slug

        March 14, 2014 at 12:27

        hmmmmm evolved from the historical marmite vs bovril? yes ofcourse.

        Reply

        • Sk3tz0

          March 14, 2014 at 12:27

          Bovriol is the Wii U of sandwich spreads 😛

          Reply

          • Sentient_Slug

            March 14, 2014 at 12:29

            Haha that is strangely relateable

    • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

      March 14, 2014 at 12:43

      You forgot Batman or Wolverine!

      Reply

      • Sk3tz0

        March 14, 2014 at 12:48

        Superman vs Goku….

        Reply

    • Brenz

      March 14, 2014 at 13:04

      obviously Galaxy, i mean cmon…

      Reply

      • Sk3tz0

        March 14, 2014 at 13:05

        and C section 😛

        Reply

  39. Sk3tz0

    March 14, 2014 at 12:46

    Hehe..

    Reply

    • Exalted Overlord Geoffrey Tim

      March 14, 2014 at 12:52

      Annoying PS fans

      Can’t shut up about PS Plus and Sony’s exclusives or PS4 sales figures.

      “WHAT GAMES FROM 2006 DID XBOX GAMES FOR GOLD GIVE YOU THIS MONTH LOL”

      -Complete assholes because of BS that doesn’t matter.

      Reply

      • Sk3tz0

        March 14, 2014 at 12:56

        lol.. wasnt a ps section sorry but well spotted 😛

        Reply

      • Brenz

        March 14, 2014 at 13:05

        Oh but it does matter

        Reply

  40. Kromas

    March 14, 2014 at 12:51

    When all is said and done it comes down to personal preference and I for one don’t give a damn what you play as long as you enjoy your time gaming … oh crap … did I just say that out loud?

    Ahem … PC MASTER RACE! 07

    Reply

  41. boondocksaint87

    March 14, 2014 at 13:58

    We all know pcs are better, no reason to debate it 😛

    Anyhow, that banana reminds me http://www.officialsteakandblowjobday.com/ HAVE A GOOD ONE!

    Reply

  42. Johan de Wit

    March 14, 2014 at 14:30

    Building a PC with legit software etc will cost over R10k to match the PS4, and buying used parts or that epic special they had does not count. infact, its probably R13k+ to build a decent gaming pc.

    Reply

  43. crack2483

    March 14, 2014 at 18:43

    If you assume the pc is completely new then you must assume you’ll need to buy a big flat screen tv!

    Reply

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