Man, I hope you guys are getting a decent bonus this year. Hot off the news that the Playstation 4 will be arriving on December 6, comes word from ITF Gaming that the console has a current RRP of R6299. That’s plenty of moolah. Fortunately, you only need one kidney to live.
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ElimiNathan
August 21, 2013 at 10:14
Lol. Luckily I’ve budgeted for it
Martin du preez
August 21, 2013 at 10:26
Yup,started saving since the reveal in Feb. Got about 70% of that total saved already.
Pieter Kruger
August 21, 2013 at 10:35
My Xbox One will also be budgeted…on my Amex!
Melasco
August 21, 2013 at 10:41
Same. I put R8k and 10k ebucks aside for PS4 and games…. Epic December incomming… That said, I am a bit dissapointed with the local price….2 -3 years ago I would not have been able to buy this cash, and many people wont be. 🙁
Hesperus Phosphorus
August 21, 2013 at 10:49
Oef. Between a wedding, honeymoon and trip to Australia this is gonna have to wait. I’ll be happy with Rome II and GTAV for about two years, though. Chances are likely then that newer, less broken console models will be out by then.
Marc O Polo
August 21, 2013 at 21:02
thats one of the main reasons i would rather wait, just incase there are RROD type issues with either console
Sargon
August 22, 2013 at 14:59
The first Total War: Rome kept me busy gaming for three years. If this can do the same (and it looks fucking amazing already just from screenshots) I’ll be able to avoid Steam Summer Sales for years. Then I’ll just buy the next-next-gen thingy mabobob.
Pieter Kruger
August 21, 2013 at 10:15
FOOOOOOOK ME! That will probably mean Xbox One will be in the R7500 region??!!
ALKi1234
August 21, 2013 at 10:42
The interesting thing is most of my xbots buddies got the xbox360 coz it was cheaper than the ps3. Wonder if they are going to jump ship this time round?
TiMsTeR1033
August 21, 2013 at 10:54
I am but not for the price only, ps3 had so many exclusives and I dont wanna miss out on the ps4 ones…
Dakan45
August 23, 2013 at 01:49
To be fair ps3 has many exlusives becasue they needed them to sell ps3s, people saw no reason to buy expensive ps3s when they could play on a cheaper xbox, i expect ms to throw alot of exlusives on xbox one in order to sell it.
Brian Murphy
August 23, 2013 at 05:12
Pretty sure PS3 had as many exclusives as it did, because Sony has so many in-house dev studios.
Dakan45
August 23, 2013 at 06:05
Right thats why they brought haze along for the ride and then took quantic dream and sucker punch wasnt exactly owned by them, nor is insomniac that now are multiplatform.
Brian Murphy
August 23, 2013 at 15:58
You realize you actually made no point there, right? Haze was made by Free Radical Design, not a first party developer. Sucker Punch is owned by Sony, and Insomniac was a 2nd party developer.
And…still, you made no point. If the only desire was to inflate the exclusive content on the PS3, then Sony probably wouldn’t have also been simultaneously developing for the PS2, PSP, and some PC games.
Dakan45
August 23, 2013 at 17:04
actually i made a a perfect point, haze was multiplat they paid them off to make it exlusive, same with quantic dream and insomniac is not owned by sony, sucker punch was not owned by sony either. Now it is.
You said “because Sony has so many in-house dev studios.”
Only they dont. They made deals with many studios to get exlusives. Sony only had naughty dog and santa monica, the rest were not owned.
“If the only desire was to inflate the exclusive content on the PS3, then
Sony probably wouldn’t have also been simultaneously developing for the
PS2, PSP, and some PC games.”
Why you say that? psp is their console they threw some crap to feed it. The development budget is nowhere near the same as ps3 its not like they could just release those games on ps3 on BLU RAY disks. Back then atari didnt want to make ps3 games because of how expensive blu ray was.
ps2 was only kept alive due to low sales on ps3 and what about pc? Planetside was mad by mmo that was acquired by sony, consoles cant do mmos, now however they port them to ps4.
Brian Murphy
August 23, 2013 at 17:29
Haze was never multi-platform, it was always a PS3 exclusive. Never said Quantic (2nd party) or Insomniac (3rd party) were owned by Sony. You’re right though, Sucker Punch wasn’t originally a 1st party dev in the start of the PS3 era, they actually started in 1997 as a Microsoft company, and then left and have simply worked very closely with Sony for ages, until finally being acquired in 2011.
Regardless, you still haven’t made a point. You suggest Sony threw a ton of money at these developers, and counting you, that equals one person who’s ever said this. Sony spent the entirety of the last gen not buying exclusivity, and then forcing developers to bring additional polish and content to any timed exclusives the 360 got.
You assert that Sony had to inflate the exclusives on the PS3 in order to make it attractive at it’s price point, and then balk when I point out the PS2, PSP and PC games they developed at the same time, not to mention that they were also simultaneously designing and developing for the Vita (rumors of the PSP’s successor went as far back as 2009, which suggest the Vita was in development before then).
If a company is so terribly concerned about the success of their current expensive platform, they don’t stretch themselves over 3 platforms, and another upcoming platform, to achieve success on that expensive platform They also wouldn’t remove backwards compatibility, which gives access to thousands of other titles and increases the desirability of the machine.
Dakan45
August 23, 2013 at 19:20
I was there when people complained they cancelled the other versions in the last minute.
“Haze is a first-person shooter video game developed by Free Radical Design and published by Ubisoft for the PlayStation 3.[4] It was released worldwide in May 2008. Releases for Xbox 360 and Microsoft Windows were canceled.””
I Believe i made a perfect point, why dont you want to accept it? Somy did not have many inhouse studios, they just bought exlusives
” You suggest Sony threw a ton of money at these developers, and counting you, that equals one person who’s ever said this.”
Many have, suprises me you never heard of it, MS is doing it too now. Thats the point of consoles to buy them to play exlusive games, it has been like that since the 80s.
“Sony spent the entirety of the last gen not buying exclusivity, and then
forcing developers to bring additional polish and content to any timed
exclusives the 360 got.”
Wait what? When did that happen? Sonny didnt force anyone. Hell MS paid rockstar 50 million for timed exlusivity on gta iv dlcs, why you think sony isnt paying the devlopers crapazillions to make those games exlusive? Ofcourse naughty dog and santa monica are theirs and there is the case of quantic dream looking for investors because their movie-game idea is not easilly appealing to publishers.
Yes i am saying sony made exlusives so people will buy ps3s. PsP games are cheap as hell we talking about playsation budget, you cant possibly compare them. Or you think that a syphon filter game could have been made for ps3? Ofcourse not. Those crash games were cheap as well. The gta games were made by some small rockstar studios, etc etc.
What “pc games” you talking about?
“If a company is so terribly concerned about the success of their current expensive platform,”
They gone around saying that people will be happy to pay more for ps3, they hunted down every site with ps3 hacks and yet the sales were lower than x360 titles, they also had terrible service at times.
The only reason ps2 was supported was because many used it since the ps3 was too expensive. Ms however ditched xbox quite fast.
“They also wouldn’t remove backwards compatibility”
Yes why did they remove backwards compability? Maybe because enough people bought ps3s so there ws no need to support ps2 titles anymore.
So yeah sony pretty much does what it does to increase their ps3 sales, nothing more.
Brian Murphy
August 23, 2013 at 22:04
Sony had way more in-house and 2nd party devs, than Microsoft did at the time. That’s the point I’m making. And while Haze was originally slated as multi-platform, it represents one of the very few titles that Sony actually got exclusivity over. Now, whether that’s because they paid for it, or, that Microsoft simply wasn’t interested, remains to be seen, since there’s no actual information available to the public that indicates your conclusion. I’d be willing to go with the latter, simply because Haze wasn’t a terribly compelling game and Microsoft had Halo at the time. That isn’t to say I’m right and you’re wrong regarding Haze, it simply means we have no data to support either conclusion. But, because you have one example of one mediocre game going exclusive, doesn’t necessarily translate into a trend. Again, you’re drawing conclusions with circumstantial evidence at best.
Of course, you go on to rather prove my point with Microsoft paying for timed exclusivity of GTA, which Sony didn’t try to match. Why? Because Sony as a company was struggling financially at the time. PS3 dev costs, Blu Ray dev costs, a struggling TV and Camera division. They weren’t exactly an economic powerhouse at the time, and hardly able to afford the kind of cash expenditures you describe.
So they relied mainly on their in-house devs, and 2nd and 3rd party studios who’d been allied with the company throughout the PS2 era, to provide compelling content. Seriously, you are probably the first person I’ve heard of to make the claim that they purchased exclusivity for a slew of titles. Maybe I missed like…3+ years of news, but I was watching the industry pretty closely at the time.
PC Games – SoE
People wouldn’t have cared as much about the PS3’s price point, had it actually had as much content on it, and had the worlds financial stability not imploded. Those two were cataclysmic events for the PS3, because people just didn’t have the expendable income that they had once had. Shit happens.
Sorry, I just don’t agree that Sony purchased all this exclusivity. They didn’t have the money for it, and the divisions within Sony were all hurting too much financially, to be able to afford shelling out large piles of cash for a console that was struggling to take off.
Dakan45
August 23, 2013 at 23:09
haze was also gonna be released on pc, no one owns pc, so yeah they got paid to make it exlusive.
What about quantic dream? They gone exlusive as well.
No one WANTS to be exlusive, they only do it because they get paid to do it, now that bungie, epic and insomniac have broken free of contracts they make multiplatform games.
“Again, you’re drawing conclusions with circumstantial evidence at best.”
Your point was that ps3 had plenty of exlusives due to many inhouse development teams, which is wrong, sure it has more than ms but ps2 had exlusives becuase multiplatform development wasnt viable then, now however sony lost alot of exlusives like say dmc, resident evil, fina fantasy, sillent hill, etc etc.
I was there when sales were low and haze became exlusive in the last minute and since god of war 3 was far away all the focus was on resistance 1 and everyone waited for uncharted and killzone, then they dragged heavy rain in it. Thats how things looked back then, after that ms did the same and threw exlusivity on gears of war 2 and fable 2.
“Because Sony as a company was struggling financially at the time.”
Like i said they took a loss and threw exlusives to sell ps3s, if you have money problems you dont spend more cash to make games, unless you think you can improve your problem that way. That is the “logic” i was using.
Makes sense?
Why do you argue with this? We basicly say the same thing, you think that nearly all of them were bought, obviously not but some exlusive deals were definetly made for profit and not due to sony loyalists alone.
SOE is a mmo company, you cant do mmo on consoles, sooo yeah.
“People wouldn’t have cared as much about the PS3’s price point, had it actually had as much content on it,”
……WHICH IS WHAT I FREAKING SAID ON MY ORIGINAL POST FOR CRYING OUT LOUD.
Content= games, why buy a ps3 instead of a x360? Exlusives, thus ps3 needed exlusives.
HvR
August 21, 2013 at 10:47
I think it is going to be around the same (well depends on what the exchange rate does to the end of the year); no more than R500 more than the PS4.
Pieter Kruger
August 21, 2013 at 10:50
Really hope you’re right! If Xbox One also gets bundled with a game over here and with Kinect and the Headphones included, Xbox fans might be getting a much better deal overall then! ????
TiMsTeR1033
August 21, 2013 at 10:49
I hope for your sake its not thats steep man!
Pieter Kruger
August 21, 2013 at 10:54
I also hope for my Banks’ sake its not! He he he!
TiMsTeR1033
August 21, 2013 at 10:55
If xbox one has a good bundle and is just slightly more than ps4 alot of people might end up getting it.
Spathi
August 21, 2013 at 11:01
Ouch.
Taking R 6300 and dividing that by 399, gives you 15.79. Multiplying that by 499 gives you R 7878.95. So I believe you will be looking more in the region of R 7800 – R 8000 for the XBO.
Warren Ross
August 21, 2013 at 10:20
Not too bad, really. It’s the game prices that are going to be really painful over time 🙁
John ain't got time to bleed
August 21, 2013 at 10:20
That’s not so bad. But what will a game cost? With a pc and steam the master race is spoiled for games prices. It’s always been the deal-breaker for me with consoles.
Hammersteyn
August 21, 2013 at 10:21
Thought it would be around R6500. Not to expensive but still.
Verrayne
August 21, 2013 at 16:30
2007:
In the UK the price was 425 pounds. A pound was R14. = R5950.
Sold for R5999
2013:
In the UK the price is 349 pounds. A pound is now R15 = R5589.99
Sells for R6299
By that logic the thing should sell hopefully for R5750 at launch with a good enough profit margin..
Hammersteyn
August 21, 2013 at 16:46
Here’s hoping
HvR
August 21, 2013 at 17:37
Pound sterling is now R16 not R15.
Skyblue
August 21, 2013 at 10:21
That is too much as usual. Will wait for the library to flesh out and the inevitable price drop.
JS
August 21, 2013 at 10:22
That’s what the PS3 launched at, you know, the $600 one…how can this be right? Oh well, at least theres GTA V and GT6 to play with.
Jakster
August 21, 2013 at 10:24
Add the price of a game to that and the price is looking more like R7000,00.
Jonah Cash
August 21, 2013 at 10:40
And the XBONE will be how much here??? R7500 to R8000…. Will it be bundled with a game like in Europe??? Will the PS4 not be bundled with a game???? At least we now know how much money we need for a PS4, but no local news on when the XBONE will grace our shores or it’s price point!! So your HAHA has a bit off a double edge to it…. And I think the PS4 fanbois are having the last laugh at the moment…
Ian Kemp
August 21, 2013 at 10:50
Actually it’s the PC master race who’s sitting here laughing at all of you console fanboys while we enjoy superior graphics and things like every day game specials from Steam/GOG/et cetera.
Jonah Cash
August 21, 2013 at 10:55
How much is a good gaming PC going for now? And how often does one upgrade? I was a PC gamer, but my folks didn’t have the cash to upgrade my PC ever so had to jump ship to consoles 15 years ago. But now I know absolutely nothing about the master race hardware, back then it was crazy money…. (Not sarcastic, really interested to know how much your PC cost you)
TiMsTeR1033
August 21, 2013 at 10:57
Top range gaming pc cost you around 15 to 20 k depending what you want it to have… but 7k can build you a really good pc too.
Jonah Cash
August 21, 2013 at 11:01
Good enough to run the games that the XBONE and PS4 will run and with the same quality? And then how long before my R7k PC can’t run the new AAA games? I don’t really play indie games, I only play AAA games….
Admiral Chief Raider of Tombs
August 21, 2013 at 11:04
A 20k PC is overkill. You can get one (monitor, KB, MS excl) for R10k that will knock the socks off anything. But then you can go total overkill as well and spend 20k
HvR
August 21, 2013 at 11:07
If you shop around and “get a few contacts” you probably cut it down to R8k.
TiMsTeR1033
August 21, 2013 at 11:07
Its the GFX cards that cost the most. top range card goes for what these days??
HvR
August 21, 2013 at 11:15
Well you can drop R10k+ on GFX card but a R2000 card will allow you max out settings. COD players tend want 150+ FPS so they go ape shit, if I have to play something on medium settings near EOL it doesn’t really bother me.
I have a 8 year old rig (mostly used as back up and server) than can still run most strategy games at decent settings.
Also consoles aren’t tax deductible 😉
Jonah Cash
August 21, 2013 at 11:19
A good old SARS comment thrown in makes me sit up and take notice!!!
Jonah Cash
August 21, 2013 at 11:39
But MS said that I can use the Kinect for my business?!?!? Can see the guy sitting at SARS looking at me like I am an idiot when I tell him that!!
Admiral Chief Raider of Tombs
August 21, 2013 at 11:29
Evetech has nice bundles, they even burn in the HW for you if you buy a full kit from them
John ain't got time to bleed
August 21, 2013 at 11:09
Thank you
Jonah Cash
August 21, 2013 at 11:10
I’m starting to remember why I converted to the console!! All this sounds like a lot of work, I don’t need to read the back of a game to see if my machine can run it… If there is a PS3 or Xbox 360 sticker on it I know I can play it…. But I agree you PC gents do win enough back on game sales alone to make it worth your while!! But I rarely buy games on the first day, so I also save a bit…
John ain't got time to bleed
August 21, 2013 at 11:11
It’s not work if you’re a gamer. Your pc is your pride and joy. And I haven’t looked whether my pc can run a game in eight years
TiMsTeR1033
August 21, 2013 at 11:13
I miss those days of building my pc up…but at the same time I dont miss the settings for every game to play around with…
Jonah Cash
August 21, 2013 at 11:13
My TV’s, consoles, Samsung Series 9 laptop, Sound system and iPad mini are mine…. But I get it, I think you guys probably use less money on gaming if we go by the cycles the consoles run!! (Oh and my laptop cost more that what you guys are talking about, but it is purely for work and Lazygamer)
Dakan45
August 23, 2013 at 01:47
No but you got dlcs, subscriptions, online passes and other crap such as patches, that dont work, so you uninstall the patch, reinstall the game and yeah, pretty much console gaming has become complicated. My biggest problem with consoles is that i cant customize controls, i have to stick to presets.
TiMsTeR1033
August 21, 2013 at 11:05
Ummm I dunno about that…. same as xbox one and ps4 to be honest a 15 to 20 k pc would cut it to play the AAA games for about 2 years maybe 3 before you got to turn down settings…. But I only know so much, sure other guys would give you a better idea…. But reall the price tag you pay for a next gen console cant be beaten by a pc anyday…
John ain't got time to bleed
August 21, 2013 at 11:10
The games quickly rack up the price.
Dakan45
August 23, 2013 at 01:46
If you upgrade instead of building one, that could work well. Every begining of a console generation is a big push in requirements but now pc hardware will be actually utilized and pc has been next gen for many years, sooo games may actually come out more optimized. Again next gen consoles use pc hardware.
HvR
August 21, 2013 at 11:05
Hardware requirement flattened out quite a lot over the last few years; in the 90’s and early 2000’s it used to be 2 years max before upgrade. No you can easily go 4 years with minor R3k upgrade to extend it another 3 years.
Keep in mind games are half price so you break even after 10 games.
Problem is so many games on different platforms giving so many different types of experiences,
So a true gamer lets his family starve and gets everything.
Dakan45
August 23, 2013 at 01:44
The reason for that is that games are made for consoles and thus having limited graphical advances, also this gen is by far the longest, i hope ps4/xbone dont go for longer than 5 years.
John ain't got time to bleed
August 21, 2013 at 11:13
You’re missing out by not playing indie games.
Jonah Cash
August 21, 2013 at 11:15
I know but I don’t have the time, I have a bit of a Fifa addiction you see and there is now AA meetings yet. So I just feed it every night for about two to three hours!! Hahahaha
John ain't got time to bleed
August 21, 2013 at 11:16
Haha. Alright, fair enough. Time is a bitch when you grow older.
Admiral Chief Raider of Tombs
August 21, 2013 at 11:21
FTL is FTW
Jonah Cash
August 21, 2013 at 11:24
FTL?????
Admiral Chief Raider of Tombs
August 21, 2013 at 11:27
http://store.steampowered.com/app/212680/
yessir, so damn good
John ain't got time to bleed
August 21, 2013 at 11:29
Dammit! Shite work blocks Steam.
Admiral Chief Raider of Tombs
August 21, 2013 at 11:30
http://www.ftlgame.com/
John ain't got time to bleed
August 21, 2013 at 11:30
I hate my office…
Admiral Chief Raider of Tombs
August 21, 2013 at 11:31
Still nothing?
John ain't got time to bleed
August 21, 2013 at 11:32
Just googled it. Thanks anyway.
Admiral Chief Raider of Tombs
August 21, 2013 at 11:32
Very cool dude, 46 hours into it….I may be addicted….
John ain't got time to bleed
August 21, 2013 at 11:32
Will check it out.
John ain't got time to bleed
August 21, 2013 at 11:08
7k can build you a decent pc that can run most games better than consoles. I spent 8k on mine and it runs everything on high. You just have to know where to shop for parts.
TiMsTeR1033
August 21, 2013 at 11:11
Parts cost yes is important but what about top end graphics cards?? they like 5 grand alone… or atleast close… Talking about future games that are gonna push the shit outta current pc tech.
John ain't got time to bleed
August 21, 2013 at 11:12
You don’t need top end to be on par with the consoles. That’s the thing.
TiMsTeR1033
August 21, 2013 at 11:15
thats where you wrong man ps3 and xbox 360 still look amazing and current pcs are needed for games like that on pc eg crysis, sure pc has higher textures ect but still looks amazing like gta 5. next gen games are gonna be massive you will need to have top range to get to the level of games of the future… if pcs were for soley gaming like had nothing else to run then sure they would be on par or beat next gen consoles but its never that way.
John ain't got time to bleed
August 21, 2013 at 11:19
I have a PS3, and I have a PC. So I’m not a PC fanboy. I also have two exact games on both (they were given to me), and there is no competition.
Dakan45
August 23, 2013 at 01:43
Current consoles run games at low settings. Also lower resolution and less fps.
7-8 year consoles doe that, you dont magically get better perfomance, you just run at dated graphics
“they would be on par or beat next gen consoles but its never that way.”
Actually that was always the case, go find me a 8 core cpu that is only 1.6ghz, you cant. Its too crap.
Quake 2 looked better on pc, half life 2 looked better on pc, morrowind looked better on pc. Oblivion looked better on pc. Pretty much everything looked better on pc
HvR
August 21, 2013 at 11:17
Rather spend R2500 now and R2500(plus interest) on an upgrade.
Dakan45
August 23, 2013 at 01:40
“Talking about future games that are gonna push the shit outta current pc tech.’
SUREEE glorious consoles with a 1.6ghz 8 core cpus and xbox one having weaker gpu than the underclocked midrange cpu that ps4 has are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO gonna push pc hardware.
Brian Murphy
August 21, 2013 at 18:13
Hah, only if you’re making sacrifices. If you were to design a top of the line PC right now, you could conceivably spend R169,286.42. Maximum PC just put together their newest Dream Machine and holy shitballs, were they not kidding.
CPU – Intel Core i7 3970X – R10207.20
Mobo – Asus Rampage IV Extreme – R4389.10
RAM – 64g Corsair Dominator Platinum – R12248.64
GPU – 4x EVGA GeForce GTX Titan Hydro Copper – R47769.70
SSD – 2x Samsung 840 Pro – R10207.20
SSD – 2x Crucial M500 – R12248.64
HDD – 3x WD Caviar Black (4TB/ea) – R9186.48
ODD – Pioneer BDR-208DBK – R714.50
Cooling – Custom Liquid Cooling – R10207.20
PSU – LEPA G1600-MA – R3368.38
Case – Corsair 900D – R3572.52
Paint – Smooth Creations – R4082.88
OS – Windows 8 Professional – R1020.72
Monitor – Asus PQ321 – R38787.36
Mouse – Steel Series Sensei – R765.54
Keyboard – IBM Model M – R510.36
Yes, that’s 4 GTX Titans, 15TB of storage, 64g of RAM, 17 fans and two gigantic radiators. It pulls down 178 FPS in Batman: Arkam City at max resolution. And scored 17,199 in 3DMark 11 (high enough that at the time of publication, it was the 6th highest score in 3DMark 11, ever).
Now all I need is to win the lottery 😉
ThatManOverThere
August 21, 2013 at 11:14
Built my PC for 13k 3 years ago… No need for upgrades as I can still run ANYTHING on Ultimate… So yeah… Do bit of research and go mid range, no need for over kill. I will do minor upgrades (RAM mostly) in the next year or so, and still be gaming away a while!
eXpZA
August 21, 2013 at 10:59
Crysis 2 in Humble Bundle: $1 (R10)
PC to run it: R20,000 (assuming no monitor, mouse, keyboard etc)
Admiral Chief Raider of Tombs
August 21, 2013 at 11:00
Come now, you are lying there (about PC, not the game price)
TiMsTeR1033
August 21, 2013 at 11:01
You try run crysis 2 on full res and settings on high or ultra high… I havent tried but i can only guess what power you will need…
Admiral Chief Raider of Tombs
August 21, 2013 at 11:03
My 5YO PC does that, granted, I have a beast of a GFX I got last year, but still, rest of tech is flippen old
Jonah Cash
August 21, 2013 at 11:04
How much did the beast of a GFX cost you? If you don’t mind me asking…
Admiral Chief Raider of Tombs
August 21, 2013 at 11:06
Technically, nothing, as I sold an iPad I won, like a true geek.
But in monetary values it was discounted back then to 3.2k randelas. And future proof for many moons
Alien Emperor Trevor
August 21, 2013 at 11:12
I was, with my almost 3 year old PC. I was still playing Tomb Raider 2 weeks ago on Ultra mode with all the bells & whistle turned on with zero problem – 30fps across the board.
Don’t get sucked in by the bleeding edge of tech, you don’t need it. You can spend a fortune on hardware that doesn’t actually get used.
Troll Slayer
August 21, 2013 at 11:15
People with high-end hardware just like to boast about their e-Penis.
Admiral Chief Raider of Tombs
August 21, 2013 at 11:20
LOL @ 30fps.
AHEM at my 60FPS
Alien Emperor Trevor
August 21, 2013 at 11:26
Like there’s a meaningful difference ;P
I HATE YOU.
Admiral Chief Raider of Tombs
August 21, 2013 at 11:28
Now now, we both play awesome games on awesome platform. Mine just looks smoother, but still 😛
Alien Emperor Trevor
August 21, 2013 at 11:35
What gfx card you running now anyway? I’m still jamming my Radeon 6950 – it’s like a gift that never stops giving.
Admiral Chief Raider of Tombs
August 21, 2013 at 11:37
7870OC
Also, WINNAR on your card dude!
I was rocking a 4670 for AGES, and traded up after the ipad sale
Alien Emperor Trevor
August 21, 2013 at 11:39
Sweet. I was lucky when I built my current PC, card was 40% off – BUY BUY BUY!
Admiral Chief Raider of Tombs
August 21, 2013 at 11:41
Schweet. I got mine for R3.2k and was rolling at R4800 at that stage I think, or R4.5k
Dakan45
August 23, 2013 at 01:38
Consoles run crysis 2 on medium at 1280x720p with barelly 30 fps with 55 fov, soooo yeah.
Troll Slayer
August 21, 2013 at 11:13
Utter BS. A Core i5, 550Ti, 4gb RAM PC will run Crysis 2 in FHD and it will cost R6K max.
John ain't got time to bleed
August 21, 2013 at 11:16
Yes, and Crysis 2 isn’t exactly worth $1 anyway.
Admiral Chief Raider of Tombs
August 21, 2013 at 11:20
Its worth $2. I liked it, but not full price liked it
John ain't got time to bleed
August 21, 2013 at 11:21
Okay, maybe I was unreasonable. Not full price. It just didn’t compare with the first Crysis at all.
Admiral Chief Raider of Tombs
August 21, 2013 at 11:29
Indeed, first Crysis was >>>>>>
Weerwolf
August 21, 2013 at 12:41
Just read all these comments and realized most console gamers have no idea what hardware costs. R20k for a PC? That’s insane. Did a full upgrade about 3 years ago which cost me R6k. Bought a GTX 660Ti about a month ago for R3k and I can run Crysis 3 on ultra. So no idea what your guys are smoking. Think most console gamers made the switch when hardware still lasted you about a year. Those days are long gone.
Brian Murphy
August 21, 2013 at 19:16
The problem is, many of these folks have never actually researched building a PC, and don’t understand that buying the bleeding edge tech, is a waste of money. It took YEARS for companies to actually utilize Quad-core processors properly. It took years for companies to create engines that actually utilize GPU resources properly (and it takes AMD/Nvidia years to properly tweak the drivers appropriately as well).
There is no need to go all in, on a PC build unless you have an exorbitant amount of excess cash. The only piece of your PC you should gladly and willingly pay top dollar for, is the mobo. And that’s so that in the future, you have plenty of room for expansion/upgrade. The rest, as you say, can be mid-range, and the PC will be competitive for years and years to come.
Admiral Chief Raider of Tombs
August 22, 2013 at 08:15
Indeed dude. My PC is currently 5yo, with exception of the GFX (7870OC) that I got last year. And no issues. Although been showing a bit of age lately
Dakan45
August 23, 2013 at 01:36
Meh a 5 year old pc can max crysis 2 minus the AA. Now crysis 3….yeah thats harsh.
Jakster
August 21, 2013 at 10:57
MS will match or beat that price with a free game and Kinect 2.0. SK are the ones being greedy here. They’ve done this with the PS3.
Jonah Cash
August 21, 2013 at 11:00
The Kinect can’t be seen as a good point in any conversation unless your young and willing… I am neither!! But I don’t think the PS4 will launch without a game or will it? That would be stupid, how do you sell a new product? You give incentives…. Maybe Knack or another indie game, but surely a game will be included!?! Or am I hoping for too much????
Spathi
August 21, 2013 at 11:12
Drive Club (missing a few tracks and cars) and Play Room comes free with all PS4s, not just EU pre-orders.
Jonah Cash
August 21, 2013 at 11:17
I don’t want more little things running around in my house(Play room)
And I suck at car games, last one I could beat people at was Carmageddon, but that is just because I could do cool combo kills!!! Hahaha
Umar Kiiroi Senk?
August 21, 2013 at 10:25
Gaaad Deeeem, will wait for library to expand and price to drop a lil bit. can only imagine what X1 is gonna cost here
Jakster
August 21, 2013 at 10:28
The One, as I like to call it, will sell for the same price over here. So typical of SK to screw over the local market. They’ve done this before with the PS3, PS2 and PS Vita. I hope for your loyalty and patience that they at least throw in a free game.
Umar Kiiroi Senk?
August 21, 2013 at 10:30
Not really loyal to any brand. but dam SK is screwing big time. well, will wait it out, never good to adopt early
Airborne
August 21, 2013 at 10:26
Is that just the controller (1) and console?
Slade Boender
August 21, 2013 at 10:26
Ag fok. There goes my bonus
bluegoon
August 22, 2013 at 06:32
I hear you 🙁
Zubayr Bhyat
August 21, 2013 at 10:30
Rarely worth it to buy next-gen immediately imo 🙂 Waited at least a year for me to get my 360.
Lardus-Respect the beard
August 21, 2013 at 10:33
Well good news for PS4 fans then. Now to wait for Xbox release as well.
ALKi1234
August 21, 2013 at 10:40
I refuse to believe that.
VinTaco
August 21, 2013 at 10:40
How can SK justify the 50% increase over the USA price?
HvR
August 21, 2013 at 10:45
We always get stock from the UK batch (same tv systems and power supply), so they work from the UK price. The UK sterling to rand exchange rate is what is pushing up the price.
Also the US price excludes VAT, so add 10% to 15% on what they actually pay in the US.
VinTaco
August 21, 2013 at 10:50
Thanks for that.
I checked the UK price and current exchange: R5600 odd. So its R700 more on a direct price comparison.
Regarding the USA, sales tax varies from state to state, with about 4 of them having no sales tax whatsoever.
HvR
August 21, 2013 at 11:22
Well for direct comparison I would use our VAT rate (14%) since the retailer and MS wants to get the $399 out before taxes.
I think SK also needs to carry the extra shipping cost from the UK, this has gone through the roof (20% year on year I heard from people doing large scale import/exports).
I do not think SK as an “official distributor” is given free rein on pricing.
John ain't got time to bleed
August 21, 2013 at 11:24
I work in imports and I completely agree with you. I think the price is fair.
TiMsTeR1033
August 21, 2013 at 10:52
because they dont give a shit, hell even the games ps3 that is can be sold at a much lower price. I heard all this from my bro a few years back when he worked for Sk.
Jonah Cash
August 21, 2013 at 10:44
Just make sure that My Dogs (Watch Dogs) is available at launch and I am in!!!
FoxHoundR - NO LONGER TROLLING
August 21, 2013 at 10:48
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAAAAAAA
TiMsTeR1033
August 21, 2013 at 10:49
what you laughing at you gotta pay more…..
Jonah Cash
August 21, 2013 at 10:56
Yes but he only has to pay more later so in his eyes he wins….. And when they launch the XBONE and its R8k we will not see him till the end of next year!!
Jakster
August 21, 2013 at 10:58
SK doesn’t distribute Xbox consoles… HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
TiMsTeR1033
August 21, 2013 at 11:00
Well done I shall give you a noddy badge…
Spathi
August 21, 2013 at 11:15
Hoekom het Noddy ‘n klokkie op sy hoed?
TiMsTeR1033
August 21, 2013 at 11:18
i dont know man? why is my afrikaans so bad they would mock me for life if I lived in pretoria?
Admiral Chief Raider of Tombs
August 21, 2013 at 11:19
lol, vertel maar?
Spathi
August 21, 2013 at 11:21
Want hy is ‘n P%&$.
Sorry, dis ‘n 3 uur in die oggend grappie 😀
Admiral Chief Raider of Tombs
August 21, 2013 at 11:22
HAHAHA, ek onthou daai een
Melasco
August 21, 2013 at 10:51
Just a general note on this… People don’t think twice about buying a R9k smartphone with a typical lifetime of 2 years… A PHONE!!! But moans about the price on a PS4 that should last 6 + years…. The fact that you pay a smartphone off over 2 years is irrelevent, you could have saved monthly for the console, we all knew they were comming… Damn wierd humans 🙂
HeniQpotter
August 21, 2013 at 10:54
On that topic, maybe we should get data packages with a console in stead of a darft laptop….
TiMsTeR1033
August 21, 2013 at 10:56
Perhaps if they did the same for a ps4 then people would see the light…
Pieter Kruger
August 21, 2013 at 11:03
Very true that! This year alone I dropped R7k on a tablet!! Myself and MS thank you good sir, you’ve just justified my next gen purchase for me! ????
Jakster
August 21, 2013 at 11:09
With your phone/tablet, you get data and airtime back for free.
Jonah Cash
August 21, 2013 at 11:23
I promise you, you are not getting anything for free from Vodacom or MTN or Cell C, they make up for it somehow!!! They are shrewd buggers all of them!!!
Melasco
August 21, 2013 at 12:04
Yup, nothing is free…
hayted
August 21, 2013 at 10:56
Jikes!!! – It is a bit more than I thought (was looking around the R5500 mark) – But it will provide years of entertainment so I can justify the purchase (practicing my speech for the Missus).
TiMsTeR1033
August 21, 2013 at 10:59
i know I was gonna say around R5500 mark too…. 🙁
John ain't got time to bleed
August 21, 2013 at 10:59
I don’t think it’s completely outrageous. I would pay that for a PS4.
ryan
August 21, 2013 at 11:05
how does this pricing work. how does $399 translate to R6299 ???
Pieter Kruger
August 21, 2013 at 11:07
Chinese bookkeeping!
MarsRSA
August 21, 2013 at 11:14
Just a quick look at this from a mathematical point of view. We will be importing from the Europe (Like we usually do) and according to Playstation SA we need to consider the UK pricing (most likely their importing straight from the UK then) which is 350Pounds. The current exchange rate is R15.93. So 350×15.93= R5575.50. Then adding 14% VAT gives a total of R6356.07. Still think it’s not fair given they set it at R6299? So blame our region and our poor exchange rate. NOT Sony or the distributors
Jonah Cash
August 21, 2013 at 11:21
So blame Zuma and his entitled friends you mean????!!!! The Rand is going to dogs…
Trebzz
August 21, 2013 at 11:32
R60 a day if you save from now.
John ain't got time to bleed
August 21, 2013 at 11:33
Who needs to eat anyway?
Trebzz
August 21, 2013 at 11:37
Bread and butter 😛
MarsRSA
August 21, 2013 at 11:39
Peeps knew about it since Feb so your excuses are not valid 😛
Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)
August 21, 2013 at 11:42
While, I’ve saved up well over the RRP (with enough for a couple of games), it’s still a crap load of money. December is going to be interesting. 😮
Sharpnsexyoak
August 21, 2013 at 11:57
So let me get this straight, the selling price is the USA is $399 and we will be expected to pay…. $616! Bugger all the fancy mathematics, that’s just plain theft!
Ricardo Harvey
August 21, 2013 at 12:47
Wasnt the launch price supposed to be $400
http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2013/08/playstation-4-release-date/
will importing help?
veggiesaurus ZA
August 21, 2013 at 14:05
This pricing looks pretty great right now: http://www.phoenix-tech.net/SA/ps4-games.html
Yannic Gallucci
August 21, 2013 at 15:16
Wow you’ll have to pay even more than the euro price,and that’s already a 100$ more than if youd just buy it in dollars.
Dakan45
August 23, 2013 at 01:34
Yup damn everyone who dare price euros like they are dollars. Its degrading.
CypherGate
August 21, 2013 at 16:31
Lets hope to bonuses!!!