Could you imagine back during E3 that the Xbox One could possibly match the PlayStation 4 in sales at release? The amount of anger and hatred aimed at Redmond was unprecedented and it looked like Microsoft were on the verge of leaving the console race in this generation.
Fast forward just one month and the extremely controversial DRM and always online requirements have been dropped and things are definitely turning around.
Not only has Microsoft confirmed that Gamestop has had to close pre-orders due to huge demand, but now according to an industry analyst Microsoft may be well placed to manufacture up to three times the amount of Xbox One’s as Sony can.
According to Colin Sebastian from Baird
“Despite losing the headline battle at E3, Microsoft’s Xbox One appears to be regaining some momentum, in part due to the used and online policy tweaks. Importantly, our supply chain checks suggest Microsoft may have the benefit of a 2-3x unit advantage at launch compared to Sony’s PS4”
He is also expecting both consoles to sell out this holiday season so once again it’s a good idea to pre-order if you want to have the PlayStation 4 before Christmas. Mind you, is there really a point?
I have to say that I am surprised that Microsoft appears to have a better supply chain setup seeing that Sony’s main business is electronics (main, not most profitable) while Microsoft is far more famous for software development and online services.
If Colin is right then I’d have to put it directly down to the poor financial state of Sony at the moment compared to the financial juggernaut that is Microsoft. With enough money and the right talent nothing can stand in the way.
Last Updated: July 24, 2013
Ultimo_Cleric N7
July 24, 2013 at 14:02
HEY COLIN!
Prove it. Show me the numbers and I will believe you.
RinceWind
July 24, 2013 at 14:13
My thoughts too.
Argentil
July 24, 2013 at 14:05
Aw, I was hoping you’d add his previous analyses to the article. He’s got a terrible track record.
Spathi
July 24, 2013 at 14:06
If both consoles will sell out this holiday season, it only comes down to who can manufacture more systems, as mentioned in the article. I wonder if the availability of GDDR 5 is holding Sony back?
Devin Runyan
July 24, 2013 at 21:30
Sony is not behind. They just take there time in manufacturing. MS is the one with the chip problem and they started manufacturing a month after Sony started building their PS4s..yet MS is ahead by 3-1. YEA RIGHT!
e1ace
July 25, 2013 at 07:34
Those are some bold statements. All of them rumours which could easily be false.
Spathi
July 25, 2013 at 08:15
Why would they take their time? Time is money. I’m not saying you are incorrect, but it doesn’t make sense to me. Also, the fact that MS is ahead also doesn’t make sense, as they started later with the development of the XB1, but I have no idea when they fixed the hardware specs.
In the end, it is all speculation and largely irrelevant for the user. As long as I can get a PS4 at launch (if I decide to buy at launch), I’ll be a happy camper.
Spathi
July 25, 2013 at 08:15
Why would they take their time? Time is money. I’m not saying you are incorrect, but it doesn’t make sense to me. Also, the fact that MS is ahead also doesn’t make sense, as they started later with the development of the XB1, but I have no idea when they fixed the hardware specs.
In the end, it is all speculation and largely irrelevant for the user. As long as I can get a PS4 at launch (if I decide to buy at launch), I’ll be a happy camper.
Mark Treloar
July 24, 2013 at 14:07
Yeah i love industry analysts. They are like con-men only with legal consent.
Argentil
July 24, 2013 at 14:08
Having re-read the article, Gavin, you seem to have misunderstood this prediction as fact.
Argentil
July 24, 2013 at 14:46
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=631946
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=72333551
Argentil
July 24, 2013 at 14:46
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=631946
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=72333551
Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)
July 24, 2013 at 14:10
That depends on whether retailers have confidence in the box, and whether they’ll buy oodles of units, dump them in warehouses and wait for the sale storm. It might happen, Microsoft might just have a killer app in two or three years…, but at this stage, I think Colin needs to stop smoking his underpants.
This is what I hate about game journalism, you have a lot of unverifiable opinions, with very little substance. It’s all about “clicking ma website for hits”.
It would have been different if Colin threw in some numbers or even extrapolated sales and preorders (or used historical data from previous console releases to justify his claims), instead of just sucking it out of his asshole.
Argentil
July 24, 2013 at 14:11
Thing is, numerous facts are pointing to MS having fewer units available at launch, than Sony. Sony just got their FCC, which makes them ready for launch day at this point. MS, on the other hand, do not.
Devin Runyan
July 24, 2013 at 21:32
MS also started manufacturing a month after Sony. Rumor has it that MS is having a chipset problem too. IF true, no way in hell they will triple Sony..
Sageville
July 24, 2013 at 14:17
My homage to Colin:
RinceWind
July 24, 2013 at 14:37
Sucking it out his colon? 0-O
Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)
July 24, 2013 at 14:42
Yes, like most internet pseudo-intellectuals, He sucked it out of his own colon….
RinceWind
July 24, 2013 at 14:47
Oi, did you just saw I is stupid? 0-O
Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)
July 24, 2013 at 14:49
Lies, you’re a gentleman scholar! Let no man tell you otherwise!
RinceWind
July 24, 2013 at 15:00
*Grunt
Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)
July 24, 2013 at 14:42
Yes, like most internet pseudo-intellectuals, He sucked it out of his own colon….
Melasco
July 24, 2013 at 14:13
I have no doubt in my mind that in the US XBONE will outsell PS4, but I think PS4 will have a clear advantage in other regions. As for XBox outshipping PS4 3 – 1… I don’t know about that… Both need factories to manufacture the consoles, and there are only so many that can + I’m sure Sony owns a few… Who knows… At the end of the day if I look at my own demand, I’ll rather wait 6 months for a PS4 than buy the XBONE, so it may not make much of a difference…
e1ace
July 25, 2013 at 07:31
I was in the same mind set about US Xbox One outselling the PS4. But looking at Amazon’s best sellers for 2013 (so far) shows a different picture. http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/2013/videogames/ref=zg_bs_tab_t_bsar
InsanityFlea
July 24, 2013 at 14:15
Ambitious. I’m not getting another console after my 360, but if I were, it would be the PS4.
Good luck to them both. The consumer will be the decider.
Sageville
July 24, 2013 at 14:18
Oh you fence-sitter you!
InsanityFlea
July 24, 2013 at 14:33
Haha, now that consoles are on x86, I don’t need to waste money on a console. We will see decent PC titles and not shitty ports. So i’ll stick with my rig since she’s a beast.
Devin Runyan
July 24, 2013 at 21:34
You won’t be playing first party PS4 exclusives on your PC.
InsanityFlea
July 28, 2013 at 16:00
I wont buy a console just to play exclusives. That’s a waste of money.
OVG
July 24, 2013 at 14:19
Outship, but SONY will still outsell FOUR to ONE.
RinceWind
July 24, 2013 at 14:22
Bwahahaha! Nice.
LordCaptainAwesomeness
July 24, 2013 at 14:24
I see what you did there… You wins the interwebs for today
Melasco
July 24, 2013 at 14:26
Haha, upvote!
Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)
July 24, 2013 at 14:30
lol, an epic end-level boss, OVG strikes again!
Umar Kiiroi Senk?
July 24, 2013 at 14:23
If they have more units ….. uhmmm they will have an advantage IF more people do eventually want to buy, will they outsell in the long run??
Martin du preez
July 24, 2013 at 14:24
In other news: McDonalds Junior cheese burgers to “outship” gourmet burgers
Melasco
July 24, 2013 at 14:27
ROFL!
RinceWind
July 24, 2013 at 14:27
Bwahahah! Nice!
Sageville
July 24, 2013 at 14:28
Upvote!, But seriously, “McDonalds” and “Gourmet” in the same sentence???
Disparity!
Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)
July 24, 2013 at 14:32
In other news: Justin Bieber to “outship” AMON AMARTH!
Metal-heads unfazed because Bieber tried to kill the METAL! BUT HE WAS SLAMMED INTO THE GROUND!!!
Martin du preez
July 24, 2013 at 14:34
By Thor’s mighty hammer! You are entitled to a BELLS!
Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)
July 24, 2013 at 14:37
BY THE POWER OF THE THUNDER GOD, I will drink that Bells, while Odin’s EYE stares into the great abyss!!
Martin du preez
July 24, 2013 at 14:38
I shall tell this mighty fine tale in pursuit of vikings!
Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)
July 24, 2013 at 14:41
May your beard carry the moist sea air of the Motherland with you, and may your axe find the skulls of those who would oppose you!! May blind Hod’s winter fury never calm your resolve!!
RAAWRRR!!!
(Damnit I wish I was a Viking)
Martin du preez
July 24, 2013 at 14:44
I tried being a viking once,drank 2 of those 1ltr,10% Faxe beers. Almost died. Don’t have it in me..
Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)
July 24, 2013 at 14:47
I once drank mead in a dungeon bar in inner Stockholm… For the briefest moment, I felt like a man with balls the size of mountains! If they had given me a longship I would have invaded Denmark on my lonesome.
RinceWind
July 24, 2013 at 18:56
ANd succeded!
LordCaptainAwesomeness
July 24, 2013 at 15:29
He he he Noob….
Martin du preez
July 24, 2013 at 14:44
I tried being a viking once,drank 2 of those 1ltr,10% Faxe beers. Almost died. Don’t have it in me..
ElimiNathan
July 24, 2013 at 14:25
I forsee stores packed full of Xbox Ones and no PS4’s, and it shall stay that way for eternity
RinceWind
July 24, 2013 at 14:26
Great, so there will be another 3 billion dollars put aside when the Kinect bricks 😛
Kenny Stubbs
July 24, 2013 at 14:26
I have doubts about this considering all other rumours/reports say otherwise. Even if they manage to outship the PS4 I don’t think they will out sell it
That Super Twit
July 24, 2013 at 14:28
Must be 3 to 1 in the US of A only.
Mathias
July 24, 2013 at 14:30
You don’t get bored of the fanboyism. Micro$oft sucks, but Soniers act like you’be been waiting for a long time to cheer about something. It’s pathetic in both ways.
Martin du preez
July 24, 2013 at 14:31
And fun! Don’t forget the fun part!
Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)
July 24, 2013 at 14:33
How dare you say Micro$oft? It’s MICRO$$$$$OFT!!
Mathias
July 24, 2013 at 14:35
Point made. 🙂
Martin du preez
July 24, 2013 at 14:41
Did you just reply to yourself?
Anyways dude,don’t get so upset when people poke fun at a piece of plastic. These things don’t have feelings 🙂
RinceWind
July 24, 2013 at 19:31
Don’t you lie! The Xbox One has sight, that’s a sense!
Brady miaau
July 24, 2013 at 15:01
No, I think not. I think the downvotes were not a reflection on what you said, but on how you said it.
Mathias
July 24, 2013 at 17:24
Any pro-Sony comment gets upvotes no matter what. Any pro-Microsoft comment gets automatically downvoted, even if somehow they make sense. People here used to keep it civil, but since this whole new gen shit started most are back to their fanboy self.
It was funny at first, hilarious even, now it’s just sad. The site doesn’t help, and the comments section is a constant “bash M$… bash CoD… Sony wins” and that kind of bullshit. You all laugh at each others jokes only if it’s pro-Sony, because for your eyes is the only way that something can be funny.
You can make fun all you want, you won’t stop being pathetic fanboy shitheads most of the time.
Obviously I’m not including each and every one of you, but really, it’s kind of sad. Now go and make fun or call me a MS fanboy or whatever, Im sure you’ll get your loved upvotes.
Both are companies after your money, if anyone here believes one cares about you more than the other, just stop. Being naive is not the way.
Jakster
July 24, 2013 at 18:35
Yeah, this site seems to be overrun by Sony fanbois. It’s sad to see so many people sink with Sony. If you look closely, it’s the same “clique” poking fun at MS and Sony. Eventually the traffic on this site will decrease because those that want to make opinions simple can’t anymore. Disqus isn’t helping the situation either with it’s up and downvote system.
RinceWind
July 24, 2013 at 18:54
LOL. traffic is going to decrease is it? That must be why Gavin has had to increase server space, and also why is constantly being asked tonadvertise. Nice one mate!
Jakster
July 24, 2013 at 20:43
The increase in server space was to cater for more meme’s and useless social integration plugins to the NSA.
RinceWind
July 24, 2013 at 20:48
“and useless social integration plugins to the NSA” YET YOU DEFEND THE XBOX ONE hahahaha. Man, that is some funny shit. You get a thumbs up for that!
Devin Runyan
July 24, 2013 at 21:38
And the first year or two when the PS3 was released it was a pure XBOX crowd and worldwhereever you went. Time to taste your own medicine!
Devin Runyan
July 24, 2013 at 21:37
I think you are angry. Preeze tell how angry?
Sageville
July 24, 2013 at 14:54
At least these discussions get heated and sometimes humorous, whereas your comment…. well… it’s kinda just boring and inflamatory isn’t it.
RinceWind
July 24, 2013 at 22:38
Agreed, and ‘it’ wonders at the thumbs downs?
Melasco
July 24, 2013 at 15:22
“been waiting for a long time to cheer about something.” Why would you say that?
dave mcnair
July 24, 2013 at 14:40
#onlyinamerica
Brady miaau
July 24, 2013 at 14:48
I hope they have a lot of warehouse space…..
El-Trollo
July 24, 2013 at 15:04
Why would anyone buy a PS4 anyway? Will Sony even exist halfway through the next console generation? Actually is there anything with a Sony badge worth buying? Even at R2K with free games and PSN+ nobody wants to buy the Vita. It’s only a matter of time until Sony becomes Sony China and they release a gold PS4 China, my China’s.
Martin du preez
July 24, 2013 at 15:31
0/10
Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)
July 24, 2013 at 15:33
Trolling should come from the heart… 🙁 0/10
Martin du preez
July 24, 2013 at 15:35
I actually felt my brain cells committing hari-kiri when I read that.
Deano
July 24, 2013 at 16:21
Have to say this guy makes as much sense as you 😛
Martin du preez
July 24, 2013 at 16:24
Thanks babe
El-Trollo
July 24, 2013 at 18:36
You have brain cells without a brain. That’s a world first right here on Lazygamer.
RinceWind
July 24, 2013 at 19:32
0/10. Try harder, try again!
El-Trollo
July 24, 2013 at 20:44
0? I’m still in the positive mold 😉
RinceWind
July 24, 2013 at 22:27
Indeed! Though I think there are the maths geeks out there who would venture that 0 doesn’t exist and is in fact a large snowman 🙂
LordCaptainAwesomeness
July 24, 2013 at 15:35
Your Trolling is bad, and you should feel bad
Sageville
July 24, 2013 at 16:13
If you were a dog I’d be rubbing your face in your own comment right now.
El-Trollo
July 24, 2013 at 20:45
Daisy’s FTW!!!
Concerned
July 24, 2013 at 17:29
You forgot about their new “intelligent phone” thingy! Worst reviews EVER, that thing is bleeding money!!! ????????????????????
Troll Slayer
July 24, 2013 at 15:09
Look at the Sony Defense Force resurrecting their lazy behinds.
http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mav5qyefcM1rtj4kjo1_500.gif
Matthew Tripoli
July 24, 2013 at 16:05
sorry but this is almost laughable. first the ps4 sold outat gamestop before xbox and all reprts i have read was tha sony had more consoles available for pre-order. myvstore had triple the qmunt of ps4 stock then xbox one . The other problem with this claim is that it contradicts reports of xbox one apu yieldproblems due to the esram and that the xbox is not going to be available in qs many regions as the ps4 at launch. it is not even going to be sold in asiafor the first year. somthing else people forget is micrsoft in business to make money for themselves and their shareholders so you can just throw endless amounts of money at something.
Brenz
July 24, 2013 at 17:05
Pfft, its the ‘Muricans who are all lining up for it in the masses, and few unguided local souls.
They will ship more in the first couple months, then once all the die hard fans have one Ps4 will start to creep and overtake the sales, eventually crushing them in the long run, as it will take a little while of both consoles being released for the stubborn ones to see which is the superior console.
As I have said it, so shall it be.
Concerned
July 24, 2013 at 17:25
“SONY PS4 STOCK SHORTAGES”. No one cares and casually switch to playing their Indies on their Tablets and Mobiles!! Wha ha ha! ????
Harvey P. Cheesewinkle
July 24, 2013 at 20:04
Wasn’t Microsoft and most games sites (including this one), very quick to point out the difference between units shipped and units actually sold? Just sayin…hey pot, here’s a kettle.
iPrimal
July 24, 2013 at 20:50
I’ve been let down my ms too many times. SONY is my new home.
RinceWind
July 24, 2013 at 23:26
Sadly, I feel the same way. I was so excited before the E3 launch. Now I am not…
iPrimal
July 25, 2013 at 01:02
My issue isn’t just the public knowledge. It’s the fact that after i spent hundreds of dollars on dlc alone, they decide to ban my gamertag, and make all of that dlc un-accessible.
Also the fact that, in the u.s. anyway, they introduced party watching on netflix, then took it away.
Spathi
July 25, 2013 at 08:16
This and the fact that they abandoned their current console exclusive wise so early, in my humble opinion.
Holy Louis
July 28, 2013 at 06:17
To me as a gamer, exclusives line up and console performance are the things that decide which console is better, not the economic things and policies but of course xbox drm plan before was shit as fuck but still exclusives line up and performance are the one that matters if you are a gamer, screw all the other shit