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PlayStation 4 Neo: Is a mid-generation console hardware refresh a good idea?

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The new, higher-specced PlayStation 4 is almost a dead certainty. Likely to be revealed at E3 this year, the new system – apparently dubbed Neo – will sport a faster CPU, a beefier GPU and be able to output better visuals, and run games at higher frame rates. Eurogamer’s Digital Foundry has a typically excellent technical breakdown of the PlayStation 4 Neo and what it contains – and it seems the spec bump is significant.

According to them, here’s the increase you can expect:

Base PS4 PS4K Neo Boost
CPU Eight Jaguar cores clocked at 1.6GHz Eight Jaguar cores clocked at 2.1GHz 1.3x
GPU 18 Radeon GCN compute units at 800MHz 36 ‘improved’ GCN compute units at 911MHz 2.3x FLOPs
Memory 8GB GDDR5 at 176GB/s 8GB GDDR5 at 218GB/s 24% more bandwidth, 512MB more useable memory

The jump in graphics prowess is the most exciting bit, indeed – as it won’t be based around something available on the shelf right now. While the machine likely won’t be able to run games at 4K, it will be able to upscale to that resolution very nicely, running games at 1080p and 60fps with relative ease.

The trouble here is that developers are restricted from using the new power to give games better features; games have to play the same – just with graphical upgrades or faster frames. The need for compatibility with the base or older PS4 model, which definitely puts a ceiling on what developers are able to do with the system.

Right now, it seems like it’s really just more of a headache for developers than it is a boon.

According to Eurogamer (whose full report you really should read), we could even see the PlayStation 4 Neo and games utilising it towards the end of this year.

And honestly, I still don’t know how I feel about this. On the one hand, the prospect of smoother, shiner gameplay experiences on a console sounds quite nice – but it on the other it just flies in the face of what consoles are about. They’re meant to be set hardware without upgrade paths. It also feels like a slap in the face to those who’ve spent a fair bit of money on their consoles, especially if there’s no trade-in program available.

What do you think? Is a mid-generational refresh a smart idea?

Last Updated: April 20, 2016

192 Comments

  1. Pariah

    April 20, 2016 at 11:37

    I think the slim option was always a good idea – but this seems a bit much. The hardware upgrades are significant enough to actually cause issues.

    Reply

    • Greylingad[CNFRMD]

      April 20, 2016 at 11:39

      Exactly!! This now in turn literally just turns into another PC platform, which by the way, we now use to stream Netflix more than actually play games…

      Reply

  2. Alien Emperor Trevor

    April 20, 2016 at 11:39

    Take your medicine. They were all under-powered from the start to be able to deliver on the “every game at 1080p & 60fps” promises on a regular basis without compromising. Do you want what was promised or do you want to settle?

    Reply

    • RinceThis

      April 20, 2016 at 11:44

      You settle down!

      Reply

      • Alien Emperor Trevor

        April 20, 2016 at 11:48

        It’s time for you to settle up… IN BLOOD!

        Wait, what? Where’d that come from? O_O

        Reply

        • RinceThis

          April 20, 2016 at 11:53

          Wowza!

          Reply

          • Ottokie

            April 20, 2016 at 11:57

            I for one welcome our new Robot overlords.

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            April 20, 2016 at 11:58

            BVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV

    • Hammersteyn_hates_Raid0

      April 20, 2016 at 11:44

    • Captain JJ vs ..............

      April 20, 2016 at 12:14

      We have you.

      Reply

  3. HairyEwok

    April 20, 2016 at 11:40

    For Sony, YES!.. For the consumers wallet, NO!

    Reply

  4. konfab

    April 20, 2016 at 11:41

    I think it is actually quite a good idea. The people with money can get a new one and sell their old one to the people who don’t.

    Reply

  5. Hammersteyn_hates_Raid0

    April 20, 2016 at 11:42

    Maybe if Sony revealed where they’re going with this it would make more sense

    Reply

    • RinceThis

      April 20, 2016 at 11:45

      Well they’ll be going for another update in another year.

      Reply

      • Hammersteyn_hates_Raid0

        April 20, 2016 at 11:45

        Guess we’ll see later in the year

        Reply

    • Alien Emperor Trevor

      April 20, 2016 at 11:47

      It’s so you can play the new Tomb Raider. trollolol

      Reply

      • Hammersteyn_hates_Raid0

        April 20, 2016 at 11:47

        hahaha

        Reply

      • RinceThis

        April 20, 2016 at 11:47

        hahahahaha

        Reply

      • DrKiller

        April 20, 2016 at 12:38

        hahahahaha

        Reply

    • HairyEwok

      April 20, 2016 at 11:56

      Isn’t it obvious? They’re going to the bank.

      Reply

      • Hammersteyn_hates_Raid0

        April 20, 2016 at 12:13

        XD

        Reply

  6. RinceThis

    April 20, 2016 at 11:44

    Bloody stupid idea.

    Reply

    • Hammersteyn_hates_Raid0

      April 20, 2016 at 11:45

      Just like suntanning

      Reply

      • RinceThis

        April 20, 2016 at 11:45

        For gingers…

        Reply

        • Hammersteyn_hates_Raid0

          April 20, 2016 at 11:46

          I’m not a fan either

          Reply

      • Captain JJ vs ..............

        April 20, 2016 at 12:15

        Yea. I’m with you there.

        Reply

        • Hammersteyn_hates_Raid0

          April 20, 2016 at 12:17

          I dunno why Rince has to make it a race thing 😛

          Reply

          • Captain JJ vs ..............

            April 20, 2016 at 12:17

            It’s like it’s all he sees. 😀

  7. Greylingad[CNFRMD]

    April 20, 2016 at 11:54

    • Captain JJ vs ..............

      April 20, 2016 at 12:16

      Pot calling the kettle black! Boom!

      Reply

      • Greylingad[CNFRMD]

        April 20, 2016 at 12:39

        Hehehehehehehehehe….

        Reply

  8. Ryanza

    April 20, 2016 at 11:54

    It’s not mid generation. Just because the last gen lasted 8 years doesn’t make it the norm.
    This is year number 4. New consoles should be coming out this year. Now we getting a lacklustre console upgrade for the next 4 years.

    This is some serious bullshit. 2020 and gaming will still be stuck in 2012. It’s 2016 and games are stuck in 2012. 4 more years of this shit.

    We need to stop supporting DRM and get back to supporting PC gaming. That is the only way video games will advance with technology.

    Don’t Support DRM. Cyberpunk 2077 console port is coming to PC.

    Reply

    • James Anderton

      April 20, 2016 at 12:16

      It hasn’t even been 3 years. PS4 and XBone were released end of 2013. Good to know I can take your opinion seriously when you can’t event count years correctly.

      Reply

      • Ryanza

        April 20, 2016 at 12:20

        oh only 3 years. fuck. i guess it’s now ok for this ps4 upgrade and all the pc shitty ports and 8 year console cycle and drm. it’s all good now seeing as my point came down to a number.

        Reply

        • Hammersteyn_hates_Raid0

          April 20, 2016 at 12:22

          Maybe the 4 in PS4 stands for 4 years…. They almost made it

          Reply

          • Ryanza

            April 20, 2016 at 12:24

            no the 4 means i need to find a different gaming news site.

          • Captain JJ vs ..............

            April 20, 2016 at 12:26

            Maths!

          • Ryanza

            April 20, 2016 at 12:28

            1-1=drm

          • Kromas untamed

            April 20, 2016 at 13:25

            Half Life 3 confirmed!

            Or rather

            Support Steam Half life 3 is coming!

          • Admiral Chief in New York

            April 20, 2016 at 13:34

            YES!

          • Ryanza

            April 20, 2016 at 13:35

            yes half life 3 will be a product with zero value.

          • Captain JJ vs ..............

            April 20, 2016 at 13:40

            You are just a ray of sunshine.

          • Ryanza

            April 20, 2016 at 14:00

            it’s the truth. half life 3 as a drm product will worthless. it’s shit you don’t want to hear but it’s shit you needs to represented.

          • James Anderton

            April 20, 2016 at 12:24

            xD

        • Vernon Jonker

          April 20, 2016 at 14:02

          hahaha damn dude relax its just games

          Reply

          • Ryanza

            April 20, 2016 at 14:04

            oh i used a swear word so people must tell me to relax.

    • Ryanza

      April 20, 2016 at 13:58

      no don’t delete messages. the way i get spoken too should be represented on here. insulting ryanza gets a lot of likes here even from people who ryanza don’t know nor speaking too.

      Reply

      • James Anderton

        April 20, 2016 at 16:14

        I like how you describe yourself in the third-person. Do you know who else does that?

        Toddlers

        Reply

        • Ryanza

          April 20, 2016 at 16:44

          oh shame look at you now. name calling. lol.

          Reply

    • Darren Peach

      April 20, 2016 at 15:53

      You could always just game on the PC. What do you think you are missing out on exactly ? DRM became a serious headache on PC first dude. I explained to you that DRM actually serves to protect IP. Intellectual Property. Google it. Games are advancing at a rate. I can assure you that this advance that you think is being withheld is not as great as you may believe. I understand 3D pretty well, Game engines use a great many cheats to emulate things that you may believe to be ground breaking. The most substantial change I have seen from a gpu processing standpoint is adaptive tasselation. All the rest is only improvements on existing tech. You can thank consoles for the mainstream acceptance of gaming and by virtue of this fact, a quicker advance in graphic fidelty.

      Reply

      • Ryanza

        April 20, 2016 at 16:05

        listen and try to fucking understand…

        Reply

        • Ryanza

          April 20, 2016 at 16:05

          • Darren Peach

            April 20, 2016 at 16:51

            Holy Christ, You are stupid. It takes teams of hundreds of people to develope a game. Hundreds and possibly thousands by the time a game is distributed globally. How does this strategy serve to feed all those people ? Send their kids to school, pay the electricity etc etc. It would take a paradigm shift in the way the world runs to accommodate your little fantasy. Grow up sunshine.

          • Ryanza

            April 20, 2016 at 16:56

            drm has nothing to do with anything you have brought up. but yeah keep your insults going and keep believing i am what ever you say i am.

          • Darren Peach

            April 21, 2016 at 08:53

            Actually, I am thinking about the bigger picture. You post irrational things about your hatred of DRM and how PS4 is holding innovation back etc etc. What is your point ? Explain what gives you so much grief . Is it the way the Game Industry has become a bloated profit driven behemoth or do you feel games aren’t up to scratch. The only thing you seem to endorse is The Witcher 3. If you were a little clearer in your explanation of what you hate so much, I could probably relate. But, It is what it is.

        • Darren Peach

          April 20, 2016 at 16:24

          So, this is the premise of your argument ? This is a long term strategy that pertains to his individual circumstance. But I say the merrit of this works in his case as it serves to open up new markets for him. Given how global gaming is and the very short relative cycle of new releases, Game developers lose money when a whole generation of tweens pirate their products. How many studios have closed their doors ? Software companies have it worse. In all my years as a professional I have yet to find a company that does not have illegal software running in some capacity. The point is that while there is merrit in this idea, someone is always been shafted and this simply is not practical in todays business environment.

          Reply

          • Darren Peach

            April 20, 2016 at 16:28

            Oh yeah, I do fucking understand. I am not a selfish prick that expects handouts because Neil Gaiman thinks I should, The world certainly doesn’t work this way.

          • Ryanza

            April 20, 2016 at 16:59

            doesn’t seem like you understand.

        • Darren Peach

          April 20, 2016 at 16:32

          And your beloved PC hardware only exists because people pay for it. Idiot.

          Reply

          • Ryanza

            April 20, 2016 at 16:48

            your hate for ryanza has clouded your mind. shame.

            Do you think i follow your name around. if you ask me who darren peach is i wouldn’t know. what has darren peach said in the past, i wouldn’t know because i don’t care. but thanks for the support.

          • Darren Peach

            April 20, 2016 at 16:52

            A pleasure mate

  9. BakedBagel

    April 20, 2016 at 11:55

    Topkek

    Carry on buying consoles.

    As a PC player im uncontrollably keking at this :3

    Reply

  10. Gareth Lagesse (eXCheez)

    April 20, 2016 at 11:59

    This idea is as bad as the artwork for the Rugby Challenge 3 banners all over your site. 🙁

    Reply

  11. Kromas untamed

    April 20, 2016 at 12:02

    Sony: New console
    MS: Cloud computing

    PC: Lol.

    Reply

    • Alien Emperor Trevor

      April 20, 2016 at 12:02

      PC: How about both? 😀

      Reply

      • Ryanza

        April 20, 2016 at 12:07

        PC: How about DRM and shitty console ports. No value game and and shitty ports.

        Reply

        • Alien Emperor Trevor

          April 20, 2016 at 12:09

          Doesn’t sound very appealing to me, but if that’s what you prefer.

          Reply

          • Hammersteyn_hates_Raid0

            April 20, 2016 at 12:10

            hahahahaha

          • Ryanza

            April 20, 2016 at 12:12

            No, do not put your own preferences on others.

          • Captain JJ vs ..............

            April 20, 2016 at 12:19

            XD

        • Kromas untamed

          April 20, 2016 at 12:10

          And here I am still fighting to get my non DRM Witcher moved over to Steam and trying to get a console port for The Last of Us. 🙂

          Reply

          • Ryanza

            April 20, 2016 at 12:14

            add .exe to steam buy the game again, steam specials. And no not all ports are exclusive games.

          • Kromas untamed

            April 20, 2016 at 12:17

            Adding exe to steam won’t make the game properly update. I ain’t buying a game again that cost me R3000. And some ports were actually better on PC (Mass Effect).

          • Captain JJ vs ..............

            April 20, 2016 at 12:20

            Ooohkay, I didn’t know you bought THAT Witcher 3. Yea. Uhm. I’ve got nothing.

          • Ryanza

            April 20, 2016 at 12:37

            you fully knew that the witcher 3 at retail did not come with drm. Steam is digital drm. the witcher 3 retail and steam are two different versions.
            You want steam drm you should have bought it on steam. i wanted no drm so i bought it at retail.
            i am happy that i bought the witcher 3 at retail.

            two products of the same game meant for two different types of gamers.

          • Captain JJ vs ..............

            April 20, 2016 at 12:40

            The guys at BT told me it has a Steam key. So I blame BT.

          • Ryanza

            April 20, 2016 at 12:42

            if you shopping for games at bt games then you should know what disappointment is. Every single time i want to make use of bt games i am disappointed. but you can’t really blame them when every single fucking pc game comes out with drm and then a game comes along with no drm at retail.

          • Captain JJ vs ..............

            April 20, 2016 at 12:44

            You said: “two products of the same game meant for two different types of gamers.”

            I bought Witcher on Steam and the got the physical copy, so I’m a hybrid! Mwahaha.
            I am the evolved gamer!

          • Ryanza

            April 20, 2016 at 12:47

            standard edition of the witcher 3 at retail came with a drm code for gog.com for the price of one. evolved.

          • Captain JJ vs ..............

            April 20, 2016 at 12:51

            Always nice to know that regardless of everything you still have a sense of humour.

          • Ryanza

            April 20, 2016 at 12:56

            regardless of everything? what is everything?

          • Kromas untamed

            April 20, 2016 at 13:24

            So then CDPR hates people who buy Collectors editions. We pay more but can’t pre-load and are forced to use their system.

          • Ryanza

            April 20, 2016 at 13:34

            the witcher 3 pc can be played on any capable computer not forced to use their system. On top of that, you get a code to use their digital system.
            if you have a computer that meets requirements, you can play the game.

            if you wanted steam so badly then you should have bought the game on steam because that was also an option. you could even buy the game on origin, uplay, xbox live, psn.

            but it sounds like you would be happy if all pc video games are limited to steam only. from any capable computer to only computers connected to the internet and connected to steam.

            so cutting off millions of gamers from buying and playing the witcher 3 just to make you happy about buying the collectors edition and drm ing it to steam.

          • Kromas untamed

            April 20, 2016 at 13:36

            Twisting my words I see. I would have been happy if they gave you the option of Steam or their crappy system for their most expensive flavour of the game.

          • Ryanza

            April 20, 2016 at 13:45

            Steam is not CDP. gog is CDP.

            witcher 3 pc – open to play on any pc if the pc can handle it.
            witcher 3 digital code – free digital game.
            and you want another free steam code which they have to pay for and make the retail product more expensive. remember how well the witcher 3 was priced, pc and console games.

            anyway. you knew before buying the collectors edition there was no steam code in there. But you bought it anyway. Not to the fault of CDPR but to your own.

            the way the witcher 3 was released, all pc games should be released like that. and you steam people need not shit all over it just because it’s not steam.

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            April 20, 2016 at 13:41

            True story. Had to activate CE on GOG. DRM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • Kromas untamed

            April 20, 2016 at 13:21

            Yeah but i did not know how completely stupid GoG galaxy was going to be. It is worse than Uplay.

          • Captain JJ vs ..............

            April 20, 2016 at 12:20

            Just buy another Witcher 3, it’s easier.

        • Darren Peach

          April 20, 2016 at 15:59

          Just like to point out that you are insulting console gamers by proxy.

          Reply

  12. HairyEwok

    April 20, 2016 at 12:05

    At least with a PC you can take out the one component that needs upgrade, not buy the whole system over again XD

    Reply

    • Kromas untamed

      April 20, 2016 at 12:12

      SSSHHHHHHHHHHH …. Nintendo might hear you and also steal a 30 year old PC innovation!

      Reply

    • Hammersteyn_hates_Raid0

      April 20, 2016 at 12:12

      I know right, why are the peasants so stupid?

      Reply

    • James Anderton

      April 20, 2016 at 12:30

      Dude, modular consoles. Genius idea. We’ll make mill….. oh wait. Those already exist.

      They’re called PCs.

      Reply

      • Victor Moolman

        April 20, 2016 at 12:32

        The only problem is that PC’s aren’t idiot proof….
        Consoles are at least idiot resistant.
        Nothing is ever idiot proof is it?

        Reply

        • Hammersteyn_hates_Raid0

          April 20, 2016 at 12:33

          Not even governments. Which is scary AF

          Reply

          • Captain JJ vs ..............

            April 20, 2016 at 12:34

            Well our Government recruits from the bottom up, clearly.

          • Hammersteyn_hates_Raid0

            April 20, 2016 at 12:40

            They need to pull their heads out from that bottom

      • Captain JJ vs ..............

        April 20, 2016 at 12:32

        hehe

        Reply

    • DrKiller

      April 20, 2016 at 12:40

      Ever tried upgrading your CPU? Its much more than “take out one component”

      Reply

      • Captain JJ vs ..............

        April 20, 2016 at 12:41

        CPU is fine, motherboard is a b!tch

        Reply

        • DrKiller

          April 20, 2016 at 12:42

          Upgrading your CPU most likely result in upgrading pretty much everything else, especially motherboard 🙂

          Reply

          • Captain JJ vs ..............

            April 20, 2016 at 12:43

            Sadly yes.

          • Hammersteyn_hates_Raid0

            April 20, 2016 at 12:44

            Don’t you dare insinuate something negative about the Mustard Race, they have 4K pitchforks

          • Captain JJ vs ..............

            April 20, 2016 at 12:45

            Even Aqua man’s “pitchfork” had only three spikes!

          • Hammersteyn_hates_Raid0

            April 20, 2016 at 12:46

            He doesn’t need to overcompensate

          • Captain JJ vs ..............

            April 20, 2016 at 12:49

            If you had to see my pc box “undercompensate” would be too weak a word.
            It’s really old.

          • Greylingad[CNFRMD]

            April 20, 2016 at 12:51

            Years ago I had to mod an old case to fit a GFX card, needles to say the card stuck out the front of the box… Extra air cooled, until naturally we had a braai and a friend spilt beer all over it…

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            April 20, 2016 at 12:53

            I had the same problem when upgrading my last PC’s GFX card heh. Had to cut a lip cut off the drive cage so the card would fit.

          • Greylingad[CNFRMD]

            April 20, 2016 at 12:56

            I have a GTX 580 with that exact issue still, the irony is that the part that pushes against the bloody drive cage is a piece of anodized aluminium, there is no porpuse for it, other than to circulate the air over the dual piping heatsink…stupid bloody design, to top it off, the card is three bloody slots wide!

          • Captain JJ vs ..............

            April 20, 2016 at 12:53

            Damn.
            Mine fits at least.
            I just like gaming on a pc because it’s easy, it’s way more personalised, it has Steam and well, it’s affordable.

          • Greylingad[CNFRMD]

            April 20, 2016 at 12:57

            Exactly, you can customise your build to your budget, that is the best reason to buy any gaming platform…

          • Greylingad[CNFRMD]

            April 20, 2016 at 12:46

            WITH ANTI ALIASING! So you don’t see the sharp edges…

      • Hammersteyn_hates_Raid0

        April 20, 2016 at 12:42

        Mine has these shitty wire brackets to keep the fans on the heat sink, after fastening those I feel like I’m a qualified dentist

        Reply

        • Captain JJ vs ..............

          April 20, 2016 at 12:43

          Haha. Last time I upgraded my CPU (very very long ago) it was actually quite easy.

          Reply

        • Greylingad[CNFRMD]

          April 20, 2016 at 12:44

          Fitting any heatsink on a CPU hands you the honourable award of master fitter, you only qualify for the Major award if you can do so without shredding your hand and bleeding over said heatsink…

          Reply

          • Captain JJ vs ..............

            April 20, 2016 at 12:45

            Few have obtained that award.

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            April 20, 2016 at 12:56

            Exactly! Fitting the goddamn fan to the heatsink was the worst part of building my current PC. Everything else was just follow the instructions.

          • Greylingad[CNFRMD]

            April 20, 2016 at 12:59

            Oh, man, I’m glad I’m not the only one struggling with that, luckily, I only do major CPU and MB upgrades every 6 or so years, otherwise I’d have been less an arm or so…

        • Victor Moolman

          April 20, 2016 at 12:48

          I feel your pain, had to install a 10 year old massive block of a CPU cooler to a 1155 Sandybridge…went with the Linus solution Cable ties and prayer

          Reply

          • Hammersteyn_hates_Raid0

            April 20, 2016 at 12:55

            Cable ties FTW

          • Captain JJ vs ..............

            April 20, 2016 at 12:56

            I once helped a friend of mine fix a Merc with cable ties.
            Cable ties fixes everything, and are handy to keep your victi….enemies tied up.

          • Victor Moolman

            April 20, 2016 at 13:27

            uhm … what’s that last one?

          • Captain JJ vs ..............

            April 20, 2016 at 13:41

            XD

          • Kromas untamed

            April 20, 2016 at 13:28

            Duct tape works better.

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            April 20, 2016 at 13:43

            When you say Merc do you mean the car, or a mercenary?

          • Captain JJ vs ..............

            April 20, 2016 at 13:47

            The car.
            Mercenaries tend to put up too much of a fight if you try and “fix” them. 😀

          • Greylingad[CNFRMD]

            April 20, 2016 at 13:01

            “Oh gods of intel, spare me my fingers and appendages while I fasten this last snap on clip, I pray to thee to heighten my pain threshold…”

        • Alien Emperor Trevor

          April 20, 2016 at 12:55

          I gave up with those & used some rubber mounts instead.

          Reply

          • Hammersteyn_hates_Raid0

            April 20, 2016 at 12:56

            I couldn’t find any in time, the pharmacy was closed.

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            April 20, 2016 at 12:59

            My favourite part was… according to the instruction booklet the holes on the fan are meant to align perfectly with the heatsink. They don’t. And I couldn’t figure out how the damn wires work. So I just ended up bending the hell out of the rubber mounts. Oh well, it works. 😀

          • Hammersteyn_hates_Raid0

            April 20, 2016 at 13:03

            XD

          • Greylingad[CNFRMD]

            April 20, 2016 at 13:02

            HAHAHAHA!! No excuses, the Engen garages sell them too now!

      • Greylingad[CNFRMD]

        April 20, 2016 at 12:42

        When I had a Q 8 something something and some such, the Q9550 went in much easier, only had to use the hammer twice…

        Reply

        • Hammersteyn_hates_Raid0

          April 20, 2016 at 12:42

          XD

          Reply

      • HairyEwok

        April 20, 2016 at 12:43

        They’re changing the socket now so you can plop cpu from next gen upwards on the same mobo, just remember that.

        Reply

  13. James Anderton

    April 20, 2016 at 12:08

  14. Her Highness the Hipster

    April 20, 2016 at 12:13

    UGH! as much as I’d love an upgraded PS4 that runs games easily and has more storage, this runs against the very idea of console gaming for me. I can only imagine the headache it will cause developers. 🙁

    Reply

  15. Captain JJ vs ..............

    April 20, 2016 at 12:14

    I can’t believe the “new” consoles are mid-gen already.
    And here I still sit with my mid-previous-gen PC.

    Reply

  16. Victor Moolman

    April 20, 2016 at 12:17

    Does this remind anyone of just a MB upgrade that allows for faster clocks. I saw the same kind of performance jump going from my old Asus MB to my new Gigabyte MB. Sure the CPU, RAM and GPU were the same but the Gigabyte MB allowed me to more readily overclock because it was stable…

    I want everyone to throw their shit against the wall about this. If Sony wants to do a upgrade at least do it properly though it might prompt some other *cough* Microsoft *cough* to pull their finger out their ass and choose either PC or Console. Hopefully paving the way for proper development of games on one because I WANT MY FABLE!!!

    Reply

    • Hammersteyn_hates_Raid0

      April 20, 2016 at 12:19

      I would toss shit but I don’t own a XBOX 😛
      *Runs

      Reply

      • Captain JJ vs ..............

        April 20, 2016 at 12:21

        LOL

        Reply

        • Victor Moolman

          April 20, 2016 at 12:22

          o_o just be careful not to step in some of it then…

          Reply

          • Captain JJ vs ..............

            April 20, 2016 at 12:23

            😀

          • Hammersteyn_hates_Raid0

            April 20, 2016 at 12:23

            Especially barefoot, those plastic pieces can slice through skin

          • Captain JJ vs ..............

            April 20, 2016 at 12:24

            Sharper than it’s graphics. Which could lie anywhere between a spoon and a katana.

          • Hammersteyn_hates_Raid0

            April 20, 2016 at 12:30

            Hmmmmmmmm rusty spoons

  17. James Anderton

    April 20, 2016 at 12:19

    “While the machine likely won’t be able to run games at 4K, it will be able to upscale to that resolution very nicely, running games at 1080p and 60fps with relative ease.”

    Wasn’t that the original selling point for these consoles 3 YEARS AGO.

    What a joke.

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    • Captain JJ vs ..............

      April 20, 2016 at 12:22

      This has iPhone sales tactics and execution written all over it.

      Reply

      • James Anderton

        April 20, 2016 at 12:24

        That was my initial thought when I heard this a few weeks back.

        Incremental, planned obsolescence bullshit that the mobile phone industry pulls year after year.

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      • Hammersteyn_hates_Raid0

        April 20, 2016 at 12:25

        Cracked it
        PS4 NEO = 4 PEONS
        GG Sony, GG

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        • Captain JJ vs ..............

          April 20, 2016 at 12:25

          XD

          Reply

  18. Original Heretic

    April 20, 2016 at 12:27

    As someone who has had his PS4 for less than a year, I feel very cheated by this. Yes, right now they will enforce that the games still be playable on the older consoles, but for how much longer will that last? Pretty soon, you’ll need a new console to play the games released.

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    • Hammersteyn_hates_Raid0

      April 20, 2016 at 12:28

      • Captain JJ vs ..............

        April 20, 2016 at 12:29

        Or….TIMED exclusive.

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        • Hammersteyn_hates_Raid0

          April 20, 2016 at 12:30

          Even that yes

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          • Captain JJ vs ..............

            April 20, 2016 at 12:31

            I actually hate timed exclusives more than normal exclusives. I can deal with Forza only being on Xbox. But putting Tomb Raider on one platform first is just shitty. By the time the rest of us got it, it was old news and frankly I’ll buy it when it’s sub R70, because they were assholes.

          • Hammersteyn_hates_Raid0

            April 20, 2016 at 12:32

            Same here, though it will never reach as low a price on console, but I’ll wait till my damn backlog is cleared before I glance towards that.

    • HairyEwok

      April 20, 2016 at 12:30

      Exclusive to PS4 NEO!

      Reply

  19. konfab

    April 20, 2016 at 12:34

    The kicker will be the price. It will probably cost more than an ordinary PS4.

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    • James Anderton

      April 20, 2016 at 12:37

      $400 dollars is the amount being reported on, which was the same price of the PS4 at launch, which makes sense.

      Reply

  20. DrKiller

    April 20, 2016 at 12:41

    Wonder what the cost will be of this

    Reply

  21. Raptor Rants

    April 20, 2016 at 12:58

    The idea is absurd. It takes the whole point of console gaming and trashes it.
    If you want the upgrade path use a PC. If you want a standardised system use a console. That’s that it always was. Not any more.

    Not only is it defeating the purpose of consoles as a platform of choice, it completely destroys the faith of the user base. They were expecting a system that would last 6+ years and now suddenly their consoles become obsolete. Yes devs will have a ceiling limit. You know what that means? Devs are going to make dgames to run on the base PS4 and simply ensure the new PS4.5 (PS5) runs it too. They aren’t going to add in anything extra or show extra love to the PS5 because they must make sure the game is going to run on the 4. Do they honestly think devs are going to shove extra dev time in to a system of already broken, unoptimised games where devs barely meet demands and time constraints now? Please.

    So you have a completely redundant console that is going to fail out the gate.

    Watch. Mark my words, devs and Sony will use the failed PS4.5 as “proof” that gamers don’t want stronger hardware and continue to deliver lackluster products because they’ll see it as “It’s what the consumer wants” and not “Hey we screwed the consumers who bought PS4’s and now they can’t buy a new one because they don’t feel it’s fair to have to updgrade to enjoy games”

    Yes the PS4 is underpowered. Yes the new one seems to be looking at fixing that. But they should have stuck out the life time cycle and then released a proper PS5 with proper performance when the time came. They should have learned from their mistake and released something amazing at the next proper refresh point.

    Now instead they throw mud on the userbase, give it a cheap marketting gimmick and try cover their tracks by forcing devs to to not make games to push the new hardware.

    Oh speaking of, they’ll also use that as a way to say “See, the improvements on the PS4.5 (5) are so big yet the difference in gaming is negligable. That’s why the PS4 was stated as such a good console because it was already powerful enough” BULL. They put a ceiling on what may done and that’s why this console will never see itself be used to its next full potential.

    Pathetic and sad. At least MS with the Xbone admited they screwed the pooch and have systematically been making changes to their CURRENT units to fix the damage they did.

    This…. This just stinks of money grabbing and a way to force people to buy yet ANOTHER PS4 way before its lifespan was finished.

    Oh… Also. Called it. I said that the console lifespan would be reduced to far below expecttations because of the crappy hardware of the base unit and now my words have come true.

    Stuff it. I’ll stick to my PC where I know my lifespan can change more drastically due to tech advancement. At least there I know what I’m in for.

    /rant

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    • Alien Emperor Trevor

      April 20, 2016 at 13:02

      tl;dr

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      • Alien Emperor Trevor

        April 20, 2016 at 13:02

        *goes to read*

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    • Greylingad[CNFRMD]

      April 20, 2016 at 13:03

      holy bliksemstraal with sparks…

      Reply

      • Raptor Rants

        April 20, 2016 at 13:05

        • Greylingad[CNFRMD]

          April 20, 2016 at 13:06

          HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! YES!!!!

          Reply

          • Raptor Rants

            April 20, 2016 at 13:07

            I think from now on if I rant I should preceed the comment with that pic

          • Greylingad[CNFRMD]

            April 20, 2016 at 13:10

            HAHAHA!!! Man, the hand of Zeus wielding the truth! But everything you’ve said is true, that’s exactly what I had in mind too, it’s complete bullshit on a silver plate that now they decide to upgrade it, most likely, because “VR bandwagon” and it simply is an excuse for everything else that falls short…

          • Raptor Rants

            April 20, 2016 at 13:13

            Ooooh shiz. I should have included that in the rant! It’s for VR to ensure they can allow extra CPU and GPU time for VR. They realised their units would never meet the VR spec and needed to do an emergency upgrade.

        • Hammersteyn_hates_Raid0

          April 20, 2016 at 13:06

          dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun Flash! Ahaaa!

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    • Hammersteyn_hates_Raid0

      April 20, 2016 at 13:04

      *sniff* it’s been too long since your last rant, pure poetry.

      Reply

    • Admiral Chief in New York

      April 20, 2016 at 13:10

      I wanna tl;dr, but it was too good to read

      Reply

    • Admiral Chief in New York

      April 20, 2016 at 13:23

      …so many spelling mistakes….

      And what is it with the addition of all the extra D’s? Trying to bribe for comment of the week?

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      • Raptor Rants

        April 20, 2016 at 13:25

        Lol sorry. If there had been music playing it would have turned in to a furious typing music montage like in the movies.

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        • Captain JJ vs ..............

          April 20, 2016 at 13:39

          Well done sir. I salute you.

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      • Captain JJ vs ..............

        April 20, 2016 at 13:39

        Who cares?
        The man makes a good point.

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        • Admiral Chief in New York

          April 20, 2016 at 14:24

          Never said the point wasn’t good

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    • Captain JJ vs ..............

      April 20, 2016 at 13:48

      Remember when they said pc’s are a dying platform?
      Such lolz

      Reply

      • Raptor Rants

        April 20, 2016 at 13:55

        Indeed. Now consoles are turning in to PC’s. All anyone has to do is add modular to the things and it will be over

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    • Darren Peach

      April 20, 2016 at 16:06

      Hey man, Just go with the flow bro. What if the universe is really a inter-dimensional fibre optic quantum core network and we are all just ones and zeroes……bro !

      Reply

  22. Jac7

    April 20, 2016 at 13:12

    Couldn’t care less. Apple launches a new iPhone every second day and nobody cares. As long as they take care of all their customers I’m chilled.

    Reply

  23. Avithar

    April 20, 2016 at 13:21

    i fore see alot of these “new ps4 neo” going up in smoke after a few long nights of hardcore gaming…

    Reply

  24. Vernon Jonker

    April 20, 2016 at 13:58

    anyone need a good used ps4 ? drop me message lol for the rest of the world this is cool but for us its hey babe ons eet pap en wors vir die week hahahaha

    Reply

  25. HisDivineOrder

    April 20, 2016 at 14:10

    PC gaming is now officially cheaper than console gaming. Sony is trying to tell console gamers something. $60 per year, $400 purchases every 3 years, pay more for games…

    PC gaming. It’s where the value is.

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  26. Decembermaloy

    April 20, 2016 at 14:23

    Sony forgot what Sega tried to do with the 32X. It’s not a good idea to split your user base like this.

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  27. Darren Peach

    April 20, 2016 at 15:56

    I’ll buy it. Why not ? It’s something of a novelty.

    Reply

  28. Saitamago

    April 20, 2016 at 17:26

    It is good? Who knows. All I know is that I’m probably going to buy it because of OCD or something.

    Reply

  29. Strawman Jim

    April 22, 2016 at 12:35

    Wait Colin Moriarty still writes shit? Hahahah what a tard biscuit. He’s like a less retarded version of Ben Kuchera (10% less retarded, but still pretty retarded).

    Reply

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