Bungie denies that Destiny pay-to-loot micro-transactions are on the way

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UPDATE: Taken King creative director has just tweeted that there are no plans in place right now to boost King’s Fall Raids with consumables that will increase loot drop-rates.

Original story follows below.

Micro-transactions in video games are like a small itch on your back. You can’t quite reach it, it smells funky and scratching it/throwing coins only results in a temporary relief. Just about every game on the shelves these days (especially from high-profile studios and publishers) has some form of micro-transactions.

And when you’re spending close to a R1000 (Or $60/£60 for our US and UK pals), that’s actually not just depressing. It’s kind of disgusting. Destiny is no stranger to all of this, having introduced micro-transactions yesterday to that game world. Now admittedly, these real-world money items are purely cosmetic fluff.

They’re emotes, stuff that you don’t actually need and yes I actually bought two of them last night because I’m clearly an idiot who wants the ability to accurately emote my impressive loss-streaks in the Crucible.

But here’s the thing: More micro-transactions are on the way. And they’re giving me the pay-to-loot heebie jeebies. Over on the Bungie forums, some data-mining revealed more consumables that players can choose to purchase soon from the Eververse trading company:

  • Heuristic Light – Buy additional moldering shards during the King’s Fall Raid
  • Indomitable Light – Buy more likelihood for armor and weapon drops during a normal mode King’s Fall raid
  • Valorous Light – Buy more likelihood for armor and weapon drops during a hard mode King’s Fall raid
  • Hunter Level 25 Starter Pack – Buy level 25 instantly, fully level any subclass instantly, and receive several telemetries to gain XP quicker
  • Warlock Level 25 Starter Pack – Buy level 25 instantly, fully level any subclass instantly, and receive several telemetries to gain XP quicker
  • Titan Level 25 Starter Pack – Buy level 25 instantly, fully level any subclass instantly, and receive several telemetries to gain XP quicker
  • Subclass Infusion – Buy a fully leveled subclass instantly (Fully upgrades your currently equipped subclass)
  • Bone Trinkets – Buy Increased XP Gains from The Fallen for 10 minutes
  • Void Shackles – Buy Increased XP Gains from Hive for 10 minutes
  • Spent Displacer – Buy Increased XP Gains from Vex for 10 minutes
  • Campaign Medals – Buy Increased XP Gains from Cabal for 10 minutes
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The majority of those consumables are clearly targeted towards new players, to get them up to speed with the rest of the in-game universe. It’s the King’s Fall content that irks me however. King’s Fall is the hardest Raid in all of Destiny, a true test of skill and teamwork.

Hell, the final part of that Raid involves you having to work with your squad to kill an angry space-god who happens to be bigger than Hulkamania in the 1980s. And the loot drops for completing the mother of all Raids…ain’t that great.

It also completely goes against the core of the game for me. The idea of creating a legend, and earning your way to the top. It’s kind of a slap in the face then.  And not something that I want to see more of in one of my favourite games.

Last Updated: October 14, 2015

Darryn Bonthuys

Something wrong gentlemen? You come here prepared to read the words of a madman, and instead found a lunatic obsessed with comics, Batman and Raul Julia’s M Bison performance in the 1994 Street Fighter movie? Fine! Keep your bio! In fact, now might be a good time to pray to it!

  • Buy a greater chance of random loot drops… what is more likelihood ?

    What if I pay and it doesn’t drop anything, can I ask for a refund?

    The instant level to 25 thing is something I have no issue with to be honest, I want to level a new character but I have absolutely no interest in grinding through the ‘story’ again.

    • Alien Emperor Trevor

      $1 for a 1% increase in likelihood, and you can buy as many as you like. Per random drop of course. 😉

      And no, you can’t ask for a refund because you bought an increased likelihood of a drop, not a guaranteed drop.

      I should apply this to a mobile game, I’d need a front-end loader for all my cash that’s going to come rolling in.

    • Nikola

      Absolute crap Gavin if the raid stuff is true I am never booting this game again.

    • Bagel

      They should work it like the treasure system in dota, shove 10 items into one treasure, pay $2.99 for the treasure, and get a chance to unlock an item + something rare (if you lucky)

      Dunno how good it would work as ive never played destiny.

  • Alien Emperor Trevor

  • Nikola

    OK now I think everybody here knows I LOVE Destiny and all, big groups of us plays it every day. But if this is true especially the better loot drops for the raid I am going to stop playing the game not even joking! The rest of the stuff is fine I mean if you want a boost to level 25 and u don’t want to play the story go ahead but the whole loot drop thing is absolutely disgusting and pisses me off actually. Raid is not easy I must work my ass of and what get fuck all because I dont user real money!

    • Sageville

      You WILL keep coming back regardless….

      • Nikola

        NOT a chance, this goes live I am uninstalling the game immediately sorry it is a clear pay to win bullcrap!!

        • Sageville

          See you in-game tonight…. and every night 😉

          • Nikola

            Damn you Sage…

  • Ir0nseraph

    O great become legend XD buy a fucking legend.

    • Nikola

      Such rubbish dude!

    • Dutch Matrix

      You gonna buy Ron Jeremy? Wow…

  • Francois Knoetze

    well that is going to put me off one of my favourite shooters o.O…

    but hey HALO 5 is on the way!!!

    • Ir0nseraph

      Halo 5 has the same crap, you can earn everything as per destiny but if you give em some more money you can earn stuff faster.
      http://www.gamespot.com/articles/halo-5-microtransaction-pricing-revealed/1100-6431325/

      • Francois Knoetze

        Ok that slipped my mind and now I feel like an ass…but I am a bit over “Destinied” at the moment and need a new shooter for a bit. The Beta impressed me quite a bit and it was solid.

        • Ir0nseraph

          Halo looks great, but destiny killed it for me for a while, but will be getting it some time after release.

  • Hammersteyn

    Destiny is like strolling in a park on the best day of the year and then stepping in the biggest smelliest dog shit in the middle of the park with no tap or water hose in sight and people taking pictures

    • If people took pictures I would go and smear if off on them.

      https://media.giphy.com/media/lXiRD6COxDO7BOKTm/giphy.gif

    • Alien Emperor Trevor

      Waitframe is.. well.. waiting… for you. 😉

      • Hammersteyn

        Yeah, waiting for me to spend MT on it

    • schitsophrenic-toothbrush

      hey dude, for Destiny to work on my ps4 all I need to do is create a static IP for my ps4 and then implement port forwarding? Is there anything else I need to do?

      • Hammersteyn

        enabling DMZ on your router is easier. Also stay away from MWEB as ISP. Using WebAfrica atm and Destiny runs like a dream

        • schitsophrenic-toothbrush

          I know there are security risks to DMZ but I am assuming that if you create a static IP on your ps4 and then enable DMZ to that IP address you can connect your other devices such as laptops etc to the router and have no issues with security?

          Sorry man I am a bit lacking in I.T knowledge

          • Hammersteyn

            No worries. You are correct. The DMZ is for your PS4s static IP only. Yes it is a security risk, but only for that IP address as far as I know

          • schitsophrenic-toothbrush

            Perfect, thanks for the help, much appreciated.

          • Hammersteyn

            heh, I just pass on what I learned. Kinda sucks that one has to go through all this to get a game working

          • Nikola

            What are you talking about Destiny always works 100%

          • Hammersteyn

            Some of us had to config our routers

          • Nikola

            I know we all did I was being sarcastic but obviously you a bit slow today;) Probably busy watching that Destiny raid video!

          • Hammersteyn

            Yes I’m slow, no I’m not watching, yes you’ll have to deal with that tonight 😛

          • Nikola

            You guys really want me to have a hearth attack hey:) hahaha!

          • Sageville

            See, this is why @hammersteyn:disqus is my spirit animal.

          • Hammersteyn

            XD

  • Hammersteyn

    Buy more likelihood? Can you at least give us a number as to what the likelihood is? Or should we guess? Let me take a shot. 0 to go f**k yoursellf? And what’s the likelihood of said armour being above 300?

  • Dutch Matrix

    And people tell me The Sims is a money pit…

  • SmurFyZA

    I completely agree with Darryn. I just got back into Destiny and im slowly making my way up. Reading this just ticks me off

  • Hammersteyn

    You know the best part? And it’s a kicker. I bet my next ticket to Rage that the assholes nerfed the drops in the Raid purposefully so that people feel inclined to spend more cash on MT. I’ve spent more than a R1000 on this game. HOW MUCH MORE DO THEY WANT!?

    • Ir0nseraph

      Everything you have.

      • Dutch Matrix

        And his soul

        • Ir0nseraph

          Well that’s going to be a problem , I think Rince stole it this weekend 😛

          • Hammersteyn

            Noooooo what I just said XD

          • Ir0nseraph

            oops not refreshing fast enough.

          • Dutch Matrix

            When you have a stinky poop and an unexpected guest wants to use the bathroom SECONDS after you…

          • Dutch Matrix

            Must be an echo in this here chatroom.

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            Makes sense, having no soul leaves a hollow space, which allows for echoes.

        • Hammersteyn

          @rincethis:disqus stole it at Rage 😛

      • Hammersteyn

        LOL jokes on them then

  • LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

    • Dutch Matrix

      How much for an add-on character in Street Fighter again? 😛

      • IN SFV? You earn by playing, bra. ;P

        • Hammersteyn

          SOLD!

        • Grand Admiral Chief

          That is how you learn to unlock a bra, you play with it. You just need a willing ladyfriend to be patient. I know that is how I learned

        • Dutch Matrix

          Riiiiggghhhhttttt…. Look, if that is the case, I will personally apologize. But dem micro-transactions are a mighty carrot for greedy corporate type people…

    • Hammersteyn

      Yeah it is funny in retrospect

    • Grand Admiral Chief

      ALL THE UPVOTES

  • Greylingad[CNFRMD]

    We all knew this was coming, right? Not a case of if, but when…

    • Ir0nseraph

      Yes but it’s one of those times were I didn’t want to admit it, just hope for the best.

      • Greylingad[CNFRMD]

        The biggest problem with MTs, is that it’s the new business model, companies no longer believe in producing quality goods, they rather go for the quality of service option, it allows them to flourish when they supply “wanted” goods that they exclude from the “final” product, it’s a method of sustainability through multiple minor purchases on an already load-bearing market… and it’s not good…

  • Bolsterman

    I love playing Destiny, and have willingly paid for and bought all the expansion packs. I love the social nature of the game, and nothing beats running the raids with a good team of other gamers. I love dishing out @ss whippings on the crucible, or having mine handed to me on occasions. But this concept they introducing – while fine for now as its merely cosmetic and doesn’t impact on the game – I don’t love as I suspected it was far more sinister for the future plans, and this article proves it. This will drive me away from the game as it impacts on the balance and economy of the game. Especially in the Crucible.

  • schitsophrenic-toothbrush

    Lank bleak man, ordered Destiny the taken king last week and now I read all this bullsh1t about micro-transactions. What a load of sh1t. Is EA involved?

  • Decembermaloy

    Darryn, the link you posted has been closed. Fuck this shit, I’m out. To Quote Boyz II Men, “Although we’ve come to the end of the roadStill I can’t let you go
    It’s unnatural, you belong to me, I belong to you
    Come to the end of the road
    Still I can’t let you go
    It’s unnatural, you belong to me, I belong to you”

  • Waynster_ZA

    Dunno what all the fuss is about. It is because of these micro transactions that we will be getting every other DLC coming out between now and Sept 2016 FOR FREE!! The people buying silver, are paying for our FREE DLC’s!
    I’m going to let that simmer for a bit…
    If anyone read last weeks bungie update, DeeJ stated that if you play the game, you will constantly be getting silver. Moreso, between now and December. So, everyone complaining here… Catch a wake up! By playing the game, you will be able to buy all of those buffs if you please. Without spending a single cent…
    Destiny STILL, is the ONLY game that is a truly next gen experience!

    • Hammersteyn

      I don’t quite agree. I paid for the Taken King DLC so I deserve at least one piece of awesome loot for doing the raid. Just one is fine. But if there’s a chance that I get nada because I didn’t spend money on MT I and most people will feel a little hard done by.

      • Waynster ZA

        You should at least get 3 doing the raid once. 4 main bosses including the final, and at each stage you get a drop. 300+ attack. If you carry 20 moldering shards, your drop rate is even higher. You can buy moldering shards from Eris with hadium flakes and glimmer. Or just collect them in the raid. By default, you have the same chance, by just playing the game.

        • Hammersteyn

          Let’s hope so, man that raid is confusing. Watch a few videos but I guess the best is to play it oneself

        • Hammersteyn

          Last night was funny on the dreadnaught when we pinned the hive in that one room XD

          • Waynster ZA

            It was EPIC! Unintentional Glimmer farm with all the codex drops.

  • WitWolfy
  • Kenn Gibson

    I am happy for the boost to level 25, it might actually make me make a hunter, the rest look like BS. I enjoy destiny, this wont make me stop playing though.

  • Kenn Gibson

    by the way slightly off topic is there a local destiny community i can join on PS4 for strikes, etc or someone willing to help me in joining the lazygamer ps4 community as searching doesnt work?

    • There is. Add OddSockZA on PS4, and I’ll bring you in to the LG community. From there, you can find the many locals who *live* Destiny.

    • Waynster ZA

      Were are a PS4 group playing every evening: Waynster_ZA

  • Nikola

    Ok thanks for the update Darryn as I was ready to rage quit this mofo….Even though I love this game soo much!

  • Hammersteyn

    Okay, so what does Heuristic Light, Indomitable Light and Valorous Light do in the game and what are they being used for??? Methinks bungie got caught out and are dousing the fires

  • Generic ZA

    lie rhymes with deny, coincidence?

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