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Xbox One and PS4 are close, but Kinect still sucks

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The usually rather frank tech-head and designer from id games, John Carmack has said that the Xbox One and the PlayStation 4 are very close in performance; “essentially the same.”  He has less kind words for Kinect, even in its updated form.

He’s slightly less than frank discussing the Xbox One and PS4 though; speaking at Quakecon, Carmack only said that while he says he hasn’t done enough thorough  benchmarking to declare an outright winner betwixt PS4 and Xbox One, he does believe that they “very close” and that “they’re both very good.”

I’m not sure if he’s just being diplomatic, though I’m inclined to believe that both of the next gen consoles really are very similarly capable. I’m also more inclined to believe him based on what he’s said about Kinect.

It’s “sort of like a zero-button mouse with a lot of latency…,” he said “Kinect still has some fundamental limitations with the latency and framerate… It’s fundamentally a poor interaction.”

That’s pretty much what most gamers have been saying since the thing was introduced – and it’s nice to have a developer say as much.

Last Updated: August 2, 2013


  1. Unavengedavo

    August 2, 2013 at 16:08

    The Kinect sucks? What will they think of next?!?!


  2. Pieter Kruger

    August 2, 2013 at 16:13

    Did he jog there?


  3. FoxOneZA - X-Therminator

    August 2, 2013 at 16:40

    In next years Quakecon Carmack will be whining about inferior consoles are. He has done it before.


  4. William

    August 2, 2013 at 16:41

    “…betwixt…” Son of God, hast thou returned from thy Dark Ages?


  5. Deano

    August 2, 2013 at 16:45

    Man this guy really fits the sterotype game code writer.


    • RRF

      August 2, 2013 at 17:04

      He is the originator of the stereotype 😛


  6. HvR

    August 2, 2013 at 16:57

    Why did they talk about Elder’s scrolls as if it is masturbation?

    “if liked it and would like more of it but with other people”


  7. Brenz

    August 2, 2013 at 18:21

    Of course it sucks, thats because its not meant for games, just for spying.


    • CaptainCrusader

      August 13, 2013 at 05:56

      There’s a lot of potheads out there that play video games. Potheads are notoriously paranoid about gettin spyed on (and not for any particularly factual reasoning). M$ is going to tank on this jank. Making the console a useless brick without that POS kinect thing attached? Stupid.


      • TruthHurts

        May 3, 2014 at 03:00

        Actually I do believe it was stated that certain branches of the government can hack your kinect and see what your doing. I meen they’d have to have a pretty specific reason to do so but they can. I definately am against taht kinda shit.


  8. Roger

    August 3, 2013 at 05:30

    Fu** all of you, you cant expect something new to be perfect on the 1st round. im glad they doin kinect, its something new, something you b**ches might like once they get it right.


    • Sageville

      August 3, 2013 at 20:13

      Er, thanks for the insults?


    • That Twit In Black

      August 5, 2013 at 13:40



    • Jeramy An Charlene Anne

      August 20, 2013 at 14:06

      lol, yeah in 50 years they might get it right…. after all it’s like they are renewing the experience we had back in Nintendo’s days with the power glove, and we all know how cool that thing was/is still to this very day! Wow, “I love the Power Glove…. It’s sooo bad!” hahahaha! KINECT, what a joke!


    • Gr8_Balls_o_Fire

      January 27, 2014 at 12:40

      12-year-old has spoken


    • truthhurts

      May 3, 2014 at 03:05

      Kinects been around for quite some time Roger and it still fails. See this is why fanboys get zero respect from the gaming community. You state simple facts and try to get improvements for the system, and a fanboy will go into a rage throwing random accusations/insults. Fanboys really are nothing more then a child throwing a tantrum in the store. The only real way to get through to them is to spank the shit outta them and ground them from the internet.


  9. Stanley Watson

    August 3, 2013 at 16:07

    If the two consoles do end up being very similar graphics and performance wise, what is there that differentiates the PS4 from the Xbox One? A better market place and related deals?


    • Panga

      August 5, 2013 at 08:30

      Price!!! the only way I will be getting xbox one if they unbundle the kinect… Making it the same price as the ps4…


  10. Rags

    August 5, 2013 at 12:42

    I can listen to this man speak for hours. This was another great talk.


    • TiMsTeR1033

      August 5, 2013 at 12:53

      that kinda sounds a little gay…. just so you know. John Carmack is a legend yes but Doom 3 and Rage were not exactly great games. Looking forward to doom 4 though. But it may aswell fail. he is a better maker of tech than of games.


      • Rags

        August 5, 2013 at 13:31

        Dunno, I thought they both where great games. Techwise and otherwise. Carmack was not responsible for the game design, that was the job of Tim Willits. 🙂
        I think they should give the Doom and Quake ip’s a rest though, but I’ll still buy anything they make. 😛


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